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remove basic Orc packs from Vaults

PostPosted: Thursday, 9th August 2018, 01:20
by bhauth
Why are there plain orcs in Vaults? At that point they're trivial enemies that give basically no experience.

Re: remove basic Orc packs from Vaults

PostPosted: Thursday, 16th August 2018, 01:16
by biasface
Checking the Vaults spawn list, you can only get orc knights (depth 1) and orc warlords (depth 4), both of which will spawn with bands that are worth a non-trivial amount of exp in vaults.

Re: remove basic Orc packs from Vaults

PostPosted: Thursday, 16th August 2018, 01:21
by duvessa
...bands of plain orcs.

Re: remove basic Orc packs from Vaults

PostPosted: Thursday, 16th August 2018, 01:29
by biasface
  Code:
    { BAND_ORC_KNIGHT,          {{{MONS_ORC, 12},
                                  {MONS_ORC_WARRIOR, 9},
                                  {MONS_WARG, 2},
                                  {MONS_ORC_WIZARD, 2},
                                  {MONS_ORC_PRIEST, 2},
                                  {MONS_OGRE, 1},
                                  {MONS_TROLL, 1},
                                  {MONS_ORC_SORCERER, 1}}}},

I concede that it is possible to get a band of entirely plain orcs, but even with the minimum orc knight band size of 3, it's only a 7.9% chance.

Re: remove basic Orc packs from Vaults

PostPosted: Thursday, 16th August 2018, 01:49
by chequers
Even if you get one plain orc, it's still one early-D monster showing up when you are XL15+.

I think a lot of those band monsters are totally unthreatening. It might be better for bands to include just one or two orc sorcerers/high priests and nothing else.

Or maybe Orcs can be removed entirely from Vaults -- they are already common D and Orc, I'd say they are an overused monster type right now.