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Unique: Redhawk

PostPosted: Tuesday, 6th May 2014, 18:18
by Klown
The son of Runs-With-Buffaloes, Redhawk is a tomahawk throwing Chief from a nearby tribe. He always has randomly branded tomahawks along with a leather armour, and a war axe. After getting trampled in a buffalo stampede, he's chosen to enter the Dungeon to train his skills and become a worthy hunter and Chief of his tribe. Once he catches you in his sight, he'll scream his war cry non-stop, alerting others of your presence until either you or him are dead.

HP: 30
HD: 4
XP: 100
Speed: 10
AC: 0
EV: 12
MR: 15
Appears on Dungeon 4-9

Re: Unique: Redhawk

PostPosted: Tuesday, 6th May 2014, 18:25
by n1000
laying the stereotypes on a bit thick don't you think

Re: Unique: Redhawk

PostPosted: Tuesday, 6th May 2014, 18:25
by Cheibrodos
this is so racist.

Re: Unique: Redhawk

PostPosted: Tuesday, 6th May 2014, 18:27
by tasonir
15 EV is HUGE for early dungeon, and giving an unrandart leather armor all the time is probably too much. Make it usually an enchanted one, with a chance to be an unrand? Seems like all that ranged damage (branded tomahawks can be nasty) might be more suited for d8-10, and lair 1-4 or so. But that kind of adjustment can depend on actual testing, I don't know what his exact damage output would be. Lower his EV to 5 or so, imho (yaks have 4 if I remember correctly, for comparison)

Constant screaming is interesting, although I'm not sure it gives the players many options on how to engage him.

Re: Unique: Redhawk

PostPosted: Tuesday, 6th May 2014, 18:27
by Sar
you mean the son of Runs-With-Death-Yaks

Re: Unique: Redhawk

PostPosted: Tuesday, 6th May 2014, 19:15
by Klown
n1000 wrote:laying the stereotypes on a bit thick don't you think


I'm part Native American, this is all historically accurate.

Re: Unique: Redhawk

PostPosted: Tuesday, 6th May 2014, 19:15
by Moose
How is this remotely racist?

Re: Unique: Redhawk

PostPosted: Tuesday, 6th May 2014, 19:30
by Klown
tasonir wrote:15 EV is HUGE for early dungeon, and giving an unrandart leather armor all the time is probably too much. Make it usually an enchanted one, with a chance to be an unrand? Seems like all that ranged damage (branded tomahawks can be nasty) might be more suited for d8-10, and lair 1-4 or so. But that kind of adjustment can depend on actual testing, I don't know what his exact damage output would be. Lower his EV to 5 or so, imho (yaks have 4 if I remember correctly, for comparison)

Constant screaming is interesting, although I'm not sure it gives the players many options on how to engage him.


Thanks for the input.
Blork has 9 EV(at least wiki says so), this guy is supposed to be light and fast. Dropped it to 12. With the leather armour, it changes to 3 AC, 11 EV. ;)
Giving him a standard war axe(11 base damage) & leather armour alongside his branded tomahawks(6 base damage).

Re: Unique: Redhawk

PostPosted: Tuesday, 6th May 2014, 19:34
by DracheReborn
I dunno about racist, but this is a stereotype from the wrong genre.

Re: Unique: Redhawk

PostPosted: Tuesday, 6th May 2014, 19:56
by TeshiAlair

Re: Unique: Redhawk

PostPosted: Tuesday, 6th May 2014, 20:27
by KittenInMyCerealz
I like it. There should be more uniques on the lower floors. It should appear a bit deeper though, if you run into him on D4 you just get instakilled i think.
Also is it a human or some other race?

Re: Unique: Redhawk

PostPosted: Tuesday, 6th May 2014, 21:18
by Klown
KittenInMyCerealz wrote:I like it. There should be more uniques on the lower floors. It should appear a bit deeper though, if you run into him on D4 you just get instakilled i think.
Also is it a human or some other race?


Human. :)

Re: Unique: Redhawk

PostPosted: Tuesday, 6th May 2014, 22:01
by TeshiAlair
Or just move Urug lower since he's utterly uninteresting where he is right now and avoid having a completely bizarre new unique occupying the same niche

Re: Unique: Redhawk

PostPosted: Tuesday, 13th May 2014, 14:53
by scorpionwarrior
Crawl already has enough fictional racial stereotypes in it, I don't think we need to add examples from real-life. I don't have a problem with a unique being native american, but this guy just seems like a crazed sports mascot.

Like how would people react if someone proposed a unique who was a black guy with a dumb name that does voodoo magic and has a bone through his nose.

Re: Unique: Redhawk

PostPosted: Tuesday, 13th May 2014, 15:03
by khalil
scorpionwarrior wrote:Crawl already has enough fictional racial stereotypes in it, I don't think we need to add examples from real-life. I don't have a problem with a unique being native american, but this guy just seems like a crazed sports mascot.

Like how would people react if someone proposed a unique who was a black guy with a dumb name that does voodoo magic and has a bone through his nose.

The fans on /vg/ would probably be all for it.
See, the joke is /pol/.

Re: Unique: Redhawk

PostPosted: Tuesday, 13th May 2014, 17:25
by Viashino_wizard
Onehawk
Twohawk
Redhawk
Bluehawk

More seriously, this guy is just a weak Urug but with more racist undertones.

Re: Unique: Redhawk

PostPosted: Tuesday, 13th May 2014, 18:28
by Ghoul King
Why are we running into a Native American in some vaguely medieval Europe environment? And what are these 'buffalo' you speak of, strange crazy foreigner? I know of Death Yaks and Elephants and other vicious evil quadrupedal hellbeasts, but this 'buffalo' sounds like a fairy tale to me.

Only thing interesting about this guy is the incessant screaming, drawing everything into the fight if you try to retreat. Which honestly sounds like: if the guy is manageable, it's irrelevant. If he's dangerous enough to justify fleeing, he risks becoming a death sentence to a lot of characters. No thanks.

Re: Unique: Redhawk

PostPosted: Tuesday, 13th May 2014, 18:38
by Sar
GhoulKing wrote:vaguely medieval Europe environment

wut

Re: Unique: Redhawk

PostPosted: Tuesday, 13th May 2014, 18:42
by Arrhythmia
Ghoul King wrote:Why are we running into a Native American in some vaguely medieval Europe environment? And what are these 'buffalo' you speak of, strange crazy foreigner? I know of Death Yaks and Elephants and other vicious evil quadrupedal hellbeasts, but this 'buffalo' sounds like a fairy tale to me.


Maybe he's referring to a European Buffalo
or a Water Buffalo
or perhaps an Italian Buffalo
possibly even the African Buffalo.

Re: Unique: Redhawk

PostPosted: Tuesday, 13th May 2014, 18:44
by Ghoul King
Sar wrote:
GhoulKing wrote:vaguely medieval Europe environment

wut


I said 'vaguely' for a reason.