Give Potion of Resistance rTorment and rHellfire


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Post Wednesday, 29th July 2015, 17:58

Give Potion of Resistance rTorment and rHellfire

They're rare, so it would be useful as a panic button in Extended. Maybe shorten the duration by 1/2 to 1/3 in exchange?

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Post Wednesday, 29th July 2015, 18:35

Re: Give Potion of Resistance rTorment and rHellfire

It's really not a bad idea. I don't generally find more than 4-5 of them.
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Post Wednesday, 29th July 2015, 18:51

Re: Give Potion of Resistance rTorment and rHellfire

No. You can give it MR+ if you like; but rTorm and rHellfire would be...extremely broken.
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Post Wednesday, 29th July 2015, 19:07

Re: Give Potion of Resistance rTorment and rHellfire

Really? I don't think having a rare consumable that gave rTorment would be bad really. It would let tormenting monsters be buffed, or new ones added because players have a broader range of tools for dealing with it.
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Post Wednesday, 29th July 2015, 19:31

Re: Give Potion of Resistance rTorment and rHellfire

bcadren wrote:No. You can give it MR+ if you like; but rTorm and rHellfire would be...extremely broken.


i think new resitance potion already gives mr+ ?
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Post Wednesday, 29th July 2015, 19:39

Re: Give Potion of Resistance rTorment and rHellfire

I don't think it'd be broken. How many resistance pots do you usually have in extended? 5 if you're extremely lucky?

I doubt it would get any dev traction though. Something about rTorment rubs those guys the wrong way, it seems :P .

EDIT: I didn't notice you suggested lowering its duration. I say no to that, it's gotta last through a long fight.
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Post Wednesday, 29th July 2015, 20:27

Re: Give Potion of Resistance rTorment and rHellfire

I don't know that this sounds super broken. You just don't find enough of them (and they have plenty of other uses) to really unbalance things. Having this be an option for "oh no I started the level on hellion island" sounds kind of nice.

rTorment sound less compelling than rHellfire; torment already does not kill you and !resistance gives plenty of rN.
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Post Wednesday, 29th July 2015, 20:40

Re: Give Potion of Resistance rTorment and rHellfire

Well, nothing in crawl kills you except the last hit. But I think it's fair to say that everything that put you in the position for that to be the last hit are part of what killed you. Eating torments until you have 10 hp and getting finished off by a red devil can be blamed more on the torments than the red devil.
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Post Wednesday, 29th July 2015, 20:51

Re: Give Potion of Resistance rTorment and rHellfire

The game already has a potion that gives rTorment
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Post Wednesday, 29th July 2015, 22:37

Re: Give Potion of Resistance rTorment and rHellfire

pubby wrote:The game already has a potion that gives rTorment



aaand /thread (doesnt it give straight out immunity though?)
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Post Wednesday, 29th July 2015, 22:51

Re: Give Potion of Resistance rTorment and rHellfire

It wouldn't be broken, but if there's anything extended doesn't need, it's greater availability of "panic buttons".

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Post Thursday, 30th July 2015, 15:12

Re: Give Potion of Resistance rTorment and rHellfire

pubby wrote:The game already has a potion that gives rTorment

Unfortunately, drinking that potion also gives you rMoving which translates to rLiving in extended.

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