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Trog Spell Acquisition
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Saturday, 14th November 2020, 14:53by Nekoatl
Trog worshipers are hardcoded to not pick up spellbooks to learn spells, but apparently doing so doesn't actually anger Trog, in which case Trog worshipers should always manually pick up spellbooks so that if they later abandon Trog, they won't have to backtrack to pick up all the spellbooks they left lying around. This is pointlessly tedious, so the hardcoding should be removed to allow Trog worshipers to automatically learn spells like other characters.
Re: Trog Spell Acquisition
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Saturday, 14th November 2020, 16:24by Nekoatl
There seems to be a similar issue with Trog worshipers setting training targets for Spellcasting, which they may eventually wish to do if they're using guardian spirit. Edit: Nevermind, there apparently is a penalty for training Spellcasting, although it's easy to miss the warning message for this, as it doesn't occur when training is turned on, only when a skill level is gained.
Re: Trog Spell Acquisition
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Saturday, 14th November 2020, 19:46by Siegurt
Yeah, I've also suggested that spellbooks be auto-pickup for trog now that there's no point in *not* picking them up any more, I think it's just a narrow case that isn't given mutch attention.
Re: Trog Spell Acquisition
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Sunday, 15th November 2020, 13:34by Majang
Nekoatl wrote:There seems to be a similar issue with Trog worshipers setting training targets for Spellcasting, which they may eventually wish to do if they're using guardian spirit.
You can grow your guardian spirit (MP) by training evocations.
Re: Trog Spell Acquisition
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Sunday, 15th November 2020, 14:57by Aean
Or, I suppose, if people want to lean more into Trog's theme of hating all magic, instead of learning the spells when you pick up a spellbook, Trog grants either a big chunk of piety (if you're at low piety) or a god gift.
Makes him less friendly for switching to magic later, but also means that he hates magic more, and that finding spellbooks is once again good for Troglodytes.
Re: Trog Spell Acquisition
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Sunday, 15th November 2020, 19:03by Siegurt
Majang wrote:Nekoatl wrote:There seems to be a similar issue with Trog worshipers setting training targets for Spellcasting, which they may eventually wish to do if they're using guardian spirit.
You can grow your guardian spirit (MP) by training evocations.
Evocations doesn't increase your max MP in trunk:
https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e ... cc79fe60ee
Re: Trog Spell Acquisition
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Sunday, 15th November 2020, 20:56by Majang
Re: Trog Spell Acquisition
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Thursday, 19th November 2020, 20:53by ZipZipskins
Aean wrote:Or, I suppose, if people want to lean more into Trog's theme of hating all magic, instead of learning the spells when you pick up a spellbook, Trog grants either a big chunk of piety (if you're at low piety) or a god gift.
Makes him less friendly for switching to magic later, but also means that he hates magic more, and that finding spellbooks is once again good for Troglodytes.
probably shouldn't do this since A: we don't need to buff trog by giving the god more piety and B: piety gains have been streamlined a ton over recent versions such that there are far fewer methods of gaining piety between different gods, and this simplicity is good