Give Y/N for Walking into Steam


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Post Saturday, 10th March 2018, 13:28

Give Y/N for Walking into Steam

I just walked into a cloud of scalding steam with a mummy, and lost almost all of my health. Give a Y/N prompt for walking into it, at least with rF-.
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Post Saturday, 10th March 2018, 21:27

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Assuming you meant 'scalding steam'.

Looks like steam is special cased in player.cc check_moveto_cloud:

  Code:
        // Don't prompt for steam unless we're at uncomfortably low hp.
        if (ctype == CLOUD_STEAM)
        {
            int threshold = 20;
            if (player_res_steam() < 0)
                threshold = threshold * 3 / 2;
            threshold = threshold * you.time_taken / BASELINE_DELAY;
            // Do prompt if we'd lose icemail, though.
            if (you.hp > threshold && !you.has_mutation(MUT_ICEMAIL))
                return true;
        }


If I'm reading this correctly, a mummy won't get prompted for stepping in steam if they have over 30 HP.
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Post Sunday, 11th March 2018, 11:08

Re: Give Y/N for Walking into Steam

Yea right, I edited it with "steam".

The mechanic probably should be modified based on how much % health you can lose by walking into a steam cloud. I was in Sewers, so XP 5, and it was a hell of a hit, 50% or more health lost without a warning, with enemies in sight.
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Post Sunday, 11th March 2018, 21:57

Re: Give Y/N for Walking into Steam

Probably doubling or tripling the threshold would give the desired effect and be a simple change.

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Post Sunday, 11th March 2018, 22:20

Re: Give Y/N for Walking into Steam

I've had this happen as well, in the Sewers, with characters that were not mummies. Steam hurts BAD at low XL.

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Post Monday, 12th March 2018, 00:25

Re: Give Y/N for Walking into Steam

How many different kinds of clouds do we really need?
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Post Monday, 12th March 2018, 15:08

Re: Give Y/N for Walking into Steam

Wait, does steam check rF-? That makes no sense whatsoever. I can see fire damaging mummies more, but steam should not.
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Post Monday, 12th March 2018, 15:27

Re: Give Y/N for Walking into Steam

I am not sure of whether rF- has any impact on steam (rF+ does, since it makes you immune to steam). But, if it doesn't, then the problem is even more diffuse.
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Post Monday, 12th March 2018, 18:51

Re: Give Y/N for Walking into Steam

Rast wrote:How many different kinds of clouds do we really need?


If we're being honest, Steam clouds are one of the more reasonable ones to have, really.
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Post Monday, 12th March 2018, 22:15

Re: Give Y/N for Walking into Steam

njvack wrote:Wait, does steam check rF-? That makes no sense whatsoever. I can see fire damaging mummies more, but steam should not.

Steam is basically a fire cloud variant. It also does other fiery things, like melting ozo/icy envelope.
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Post Tuesday, 13th March 2018, 14:27

Re: Give Y/N for Walking into Steam

Okay, I wizmoded this. Mu gets a "The steam scalds you terribly!" message when hit by a ball of steam, but not when standing in a cloud. But that's the case for fire, too, so yeah it looks like rF- gives rSteam-.

Steam is hot, but it is not a fire variant. It doesn't cause things to combust. Mu's rF- gimmick is that they're flammable because they're dry; mummies should not have rSteam-.
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