Proposal: Ru, god of balance and sacrifice


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Post Friday, 11th July 2014, 15:18

Re: Proposal: Iashol, God of balance and sacrifice

Roderic wrote:Ok no more horrifying blood but now I am experiencing oddities like stabbing a monster and feeling a twist of horror at the sight of this foe, after I have slain it.

Besides, the same message appears sometimes when no monster is in sight.


Oh, weird. It's possible that I'm not checking whether the monster is visible before counting it. I'll put that on the list.

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Post Monday, 14th July 2014, 10:36

Re: Proposal: Iashol, God of balance and sacrifice

Over the weekend pushed a bunch of patches, including:
* Changing Sac Armour eligibility to prevent those unable to train Armour due to race from taking it
* Prevent conjured minions (e.g. ball lightning, battlesphere) from being made hostile by Sacrifice Love
* Made language around hands singular case after Sacrifice Hand
* Added ontoclasm's ability tiles
* Cleaned up and fixed issues with the * ability
* Added a wizard command to force new sacrifices

And a few other little things.The main remaining issue is acquirement, because it scares me.

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Post Monday, 14th July 2014, 23:06

Re: Proposal: Iashol, God of balance and sacrifice

Just won a Iashol game. Cataclysm felt pretty strong, specially considering it costs nothing. and Power Leap is good too, almost a free Cblink. add in healing, and that was the easiest game I ever played. oh, and I did not understand what does sacrifice sanity does. negative slaying or something like that? it was not very clear.
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Post Tuesday, 15th July 2014, 09:10

Re: Proposal: Iashol, God of balance and sacrifice

Hirsch I wrote:Just won a Iashol game. Cataclysm felt pretty strong, specially considering it costs nothing. and Power Leap is good too, almost a free Cblink. add in healing, and that was the easiest game I ever played. oh, and I did not understand what does sacrifice sanity does. negative slaying or something like that? it was not very clear.
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The Horror status gives -slaying (accuracy and damage) and a wizardry penalty, each in proportion to the amount of Horror you have


I had the same doubt above, a posteriori makes sense but difficult to figure out without hints. What about a prompt when getting this sacrifice: "You're afraid that you'll be less proficent in killing foes" or something like that?
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Post Tuesday, 15th July 2014, 18:27

Re: Proposal: Iashol, God of balance and sacrifice

Looks like there is a minor typo when silencing enemies with Catalcysm.

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BWOOM!!! You release an incredible blast of power in all directions!!!
The vampire knight silenced by your wave of power!!!
You annihilate the deep troll!!!
The deep troll earth mage silenced by your wave of power!!!

Edit: Making monsters permanently mute is pretty sweet.

Edit2: I've taken the "You are hated by all." sacrifice, but elementals from the evokers seem to stay friendly.

Edit3: Crashed the game trying to leap while constricted by a Naga ritualist. I got the constriction escape attempt failed message and the attack animation at my current location, but then crashed.

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Post Wednesday, 16th July 2014, 07:57

Re: Proposal: Iashol, God of balance and sacrifice

Some minor issues: When offered the chance to take a -2 str mutation, it's called "weak", which I thought was going to be the status that orange demons inflict on you. Maybe call it something else, feebleness, weakened?

I sacced a few spell schools, and when reading a book, select a spell that you can't memorize, at the bottom it shows:

You cannot memorise or cast this spell because you are a minotaur.

I don't think minotaurs are blocked from any spells, it should be because I sacrificed it willingly :)

New * aura seems a bit weaker/less obvious than the old one, but that's probably good because the old one was too powerful. Seems to be helping, but I'm a minotaur with a demon blade of pain in lair, so things have been pretty tabby and it's hard to tell. I was playing harder combos but kept dying before I could make any sacrifices :P

  Code:
Ru asks you to sacrifice your ability to be loved.
 This is a trivial sacrifice.
 You are now hated by all.
 You hear a roar! x2
 You hear a screech! x2
 You hear a roar! You hear a screech! You hear a roar! You hear a screech!
 You hear a screech! x3
 You hear a bark!
 The fungus turns against you! The plant turns against you!
 The fungus turns against you! x2
 You hear a shout! x2
 You hear a screech! You hear a bark! You hear a croak.
 You hear a loud, deep croak! You hear a croak. You hear a loud, deep croak!
 You hear an angry growl.


Is saccing love supposed to be that loud?

Edit: Additional feedback:
  Code:
You redirect the seven-headed hydra's attack!
 The seven-headed hydra bites itself. The seven-headed hydra bites itself!!
 The seven-headed hydra bites itself! x2
 The seven-headed hydra bites itself. The seven-headed hydra bites itself!
 The seven-headed hydra dies!


This is the * aura, correct? Works well against hydras :)

  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15-a0-2079-g5f9ff78 (webtiles) character file.

tasonir the Blocker (Minotaur Fighter)             Turns: 25370, Time: 01:21:48

HP 127/127       AC 21     Str 21      XL: 14   Next: 81%
MP   5/5         EV  9     Int  5      God: Ru [*****.]
Gold 1128        SH 14     Dex 11      Spells:  3 memorised,  0 levels left

rFire  + . .     SeeInvis .     a - +0 demon blade of Aggunev {pain, rF+}
rCold  . . .     Clarity  .     g - +0 chain mail
rNeg   . . .     rCorr    .     c - +0 shield
rPois  .         rRot     .     W - +2 hat
rElec  .         Spirit   .     U - +1 cloak
SustAb .         Warding  .     l - +0 pair of gloves
rMut   .         Stasis   .     p - +1 pair of boots
Gourm  +                        R - amulet of the gourmand
MR     +....                    T - ring of wizardry
                                (no ring)

@: somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: retaliatory headbutt, horns 2, clumsy 1, weak 1, cannot read while
threatened, no stealth, inspire hatred in others, insane, cannot use Air magic,
cannot use Hexes magic, cannot use Summoning magic
a: Sacrifice Essence, Sacrifice Artifice, Sacrifice a Hand, Draw Out Power,
Power Leap, Cataclysm, Renounce Religion


You are on level 1 of the Orcish Mines.
You worship Ru.
Ru is extremely pleased with you.
You are full.

You have visited 4 branches of the dungeon, and seen 20 of its levels.
You have also visited: Ossuary.

You have collected 1128 gold pieces.


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You reflexively headbutt those who attack you in melee.
You have a pair of horns on your head.
You are clumsy. (Dex -2)
You are weak. (Str -2)
You cannot read scrolls while threatened.
You cannot be stealthy.
You are hated by all.
You have lost your grip on sanity.
You cannot study or cast Air magic.
You cannot study or cast Hexes magic.
You cannot study or cast Summoning magic.


   Skills:
 + Level 12.5 Fighting
 - Level 14.7 Long Blades
 + Level 12.5 Armour
 - Level 12.0 Dodging
 - Level 15.0 Shields
 - Level 6.0 Necromancy


You cannot memorise any spells.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Haste                 Chrm           #.......     100%        6    #######
b - Stoneskin             Trmt/Erth      #.........   98%         2    ###....
c - Dispel Undead         Necr           #.......     99%         5    ######.


Inventory:

Hand weapons
 a - the +0 demon blade of Aggunev (weapon) {pain, rF+}
   (You found it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   In the hands of one skilled in necromantic magic, it inflicts extra damage
   on living creatures.
   
   It protects you from fire.
 b - a +0 falchion of flaming
Missiles
 m - 133 bolts
 s - 14 bolts of flame
 X - 19 bolts of frost
Armour
 c - a +0 shield (worn)
 g - a +0 chain mail (worn)
 j - a +0 fire dragon armour
 l - a +0 pair of gloves (worn)
 p - a +1 pair of boots (worn)
 r - the +1 buckler of Equg {Str+1 Int-2}
   (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   It affects your strength (+1).
   It affects your intelligence (-2).
 U - a +1 cloak (worn)
 W - a +2 hat (worn)
Magical devices
 D - a wand of cold {zapped: 5}
 G - a wand of teleportation {zapped: 1}
 O - a wand of heal wounds {zapped: 1}
 V - a wand of invisibility (5)
Comestibles
 d - 12 bread rations
 h - 6 beef jerkies
 i - 101 fruits
 n - 10 meat rations
 w - a slice of pizza
 I - a royal jelly
Scrolls
 f - 7 scrolls of remove curse
 o - a scroll of enchant armour
 q - a scroll labeled KLUIHAA ZOISHAEMA
 t - 5 scrolls of teleportation
 y - 3 scrolls of enchant weapon
 A - 2 scrolls of blinking
 C - 3 scrolls of recharging
 J - a scroll labeled MYASHR IDGHYOX
 M - a scroll labeled GULYKA CELEPI
 N - 4 scrolls of magic mapping
 P - 2 scrolls of fog
 Q - a scroll labeled PUADDY JUG SKA
Jewellery
 R - an amulet of the gourmand (around neck)
 T - a ring of wizardry (right hand)
Potions
 e - 3 potions of might
 k - 4 potions of agility
 u - 6 potions of curing
 v - 3 potions of magic
 x - 7 potions of restore abilities
 z - 2 potions of berserk rage
 E - 4 potions of haste
 F - 2 potions of cure mutation
 H - 2 potions of heal wounds
 K - a glowing blue potion
 S - 2 potions of invisibility
 Y - a sedimented white potion
 Z - a smoky red potion
Books
 B - a book of Enchantments
Miscellaneous
 L - a disc of storms


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (10/15)            Temple (1/1) D:6             Orc (1/4) D:9
   Lair (8/8) D:10          Swamp (0/5) Lair:6       Spider (0/5) Lair:3
  Slime (0/6) Lair:8     

Altars:
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One

Annotations:
Lair:3 exclusion: oklob plant

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#...............#
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You can see an orc and a goblin.

