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Arguably most vaults are 'bad' in the sense that they encourage accessing spoilers more than any other feature in the game. However, some are particularly egregious and encourage a) metagaming to an obscene degree or b) they impede the playability of the game. ITT, post the vaults that could be removed for the greatest positive impact to the game.

(Feel free to move this to CYC if it is not GDD appropriate. No offense is intended to the creators of these vaults: a lot of bad vaults are good ideas that don't work particularly well within dcss)

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X111779993333ing to look for destroyable plants is an unfun minigame; this vault is bad because it rewards the player so heavily with loot for inspecting every plant adjacent to unseen space. If an unspoiled player finds this vault, what will they do next? Use every spare lightning charge to destroy all trees that could be hiding items? Rigorously inspect every other level with plants for 'secrets?'

I would also like to nominate the depths encompass vault composed entirely of winding glass passages and dangerous monsters for removal. At least this vault isn't spoilery (in fact I feel it may have been designed in response to complaints of spoilery vaults), but in this case 'prevents resting/autoexplore' is more problematic than 'encourages metagaming'

edit: All vaults containing submerged swamp worms are pretty bad, especially the swamp entry ones and the ones with a room otherwise full of dart slugs/regular worms

I nominate the sewer with multiple(!) areas "hidden" behind plants. Or at least make them runed doors and give them autoexplore autotravel like the elf:2 vault.

I nominate the sewer that requires you to have flight (or swimming or teleportation) in order to get the loot.

I actually posted this one in CYC. I think it's broken.

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Believe it or not, that's intentional, but so many people have bug reported it that I think it should be changed anyway (specifically by removing the door).

Shtopit wrote:I actually posted this one in CYC. I think it's broken.

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Holy shit how big is your monitor dude

remove "minmay_the_grid_ultimate". Its just a joke vault in depths that nobody will manually explore and even auto exploring takes a million years to clear.

ezero wrote:remove "minmay_the_grid_ultimate". Its just a joke vault in depths that nobody will manually explore and even auto exploring takes a million years to clear.

Absolutely not! I love this vault since the first time I died in it. Yes, it takes a lot of time, but each minute has my adrenaline up! And if you don't explore it manually, you will die.

Majang wrote:Absolutely not! I love this vault since the first time I died in it. Yes, it takes a lot of time, but each minute has my adrenaline up! And if you don't explore it manually, you will die.

This sounds bad to me...

duvessa wrote:
Majang wrote:Absolutely not! I love this vault since the first time I died in it. Yes, it takes a lot of time, but each minute has my adrenaline up! And if you don't explore it manually, you will die.
This sounds bad to me...

We may have different ideas as to what constitutes fun...

Autoexploring deaths are bad

This commit made evilmike_wizard_prison into a ludicrous spoiler trap. The original version did have a pretty bad spoiler trap since there is no prior indication that the silent spectre will get teleported away, but the key that kept it from being a deathtrap was that once the spectre teleported away, the monsters were still behind glass and out of LOS. You're punished for being unspoiled because the monsters become harder to kill, but you're not placed in any actual danger.
The remake, however, in addition to having the silent spectre that teleports with no prior indication, makes the glass walls disappear at the same time with no prior indication. Furthermore, the remade vault is laid out so that this happens in LOS of several of the monsters, so the only apparent escape route is to go further in the vault, where there are two hidden ancient liches. I cannot fathom what purpose this is supposed to have beyond killing as many unspoiled players as possible. It is utterly and completely harmless to anyone who is already familiar with the vault, and stupidly lethal to anyone who isn't.

duvessa wrote:so the only apparent escape route is to go further in the vault, where there are two hidden ancient liches.

Or teleport away and come back with the silent spectre(not as spoilery as much as you could just use your brain but yeah, most vaults could be removed for being this type of spoilery). I think the curse skulls inside that vault get more kills than the ambush. Also, if you are deliberately walking into a silence zone you deserve whatever is coming to you.

I wanna know why did you make minmay_temple_entry_oklob and why is it still in the game, or if there are other temple entrances that threaten the player's life.

