Ogre Transmuter/Chemist: Making Ogre Packs Less Repetitive

[Tiktacy]

Ogre Transmuter:

A powerful ogre whom has ascended past your every day thick headed brute. Extremely talented in the realm of science, Ogre Transmuters are capable of mutating their Ogre brethren into powerful and even deadly creatures. In addition to this, they can also summon hideous monsters to fight on their behalf and they are even capable of transmuting the player themself!

AC: Low
EV: Low
MR: very resistant

He can see invisibility(through his mad scientist glasses)

He has mastered the following spells:

a - Summon greater ugly things
b - malmutate

Has the following abilities:

a - Transmutation Burst: This is the ogres main new spell that allows him to blow up 1 of his mutation potions(Smite targeted 3x3 effect that also creates mutagenic clouds, life freezing cloud) he carries with him to then transmute any ogres(or the player) into one of the following things or apply one of the following effects;

For ogres: Dragon form(acts similarly to dragon for a player except permanent), weapon form(a new form in which they merge with their weapon and become a flying weapon, permanent), Permanent abomination form(they become a large abomination permanently), Permanent shapeshifter form(they become a shapeshifter forever).

For the player: Sheep form, ogre form(turns them into an ogre, still can't wield giant clubs and armor is removed accordingly), spider form, bat form, tree form, snail form(turn into a snail).

b - Drink potion of mutation: This is used when all the ogres in sight have been killed and turns the ogre mad scientist into either a dragon(70% of the time) or on occasionally into a snail or sheep(you can't expect every made scientist to be a genius can you?)


AI NOTES: The ogre is heavily weighted towards using transmutation burst when possible. Also, the monster doesn't need to 'use' the potions of mutation, he can simply drop a number of them on death to simulate that effect.
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Thematically, Ogre Transmuters are mad scientists that create potions of mutation in order to mutate their brethren into various powerful forms. His main purpose however is to try and make packs of ogres less repetitive and more dangerous to players with high MR(which is not uncommon late in the game). These monsters are intended to be extremely dangerous and very common in ogre packs later in the vaults and in the depths.

This idea was inspired by a comment in dynasty's thread about how ogre packs become hack and slash late in the game(and this is intended to fix that problem).

[milski]

This guy is super complex, has multiple obnoxious mechanics, and even then the thing that makes ogre packs less tab friendly is the fact that he has malmutate.

[Tiktacy]

This guy is super complex, has multiple obnoxious mechanics, and even then the thing that makes ogre packs less tab friendly is the fact that he has malmutate.

I basically tacked on everything I could think of to make him a badass, but with that said I imagine that most of his abilities aside from his mutating ogre ability will see some serious changes if this was to ever make it into the game. Malmutate seems a little strange to have now that I think about it, but I will wait to change it until I get more input.

[duvessa]

You're proposing to introduce five new spells, an AI mechanic that doesn't exist anywhere else, 3 new player forms, and 5 new monsters, so that you can add...one new monster. Surely you aren't expecting people to take you seriously?

[Tiktacy]

You're proposing to introduce five new spells, an AI mechanic that doesn't exist anywhere else, 3 new player forms, and 5 new monsters, so that you can add...one new monster. Surely you aren't expecting people to take you seriously?

Thank you for your constructive criticism. I've made some changes to make the monsters much easier to add.

The core concept is the same, but there are only 2 new forms being added(weapon form and dragon form) and 1 new form for players(ogre form). I'm pretty sure snail form already exists, but if it doesn't I can't imagine it would be that difficult to code. It would essentially be the same as bat mode except you go slow instead of fast and have higher armor instead of evasion.

Aside from dragon form, most of the coding can be copy pasted and the only thing you would need to add that is new is the text that describes what is happening("The ogre merges with its weapon!"). You were right about it being a lot, but hopefully these changes have improved it significantly.

[tabstorm]

Ogre mages' only real purpose is to cast banishment or paralysis. There are a lot of other monsters that can do that and are not nearly as weak. Why not just not spawn them and their bands in depths at all?

[Tiktacy]

Ogre mages' only real purpose is to cast banishment or paralysis. There are a lot of other monsters that can do that and are not nearly as weak. Why not just not spawn them and their bands in depths at all?

This was my thought at first, but somebody in dynasts rant thread mentioned an interesting point about how having smaller challenges is sort of a requirement to make the larger challenges more exciting. Essentially, there needs to be these easily killable creatures to keep the game interesting. But, I figured maybe adding a new twist to it later on might mitigate the repetitive nature of ogre bands while not removing them from the equation entirely.

[amaril]

Ogre Cinephile

Ogre Mage Ac/Ev
Replaces ogre bands in depths

Spells/Abilities:
a-Throw Popcorn: summons 2d4 ogres/two-headed ogres/ogre magi around the player, similar to haunt.
b-Inner Flame

[Tiktacy]

Ogre Cinephile

Ogre Mage Ac/Ev
Replaces ogre bands in depths

Spells/Abilities:
a-Throw Popcorn: summons 2d4 ogres/two-headed ogres/ogre magi around the player, similar to haunt.
b-Inner Flame

This is beautiful.

[tedric]

FR: Rod of Popcorn. Has one spell, Throw Popcorn (3MP), that spawns up to 3d5 Popcorns placed randomly in LOS. Popcorns are of the same genus as Death Cobs, but have the stats of a plain rat, are immobile, can't attack, always spawn neutral, and give no XP.

I actually think this could be a decent addition to the game.

[Lasty]

Isn't that just rod of immobile butterflies?

[tedric]

only in the sense that a butterfly is just a faster rat