Reduce the Piety Cost of Smiting


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Post Thursday, 14th January 2016, 21:29

Reduce the Piety Cost of Smiting

I still think Beogh is fairly weak and needs more significant boosts; but a small change in the right direction is more likely to get in quickly.

Smiting does 9-12 dam at 0 Invo and 9-72 dam at 27 Invo; currently it costs 3 MP, 80 Nutrition (barely relevant) and 2-4 Piety. I suggest increasing the MP cost, to make it harder to spam in a single fight. 5, instead of 3. AND lowering the piety cost so it's easier to use in multiple fights 1-3 or even 1-2; instead of 2-4.

Specifically this would be a change to:

ability.cc lines 284 and 285:
  Code:
    { ABIL_BEOGH_SMITING, "Smiting",
      3, 0, 80, generic_cost::fixed(3), abflag::NONE },
And Exercise.cc lines 123 and 124:
  Code:
    case ABIL_BEOGH_SMITING:
        return 2 + random2(2);
Should I submit a patch (for two lines of change)?
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Post Thursday, 14th January 2016, 21:47

Re: Reduce the Piety Cost of Smiting

The piety for smiting is already generic_cost::fixed(3), meaning it's always exactly 3. Exercise.cc is just about how to allocate automatic training percents.

I don't see a problem with letting players spam Smiting and have doing so cost some piety, so I don't support this proposed patch.

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Post Friday, 15th January 2016, 01:20

Re: Reduce the Piety Cost of Smiting

From a general coding standpoint, if you're going to show the new code, you also want to include the old code, so that we can tell the differences. I could look up the current code, but I won't, because I'm lazy. Presumably you know what it was :)

So the summary is the mana cost goes from 3 to 5, and the piety cost goes from 3 to 1-3 randomly? Seems like that might make it somewhat harder to use (I suppose this is your goal, but still), smiting something 3-4 times is now a serious mana commitment...Imho it doesn't need a nerf. If anything I'd like it to not have a range of over 60 different damage values (assuming you trained it that much), but that's crawl for you.
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Post Friday, 15th January 2016, 01:39

Re: Reduce the Piety Cost of Smiting

beogh's smite is now absurdly powerful, so we need nerf
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Post Saturday, 16th January 2016, 06:22

Re: Reduce the Piety Cost of Smiting

radinms wrote:beogh's smite is now absurdly powerful, so we need nerf


absurdly shitty follower interface counters it
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Post Saturday, 16th January 2016, 15:43

Re: Reduce the Piety Cost of Smiting

Smiting is available at 2 stars so you can burn a lot of piety before you 'run out'
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