Why are we spawning silent spectres outside of the Abyss again?

sundaye wrote:I wanna know why did you make minmay_temple_entry_oklob and why is it still in the game, or if there are other temple entrances that threaten the player's life.

cuz I was stupid enough to like oklobs at the time, same story as every other oklob/statue vault in existence. For the record, it originally had an oklob plant, not an oklob sapling. I don't think there are other temple entrances that place non-firewood monsters.

This vault with electric eels behind plants:

Code:: NAME: cheibrodos_two_vegetables DEPTH: D:5-10 TAGS: no_item_gen no_monster_gen no_pool_fixup ORIENT: float KMONS: 1 = electric eel SUBST: ; = .W NSUBST: - = 3:1 / w, _ = 3:1 / w, A = 3:% / 1:* / 2:. / W NSUBST: B = 2:% / 1:* / 3:. / W, ` = 7:C / 4:. / W KFEAT: C = W KFEAT: 1 = w KMONS: C = plant MAP xxxxxxxxxx xx0..;WWWWxx xx;xxxxxxxx;xx xWxx..`BB_xx0x xWx...``B__x.x x;x....`BB_m.x x.x+..``B__x;x x..x..`BB_xxWxx xx;xxxxxxxxxxWxx xWWxx..`AA-xxWx xxWx...``A--x;x x;x....`AA-m.x x.x+..``A--x.x x..x..`AA-xx+x xx9xxxxxxxx.@. xxx ENDMAP

No danger whatsoever, but also impossible to do with melee.

I hate the freezing ice vault with the two ice statues on either sides. For some characters it is easy if they have fireball, fulminant prism or cloud immunity, but for a lot of other characters it is just a huge tedium fest which isn't especially dangerous - it just forces you to take a million turns to whittle those ice statues down.

That is a vault.

nagdon_arrival_double_spiral

Dart slug showed up immediately and pinged me to death.

!lg Rast D:1 -tv:<T0:x0.5

http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/rast/ ... 042719.txt

Don't think I had any possible way to kill it or escape, besides starting a background with a ranged attack.

I don't know if this qualifies for "bad", but in the course of going through all the minivaults, I found that there are still at least three vaults with hidden areas that have to be dug into, and have no transparent walls to indicate the existence of said hidden areas:
nrook_guardian_serpent_double
minislime_mu (25% of the time)
wad_dig_loot

duvessa wrote:I don't know if this qualifies for "bad", but in the course of going through all the minivaults, I found that there are still at least three vaults with hidden areas that have to be dug into, and have no transparent walls to indicate the existence of said hidden areas:
nrook_guardian_serpent_double
minislime_mu (25% of the time)
wad_dig_loot

I believe all three deserve to live as is. If you don't mindlessly o-tab, you can notice that the first one is quite unique building that clearly has extra space at the back and the second resembles Jiyva vault (there are even slime creatures around!) which hints (to those who were able to recognise it) there is loot inside. The third one also hints there is something going on with the statue and the third metallic square being different from the other two. But to be honest I myself caught this hint only when being backed up by Ash's sense of monsters (or was it antennae?).

Code:: NAME: shop_scrolls TAGS: allow_dup extra shop transparent WEIGHT: 1 KFEAT: O = scroll shop ITEM: nothing w:30 / scroll of noise w:2 /\ scroll of random uselessness w:8 MAP ddd dOd ddd ENDMAP

this is like the #1 vault that should have ident:type, and it doesn't have it

In the vein of "autoexplore deaths are bad", I'd like to bring up grunt_ogre_cave and hangedman_pestilent_swarm. Both vaults seem designed to make the player autoexplore adjacent to a dangerous enemy - an ogre, two-headed ogre, or hornet - and appear in Dungeon, where some characters won't have great options to deal with being placed in this situation. ogre_cave has a distinctive leadup, which makes it more spoilery and a "did you remember to stop and shout" test, but I've never really noticed an obvious tell for the latter. I'm not sure they should be removed (especially because I think of ogre cave as pretty iconic) but perhaps they could be modified to not do this?

pestilent_swarm is the biggest autoexplore trap vault in the game now, I think. It does have a tell: the fork at the beginning is not terrain that can generate naturally. The worst part is that you could fix it just by slightly moving the monsters.