Message History

You headbutt the crocodile.
The crocodile is severely wounded.
The crocodile bites you.
You slash the crocodile!
You kill the crocodile!
No target in view!
No target in view!
No target in view!
(D) Dungeon        (T) Temple         (O) Orcish Mines   (L) Lair           
(S) Swamp          (N) Spider Nest    (M) Slime Pits     
Where to? (Enter - Orc:1, ? - help)
There is an open gate, spattered with blood here.
You see here a crocodile corpse.
There is a staircase back to the Dungeon here.
You climb upwards. Welcome back to the Dungeon!
There is a staircase to the Lair here.
You see here a hound skeleton.
HP restored.
There is a stone staircase leading down here.
There is a stone staircase leading up, spattered with blood here.
You climb upwards.
There is a stone staircase leading down here.
Things that are here:
a quarterstaff; a chain mail
There is a staircase to the Orcish Mines here.
You climb downwards. Welcome to the Orcish Mines!
A goblin and an orc come into view.
The goblin shouts! The orc shouts!
Found 24 gold pieces. Found a stone staircase leading down.
There is a staircase back to the Dungeon here.


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Long sword        |    71 |    60 |       |       |       ||   131
       Falchion          |       |    80 |   514 |   644 |    52 ||  1290
       Demon blade       |       |       |       |   472 |  1091 ||  1563
       Unarmed           |       |       |       |    15 |       ||    15
 Fire: Blowgun           |       |       |    12 |     6 |       ||    18
Invok: Sacrifice Arcana  |       |       |       |     2 |       ||     2
       Sacrifice Purity  |       |       |       |     1 |     1 ||     2
       Sacrifice Words   |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
       Sacrifice Sanity  |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
       Power Leap        |       |       |       |       |     3 ||     3
       Sacrifice Love    |       |       |       |       |     2 ||     2
       Sacrifice Stealth |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
       Sacrifice Essence |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
Evoke: Wand              |       |     4 |    11 |       |     8 ||    23
  Use: Scroll            |       |     1 |       |    13 |    11 ||    25
       Potion            |       |       |     5 |     9 |     2 ||    16
 Stab: Invisible         |       |       |       |     1 |     4 ||     5
       Distracted        |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
  Eat: Chunk             |       |     6 |    14 |    35 |    27 ||    82
       Fruit             |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
       Pizza             |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1


Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | tasonir, the Minotaur Fighter, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 19/19 MP: 1/1
    39 | D:1      | Reached skill level 3 in Long Blades
   187 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 26/26 MP: 1/1
   470 | D:2      | Reached skill level 4 in Long Blades
   567 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 31/31 MP: 2/2
   609 | D:2      | Reached skill level 5 in Long Blades
   768 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 36/39 MP: 2/2
   781 | D:2      | Noticed Jessica
   791 | D:2      | Killed Jessica
  1007 | D:2      | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
  1007 | D:2      | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
  1372 | D:3      | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
  1380 | D:3      | Reached skill level 6 in Long Blades
  1423 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 9/45 MP: 2/2
  1913 | D:3      | Reached skill level 7 in Long Blades
  2010 | D:3      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
  2038 | D:3      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
  2281 | D:4      | Noticed an ogre
  2290 | D:4      | Killed an ogre
  2290 | D:4      | Reached skill level 8 in Long Blades
  2290 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 44/51 MP: 3/3
  2670 | D:4      | Noticed Menkaure
  2692 | D:4      | Killed Menkaure
  2692 | D:4      | Reached skill level 9 in Long Blades
  2692 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 35/57 MP: 3/3
  2869 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  2885 | D:5      | Found a sand-covered staircase.
  2894 | Ossuary  | Entered an ossuary
  2970 | Ossuary  | Reached skill level 10 in Long Blades
  2990 | Ossuary  | Reached skill level 4 in Shields
  3213 | D:5      | Noticed Blork the orc
  3223 | D:5      | Killed Blork the orc
  3223 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
  3385 | D:5      | Noticed Ijyb
  3400 | D:5      | Killed Ijyb
  3532 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 48/64 MP: 3/3
  3710 | D:6      | Reached skill level 6 in Shields
  3729 | D:6      | Reached skill level 11 in Long Blades
  3972 | D:6      | Reached skill level 7 in Shields
  4783 | D:6      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  5516 | D:7      | Reached skill level 12 in Long Blades
  5516 | D:7      | Reached skill level 8 in Shields
  5516 | D:7      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 60/70 MP: 4/4
  5636 | D:7      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  6046 | D:7      | Reached skill level 9 in Shields
  6263 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  6277 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of Ru the Awakened
  6634 | D:8      | Paralysed by a yellow wasp for 1 turns
  6885 | D:8      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  6988 | D:8      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  6999 | D:8      | Reached skill level 13 in Long Blades
  7085 | D:8      | Reached skill level 10 in Shields
  7413 | D:9      | Noticed Erolcha
  7536 | D:9      | HP: 8/70 [something (19)]
  7562 | D:9      | Paralysed by Erolcha for 7 turns
  7572 | D:9      | Killed Erolcha
  7572 | D:9      | Reached skill level 11 in Shields
  7572 | D:9      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 26/77 MP: 4/4
  7740 | D:9      | Gained mutation: You cannot study or cast Summoning magic. [Ru sacrifice]
  7740 | D:9      | Gained mutation: You cannot study or cast Hexes magic. [Ru sacrifice]
  7740 | D:9      | Gained mutation: You cannot study or cast Air magic. [Ru sacrifice]
  7740 | D:9      | Acquired Ru's first power
  7842 | D:9      | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
  7881 | D:9      | HP: 8/77 [something (6)]
  8225 | D:9      | HP: 9/77 [something (5)]
  8231 | D:9      | HP: 11/77 [something (3)]
  8232 | D:9      | Killed an unseen horror
  8232 | D:9      | Reached skill level 14 in Long Blades
  8440 | D:9      | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
  8448 | D:9      | Noticed a hill giant
  8460 | D:9      | Killed a hill giant
  8723 | D:9      | Reached skill level 12 in Shields
  8864 | D:9      | Noticed Eustachio
  8911 | D:9      | Killed Eustachio
  9866 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
  9866 | D:10     | Noticed Harold
  9876 | D:10     | Killed Harold
  9876 | D:10     | Reached skill level 4 in Fighting
  9876 | D:10     | Reached skill level 4 in Armour
 10097 | D:10     | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
 10097 | D:10     | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
 10097 | D:10     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 73/86 MP: 4/4
 10138 | D:10     | Gained mutation: You are weak. (Str -2) [Ru sacrifice]
 10138 | D:10     | Acquired Ru's second power
 10240 | D:10     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 10312 | D:10     | Noticed a hill giant
 10439 | D:10     | Killed a hill giant
 10439 | D:10     | Reached skill level 6 in Fighting
 10439 | D:10     | Reached skill level 6 in Armour
 10439 | D:10     | Reached skill level 13 in Shields
 10609 | D:10     | Noticed Floodkiller's ghost (powerful TrMo)
 10625 | D:10     | HP: 8/89 [Floodkiller's ghost (26)]
 10639 | D:10     | Noticed a five-headed hydra
 11086 | D:9      | Killed a one-headed hydra
 11271 | D:10     | HP: 2/91 [Floodkiller's ghost (21)]
 11795 | D:10     | Killed Floodkiller's ghost
 11941 | D:10     | Reached skill level 7 in Fighting
 11941 | D:10     | Reached skill level 7 in Armour
 12145 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 12621 | Lair:1   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 12630 | Lair:1   | Killed a hydra
 12668 | Lair:1   | Got a smoking demon blade
 12669 | Lair:1   | Identified the +0 demon blade of Aggunev {pain, rF+} (You found it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts)
 12675 | Lair:1   | Learned a level 4 spell: Control Undead
 12757 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 1 in Necromancy
 13603 | Lair:2   | Gained mutation: You cannot read scrolls while threatened. [Ru sacrifice]
 13603 | Lair:2   | Acquired Ru's third power
 13615 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 14 in Shields
 13624 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 2 in Necromancy
 13628 | Lair:2   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 76/101 MP: 5/5
 13838 | Lair:2   | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
 14066 | Lair:2   | Learned a level 2 spell: Stoneskin
 14218 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 3 in Necromancy
 14773 | Lair:3   | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
 14803 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 4 in Necromancy
 15058 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 15 in Shields
 15083 | Lair:3   | Gained mutation: You have lost your grip on sanity. [Ru sacrifice]
 15083 | Lair:3   | Acquired Ru's fourth power
 15187 | Lair:3   | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
 15327 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 5 in Necromancy
 15425 | Lair:3   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 15662 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 6 in Necromancy
 15756 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 8 in Fighting
 15770 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 8 in Armour
 16062 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 9 in Fighting
 16089 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 9 in Armour
 16358 | Lair:3   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 80/111 MP: 5/5
 16613 | Lair:3   | HP: 8/113 [oklob plant/splash of acid (14)]
 16620 | Lair:3   | HP: 7/113 [poisoned by a redback]
 16627 | Lair:3   | HP: 7/113 [poisoned by a redback]
 16635 | Lair:3   | HP: 7/113 [poisoned by a redback]
 17119 | Lair:4   | Noticed a seven-headed hydra
 17126 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 17136 | Lair:4   | Killed a two-headed hydra
 17136 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
 17511 | Lair:4   | Gained mutation: You are clumsy. (Dex -2) [Ru sacrifice]
 18644 | Lair:5   | Gained mutation: You cannot be stealthy. [Ru sacrifice]
 18644 | Lair:5   | Acquired Ru's fifth power
 18859 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 11 in Fighting
 18859 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 11 in Armour
 19684 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 20266 | Lair:7   | Reached skill level 12 in Armour
 20310 | Lair:7   | Learned a level 6 spell: Haste
 20338 | Lair:7   | Reached skill level 1 in Dodging
 20357 | Lair:7   | Gained mutation: You are hated by all. [Ru sacrifice]
 20367 | Lair:7   | Noticed Maud
 20388 | Lair:7   | Killed Maud
 20388 | Lair:7   | Reached skill level 3 in Dodging
 20426 | Lair:7   | Reached skill level 4 in Dodging
 20606 | Lair:7   | Identified a +0 fire dragon armour (You found it on level 7 of the Lair of Beasts)
 20646 | Lair:7   | Noticed Fannar
 20663 | Lair:7   | Killed Fannar
 20663 | Lair:7   | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 20759 | Lair:7   | Noticed Rupert
 20783 | Lair:7   | Killed Rupert
 20783 | Lair:7   | Reached skill level 6 in Dodging
 21023 | Lair:7   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 96/125 MP: 5/5
 21083 | Lair:7   | Reached skill level 7 in Dodging
 21302 | Lair:7   | Reached skill level 8 in Dodging
 21889 | Lair:7   | Reached skill level 9 in Dodging
 22237 | Lair:8   | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
 22433 | Lair:7   | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 23114 | Lair:8   | Identified a wand of heal wounds {zapped: 1} (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)
 23143 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 11 in Dodging
 23177 | Lair:8   | HP: 17/125 [boring beetle (23)]
 23871 | Lair:8   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 23999 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 12 in Dodging
 24021 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 12 in Fighting
 24762 | Lair:8   | Identified a wand of teleportation {zapped: 1} (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)
 24783 | Lair:8   | Learned a level 5 spell: Dispel Undead
 24785 | Lair:8   | Got a transparent buckler
 24794 | Lair:8   | Identified the +1 buckler of Equg {Str+1 Int-2} (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)
 25369 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines

