Eveningstars and double swords

[dolphin]

Since demon whips are powerful already, how would you make them better without making them OP? Nerf demonic weapons?

[jejorda2]

Demonic weapons anger the good gods, so sometimes the other weapons are better choices. Maybe adding some more drawbacks to the demon weapons would be a good idea.

What if demonic weapons did no damage to demons, or reduced damage? Then they'd still be worth carrying around for much of the game, but you'd prize the double sword more when you got to pandemonium and the hells.

[XuaXua]

eudemon weapons vs demon weapons

[Jeremiah]

Actually, I was recently comparing eveningstars to demon whips using the weapon comparison spreadsheet, as I had to choose between them, and was surprised to find how close they were in damage output, with eveningstars actually being better against some late game, high-AC monsters. And this was before the nerf of demon whips in 0.9.

This didn't take into account things like rings of slaying or elec/pain brands, which will have a stronger effect on faster weapons, and also assumed that I had enough skill to get the minimum delay with the eveningstar, which is higher than you would need to get the minimum with the demon whip.

However, if it needs to be fixed, the way to do it would probably be to make stats matter more, so heavy weapons like eveningstars are better for high-str characters, while whips are better with high dex.