On another note, why do we even have a guaranteed food vault? Just make them regular random vaults.

duvessa wrote:why do we even have a guaranteed food vault?

It's relevant with Gozag.

Oh no, you might have to buy one more food shop with the strongest god in the game

That vault with the merfolk avatar and miasma clouds is obnoxious (but behind a blue door). I did it recently completely painlessly with a scroll of blinking from the door to a spot adjacent to the merfolk, avoiding all of the miasma.

Yermak wrote:
duvessa wrote:I don't know if this qualifies for "bad", but in the course of going through all the minivaults, I found that there are still at least three vaults with hidden areas that have to be dug into, and have no transparent walls to indicate the existence of said hidden areas:
nrook_guardian_serpent_double
minislime_mu (25% of the time)
wad_dig_loot

I believe all three deserve to live as is. If you don't mindlessly o-tab, you can notice that the first one is quite unique building that clearly has extra space at the back and the second resembles Jiyva vault (there are even slime creatures around!) which hints (to those who were able to recognise it) there is loot inside. The third one also hints there is something going on with the statue and the third metallic square being different from the other two. But to be honest I myself caught this hint only when being backed up by Ash's sense of monsters (or was it antennae?).

I've played my fair share of games but never once dug into vaults to find loot. I do mindlessly o-tab though. This kind of vault design seems decidedly against crawl philosophy though.

Airwolf wrote:That vault with the merfolk avatar and miasma clouds is obnoxious (but behind a blue door). I did it recently completely painlessly with a scroll of blinking from the door to a spot adjacent to the merfolk, avoiding all of the miasma.

This is not a defense of bad vaults, but I'd prefer to waste a couple curing than a scroll of blink.

This abomination that places unknown traps on specific squares:

Code:: ############################################################################## # Lich vault NAME: weyrava_lich_vault DEPTH: Crypt TAGS: no_monster_gen no_item_gen ITEM: gold KFEAT: Z = w:5 alarm trap / w:8 zot trap / w:50 floor KMONS: Y = Boris / ancient lich, ancient lich MONS: w:3 zombie / lich / w:3 skeleton / w:3 bone dragon MONS: skeleton / zombie KFEAT: v = . KITEM: v = $ / % SUBST: $ = $.*| MAP ccccc ccccv.vcccc c$.+.Y..+$c c.ccv.vcc.c c+ccc+ccc+c c..$c.c$..c @n.1.c.c.1.c c$.$c.c$.$c ccc+c.ccccc cccZcZc$c c.+.cZczc cZcccZc+c c.+2+Z+2c cccccZccc c.c c@c ENDMAP

minmay_hollow_rounded_squares doesn't have no_tele_into

https://underhound.eu/crawl/morgue/Ge0f ... 133057.txt

A vault with a runed door and absolutely no indication of what's behind it:

Code:: NAME: cheibrodos_body_horror TAGS: no_item_gen no_monster_gen DEPTH: D:12- ORIENT: north MONS: small abomination, demonic crawler, ugly thing, chaos spawn, neqoxec MONS: large abomination / very ugly thing KMONS: _ = tentacled monstrosity KITEM: _ = | NSUBST: - = 1:_ / 2=%%* / 3=234 / 2=234... / 1=5. / 2:6 / 1=6. / *:1 MAP xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxx.xxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx xx-xxx.xxxx.xxx-xxx.xxx xxx..x.xxx..xxxx...x-xx xxxxx..xxx.xxx-xx.xxxxx xxxxx.x....x..xxx.xxxxx xxxx-xxxxx..xxxxx.xxxxx xxxxxx-.x....xxx....xxx x-.xxxxx.........xxx.xx xxx..xxxx.....xxxxxx.xx xxxx..........xxxxx.xxx xxxx.xxx.......xxxx-xxx xxxx.x-xx.x=x...xxxxxxx xxxxx.xx..x.xx..xxxx-xx x-xxxxxx.xx..xx..xxx.xx x.xxxxxx.x....xx....xxx xx.x...x.x.....x.xx.xxx xxx.xxx.xx.....x.xxx.xx xxxx-xx..xx....xx-xxx-x xxxxxxxxx-x.....xxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxx.@@@..xxxxxx ENDMAP

It'd be fine if it just had some transparent walls, or no door.

