Proposal: Remove the Lair Ice Dragon Vault

[Laraso]

So I guess this is what I get for trying to play a Mummy Ice Elementalist. I go down the stairs to Lair:2, only to be greeted by Ice Devils and Ice Dragons (also, freezing wraiths). That's, right, Ice Dragons. There wasn't even a runed door to lock them in or anything, the dragons were just roaming around with their Ice Devil minions, happily disrupting my otherwise smooth-sailing game.

Some other people in IRC were talking about how they ran into ten ice dragons on Lair:1. Seriously, who's idea was this, and how drunk were they when they added this?

[dck]

what is this vault called this sounds hilarious.

[dpeg]

I scream, you scream, ice cream dragon party!

[Laraso]

what is this vault called this sounds hilarious.

ice2_lemuel

[dpeg]

It should be obvious that this is a bug. Instead of calling for removal, giving the vault name would've helped more. Anyway, thanks for bringing this to our attention.

[Sar]

There's a legit Lair vault that places ice dragons, a frozen island with one dragon and white imps. But yeah, multiple ones sounds excessive.

[claws]

Yes, it is indeed rather silly to aggressively assume that any change is a deliberate attempt to ruin everybody's day forever, and anything between a morgue file or a provided save to further details or even just a bug report instead of an angry tavern thread would have been an attempt at aide rather than complaint for such a minor code mishap. Whatever.

[dpeg]

  Code:

22:55 < Cheibriados> tenofswords * 0.14-a0-3189-ge52642f: Fix reversed glyph logic
                     in ice2_lemuel (2 minutes ago, 1 file, 7+ 7-)
http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=e52642fb0cd4

[dpeg]

Edit: grrr, too slow

[dck]

rip

[duvessa]

There are vaults that place far more dangerous things than 10 Lair:1 ice dragons. It's pretty unreasonable to expect people to just know it was an accident - most players don't examine every commit, and I suspect most players don't even know how to find a specific vault in the source.

[SublimeSnake]

There are vaults that place far more dangerous things than 10 Lair:1 ice dragons. It's pretty unreasonable to expect people to just know it was an accident - most players don't examine every commit, and I suspect most players don't even know how to find a specific vault in the source.

I agree, especially since the philosophy section of the manual specifically says something about OOD monsters not being bugs. Ice Dragons in lair are basically just OOD, and comparatively not more dangerous than killer bees on D:3.

[Hirsch I]

proposal, remove killer bees. they are obviously bugs.