Wizlab probability?


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Post Wednesday, 1st October 2014, 07:08

Wizlab probability?

What's the probability for a single game to contain a wizlab? I feel like they could be made more common, but maybe I've just been unlucky.
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Post Thursday, 2nd October 2014, 08:12

Re: Wizlab probability?

Speaking from personal experience, out of the 30 or so (rough estimate) games where I've made it to the realm of Zot, I have only encountered a Wizlab 3 times. It's possible that I'm misremembering and it's actually only been 2.

I think they're interesting and I'd like to see them more often. I'm the "Clear everything" kind of crawl player.
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Post Thursday, 2nd October 2014, 08:42

Re: Wizlab probability?

I've found 18 wizlabs in 45 winning games online (didn't count any in unwon games). I almost always do Elf and Crypt, though.
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Post Thursday, 2nd October 2014, 08:57

Re: Wizlab probability?

I''m guessing they're rarer than they used to be: since Depths replaced a big chunk of Dungeon there are probably fewer levels per game where they can be generated and so less chance to find them.
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Post Thursday, 2nd October 2014, 09:28

Re: Wizlab probability?

I have 8 victories and two late splats (one in extended, one with the Orb) since DCSS 0.6 where wizlabs where introduced. I also always do Elf and Crypt. Out of these 10 games I've been in one Wizlab and I believe I missed one once on D:27.
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Post Thursday, 2nd October 2014, 12:33

Re: Wizlab probability?

IIRC, the last time I looked into this, the numbers were about one in three, for games that got far enough for wizlabs to spawn.

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Post Thursday, 2nd October 2014, 14:23

Re: Wizlab probability?

Maybe it's bad(?) luck, but I haven't seen a wizlab in several months (like maybe 3-4?) Although my historical recollection seems to correspond with the 1:3 ratio fairly well.
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Post Thursday, 2nd October 2014, 15:46

Re: Wizlab probability?

8 of 19 if I just check my recent wins, so still sounds about right.
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Post Thursday, 2nd October 2014, 21:11

Re: Wizlab probability?

I just had one appear too early in my current game. It was a portal on Vault:1 that I couldn't get to, but even if I could have I think XL17 might have got him killed dead trying it. Granted, that was probably too early to venture in to Vaults in the first place.

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