Vanquished Creatures
  Rupert (Lair:7)
  Maud (Lair:7)
  Fannar (Lair:7)
  Harold (D:10)
  The ghost of Floodkiller the Grappler, a powerful TrMo of Ru (D:10)
  9 hydras
  10 death yaks
  Erolcha (D:9)
  An unseen horror (D:9)
  2 hill giants
  3 manticores (Lair:7)
  A griffon (Lair:7)
  A torpor snail (Lair:8)
  4 elephants (Lair:2)
  A queen ant (Lair:2)
  25 spiny frogs
  3 black mambas
  A gargoyle (D:10)
  10 komodo dragons
  A centaur zombie (D:10)
  A spriggan druid (Lair:8)
  A two-headed ogre (D:8)
  5 polar bears
  3 fire drakes
  A troll (D:9)
  3 giant leeches (Lair:8)
  14 blink frogs
  3 jumping spiders
  A griffon zombie (D:10)
  49 yaks
  5 redbacks
  4 basilisks
  9 wyverns
  A steam dragon (Lair:7)
  A wraith (D:10)
  Eustachio (D:9)
  A hill giant zombie (D:9)
  13 hippogriffs
  A hill giant skeleton (D:10)
  10 vampire mosquitoes
  2 hungry ghosts
  15 wolves
  5 soldier ants (Lair:2)
  Menkaure (D:4)
  A hell hound (Lair:7)
  11 porcupines
  A spider (Lair:3)
  4 phantoms
  7 water moccasins
  3 ice beasts
  2 black bears (D:7)
  3 orc warriors
  A sky beast (D:10)
  A yellow wasp (D:8)
  6 ogres
  4 centaurs
  2 boring beetles
  A big kobold (D:7)
  21 giant frogs
  15 crocodiles
  Blork the orc (D:5)
  2 gnoll sergeants (D:10)
  2 scorpions
  2 water moccasin zombies (Ossuary)
  A troll zombie (D:9)
  2 eyes of draining (D:7)
  8 killer bees
  A troll skeleton (D:7)
  4 crimson imps
  5 electric eels
  A hippogriff skeleton (D:10)
  13 hounds
  A jelly (D:7)
  2 quasits
  7 orc priests
  A centaur skeleton (D:3)
  8 iguanas
  3 orc wizards (D:8)
  28 worker ants
  5 big kobold zombies (Ossuary)
  6 ogre zombies (D:9)
  21 sheep
  Ijyb (D:5)
  Jessica (D:2)
  A hound skeleton (D:7)
  2 mummies (Ossuary)
  11 gnolls
  23 adders
  3 shadow imps
  A giant mite (D:9)
  81 green rats
  5 worms
  An adder skeleton (D:9)
  6 adder zombies (Ossuary)
  3 giant geckos
  23 orcs
  A ball python (D:7)
  3 giant cockroaches
  18 goblins
  20 hobgoblins
  15 jackals
  14 kobolds
  15 quokkas
  17 bats
  A giant gecko zombie (D:7)
  5 giant newts
  A giant spore (D:10)
  7 gnoll zombies
  5 goblin skeletons (D:9)
  2 goblin zombies (D:9)
  A hobgoblin skeleton (D:9)
  5 hobgoblin zombies (Ossuary)
  A jackal skeleton (D:5)
  2 kobold skeletons (D:8)
  2 kobold zombies (Ossuary)
  3 orc skeletons
  22 orc zombies
  15 rats
  A rat skeleton (D:3)
  A rat zombie (D:8)
  2 ballistomycetes (D:9)
776 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A hydra (Lair:7)
  A sheep (Lair:8)
  A shadow imp (D:9)
  A giant spore (D:9)
  14 fungi
  6 plants
24 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 800 creatures vanquished

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Post Wednesday, 16th July 2014, 10:46

Re: Proposal: Iashol, God of balance and sacrifice

playing a DrMo of Iashol, he offered me to sacrifice armor skill 5 times, and I accepted all of them. I'm not sure if I got the piety tho.
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Post Wednesday, 16th July 2014, 13:23

Re: Proposal: Iashol, God of balance and sacrifice

tasonir wrote:Is saccing love supposed to be that loud?

Wow, that's a new one to me. Was there anything in LOS when you initially made the sacrifice? One aspect of the sacrifice is setting a delayed action that makes previously-generated monsters hostile, and maybe that has a side-effect of also waking up those monsters?

tasonir wrote:This is the * aura, correct? Works well against hydras

Haha, yeah. Most of the time it makes monsters that try to attack you just stop, but sometimes it also makes them attack their friends or themselves. That's the most spectacular example of it I've seen so far. :D

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Post Wednesday, 16th July 2014, 13:24

Re: Proposal: Iashol, God of balance and sacrifice

Hirsch I wrote:playing a DrMo of Iashol, he offered me to sacrifice armor skill 5 times, and I accepted all of them. I'm not sure if I got the piety tho.

Yeah, that's a known bug. A patch for that is already available, but hasn't been loaded onto the experimental server yet. Thanks for reporting!

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Post Wednesday, 16th July 2014, 19:14

Re: Proposal: Iashol, God of balance and sacrifice

Lasty wrote:
tasonir wrote:Is saccing love supposed to be that loud?

Wow, that's a new one to me. Was there anything in LOS when you initially made the sacrifice? One aspect of the sacrifice is setting a delayed action that makes previously-generated monsters hostile, and maybe that has a side-effect of also waking up those monsters?

There wasn't anything in LOS that I recall, and I hadn't been using any summons before this either.

