Make Benemut Bypass Mutation Resistance

[bcadren]

There's something particularly annoying about identifying a stack of four benemut, quaffing the first one and getting mutation resistance and the other three having no effect because of the mutation resistance from the first one. (That specifically happened to me). In a more general case, I don't think it's necessary for this one good mut to be bad in this one edge case. Additionally if you're doing it through Zin Mutation resistance, you're already losing piety (or even getting wrath; I don't remember), having the resistance make it fail would be just insulting.

[Shtopit]

Are there still different levels of ResMut?

The mutation resistance could interact with benemut by giving a cap to good mutations with multiple levels, instead of outright negating them. If you already have e.g. scales 1 and you gain ResMut 1, the scales can get up to scales 2 but cannot reach scales 3; the benemut potion will instead cause a new mutation or strengthen another mutation which hasn't reached its cap or diminish a negative mutation. If you have ResMut 2, the cap reduces itself to 1. If you have ResMut 3, the potions can only diminish negative mutations.

Normal mutation can keep working as it does now.

[Brannock]

The mutation resistance could interact with benemut by giving a cap to good mutations with multiple levels, instead of outright negating them. If you already have e.g. scales 1 and you gain ResMut 1, the scales can get up to scales 2 but cannot reach scales 3; the benemut potion will instead cause a new mutation or strengthen another mutation which hasn't reached its cap or diminish a negative mutation. If you have ResMut 2, the cap reduces itself to 1. If you have ResMut 3, the potions can only diminish negative mutations.

Sounds complicated to me. What do you think this function would accomplish in game terms?

[Shtopit]

It's just a way to let benemut keep being good while allowing it to be diminished by rMut.

[Shard1697]

It's just a way to let benemut keep being good while allowing it to be diminished by rMut.

Why, though? What reason is there for benemut to be diminished by rMut?

[Shtopit]

Well, it is a potion of mutation which is specialized in good effects. It makes sense that it also is affected by rMut, since all of its effects can be brought by other sources of mutation, and these sources are subjected to rMut. It would make rMut more of an advantage than it is now, but still keep some side effect, and avoid benemut becoming useless.

Option B is making all potions of mutation and benemutation ignore rMut, and make rMut only count against malmutating attackers (Cacodaemon, WrStars, etc). This is simple, but also removes almost all side effects from rMut.

By rMut I mean the mutation, not the ego, I don't know how that interacts with potions or whether it still is somewhere to be found.

[Chicken]

OTOH you could just not quaff benemut when you know you're mutation resistant. It's not like *that* blessed state of affairs doesn't change soon enough, one way or the other.

By the way, what determines when you're actually stopped from breaking some stupid god law as opposed to merely penalized? I mean, my troll foolishly followed Elyviwhazzis for a bit after praying at an effaced altar, and the game just plain would not let him dissect dead trolls for meat and skins. I mean the temerity of it, simply not letting a troll eat meat! You might as well tell a river not to flow downhill...

[jwoodward48ss]

That was recently changed. I support making it an option set to default, but it was made into inner-workings-of-the-game, really-hard-to-change code, not some options thing that players are actually meant to mess with.

[PleasingFungus]

reasons crawl does not need more options (an incomplete list)