Another runed door vault with no glass:

Code:: NAME: mludivico_vault ORIENT: southwest DEPTH: D:12-, !D:$ MONS: hell hound, necromancer, wizard, orange demon, rust devil MONS: hell knight, great orb of eyes MAP xx.@.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxx...xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxx..........................xx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx..xx x.............................xx xx...xx+xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxx.....11....xxxxxxxx..xxxxxxxx xxxx..x.1..6..xxx........xx..xxx xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx...vvvvv...x...xx x6..1...x.........+1..v.......xx x..1....x.........vvvvv........x x..5...xx......................x xxxxxx.++...........vvvvvvv....x xxxxxx.xx...xx=xx...vv$%$vvvvv.x xxxxxx.x...xxv1vxx...vvv*2...v.x xxxxxx.x..vvvv7.vvvv...vv.vv+v.x x..xxx...vvvb....bvvv...vvv....x x%%.xx..vvvvb....bvvvv.......xxx xx.....vvbbb......bbbvv.....xxxx xxx....vvb....66....bvvxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxvvvb..llllll..bvvvxxxxxxxx xvvvvvvvvb..ll45ll..bvvvvvvvvxxx xccc***+.+..l3.2.l..cccccccccxxx xccc+cccbb....ll....c..$$$$+$*cx xcc|||cbb...3llll2...cc%*%*c$|cx xcccccccbbbbbbbbbbbccccccccccccx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ENDMAP

I'm pretty sure this didn't originally have a runed door, did someone add it and if so, why?

edit: and another:

Code:: NAME: nicolae_snake_horde_hoard DEPTH: Snake KITEM: s = $ / nothing w:25 / * w:1 KMONS: s = adder w:5 / ball python w:5 / black mamba / anaconda / \ water moccasin / sea snake w:1 / nothing w:20 MAP xxxxxxx xxsssssxxxxxx xssssssss=..@ xssssssss=.0@ xssssssss=..@ xxsssssxxxxxx xxxxxxx ENDMAP

Seems like I'm running into a lot of these all of a sudden...

