New Background: Deprived


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Post Sunday, 30th October 2016, 21:43

New Background: Deprived

Starts with one ration, no other items, 0 in every skill, and "even" stats. A challenge background for those who want to die more.
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Post Sunday, 30th October 2016, 22:07

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The hyperstreak killer.

I'm not sure if it's so fun to pray to find a weapon before finding monsters stronger than rats, but otherwise - why not?

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Post Sunday, 30th October 2016, 23:00

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Arrhythmia wrote:Starts with one ration, no other items, 0 in every skill, and "even" stats. A challenge background for those who want to die more.


Go further: No rations, no stats beside whatever the base species values are, and they start in the Abyss with no god.

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Post Sunday, 30th October 2016, 23:05

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New Background: Depraved

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Post Sunday, 30th October 2016, 23:23

Re: New Background: Deprived

don't they at least get a club or something in the souls games?

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Post Sunday, 30th October 2016, 23:29

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luckless wrote:don't they at least get a club or something in the souls games?


Yeah, and their Club was actually a half decent weapon.
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Post Sunday, 30th October 2016, 23:43

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It's not in crawl, but I still think it'd be a bit nicer(in a good way).
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Post Monday, 31st October 2016, 05:37

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luckless wrote:don't they at least get a club or something in the souls games?


getting a club would be acceptable.
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Post Monday, 31st October 2016, 06:13

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Would this class be the dark souls of crawl, or the crawl of dark souls??? :ugeek: :| :shock:

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Post Monday, 31st October 2016, 06:17

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This background ought to start with a pet OOF.
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Post Monday, 31st October 2016, 07:37

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The difference between the dark souls version and this is Dark Soul's mechanics mean with perfect play such a start can quite easily win. In crawl this background would die to most monsters found on d:1.

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Post Monday, 31st October 2016, 10:50

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id really hate to see any references to soul games in crawl
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Post Monday, 31st October 2016, 11:45

Re: New Background: Deprived

Does this need a background of its own? A player who wants a self-imposed challenge can simply drop all their items on the first turn if they feel like it.

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Post Monday, 31st October 2016, 12:08

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Dioneo wrote:Does this need a background of its own? A player who wants a self-imposed challenge can simply drop all their items on the first turn if they feel like it.


But you've still got those damned skill levels making things too easy!

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Post Monday, 31st October 2016, 12:37

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Airwolf wrote:
Dioneo wrote:Does this need a background of its own? A player who wants a self-imposed challenge can simply drop all their items on the first turn if they feel like it.


But you've still got those damned skill levels making things too easy!


Too bad they removed book-amnesia. Otherwise you could just pick a magic background and rip up your spellbook on the first turn. Apart from a tiny bit of Dodging and Stealth, you'd be pretty much as described in the OP.
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Post Monday, 31st October 2016, 13:51

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kroki wrote:id really hate to see any references to soul games in crawl


fair enough. i only picked the name because i didn't want to think of one and the idea would be instantly clear to people who had played a souls game. if it went it, i'd like to see it get a different name.
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Post Monday, 31st October 2016, 13:53

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Arrhythmia wrote:
kroki wrote:id really hate to see any references to soul games in crawl


fair enough. i only picked the name because i didn't want to think of one and the idea would be instantly clear to people who had played a souls game. if it went it, i'd like to see it get a different name.

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Post Monday, 31st October 2016, 14:29

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nicolae wrote:Go further: No rations, no stats beside whatever the base species values are, and they start in the Abyss with no god.
This is just start-scumming AK.
Won (52). Remaining (15): 5 species: Ba, Fe, Mu, Na, Op; 5 Backgrounds: AM, Wr, Su, AE, Ar; 5 gods: Jiyv, newNem, WJC, newSif, newFedh

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Post Monday, 31st October 2016, 22:01

Re: New Background: Deprived

chequers' post is spot on.

I wrote a patch of something close that you can apply offline though. Save the attached file, rename the file extension to .patch, and apply.

This version can survive past D:1 while still ensuring your ground isn't too soft. Edit it and play with it as you like, but I expect this kind of thing will never be pushed to the actual game.
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Post Monday, 31st October 2016, 22:22

Re: New Background: Deprived

A background that changes stat level up mechanics wouldn't get up, but it's a clever idea for a species...

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Post Monday, 31st October 2016, 23:17

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I've thought about this in the past and would enjoying playing it were it an option.

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Post Monday, 31st October 2016, 23:42

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chequers wrote:A background that changes stat level up mechanics wouldn't get up
we have pills for that now

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