The new sac sanity seems to be much easier to understand, although I have trouble figuring out how strong it should be. I mean, fighting shouldn't be impossible with it, you can't avoid it. The effect seems small, but nothing at this point is going to stand up to a demon blade of pain even though it's +0 and I have (let's just estimate) a -5 slaying penalty or so. Is there a guideline about how much damage it should take off? Like, yellow is intended to be -10% damage, red should be -20%? Probably going to need a lot more games to get a better feel for it in any case. I have been using gargoyles for my "easy" runs lately, but this run reminded me why minotaurs have usually had that role. They just slaughter everything.

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Post Wednesday, 16th July 2014, 22:51

Re: Proposal: Iashol, God of balance and sacrifice

Lasty wrote:That's the most spectacular example of it I've seen so far. :D

From Haifisch's game on CSZO:
  Code:
 Rupert screams, "You annihilated all those lovely monsters, you murderer!!!"
 You redirect Rupert's attack!!! Rupert suddenly stops moving!!!

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Post Thursday, 17th July 2014, 06:20

Re: Proposal: Iashol, God of balance and sacrifice

How about a third interesting redirect example? This one is probably a bug:
  Code:
 You hit something but do no damage. Your headbutt misses something.
_You redirect the unseen horror's attack!
 You hit something but do no damage. Your headbutt misses something.


Information leakage :)

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Post Thursday, 17th July 2014, 23:53

Re: Proposal: Iashol, God of balance and sacrifice

When did Iashol get renamed to Ru?

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Post Friday, 18th July 2014, 00:11

Re: Proposal: Iashol, God of balance and sacrifice

patheticliltramp wrote:When did Iashol get renamed to Ru?

When people started picking up on the fact that it prounces like 'I, asshole'

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Post Friday, 18th July 2014, 13:43

Re: Proposal: Iashol, God of balance and sacrifice

There was a whole thread about renaming it, and Ru got the most votes.

Sidenote: the spamminess and antenna-like nature of the current Sacrifice Horror were fixed last Sunday, but the patch hasn't been added to the experimental server yet.

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Post Friday, 18th July 2014, 16:03

Re: Proposal: Iashol, God of balance and sacrifice

HilariousDeathArtist wrote:
Lasty wrote:That's the most spectacular example of it I've seen so far. :D

From Haifisch's game on CSZO:
  Code:
 Rupert screams, "You annihilated all those lovely monsters, you murderer!!!"
 You redirect Rupert's attack!!! Rupert suddenly stops moving!!!

Also from Haifisch's game:
  Code:
You redirect the 27-headed Lernaean hydra's attack!!!
The 27-headed Lernaean hydra bites itself!
The 27-headed Lernaean hydra bites itself!!!
The 27-headed Lernaean hydra bites itself!
The 27-headed Lernaean hydra bites itself!!! x4
The 27-headed Lernaean hydra bites itself! x3
The 27-headed Lernaean hydra bites itself!!! x3
The 27-headed Lernaean hydra bites itself!
The 27-headed Lernaean hydra bites itself!!!!!!
The 27-headed Lernaean hydra completely misses itself!
The 27-headed Lernaean hydra bites itself!!!
The 27-headed Lernaean hydra bites itself! x2
The 27-headed Lernaean hydra dies!!!

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Post Friday, 18th July 2014, 18:22

Re: Proposal: Iashol, God of balance and sacrifice

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15-a0-2079-g5f9ff78 (webtiles) character file.

tasonir the Impregnable (Minotaur Fighter)         Turns: 66427, Time: 04:43:30

HP 213/213       AC 35     Str 21      XL: 22   Next: 50%
MP  22/22        EV 23     Int  7      God: Ru [******]
Gold 4719        SH 15     Dex 16      Spells:  6 memorised,  7 levels left

rFire  + + .     SeeInvis .     B - +10 sword of Jihad {holy, *Rage rN+ EV+3 Stlth-}
rCold  . . .     Rnd*Rage +     j - +6 fire dragon armour {rF++, rC-}
rNeg   + . .     rCorr    +     d - +0 shield
rPois  .         rRot     .     W - +2 hat
rElec  .         Spirit   .     S - +2 cloak
SustAb .         Warding  .     l - +0 pair of gloves
rMut   .         Stasis   .     p - +2 pair of boots (curse)
Gourm  .                        U - amulet of resist corrosion {rCorr, !d}
MR     ++...                    D - cursed ring of protection from cold {rC+, !d}
                                J - ring of protection from magic {MR+, !d}

@: drained, very resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: retaliatory headbutt, horns 2, slimy green scales 1, clever 1, clumsy 1, low
mp 1, slow healing 2, weak 1, cannot drink while threatened, cannot read while
threatened, no stealth, inspire hatred in others, insane, cannot use Air magic,
cannot use Hexes magic, cannot use Summoning magic, disrupted magic 1
a: Draw Out Power, Power Leap, Cataclysm, Renounce Religion
}: 2/15 runes: decaying, gossamer


You are on level 13 of the Dungeon.
You worship Ru.
Ru is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 8 branches of the dungeon, and seen 45 of its levels.
You have also visited: Labyrinth, Ossuary, Ice Cave, Volcano and Wizlab.

You have collected 6325 gold pieces.
You have spent 1606 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 b - a cursed +1 scimitar of flaming
   (You took it off Erica on level 12 of the Dungeon)
 B - the +10 sword of Jihad (weapon) {holy, *Rage rN+ EV+3 Stlth-}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   It has been blessed by the Shining One to cause great damage to the undead
   and demons.
   
   It affects your evasion (+3).
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It may make you go berserk in combat.
   It makes you less stealthy.
Armour
 d - a +0 shield (worn)
   (You took it off Wiglaf on level 3 of the Spider Nest)
 j - a +6 fire dragon armour (worn) {rF++, rC-}
   (You found it on level 7 of the Lair of Beasts)
 l - a +0 pair of gloves (worn)
   (You found it on level 1 of the Dungeon)
 p - a cursed +2 pair of boots (worn)
   (You found it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts)
 z - a cursed +2 large shield
   (You took it off an ironheart preserver on level 4 of the Vaults)
 S - a +2 cloak (worn)
   (You found it in a labyrinth)
 W - a +2 hat (worn)
   (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon)
Magical devices
 c - a wand of fire (2)
   (You found it on level 1 of the Crypt)
 w - a wand of disintegration (11)
   (You found it on level 13 of the Dungeon)
 G - a wand of teleportation (4)
   (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)
 O - a wand of heal wounds (4)
   (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)
 V - a wand of invisibility (5)
   (You found it on level 10 of the Dungeon)
Comestibles
 h - 9 beef jerkies
 i - 120 fruits
 n - 18 meat rations {@e2}
Scrolls
 f - 17 scrolls of remove curse
 g - 5 scrolls of fear
 m - 3 scrolls of holy word {!r}
 t - 7 scrolls of teleportation
 y - 5 scrolls of enchant weapon
 A - 3 scrolls of blinking {!r}
 C - 3 scrolls of recharging
 I - a scroll of silence
 N - a scroll of magic mapping {!r}
 P - 5 scrolls of fog
 R - 2 scrolls of vulnerability {!r}
 Y - 4 scrolls of identify
Jewellery
 a - the ring of Buuhoa {EV+2 Str+2 Dex+3}
   (You found it on level 4 of the Vaults)   
   
   [ring of evasion]
   
   It affects your evasion (+2).
   It affects your strength (+2).
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
 o - a +6 ring of protection
   (You found it on level 2 of the Vaults)
 r - a cursed ring of protection from fire {rF+, !d}
   (You found it on level 4 of the Vaults)
 s - an uncursed ring of see invisible {sInv, !d}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Vaults)
 D - a cursed ring of protection from cold (right hand) {rC+, !d}
   (You acquired it on level 1 of the Spider Nest)
 J - a ring of protection from magic (left hand) {MR+, !d}
   (You found it on level 5 of the Spider Nest)
 U - an amulet of resist corrosion (around neck) {rCorr, !d}
   (You found it on level 2 of the Crypt)
Potions
 e - 12 potions of might
 k - 6 potions of agility
 q - 5 potions of flight
 u - 11 potions of curing
 v - 5 potions of magic
 x - 9 potions of restore abilities
 E - 4 potions of haste
 K - 2 potions of resistance
 L - a potion of cure mutation
 Q - 10 potions of heal wounds
 T - a potion of berserk rage {!q}
 X - 5 potions of invisibility
 Z - a potion of cancellation


   Skills:
 - Level 21.5 Fighting
 - Level 16.4 Long Blades
   Level 5.3 Crossbows
 - Level 21.6(21.5) Armour
 - Level 17.2(17.1) Dodging
 + Level 17.7(17.6) Shields
 - Level 4.5(4.4) Spellcasting
 - Level 7.0 Charms
 - Level 10.5(10.4) Necromancy


You have 7 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Regeneration          Chrm/Necr      ##........   6%          3    ####...
b - Stoneskin             Trmt/Erth      #.........   69%         2    ###....
c - Dispel Undead         Necr           ###.....     21%         5    ######.
d - Blink                 Tloc           N/A          69%         2    ###....
r - Haste                 Chrm           ##......     100%        6    #######
S - Phase Shift           Tloc           #.........   100%        5    ######.


