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New spells

PostPosted: Wednesday, 12th January 2011, 08:39
by Strongpoint
It's probably better for the wiki, but not all ideas are ready for the wiki and I like the forum more

Idea #1:

Olgreb's detoxification (Naming isn't my thing) poison\translocation 3 level

Effect: transfers poison from one body to another, smite targeting. Also, it allows translocating poison from wielded potions or poisoned chunks
Usage: Offensive healing, concentrating poison on one strong target after venom bolt\poison cloud\toxic radiance, killing summoners
Game effect: I think offensive nonconjuration spell is always good, makes potions of poison useful without evaporate, more uses for chunks, new strategies for venom mages , +1 spell to the smallest schools.

Re: New spells

PostPosted: Wednesday, 12th January 2011, 12:40
by szanth
Not a horrible idea. If I get it properly, it would combine all on-screen poison to one single individual in a concentrated poison?

Re: New spells

PostPosted: Wednesday, 12th January 2011, 17:25
by danr
Can you explain what you mean by "offensive healing"?

Re: New spells

PostPosted: Wednesday, 12th January 2011, 17:37
by szanth
I.e. if you are poisoned, you are able to transfer it to another person while removing it from yourself.

Re: New spells

PostPosted: Wednesday, 12th January 2011, 18:50
by danr
Okay. I was imagining something where you would get the HP that the monster was losing to poison. A ranged, continuous vampiric draining!

The ultimate kiting spell that would be!

Re: New spells

PostPosted: Wednesday, 12th January 2011, 19:15
by Strongpoint
szanth wrote:Not a horrible idea. If I get it properly, it would combine all on-screen poison to one single individual in a concentrated poison?


Nope, I think it would be way to powerful, single source is enough

Re: New spells

PostPosted: Wednesday, 12th January 2011, 20:45
by acvar
So it is a sting that requires you to be poisoned before you can cast it? It sounds neat, but it is doomed to be yet another cool spell that nobody actually uses just like ignite poison.

Re: New spells

PostPosted: Wednesday, 12th January 2011, 21:00
by starless
Yep it's basically Sting + Cure Poison in one spell.

Re: New spells

PostPosted: Wednesday, 12th January 2011, 21:07
by Strongpoint
acvar wrote:So it is a sting that requires you to be poisoned before you can cast it? It sounds neat, but it is doomed to be yet another cool spell that nobody actually uses just like ignite poison.


Nope... you can cast it if:

1) You are poisoned
2) You wield potion(s) of poison
3) you wield poisonious chunk(s)
4) You have two monsters in LOS, one is poisoned, another is the one that you want to poison


And ignite poison is a good spell, It would be used if schools were better

Re: New spells

PostPosted: Thursday, 13th January 2011, 18:43
by szanth
acvar wrote:So it is a sting that requires you to be poisoned before you can cast it? It sounds neat, but it is doomed to be yet another cool spell that nobody actually uses just like ignite poison.


I use ignite poison.

Re: New spells

PostPosted: Thursday, 13th January 2011, 19:46
by Stormfox
acvar wrote:So it is a sting that requires you to be poisoned before you can cast it? It sounds neat, but it is doomed to be yet another cool spell that nobody actually uses just like ignite poison.


To jump on the bandwagon, take Ignite Poison into Snake and see how fast you clear it. Then tell me it's something that nobody uses. (Just drop your poisoned ammo first, although everyone needs to make that mistake once...)

Re: New spells

PostPosted: Thursday, 13th January 2011, 19:51
by szanth
Or Hive. Snake and Hive are almost silly when you have Ignite Poison.

Or when you also have Toxic Radiance. =D Doesn't take out the higher-level monsters, but it's able to clear the entire room of most types of orcs and gnolls and anything similarly-powered.

Re: New spells

PostPosted: Friday, 14th January 2011, 09:33
by vladimirdx
So, nagas and kobolds would have unlimited use of this spell?

Re: New spells

PostPosted: Friday, 14th January 2011, 12:17
by szanth
Just because the kobold leaves behind a poisonous corpse doesn't mean it's poisonous when it's alive. And naga's already got a poison attack, so in gameplay mechanics it wouldn't make sense. Unless you replace the current naga ability with this.

Re: New spells

PostPosted: Friday, 14th January 2011, 18:24
by MrMisterMonkey
kobolds are poisonous while alive; try casting Ignite Poison

Re: New spells

PostPosted: Friday, 14th January 2011, 19:08
by szanth
Yeah I suppose that's a good point. But a kobold can still be poisoned, can't it? So being poisoned and having a poisonous body could be, for gameplay purposes, two different things.