Make Very Ugly Things more intersting


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Post Friday, 6th February 2015, 16:40

Make Very Ugly Things more intersting

Currently, they are basically just stronger Ugly Things. To make them more interesting, why not give them a class system ala most races, but have the classes be physical mutations:

Horned VUT: Sometimes retaliates
VUT Cleaver: Does cleaving damage
Tentacled VUT: Constrict
VUT Lancer: Reach
Irritable VUT: Berserkitis
Unstable VUT: Blinkitis
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Post Friday, 6th February 2015, 17:18

Re: Make Very Ugly Things more intersting

How long can names be? Is purple the longest color name?

Do they change both colors and classes? Or maybe they don't have colors at all, which makes them lose their link to ugly things?
I proposed beautiful things with classes that interact a while back, and it was not well received.

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Post Friday, 6th February 2015, 17:26

Re: Make Very Ugly Things more intersting

I like the idea of making them more interesting than just Ugly Things +1, like these suggestions well enough (maybe not so much cleaving, but oh well), and figure doing this would replace the elemental affinities. Alternatively, how about their elemental type is hidden unless your character has See Invisible? I've been trying to think up alternate uses for SInv lately, other areas where lacking it would give the player limited information without being totally unfun and unfair, and Albino Ugly Things seems like it might work. Hideously pale and even further twisted beyond its brethren, only a very careful observer can detect the elemental aura that surrounds them.

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Post Saturday, 7th February 2015, 21:35

Re: Make Very Ugly Things more intersting

give them two of the colors of regular ugly things, with the attack brands and resistances of both
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Post Saturday, 7th February 2015, 21:47

Re: Make Very Ugly Things more intersting

  Code:
purple very ugly thing (u) | Spd: 15 (move: 90%) | HD: 18 | HP: 119-177 | AC/EV: 6/10 | Dam: 54 | doors | Res: magic(40) | Vul: silver | Chunks: mutagenic | XP: 1447 | Sz: Large | Int: animal.

Here's a berserk very ugly thing in case you're wondering how that would look.
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!lg * won !DD-- min=turns -log
<Sequell> 20749. Bloax, XL24 VSTm, T:13320: http://crawl.lantea.net/crawl/morgue/Bloax/morgue-Bloax-20140907-000920.txt

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Post Saturday, 7th February 2015, 22:48

Re: Make Very Ugly Things more intersting

Make Very Ugly Things proto-TRJs, taking enough damage spawns Ugly Things (of varying colors)

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Post Saturday, 7th February 2015, 23:16

Re: Make Very Ugly Things more intersting

Is there an actual compelling reason for very ugly things to exist? Surely 6 different regular ugly things is enough.

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Post Sunday, 8th February 2015, 21:37

Re: Make Very Ugly Things more intersting

duvessa wrote:Is there an actual compelling reason for very ugly things to exist? Surely 6 different regular ugly things is enough.



for them to turn white and 2-hit you from full hp even though youve got rc+
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Post Monday, 9th February 2015, 04:59

Re: Make Very Ugly Things more intersting

duvessa wrote:Is there an actual compelling reason for very ugly things to exist? Surely 6 different regular ugly things is enough.


I wonder if VUTs as often-solitary pack leaders of UTs would make more sense than the current incarnation. They could benefit from all nearby ugly things.

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Post Monday, 9th February 2015, 05:17

Re: Make Very Ugly Things more intersting

They already usually spawn a like that.

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