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (1/1) D:6             Orc (4/4) D:9
    Elf (0/3) Orc:3          Lair (8/8) D:10          Swamp (5/5) Lair:6
 Spider (5/5) Lair:3        Slime (0/6) Lair:8       Vaults (4/5) D:13
  Crypt (3/3) Vaults:3       Tomb (0/3) Crypt:3      Depths (0/5) D:15

Altars:
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One

Shops:
Orc:2 (   Orc:4 ?(?(   Vaults:1 [   Vaults:2 %   Vaults:4 *

Portals:
Trove: Vaults:3 (give +5 fire dragon armour)

Annotations:
D:11 bolt stash
Lair:3 exclusion: oklob plant
Spider:4 Mara
Crypt:1 exclusion: curse skull


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You reflexively headbutt those who attack you in melee.
You have a pair of horns on your head.
You are clumsy. (Dex -2)
Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP).
You do not heal naturally when monsters are visible.
You are weak. (Str -2)
You cannot drink potions while threatened.
You cannot read scrolls while threatened.
You cannot be stealthy.
You are hated by all.
You have lost your grip on sanity.
You cannot study or cast Air magic.
You cannot study or cast Hexes magic.
You cannot study or cast Summoning magic.
Your casting is slightly disrupted.
You are partially covered in slimy green scales (AC +2).
Your mind is acute. (Int +2)


Message History

You headbutt the eidolon, but do no damage.
The eidolon closely misses you.
You completely miss the eidolon.
You headbutt the eidolon, but do no damage.
You block the eidolon's attack. x2
You hit the eidolon. The eidolon convulses.
You destroy the eidolon!
You start resting.
You can read scrolls again.
You regained 7 hp, and now have 175/213 hp.
You start resting.
You feel yourself speed up.
You regained 8 hp, and now have 183/213 hp.
You start resting.
You feel less exhausted.
You regained 6 hp, and now have 189/213 hp.
You see here a glowing mace.
There is a stone staircase leading up here.
There is a stone staircase leading up here.
Partly explored, can't reach some places.
You regained 12 hp, and now have 208/213 hp.
(D) Dungeon        (T) Temple         (O) Orcish Mines   (E) Elven Halls   
(L) Lair           (S) Swamp          (N) Spider Nest    (M) Slime Pits     
(V) Vaults         (C) Crypt          (W) Tomb           (U) Depths         
Where to? (Enter - Crypt:3, ? - help)
What level of the Dungeon? (default 13, ? - help)
You see here a morningstar.
There is a stone staircase leading up here.
You climb upwards.
There is a stone staircase leading down here.
A freezing wraith comes into view.
Health restored: 213
The freezing wraith hits you but does no damage.
The freezing wraith barely misses you.
You hit the freezing wraith but do no damage.
You block the freezing wraith's attack. x2
You hit the freezing wraith. The freezing wraith convulses.
You headbutt the freezing wraith.
You slice the freezing wraith!! The freezing wraith convulses!
You headbutt the freezing wraith.
You destroy the freezing wraith!
No target in view!
No target in view!
(D) Dungeon        (T) Temple         (O) Orcish Mines   (E) Elven Halls   
(L) Lair           (S) Swamp          (N) Spider Nest    (M) Slime Pits     
(V) Vaults         (C) Crypt          (W) Tomb           (U) Depths         
Where to? (Enter - D:13, ? - help)
A vampire mage comes into view.
You block the vampire mage's attack. The vampire mage misses you.
You slice the vampire mage!! The vampire mage convulses!
The vampire mage is stunned by your will and fails to attack.
You slice the vampire mage!!
You destroy the vampire mage!
No target in view!
No target in view!
(D) Dungeon        (T) Temple         (O) Orcish Mines   (E) Elven Halls   
(L) Lair           (S) Swamp          (N) Spider Nest    (M) Slime Pits     
(V) Vaults         (C) Crypt          (W) Tomb           (U) Depths         
Where to? (Enter - D:13, ? - help)
There is a stone staircase leading up here.
You climb upwards.
Level annotation: exclusion: curse skull
There is a stone staircase leading down here.
There is an open gate here.
You open the gate.
There is an open gate here.
There is an open door here.
There is an open gate here.
There is a staircase back to the Vaults here.
You see here a sack of spiders.
You climb upwards. Welcome back to the Vaults!
There is a staircase to the Crypt here.
Things that are here:
a chain mail; a dire flail
There is an open door here.
Things that are here:
a robe; a runed dagger
Things that are here:
2 bolts; a dire flail; a dire flail
There is a stone staircase leading up here.
You climb upwards.
There is a stone staircase leading down here.
There is an open door here.
You see here an arrow.
There is an open door here.
There is a stone staircase leading up here.
You climb upwards.
There is a stone staircase leading down here.
There is an open door, spattered with blood here.
There is an open door here.
There is a gate leading back out of this place here.
You go up through the gate. Welcome back to the Dungeon!
There is a gate to the Vaults here.
(D) Dungeon        (T) Temple         (O) Orcish Mines   (E) Elven Halls   
(L) Lair           (S) Swamp          (N) Spider Nest    (M) Slime Pits     
(V) Vaults         (C) Crypt          (W) Tomb           (U) Depths         
Where to? (Enter - D:13, ? - help)
Okay, then.
Unknown command.
Saving game... please wait.

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There are no monsters in sight!


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 | 22-24 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Long sword        |    71 |    60 |       |       |       |       |       |       ||   131
       Falchion          |       |    80 |   514 |   644 |    52 |       |       |       ||  1290
       Demon blade       |       |       |       |   472 |  2257 |  2877 |    10 |       ||  5616
       Unarmed           |       |       |       |    15 |       |       |       |       ||    15
       Eudemon blade     |       |       |       |       |    36 |       |  2107 |   341 ||  2484
       Scimitar          |       |       |       |       |       |   145 |       |       ||   145
 Fire: Blowgun           |       |       |    12 |     6 |       |       |       |       ||    18
 Cast: Regeneration      |       |       |       |       |       |       |     7 |     3 ||    10
       Blink             |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
Invok: Sacrifice Arcana  |       |       |       |     2 |       |     3 |     1 |       ||     6
       Sacrifice Purity  |       |       |       |     1 |     1 |     2 |     1 |       ||     5
       Sacrifice Words   |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |       |       ||     1
       Sacrifice Sanity  |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |       |       ||     1
       Power Leap        |       |       |       |       |     5 |     5 |     1 |     1 ||    12
       Sacrifice Love    |       |       |       |       |     2 |       |       |       ||     2
       Sacrifice Stealth |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |       ||     1
       Sacrifice Essence |       |       |       |       |     4 |     2 |       |       ||     6
       Draw Out Power    |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |       ||     1
       Sacrifice Health  |       |       |       |       |     1 |     2 |       |       ||     3
       Sacrifice Drink   |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
       Cataclysm         |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
Evoke: Wand              |       |     4 |    11 |       |    11 |    14 |     9 |       ||    49
  Use: Scroll            |       |     1 |       |    13 |    18 |    21 |    16 |     2 ||    71
       Potion            |       |       |     5 |     9 |    10 |     8 |     4 |       ||    36
 Stab: Invisible         |       |       |       |     1 |     9 |    20 |     7 |     5 ||    42
       Distracted        |       |       |       |     1 |     2 |     7 |     6 |       ||    16
       Paralysed         |       |       |       |       |     3 |    13 |     3 |     2 ||    21
       Confused          |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
       Fleeing           |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
       Petrifying        |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
  Eat: Chunk             |       |     6 |    14 |    35 |    54 |    45 |    33 |       ||   187
       Fruit             |       |       |     1 |       |       |       |     3 |       ||     4
       Pizza             |       |       |       |     1 |       |     3 |       |       ||     4
       Royal jelly       |       |       |       |       |     1 |     1 |     4 |       ||     6
       Beef jerky        |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
       Bread ration      |       |       |       |       |       |       |     4 |       ||     4
       Meat ration       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     3 |     2 ||     5

Table legend:
 A = Turns spent in this place as a percentage of turns spent in the
     entire game.
 B = Non-inter-level travel turns spent in this place as a percentage of
     non-inter-level travel turns spent in the entire game.
 C = Inter-level travel turns spent in this place as a percentage of
     turns spent in this place.
 D = Turns resting spent in this place as a percentage of non-inter-level
     travel turns spent in this place.
 E = Turns spent auto-exploring this place as a percentage of
     non-inter-level travel turns spent in this place.
 F = Non-inter-level travel turns spent in this place divided by the
     number of levels of this place that you've seen.

