Make Sublimation of Blood targetable.

[XuaXua]

Sublimation was recently (in my opinion) nerfed as it no longer works on chunks.

I propose to make Sublimation targetable on blooded creatures (in the same way Haste is targetable) in order to replenish MP. As far as I know, there is no player mechanic to do this (some monsters have it or an iteration of it, though).

This may require a review of Sublimation's level / cost in the hierarchy of spells, or an entirely new spell.

[dck]

There is no mechanic for monster MP to begin with, so there is no such iteration by any stretch of the imagination.
They do, some, replenish HP on casting but then that's hardly apples to apples.

Casting sublood on chunks was a pretty big pain in the ass that paid off very well (very well in the sif muna-ish side of MP recovery speeds between battles when standing on dangerous zones) and that's kinda shitty design.

[wheals]

I think XuaXua actually means that you get the mp? which seems kind of crazy to get mp for no cost just because there's a yak around

[Roderic]

And a "steal mana" from monsters able to cast? effect: gain Mp + a "silence" status on target

[dck]

What I meant is that no monsters have anything of the sort.
I didn't address the part about stealing MP from orcs while killing said orcs because well.

[and into]

Yes it was probably a nerf, but that's only a problem if one thinks that in its current form it is not worth two spell slots (compare to swiftness change). I don't think that's the case so I don't see the necessity for any compensatory buff.

[Leafsnail]

"Turn your HP into MP" seems interesting enough to me. I don't think it needs any other gimmicks.

[XuaXua]

I didn't address the part about stealing MP from orcs while killing said orcs because well.

It's how the Vampirism brand and related spell work, except for HP.

[duvessa]

monsters have HP

and also, wow

[XuaXua]

monsters have HP

and also, wow

and monsters cast spells

and also, dck

[savageorange]

I was completely unaware that monsters have wow, or that they cast dck.

You learn something new every day, I guess.

[dck]

monsters wish they could just cast dck like that

[njvack]

Unless I'm misreading things, the OP was suggesting making subl work like vampiric draining, except that it would yield MP instead of HP. Not that it would siphon off monsters' MP or something silly like all y'all seem to be suggesting.

If that's the case, though, I don't think "vampiric draining except with MP" would be a good addition to crawl. Current subl is good.

[XuaXua]

Thanks for bringing it back on target.

[Kate]

This is not a good idea, and conveniently also comes with no reasoning at all as to why it should be changed ("there is no player mechanic that does this" does not qualify for that, if it was supposed to). See the readme.