Code:: NAME: lemuel_flamethrower_3 DEPTH: D:12-, Depths, Elf, Geh, Abyss TAGS: allow_dup ruin_abyss MARKER: * = lua:fog_machine { cloud_type="flame", \ pow_min = 20, pow_max = 40, delay = 150, \ size = 2, walk_dist = 0, spread_rate= 75 } COLOUR: * = red SUBST: * = . : if you.in_branch("Geh") then TAGS: transparent extra : end MAP ..... cc.cc cc.cc cc.cc c*c ccc c ENDMAP NAME: lemuel_flamethrower_2 DEPTH: D:5-, Depths, Elf, Geh, Abyss TAGS: ruin_abyss MARKER: * = lua:fog_machine { cloud_type="flame", \ pow_min = 20, pow_max = 40, delay_min = 100, delay_max=200, \ size = 2, walk_dist = 0, spread_rate= 75 } COLOUR: n = red SUBST: * = . : if you.in_branch("Geh") then TAGS: transparent extra : end MAP ........... .xxxx.xxxx. .xxxx.xxxx. .xxxx*xxxx. .xxxnnnxxx. ...*nGn*... .xxxnnnxxx. .xxxx*xxxx. .xxxx.xxxx. .xxxx.xxxx. ........... ENDMAP NAME: lemuel_flamethrower_1 DEPTH: D:5-, Depths, Elf, Geh TAGS: layout_rooms layout_city MARKER: * = lua:fog_machine { cloud_type="flame", \ pow_min = 20, pow_max = 40, delay = 150, \ size = 2, walk_dist = 0, spread_rate= 75 } COLOUR: * = red SUBST: * = . : if you.in_branch("Geh") then TAGS: transparent extra : end MAP xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxGxxxxxx ............. @...........@ ............. xxxxxx.xxxxxx xxxxxx.xxxxxx xxxxxx.xxxxxx xxxxxx*xxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx ENDMAP # Little wisps of steam around the lava, and then occasionally a big # eruption. No warning needed here - the steam does very little damage. NAME: lemuel_old_faithful DEPTH: D, Depths, Lair, Geh TAGS: uniq_geyser no_monster_gen transparent MONS: nothing,nothing MARKER: 1 = lua:fog_machine { cloud_type="steam", \ pow_min = 2, pow_max = 5, delay = 25, \ size = 2, walk_dist = 3, spread_rate= 10 } MARKER: 2 = lua:fog_machine { cloud_type="steam", \ pow_min = 10, pow_max = 20, delay = 750, \ size = 10, walk_dist = 1, spread_rate= 75 } SUBST: 1 = l, 2 = l SUBST: l = l w:20 SUBST: ? : w. , ! : w. , & : w. : if you.in_branch("Geh") then TAGS: transparent extra : end MAP .......?....... ......&?....... .......??...... ..&&&&???...... &&&&?wwwww..... &&?wwwwwwwww&&. .wwwwwlwwwwwww& ..&wwl1lwwwww&& ...wwwl2lwww&&. ....wwwlww&&... ..!!wwwww...... ..!!!www....... .!!!!w!.....!.. ..!!!w.....!!!. ...!!.......!!. ENDMAP NAME: lemuel_another_geyser DEPTH: D, Depths, Lair TAGS: uniq_geyser no_monster_gen layout_rooms transparent MONS: nothing,nothing MARKER: 1 = lua:fog_machine { cloud_type="steam", \ pow_min = 2, pow_max = 5, delay = 25, \ size = 3, walk_dist = 3, spread_rate= 20 } MARKER: 2 = lua:fog_machine { cloud_type="steam", \ pow_min = 15, pow_max = 30, delay = 750, \ size = 12, walk_dist = 1, spread_rate= 99 } SUBST: 1 = l, 2 = l SUBST: l = lw SUBST: ? : wlx MAP ....... ....www.... ...wwwww... xxxxxwxxxxx xxxxxwwxxxx xxxxxxxwxxx xxxxxxxwxxx xx??xxwxxxx xx??lw1wxxx xxxxxlwwwxx xxxxxl2xxxx xxxxxxxxxxx ENDMAP NAME: lemuel_nasty_fountain DEPTH: D:11-, Depths, Crypt, Tar TAGS: allow_dup MARKER: Y = lua:fog_machine { cloud_type = "foul pestilence", \ pow_min = 8, pow_max = 12, delay_min = 20, delay_max = 30, \ size = 2, walk_dist = 1, spread_rate= 33 } : if you.in_branch("Tar") then TAGS: extra : end MAP Y ENDMAP NAME: lemuel_flame_loot_1 TAGS: no_tele_into DEPTH: D, Depths, Elf, Zot ITEM: nothing SUBST: * = *. SUBST: * : *$ NSUBST: @ = 2:@ / *:@. MARKER: d = lua:fog_machine { cloud_type = "flame", \ pow_min = 10, pow_max = 10, delay = 10, \ size = 2, walk_dist = 0, spread_rate= 0 } SUBST: ' = . : if you.in_branch("Zot") then TAGS: extra : end MAP ccccc.@.ccccc ccccc'''ccccc ccccc'd'ccccc ccccc'''ccccc ccccc...ccccc .'''.***.'''. @'d'.***.'d'@ .'''.***.'''. ccccc...ccccc ccccc'''ccccc ccccc'd'ccccc ccccc'''ccccc ccccc.@.ccccc ENDMAP NAME: lemuel_freeze_loot_1 DEPTH: D:12-, Depths, Crypt SUBST: * : **$ SUBST: * = **| NSUBST: N = 1:+ / *:n MONS: nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing SHUFFLE: 1234 MARKER: 1 = lua:fog_machine { cloud_type = "freezing vapour", \ pow_min = 1, pow_max = 10, delay = 85, \ size = 2, walk_dist = 2, spread_rate= 20 } MARKER: 2 = lua:fog_machine { cloud_type = "freezing vapour", \ pow_min = 1, pow_max = 10, delay = 95, \ size = 2, walk_dist = 2, spread_rate= 20 } MARKER: 3 = lua:fog_machine { cloud_type = "freezing vapour", \ pow_min = 1, pow_max = 10, delay = 105, \ size = 2, walk_dist = 2, spread_rate= 20 } MARKER: 4 = lua:fog_machine { cloud_type = "freezing vapour", \ pow_min = 1, pow_max = 10, delay = 115, \ size = 2, walk_dist = 2, spread_rate= 20 } SUBST: 1=w, 2=w, 3=w, 4=w MAP .wwwww. .wwwwwwwww. wwwww1wwwww .wwcnnNnncww. wwwn..F..nwww ww2N.***.nwww wwwn.***.N4ww wwwn..F..nwww .wwcnnNnncww. wwwww3wwwww .wwwwwwwww. .wwwww. ENDMAP NAME: lemuel_flames_and_gold DEPTH: Depths WEIGHT: 2 TAGS: no_item_gen transparent ITEM: nothing, nothing, nothing NSUBST: . = 4:d / 4:e / 4:f / *:. MARKER: d = lua:fog_machine { cloud_type = "flame", \ pow_min = 2, pow_max = 4, delay = 29, start_clouds = 1, \ size = 2, walk_dist = 2, spread_rate= 0 } MARKER: e = lua:fog_machine { cloud_type = "flame", \ pow_min = 2, pow_max = 4, delay = 31, start_clouds = 1, \ size = 2, walk_dist = 2, spread_rate= 0 } MARKER: f = lua:fog_machine { cloud_type = "flame", \ pow_min = 2, pow_max = 4, delay = 37, start_clouds = 1, \ size = 2, walk_dist = 2, spread_rate= 0 } MAP ............. ............. ............. ............. ......$...... .....$$$..... ....$$G$$.... .....$$$..... ......$...... ............. ............. ............. ............. ENDMAP # No item generation for the sake of autoexplore. NAME: lemuel_flamethrower_hall DEPTH: D:9-, Depths, Elf, Geh, Abyss TAGS: layout_rooms layout_city no_item_gen ruin_abyss MARKER: * = lua:fog_machine { cloud_type="flame", \ pow_min = 25, pow_max = 50, delay = 150, \ size = 3, walk_dist = 0, spread_rate= 40 } COLOUR: * = red SUBST: * = . SUBST: $ : $$*|.c : if you.in_branch("Geh") then TAGS: extra : end MAP ccccccccccccccccccccccc ccxxx*xxxxx*xxxxx*xxxxc Gcxxx.xxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxc ccccc.ccccc.ccccc.ccccc c.................+$$$c +.................+$$$c c.................+$$$c cc.ccccc.ccccc.cccccccc Gc.xxxxx.xxxxx.xxxxxxxc cc*xxxxx*xxxxx*xxxxxxxc ccccccccccccccccccccccc ENDMAP