                   A       B       C       D       E               F
               +-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+----------------------
         Total | 100.0 | 100.0 |   0.5 |   3.7 |   7.5 |         441.8
       Dungeon |  24.7 |  24.7 |   0.6 |   2.1 |   9.8 |         363.6
        Temple |   0.0 |   0.0 |  12.5 |   0.0 |  28.6 |           7.0
  Orcish Mines |   7.6 |   7.6 |   0.4 |   2.6 |   8.8 |         419.0
          Lair |  16.9 |  16.8 |   0.6 |   3.8 |   7.0 |         465.1
         Swamp |  11.0 |  11.0 |   0.5 |   3.6 |   5.0 |         484.4
   Spider Nest |   9.2 |   9.2 |   0.5 |   3.5 |   5.6 |         407.2
        Vaults |  16.3 |  16.3 |   0.3 |   5.6 |   7.7 |         899.2
         Crypt |   9.3 |   9.3 |   0.4 |   6.0 |   6.6 |         686.7
     Labyrinth |   1.1 |   1.1 |   0.0 |   0.0 |   0.0 |         248.0
       Ossuary |   0.9 |   0.9 |   0.0 |   0.0 |  12.5 |         200.0
      Ice Cave |   1.4 |   1.4 |   0.0 |   3.6 |   4.3 |         303.0
       Volcano |   0.2 |   0.2 |   0.0 |  17.9 |   2.6 |          39.0
        Wizlab |   1.5 |   1.5 |   0.0 |   4.6 |  11.2 |         329.0
               +-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+----------------------

Table legend:
 A = Kills in this place as a percentage of kills in entire the game.
 B = Kills by you in this place as a percentage of kills by you in
     the entire game.
 C = Kills by friends in this place as a percentage of kills by
     friends in the entire game.
 D = Other kills in this place as a percentage of other kills in the
     entire game.
 E = Experience gained in this place as a percentage of experience
     gained in the entire game.
 F = Experience gained in this place divided by the number of levels of
     this place that you have seen.

                   A       B       C       D       E               F
               +-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+----------------------
         Total | 100.0 | 100.0 |  -nan | 100.0 | 100.0 |       15498.5
       Dungeon |  23.7 |  23.8 |  -nan |  14.8 |  10.2 |        5255.4
  Orcish Mines |   9.9 |  10.0 |  -nan |   3.7 |   4.5 |        8727.8
          Lair |  18.0 |  18.2 |  -nan |   3.7 |  10.2 |        9846.6
         Swamp |   9.6 |   9.5 |  -nan |  18.5 |  10.7 |       16611.4
   Spider Nest |   8.3 |   8.1 |  -nan |  25.9 |  10.9 |       16949.0
        Vaults |  16.9 |  16.9 |  -nan |  22.2 |  29.2 |       56502.0
         Crypt |   9.2 |   9.3 |  -nan |   3.7 |  20.8 |       53749.3
     Labyrinth |   0.0 |   0.0 |  -nan |   0.0 |   0.1 |        1058.0
       Ossuary |   1.4 |   1.4 |  -nan |   0.0 |   0.0 |         374.0
      Ice Cave |   1.5 |   1.4 |  -nan |   7.4 |   1.3 |       10149.0
        Wizlab |   1.4 |   1.4 |  -nan |   0.0 |   2.0 |       15770.0
               +-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+----------------------


Advice to fellow ru players: Slow healing is a great sacrifice for a decent chunk of piety, and you can overcome it with things like the regen spell. Do NOT be a total fool and make the sacrifice twice. Even the regen spell can't help you then, you'll forever gain no health while in sight of monsters. Interestingly enough, I haven't found it that hard to deal with so far. And I've had slow healing 2 for at least the last 3-4 levels, it hasn't been that short of a time.

I also couldn't use cataclysm most of the early/mid game because with 0 spellcasting I just didn't have the mana to pay the 8mp cost! That was funny. Now that I can't regen anymore I should probably just sac charms/necromancy for 200 piety :P

As a side note, sword of Jihad is totally worth dealing with the *rage property, even if it means you have to hit 5 a bunch more.

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Post Sunday, 20th July 2014, 17:12

Re: Proposal: Ru, god of balance and sacrifice

More bugfixes. Please let me know if you have a bug that isn't on this list. These aren't on the CSZO server yet. I'll update this post when they are.

* God description shortened.
* God ability descriptions on the ^ screen are shortened.
* Improved can't-memorize message for sacrificed magic schools so it no longer says "you can't memorize this because you are <species> or <form>"
* Ru max piety is 6* even (160 piety). As a result, all piety checks and increases have been adjusted around the new scaling. A few sacrifices had their piety value increased. Also, removed piety tapering that was applied for other gods, which should reduce the number of sacrifices needed to hit max piety.
* Improved the faltering message for monsters with fake spells and priests.
* Prevented a crash on power leap failing to escape constriction.
* Cleaned up some issues with rings/sac hand.
* Made elementals from evokers be hostile under sac love, fixed a crash w/ sac love and box of beasts.
* Cleaned up some mutation descriptions to improve the quality of some messaging.
* Fixed the message upon sacrificing a hand for octopodes/felids.

Edit: And the changes are going up now! Thanks, |amethyst!

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Post Monday, 21st July 2014, 21:42

Re: Proposal: Ru, god of balance and sacrifice

Lasty wrote:* Ru max piety is 6* even (160 piety). As a result, all piety checks and increases have been adjusted around the new scaling. A few sacrifices had their piety value increased. Also, removed piety tapering that was applied for other gods, which should reduce the number of sacrifices needed to hit max piety.

This is a godsend, imho. Much appreciated, you can finally know when you're done :) I'll go ahead and finish up my current Ru game and see if I can manage to win despite slow healing 2 ;)

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Post Tuesday, 22nd July 2014, 04:16

Re: Proposal: Ru, god of balance and sacrifice

Question: Is this branch available from git? I'd love to try Ru out but CSZO is too laggy for me..

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Post Tuesday, 22nd July 2014, 05:07

Re: Proposal: Ru, god of balance and sacrifice

I played a few games on experimental with this god. It's probably my favorite of the newer gods. It's a nice god for when you don't know what god to pick.

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Post Tuesday, 22nd July 2014, 05:24

Re: Proposal: Ru, god of balance and sacrifice

Becquerel wrote:Question: Is this branch available from git? I'd love to try Ru out but CSZO is too laggy for me..

All branches are available from git. Git knows all, sees all..

More seriously, all webtiles experimental builds are built from branches that are in public git. In this case, the branch name is 'iashol'. IIRC once you have a clone of DCSS git, you can switch to the iashol branch in the usual way --
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git checkout iashol
and proceed to build as usual.

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Post Tuesday, 22nd July 2014, 05:59

Re: Proposal: Ru, god of balance and sacrifice

Rather than post it all here, I posted my write up in YAVP and will link it here: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=13129

Looks like it was the 10th Ru win.

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Post Tuesday, 22nd July 2014, 12:42

Re: Proposal: Ru, god of balance and sacrifice

10th? I wish I could get stats on the experimental branch -- 10 wins already seems like an awful lot, but I don't know how many total games were played. #nerfru

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Post Tuesday, 22nd July 2014, 12:48

Re: Proposal: Ru, god of balance and sacrifice

like I said, cataclysm is a free ability that solves any problem you could possibly find yourself into. power jump is free cblink. put a free heal on top of that, and you get yourself a pretty strong god.
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Post Tuesday, 22nd July 2014, 14:40

Re: Proposal: Ru, god of balance and sacrifice

I think that's an oversimplification -- two of the three have a cost in draining and all of them have the cost of disabling any more use of god abilities for a substantial length of time. Ely gives you healing you can spam as well as an insta-kill on most monsters, and Zin and Chei give you 'solve-any-problem' buttons that you can use with much greater impunity, given how easy it is to get piety with each. Power Leap is probably the most overtly strong of the three, but it's not as strong as even a single scroll of blinking in terms of escaping/ninja'ing.

If you look at the Ru wins posted so far (including yours!) they actually use the active abilities quite infrequently -- except for the one person who felt that Ru was underpowered.

Edit: that's not to say that Ru isn't overpowered -- I suspect it may be -- but I don't think it's as cut and dried as Hersch I suggests.

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Post Tuesday, 22nd July 2014, 17:30

Re: Proposal: Ru, god of balance and sacrifice

Agreed - as an example, I used cataclysm twice, power leap 13 times, and draw out power twice. I'd probably have used draw out power more but my run had an abundance of healing - both the regen spell before I took up slow healing 2, and a heal wounds wand with more recharging than I could use as well. But draw out power absolutely saved my life in zot:5 when I had -potion and -scroll and was heavily poisoned.

I'd say the main strength of Ru is the two auras, which are quite potent with max piety. If you wanted to nerf Ru, you could scale down the auras slightly. I don't think that's necessary right now, but if it is, that's the place.

What's the %chance of no action and %chance for a mob to hit itself if you're at max piety?

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Re: Proposal: Ru, god of balance and sacrifice

The chance for a monster to take no action instead of attacking is 10% at max piety, and the chance to attack something other than the player is 5% at max piety. Retaliation on damage is 33% chance of triggering at max piety, but there's a second check before actually applying a status that takes into account monster HD and the amount of damage done to determine what, if any, status is applied.

