Request: Please let us choose between Monstrous/Normal DS


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Mines Malingerer

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Post Wednesday, 1st July 2015, 23:01

Request: Please let us choose between Monstrous/Normal DS

I would love it so much if we could choose between monstrous and normal DS. I have heard the reason Draconians get their color at lvl 7 is to discourage scumming - but you CAN scum monstrous since for the most part you'll know at lvl 2. I love playing monstrous DS and hate having to level to 2, quit, tab, level 2, quit, tab, etc. I'm not asking to have the specific mutations revealed, of course, just let us choose monstrous/normal... please. :D

Of course, if you decide not to, I'll still play the game loyally. I figure you have your reasons, but it couldn't hurt to make this request. If someone else has asked, I apologize - I must've missed it.

Thanks for all the hard work, everyone. I've had fun for, on and off, years.
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Post Wednesday, 1st July 2015, 23:37

Re: Request: Please let us choose between Monstrous/Normal D

Semi-serious counterpoint: remove monstrous DS. Whenever I get it, I feel like I've won a booby prize, like, "Surprise, you thought you were playing DS, but instead you got this weird semi-troll, hope you weren't planning on using weapons." There's certainly an argument for "Demonspawn mutations should impact your character building decisions," but I find the monstrous/non-monstrous difference to fall in between Dr colors (which are relatively minor, but impactful) and, say, Xom (which expects you to constantly meet new challenges), and not really in a good way.

But, in all fairness to LJFCAT, I don't feel particularly confident in either of these proposals being particularly popular, with devs or players.

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Post Wednesday, 1st July 2015, 23:39

Re: Request: Please let us choose between Monstrous/Normal D

Maybe monstrous demonspawn should be a separate species.
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Post Thursday, 2nd July 2015, 00:00

Re: Request: Please let us choose between Monstrous/Normal D

It might be a good opportunity to do a species mash-up with Ko, Ha, or Vp; I remember bloax had a goofy mega-vampire, and it might be interesting to try the whole blood-as-power thing with monstrousness rather than aliveness.

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Post Thursday, 2nd July 2015, 00:22

Re: Request: Please let us choose between Monstrous/Normal D

archaeo wrote:It might be a good opportunity to do a species mash-up with Ko, Ha, or Vp;

Ha, yeah, forget demonspawn, have 1 in 100 characters of any race start turning into a monstrous variant of that race, after gaining some levels. Force them to adapt to their profound heritage, whether they like it or not. "Your daddy's a demon and your mom is good-looking for a [species name]." Maybe... disable this for felids... :shock:

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Post Thursday, 2nd July 2015, 06:48

Re: Request: Please let us choose between Monstrous/Normal D

Claws is just a silly thing to have as a ds body slot mutation, it's either huge (you are or want to be an unarmed dude) or does nothing (you are not an unarmed dude). I suspect someone decided Ds should be guaranteed a body slot mutation for some reason, noticed there were exactly 3 that made sense (horns, hooves, antennae), decided that was too few, and instead of ditching the idea added the ones that don't make sense (claws, and talons which was "hooves but worse" then, and is "hooves but exactly the same" now). The whole idea of monstrous is just wtf to me, it's equivalent to making "two more body slot mutations" a scales-type facet except it has a super special snowflake chance/message/milestone because it's apparently super cool to have "yo you're guaranteed to get claws and hooves (or talons which are hooves anyway)" happen every 1/10 games but no you can't say that you have to give some oblique message instead of just giving level 1 of the mutations like what every other facet does

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