Some of these cloud vaults just give you some free loot, some of them just mess with autoexplore/autotravel by creating autoexclusions (that will just come back if you try to clear them!), and some of them do both. All of them kill monsters, often before the player can ever see those monsters, which not only removes a potentially interesting monster encounter but also deprives players of XP and leaves the monster's items in a really annoying place.

Back on the bad autoexplore train, shoutouts to cheibrodos_statue_roulette for having me autoexplore next to a gargoyle on D7. Also pretty spoilery if you don't know those doors contain stone arrow-hurling death. Also also, I'm not really sure how this qualifies as a roulette since there's no reward behind the "safe" doors, either you want to fight the gargoyles or don't.

Another vault that got runed doors added to it, but didn't get transparent walls to go with them:

Code:: NAME: minmay_statue_crystal_thing TAGS: transparent DEPTH: D:9- MONS: orange crystal statue w:30 / obsidian statue / ice statue w:5 MAP ..... ...b=b... ...bbb.bbb... .bbb.....bbb. ..b...b+b...b.. .bb.bbb.bbb.bb. ..b..b.....b..b.. .bb.bb..*..bb.bb. .=..+..*1*..+..=. .bb.bb..*..bb.bb. ..b..b.....b..b.. .bb.bbb.bbb.bb. ..b...b+b...b.. .bbb.....bbb. ...bbb.bbb... ...b=b... ..... ENDMAP

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