1- Starting Screen.
name, remember_name, weapon, species, background,
combo, random_pick, good_random, restart_after_game,
restart_after_save, default_manual_training,
autopickup_starting_ammo
2- File System and Sound.
crawl_dir, morgue_dir, save_dir, macro_dir, sound
3- Interface.
3-a Dropping and Picking up.
autopickup, autopickup_exceptions, default_autopickup,
pickup_thrown, assign_item_slot,
pickup_menu_limit, drop_filter
3-b Passive Sightings (detected and remembered entities).
detected_monster_colour, detected_item_colour,
remembered_monster_colour
3-c Branding (Item and Monster Highlighting).
friend_brand, neutral_brand, stab_brand, may_stab_brand,
heap_brand, feature_item_brand, trap_item_brand
3-d Level Map Functions.
level_map_cursor_step, show_waypoints
3-e Viewport Display Options.
view_max_width, view_max_height, view_lock_x,
view_lock_y, view_lock, center_on_scroll,
symmetric_scroll, scroll_margin_x, scroll_margin_y,
scroll_margin
3-f Travel and Exploration.
travel_delay, explore_delay, rest_delay, travel_avoid_terrain,
explore_greedy, explore_stop, explore_stop_pickup_ignore,
explore_wall_bias, explore_improved, auto_sacrifice,
travel_key_stop, tc_reachable, tc_dangerous, tc_disconnected,
tc_excluded, tc_exclude_circle,
runrest_ignore_message, runrest_stop_message,
runrest_safe_poison, runrest_ignore_monster,
rest_wait_both, rest_wait_percent, explore_auto_rest,
auto_exclude
3-g Command Enhancements.
auto_switch, travel_open_doors, easy_unequip, equip_unequip,
jewellery_prompt, easy_confirm, allow_self_target,
confirm_butcher, easy_eat_chunks, easy_quit_item_prompts,
easy_exit_menu, ability_menu, sort_menus, spell_slot,
item_slot, ability_slot, autofight_stop, autofight_warning,
autofight_hunger_stop, autofight_hunger_stop_undead,
autofight_throw, autofight_throw_nomove, autofight_fire_stop,
autofight_caught, autofight_wait, autofight_prompt_range,
automagic_enable, automagic_slot, automagic_fight,
automagic_stop, fail_severity_to_confirm, easy_door,
warn_hatches, enable_recast_spell, confirm_action,
regex_search, autopickup_search
3-h Message and Display Improvements.
hp_warning, mp_warning, hp_colour, mp_colour, stat_colour,
status_caption_colour, enemy_hp_colour, clear_messages,
show_more, small_more, show_newturn_mark,
show_game_turns, item_stack_summary_minimum,
mlist_min_height, mlist_allow_alternate_layout,
mlist_targeting, msg_min_height, msg_max_height,
messages_at_top, skill_focus, msg_condense_repeats,
msg_condense_short, show_travel_trail, monster_list_colour,
view_delay, force_more_message, flash_screen_message,
use_animations, darken_beyond_range, cloud_status
3-i Colours (messages and menus)
menu_colour, message_colour
3-j Missiles.
fire_items_start, fire_order
3-k Message Channels.
plain, prompt, god, pray, duration, danger, food, warning,
recovery, talk, talk_visual, timed_portal, sound,
intrinsic_gain, mutation, monster_spell, monster_enchant,
monster_warning, friend_spell, friend_enchant, friend_action,
monster_damage, monster_target, banishment, rotten_meat,
equipment, floor, multiturn, examine, examine_filter,
diagnostic, error, tutorial, orb, hell_effect, dgl_message
3-l Inscriptions.
autoinscribe, show_god_gift
3-m Macro related Options.
flush.failure, flush.command, flush.message,
additional_macro_file, bindkey
3-n Tiles Options.
tile_show_items, tile_skip_title, tile_menu_icons,
tile_player_col, tile_monster_col, tile_neutral_col,
tile_peaceful_col, tile_friendly_col, tile_plant_col,
tile_item_col, tile_unseen_col, tile_floor_col, tile_wall_col,
tile_mapped_floor_col, tile_mapped_wall_col, tile_door_col,
tile_downstairs_col, tile_upstairs_col, tile_branchstairs_col,
tile_feature_col, tile_trap_col, tile_water_col, tile_lava_col,
tile_excluded_col, tile_excl_centre_col, tile_update_rate,
tile_runrest_rate, tile_key_repeat_delay, tile_tooltip_ms,
tile_tag_pref, tile_full_screen, tile_window_width,
tile_window_height, tile_map_pixels, tile_cell_pixels,
tile_force_overlay, tile_font_crt_file, tile_font_stat_file,
tile_font_msg_file, tile_font_tip_file, tile_font_lbl_file,
tile_font_crt_family, tile_font_stat_family,
tile_font_msg_family, tile_font_lbl_family, tile_font_crt_size,
tile_font_stat_size, tile_font_msg_size, tile_font_tip_size,
tile_font_lbl_size, tile_font_ft_light,
tile_show_minihealthbar, tile_show_minimagicbar,
tile_show_demon_tier, tile_water_anim, tile_misc_anim,
tile_realtime_anim, tile_show_player_species,
tile_layout_priority, tile_display_mode,
tile_level_map_hide_messages, tile_level_map_hide_sidebar,
tile_player_tile, tile_weapon_offsets, tile_shield_offsets
4- Character Dump.
4-a Saving.
dump_on_save
4-b Items and Kills.
kill_map, dump_kill_places, dump_kill_breakdowns,
dump_item_origins, dump_item_origin_price, dump_message_count,
dump_order, dump_book_spells
4-c Notes.
user_note_prefix, note_items, note_monsters,
note_hp_percent, note_skill_levels, note_all_skill_levels,
note_skill_max, note_xom_effects, note_messages,
note_chat_messages, note_dgl_messages
5- Miscellaneous.
5-a All OS.
mouse_input, wiz_mode, explore_mode, char_set, colour,
display_char, feature, mon_glyph, item_glyph,
use_fake_player_cursor, show_player_species, fake_lang, pizza,
read_persist_options

5-b DOS and Windows.
dos_use_background_intensity
5-c Unix.
background_colour, use_fake_cursor

[4Hooves2Appendages]

Not the right place. but... where is the best place to look at the documentation for those?

[Sprucery]

Guide to Crawl's options