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Post Tuesday, 22nd July 2014, 22:18

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savageorange wrote:snip


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Post Wednesday, 23rd July 2014, 00:58

Re: Proposal: Ru, god of balance and sacrifice

You make serious sacrifices for this god. The abilities better be damn strong.

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Post Wednesday, 23rd July 2014, 02:09

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I think they are, but let me know if you disagree!

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Post Wednesday, 23rd July 2014, 06:07

Re: Proposal: Ru, god of balance and sacrifice

Don't get me wrong, I really like this god. Just when people start hinting at nerfing it I'm a bit annoyed. It's already weaker than Trog, Ely, and Sif. I disagree that a game with this god is any easier than with a different god on a decent combination. I like the sacrifice mechanic as it leads to an interesting game without feeling like you're playing a "challenge" game.

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Post Wednesday, 23rd July 2014, 08:36

Re: Proposal: Ru, god of balance and sacrifice

Ru is even letting me enjoy DD, one of my least favourite races. DDBe of Ru (at 3 runes now) has spent a lot of time being red-drained by using the healing ability, so overtrain your important skills a bit if you do this.
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Favourites: 15-rune Trog, OgNe/OgIE/OgSu (usually Ash), Ds, Ru, SpEn, Ce of Chei, Qaz

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Post Wednesday, 23rd July 2014, 18:09

Re: Proposal: Ru, god of balance and sacrifice

Why would you start out as a DDBe? You'd have to abandon Trog to pick up Ru?

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Post Thursday, 24th July 2014, 03:17

Re: Proposal: Ru, god of balance and sacrifice

hyper account. it was just as well, I wasn't finding good weapons and had to wait for 5 or 6 trog gifts just to get one on type - a dflail of protection.
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Post Sunday, 27th July 2014, 20:33

Re: Proposal: Ru, god of balance and sacrifice

I am really surprised this god has so much support

such strange mechanics
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Post Sunday, 27th July 2014, 20:36

Re: Proposal: Ru, god of balance and sacrifice

People like challenges and choices and the granted benefits are versatile enough
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Post Sunday, 27th July 2014, 20:44

Re: Proposal: Ru, god of balance and sacrifice

I'm glad it works
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Post Monday, 28th July 2014, 18:22

Re: Proposal: Ru, god of balance and sacrifice

partial wrote:I am really surprised this god has so much support

such strange mechanics

Posing the question of "would you give up X to get Y" is pretty universally interesting as long as the decision isn't obvious. The old idea I had was for sacrifice altars that ask you to give up some about of max HP for some amount of slaying, since that's hard to answer. (How much hp is +1 slaying worth?) I think, with Ru, it fits nicely into the god framework and thus doesn't require any new mechanics outside of that, and goes way further and is way more interesting than any idea I had.

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Post Tuesday, 29th July 2014, 23:22

Re: Proposal: Ru, god of balance and sacrifice

I just started a draconian monk of Ru, and got offered the chance to lose my arm on D:2. It was a bit of a jarring power jump.

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Post Wednesday, 30th July 2014, 01:48

Re: Proposal: Ru, god of balance and sacrifice

Monks are probably one of the easier builds to give up a hand on. You lose a shield, but were probably doing blade hands for absurd damage anyways. You'll only hit with your main blade now, but that still does plenty of damage. The biggest drawback is the loss of the second ring, in this case.

That said, it's a huge sacrifice and one you shouldn't make lightly. Especially that early, when you don't know if you'll find blade hands soon or not...

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Post Wednesday, 30th July 2014, 12:35

Re: Proposal: Ru, god of balance and sacrifice

On D:2 sacrificing your hand loses you little and gain you a ton. However, later in the game once you have two decent rings and wish you either had 20% more damage or a solid additional line of defense you'll feel the loss. Compare it to Fedhas, who gives you early game near-invincibility (e.g. mushrooms) if you join the god on D:2 and requires you to give up essentially nothing.

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Post Wednesday, 30th July 2014, 19:40

Re: Proposal: Ru, god of balance and sacrifice

Case of Bart the Devastator (Deep Elf Fire Elementalist)
I managed to get out of dungeon alive with 3 runes under Ru worship. Although the game wasn't excessively difficult, in current implementation Ru seemed to be a challenge god. I sacrificed:
- health -> You are frail (-10% HP).
- drinking -> You cannot drink potions while threatened.
- artifice -> You cannot study or use magical devices.
- love -> You are hated by all.
- durability -> You cannot train your Armour skill.
- health -> You take slightly more damage. (-3 AC)
Lack of access to any wands mficade mid-game signiantly more difficult and was a bit limiting in late game. I was surprised that this sacrifice is relatively "cheap" in terms of piety gain. My defenses and HP sucked - even more than I like it on my deep elves. Thirstiness was problematic - no curing can kill. Love and armour did not have big impact on gameplay. I do not think I could make less crippling sacrifices - two ring slots and full spellcasting possibilities were a must have for me. Sanity seemed a gross sacrifice. I saw also person who got deterioration 2 from purity - thank you, no.

Enough about self-mutilation, few lines about benefits. Mana/health potion was good, although didn't surpass what a normal potion could do. Leap was useful to escape from overly difficult combats. Cataclysm was great in lair - I didn't try it later. Passive bonuses were helpful, although didn't delight due to unreliability. It was funny when enemies hit themselves, but it didn't make me more confident about my strength.

Conclusion
Ru is a fresh breeze in musty Crawl dungeons, but seems imbalanced. For me, downsides were greater than benefits and I would be safer if I remained godless. This isn't necessarily a drawback, but I suspect that people might choose Ru for challenge only. Things worth attention:
1) Powers are somewhat unreliable. Passive abilities happen to not trigger when they are most needed. Cataclysm applies random statuses and leaves with heavy draining, so it's risky at the start of combat and expensive as finisher.
2) Active abilities feel somewhat weak. I know that drinking potion of heal wounds and magic takes two turns, but rarely both are needed at the same time. I would highly appreciate if recharge also cured status problems - especially when -noPotion triggers. Was it considered to add random debuffs to the effect of leap? I think it could come at the price of draining - it seemed strange that this ability is free to use.
3) Sacrificing system is not clear. I do not want to have plain numbers for piety gain, but at least grading 'small/medium/high/very high' would be welcome. Also, without reading this forum, I could not determine what sacrificing sanity does (and so I did not take it).
4) Minor annoyance: after sacrificing artifice, access to TRJ vault is limited to high level earth spells / ctele (bear in mind that player is limited to scrolls for teleportation). Also one has to rely on flight spell or potions to get over lava.

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.15-a0-2095-ged04b93 (webtiles) character file.

Bart the Devastator (Deep Elf Fire Elementalist)   Turns: 76073, Time: 08:05:53

HP 146/149       AC 11     Str  5      XL: 27
MP  41/50        EV 28     Int 38      God: Ru [******]
Gold 4651        SH  9     Dex 19      Spells: 13 memorised, 22 levels left

rFire  + + .     SeeInvis +     a - +5 trident of Rokhati {flame, rN+ SInv Stlth++}
rCold  + + +     Clarity  +     A - +2 robe {rC+ rF+}
rNeg   + . .     rCorr    .     H - +3 buckler {rC+}
rPois  .         rRot     .     C - +2 hat {rC+}
rElec  +         Spirit   .     V - +0 cloak of the Heron {Dex+4 Int+4}
SustAb .         Warding  .     M - +2 pair of gloves
rMut   .         Stasis   .     U - +2 pair of boots {Stlth+}
Gourm  .                        w - amulet of clarity
MR     ++...                    t - ring of fire
                                T - ring of the Tempest {+Rage rElec rC+ SInv}

@: exhausted, very slightly contaminated, repel missiles, very resistant to
hostile enchantments, unstealthy
A: molten scales 1, blink 2, frail 1, regeneration 1, spit poison 1, inability
to drink while threatened, inability to use devices, hated by all, inability to
train armour, vulnerability to harm 1
a: Spit Poison, Blink, Draw Out Power, Power Leap, Cataclysm, Renounce Religion
0: Orb of Zot
}: 3/15 runes: decaying, serpentine, slimy


You are on level 1 of the Dungeon.
You worship Ru.
Ru is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 12 branches of the dungeon, and seen 64 of its levels.
You have visited 1 bazaar.
You have also visited: Sewer, Ice Cave and Wizlab.

You have collected 8286 gold pieces.
You have spent 3635 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 a - the +5 trident of Rokhati (weapon) {flame, rN+ SInv Stlth++}
   (You found it on level 1 of the Snake Pit)   
   
   It emits flame when wielded, causing extra injury to most foes and up to
   double damage against particularly susceptible opponents.
   
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It enhances your eyesight.
   It makes you much more stealthy.
 b - the +8 whip of Action {slash, +Rage rF+}
   (You found it on level 4 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   It inflicts extra damage upon your enemies.
   
   It protects you from fire.
   It lets you go berserk.
 o - the +8 trident of Might {elec, rC+ Dex+2}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Swamp)   
   
   Occasionally, upon striking a foe, it will discharge some electrical energy
   and cause terrible harm.
   
