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Give pan_disco_hall stone walls.

PostPosted: Monday, 12th June 2017, 19:31
by mibe420
pan_disco_hall has a guaranteed demonic rune. But the player can get it at almost no danger with a quick check of the .des file, half a dozen dig zaps, and apportation.

While not every rune vault has stone walls, like hellion island for example, since pan_disco_hall is an enclosed vault it seems like an oversight to not give it stone walls. It would be like if lemuel_hall_of_pain had rock walls, you could just dig the side and nab the rune without fighting the smoke demons and tormentors.

By giving it stone walls you would achieve the goal of the vault actually posing a challenge to players, and it would be consistent with similar demonic rune vaults.

Re: Give pan_disco_hall stone walls.

PostPosted: Monday, 12th June 2017, 19:56
by njvack
The trick with the demonic Pan rune is just keep going and you'll find it somewhere easier, so making an individual demonic rune vault harder doesn't do much.

Re: Give pan_disco_hall stone walls.

PostPosted: Tuesday, 13th June 2017, 03:15
by mibe420
The only demonic vaults I skip are hellion island (unless I have a max range attack) and holy pan. Usually I am excited to tackle any demonic rune vault as soon as I find it because it means I can leave pan sooner.

But, the goal isn't really to make disco pan harder, its to make it consistent with other vaults, and to no longer reward counting tiles in the .des file to skip the whole thing with dig. IE, reduce spoilers.

Re: Give pan_disco_hall stone walls.

PostPosted: Tuesday, 13th June 2017, 12:34
by Yermak
Just a side note: Hall of Pain used to have rock walls in the past.

Re: Give pan_disco_hall stone walls.

PostPosted: Tuesday, 13th June 2017, 15:08
by njvack
Yeah, I'm not against changing the walls to stone. I don't know why that was my initial reaction, I'm just being old and curmudgeonly.

Re: Give pan_disco_hall stone walls.

PostPosted: Tuesday, 20th June 2017, 05:32
by TonberryJam
disco pan crashed my game.

Re: Give pan_disco_hall stone walls.

PostPosted: Tuesday, 20th June 2017, 07:18
by prozacelf
mibe420 wrote:The only demonic vaults I skip are hellion island (unless I have a max range attack) and holy pan. Usually I am excited to tackle any demonic rune vault as soon as I find it because it means I can leave pan sooner.

But, the goal isn't really to make disco pan harder, its to make it consistent with other vaults, and to no longer reward counting tiles in the .des file to skip the whole thing with dig. IE, reduce spoilers.


Did I inspire you to make this decision when I told you to just dig your way to the rune in the tourney? xD

Re: Give pan_disco_hall stone walls.

PostPosted: Tuesday, 20th June 2017, 07:26
by Airwolf
Skipping holy pan makes baby Zin cry.

Re: Give pan_disco_hall stone walls.

PostPosted: Tuesday, 20th June 2017, 23:24
by tasonir
Airwolf wrote:Skipping holy pan makes baby Zin cry.

Well maybe baby Zin shouldn't have removed all those cure mutation potions that used to be in its vault, because now there's no reason to actually fight the deevas there.