Please remove invisibility from chaos effects

[duvessa]

It stops autofight from working and unlike haste/berserk you can wait out its duration on early monsters by kiting them.

[Sandman25]

What about monsters with blink and ranged attack like Orc Wizard and Grinder?

[ydeve]

Each turn spent casting a spell by an invisible orc wizard is another turn to put distance between us while I walk to the upstairs.

[rchandra]

And if you hasted it first?

Yeah, invis is not generally interesting from chaos. It also encourages you to pillardance the foe even if it would normally be quite safe, since berserking an invisible monster can get out of hand without you noticing.

[dpeg]

+1.

[genericpseudonym]

Alternately, change chaos effects in the same way Gozag wrath was changed: make the haste/invis/berserk buffs permanent.

[infinitevox]

Alternately, change chaos effects in the same way Gozag wrath was changed: make the haste/invis/berserk buffs permanent.

Brb, attacking self

[dowan]

I know yiuf hates it when he turns me invisible with his chaos weapon. Yiuf, did you hack duvessa's account?

[Sar]

I thought the point of chaos was to be chaotic...

[pumpyscump]

I thought the point of chaos was to be chaotic...

Replace with SPELL_BLINK_AWAY or maybe SPELL_BLINK_OTHER?

[Category]

In the same vein, perhaps remove invisibility from sky beasts? Or make them permanently invisible, I don't know. Kiting sky beasts to only hit them when they are visible is not very fun.

[dpeg]

Part of the idea behind sky beasts was to show players invisible monsters, before they encounter unseen horrors. Of course, this could be kept by having the sky beast be visible at the start, and then go invisible for good.

[ajon]

That would make sky beasts even less fun I think.

[KoboldLord]

Just make sky beasts fast, so they get free hits if you kite them. If they need to be weakened to compensate for the extra damage, lower their hp or defenses so they're less likely to tank their way through more than one cycle of flickering off and on invisibility.

[Sandman25]

Normal speed Sky Beast shows player how important it is to have a path to run away.

[pumpyscump]

Sky beasts are pretty fantastic