Impossible Situation with Shining One and Confusion


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Post Wednesday, 9th November 2016, 18:10

Impossible Situation with Shining One and Confusion

So I was in the Labirynth and I turned the corner and I see the Minatour. I drink my potions and request Shield from the Shining One and while slaying the Minatour happily and easily he casts a Mephitic Cloud from the a Rod of Clouds and we BOTH get confused. Now I am cornered, and I cannot read scrolls because of confusion and cannot even move around because I will get penance because of it but he IS hitting me. So I foolishly tried to wait a couple of turns for confusion get away but he hit me hard and I died.

Now I know I could probably get out of that situation and take the penance and it's not completely "impossible", but I still think it was a bit harsh of a situation where the enemy tried to confuse me but confuse itself but I cannot hit it in TSO's rules even though I'm dying there. I wanted to ask if others find this unjust and if anything can be done about this.

TL;DR Minatour corners me and casts a cloud which confuses both of us, I cannot hit him because The Shining One will get mad, while he hits me to death. What do?
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Post Wednesday, 9th November 2016, 18:16

Re: Impossible Situation with Shining One and Confusion

FR: Make TSO hate it when you cause confusion, but allow hitting the confused if you are not the cause.
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Post Wednesday, 9th November 2016, 18:25

Re: Impossible Situation with Shining One and Confusion

Shtopit wrote:FR: Make TSO hate it when you cause confusion, but allow hitting the confused if you are not the cause.


Right now, if I understand correctly, TSO doesn't mind when you hex someone and run away. Why should this be changed to solve a different problem? Why not have TSO stop you from performing the forbidden attack, similar to how you can't walk into deep water/lava while confused?
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Post Wednesday, 9th November 2016, 18:50

Re: Impossible Situation with Shining One and Confusion

I think the best solution will be to disable the god conduct while you are confused so you can do whatever without penance (even shooting poison needles if you want). Also the same exception should be applied to allies, I am speaking it as a person who died to Bone Dragon in Spider as Mummy of Yred. IMHO it is easy from flavor point of view - you are confused so you are not fully aware of what you are doing.
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Post Thursday, 10th November 2016, 00:10

Re: Impossible Situation with Shining One and Confusion

Can that be exploited somehow? Quaff ambrosia and start shooting curare or confusion needles? Confusion is somewhat less dangerous than it was before.
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Post Thursday, 10th November 2016, 00:25

Re: Impossible Situation with Shining One and Confusion

You'd be shooting needles in random directions so that sounds pretty terrible

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