   It affects your dexterity (+2).
   It protects you from cold.
Missiles
 E - 6 throwing nets (quivered)
Armour
 i - a +2 robe of magic resistance
 A - a +2 robe of resistance (worn)
 B - the +4 dragonskin cloak
   (You took it off Tiamat on level 1 of the Realm of Zot)
 C - a +2 hat of cold resistance (worn)
 H - a +3 buckler of cold resistance (worn)
 M - a +2 pair of gloves (worn)
 U - a +2 pair of boots of stealth (worn)
 V - the +0 cloak of the Heron (worn) {Dex+4 Int+4}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Depths)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (+4).
   It affects your dexterity (+4).
Comestibles
 c - 30 bread rations
 g - 29 meat rations
Scrolls
 q - 5 scrolls of holy word
 r - 5 scrolls of magic mapping
 v - 32 scrolls of identify
 y - 5 scrolls of fog
 F - 3 scrolls of enchant armour
 I - 4 scrolls of blinking
 K - 16 scrolls of teleportation
 L - 9 scrolls of fear
 R - 4 scrolls of amnesia
 Y - 16 scrolls of remove curse
Jewellery
 h - an uncursed ring of see invisible
 p - an uncursed ring of sustain abilities
 t - a ring of fire (right hand)
 w - an amulet of clarity (around neck)
 D - a +5 ring of intelligence
 N - an uncursed amulet of resist mutation
 O - the ring of Idealism {rPois Int+2}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   [ring of poison resistance]
   
   It affects your intelligence (+2).
   It protects you from poison.
 Q - an uncursed ring of protection from magic
 T - the ring of the Tempest (left hand) {+Rage rElec rC+ SInv}
   (You took it off a deep elf death mage on level 3 of the Elven Halls)   
   
   [ring of see invisible]
   
   It protects you from cold.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It enhances your eyesight.
   It lets you go berserk.
Potions
 d - 3 potions of magic
 e - 4 potions of agility
 f - 10 potions of heal wounds
 j - 2 potions of flight
 l - 12 potions of brilliance
 m - 11 potions of curing
 n - 4 potions of haste
 s - 9 potions of restore abilities
 z - 7 potions of invisibility
 G - 3 potions of cancellation
 P - a potion of resistance
Books
 u - a book of Annihilations   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   *Poison Arrow                      Conjuration/Poison           6
   Chain Lightning                    Conjuration/Air              8
   *Lehudib's Crystal Spear           Conjuration/Earth            8
   Glaciate                           Conjuration/Ice              9
   *Fire Storm                        Conjuration/Fire             9
 x - a book of the Warp   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   *Control Teleport                  Charms/Translocation         4
   Phase Shift                        Translocation                5
   Warp Weapon                        Charms/Translocation         5
   Dispersal                          Translocation                6
   Controlled Blink                   Translocation                7
   Disjunction                        Translocation                8
 W - a book of the Earth   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Leda's Liquefaction                Hexes/Earth                  4
   Bolt of Magma                      Conjuration/Fire/Earth       5
   Statue Form                        Transmutation/Earth          6
   Iron Shot                          Conjuration/Earth            6
   Shatter                            Earth                        9
 X - a book of Geomancy   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Sandblast                          Earth                        1
   Stoneskin                          Transmutation/Earth          2
   Passwall                           Transmutation/Earth          3
   Stone Arrow                        Conjuration/Earth            3
   Petrify                            Transmutation/Earth          4
   *Lee's Rapid Deconstruction        Earth                        5
Magical staves
 S - a staff of wizardry


   Skills:
 + Level 15.3 Fighting
 + Level 18.5 Dodging
 - Level 2.4 Stealth
 - Level 5.0 Shields
 - Level 26.0 Spellcasting
 * Level 26.8 Conjurations
 - Level 10.2 Charms
 - Level 9.4 Necromancy
 - Level 4.9 Translocations
   Level 6.0 Transmutations
 - Level 21.0 Fire Magic
 - Level 15.1 Earth Magic
 - Level 7.1 Poison Magic


You have 22 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Flame Tongue          Conj/Fire      #####        0%          1    None
b - Conjure Flame         Conj/Fire      ########     0%          3    None
c - Sticky Flame          Conj/Fire      ########     0%          4    None
d - Fireball              Conj/Fire      ########..   0%          5    None
e - Sublimation of Blood  Necr           #######...   0%          2    None
f - Fire Storm            Conj/Fire      ########..   4%          9    #......
g - Poison Arrow          Conj/Pois      ########..   1%          6    None
h - Lehudib's Crystal Sp  Conj/Erth      ########..   1%          8    None
i - Repel Missiles        Chrm/Air       ######       1%          2    None
j - Control Teleport      Chrm/Tloc      #######...   1%          4    None
k - Lee's Rapid Deconstr  Erth           ########..   1%          5    None
A - Apportation           Tloc           ######....   1%          1    None
H - Haste                 Chrm           #######.     1%          6    None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (1/1) D:4             Orc (4/4) D:11
    Elf (3/3) Orc:3          Lair (8/8) D:11          Swamp (5/5) Lair:6
  Snake (5/5) Lair:3        Slime (6/6) Lair:6       Vaults (4/5) D:14
  Crypt (3/3) Vaults:3       Tomb (0/3) Crypt:3         Zot (5/5) Depths:5
 Depths (5/5) D:15       

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh
Jiyva

Shops:
D:10 [   D:12 (   D:13 (   D:15 :   Orc:1 [   Orc:3 *   Orc:4 [*=!=
Elf:2 (   Vaults:1 (   Vaults:4 =

Portals:
Hell: Depths:1 Depths:2 Depths:3 Depths:4 Depths:5
Abyss: Depths:4 Depths:5
Pandemonium: Depths:3
Ziggurat: Depths:4
Trove: D:14 (give +5 fire dragon armour)

Annotations:
Crypt:1 exclusion: curse skull
Crypt:2 Frederick


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are frail (-10% HP).
You cannot drink potions while threatened.
You cannot study or use magical devices.
You are hated by all.
You cannot train your Armour skill.
You take slightly more damage. (-3 AC)
You are partially covered in molten scales (AC +1).
You are good at translocating small distances at will.
Your natural rate of healing is unusually fast.
You can spit poison.


Message History

a dagger; a goblin corpse
A hobgoblin comes into view.
A rat comes into view.
You feel less exhausted.
You block the hobgoblin's attack.
The rat misses you.
A quasit comes into view.
The hobgoblin completely misses you.
You see here a stone.
There is a staircase leading out of the dungeon here.
The rat closely misses you.
Use which ability? (? or * to list)
Leap to where?
Press: ? - help, Dir - move target cursor, f - you
Okay, then.
Use which ability? (? or * to list)
Leap to where?
Press: ? - help, Dir - move target cursor
You kill the rat! You kill the hobgoblin!
There is a staircase leading out of the dungeon here.

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You can see a quasit and a white imp.

Vanquished Creatures
  the royal jelly (Slime:6)
  3 orbs of fire (Zot:5)
  Tiamat (Zot:1)
  5 ancient liches
  Boris (Depths:4)
  A curse toe (Zot:1)
  Sojobo (Depths:4)
  the Lernaean hydra (Swamp:5)
  2 Killer Klowns (Zot:5)
  Mara (Depths:4)
  9 golden dragons
  2 bone dragons
  A profane servitor (Crypt:3)
  the Enchantress (Depths:2)
  Nikola (Snake:2)
  2 electric golems (Zot:5)
  24 tentacled monstrosities
  A pandemonium lord (Zot:1)
  17 Orb Guardians (Zot:5)
  An Ice Fiend (Zot:4)
  3 titans
  2 Shadow Fiends
  26 acid blobs
  4 sphinxes (Depths:4)
  An Executioner (Depths:1)
  An octopode crusher (Depths:2)
  11 storm dragons
  3 liches
  3 shadow dragons
  A thorn hunter (Swamp:5)
  5 ancient champions
  4 tengu reavers
  10 azure jellies
  2 revenants
  5 draconian monks
  10 vault wardens
  7 greater nagas (Snake:5)
  11 fire giants
  7 draconian scorchers
  A ghost moth (Zot:5)
  7 draconian knights
  An iron dragon (Depths:4)
  5 frost giants
  5 emperor scorpions
  7 deep elf sorcerers
  Aizul (Elf:1)
  4 draconian zealots
  7 ghouls
  5 spriggan defenders
  3 reapers
  8 draconian annihilators
  Jorgrun (Snake:3)
  5 deep elf demonologists
  14 stone giants
  5 draconian callers
  A stone giant (shapeshifter) (Depths:2)
  12 draconian shifters
  A curse skull (Crypt:3)
  11 grey draconians
  13 green draconians
  A lorocyproca (WizLab)
  5 vampire knights
  2 dire elephants
  6 yellow draconians
  16 deep elf annihilators
  9 black draconians
  7 red draconians
  11 white draconians
  10 pale draconians
  18 mottled draconians
  11 purple draconians
  An unborn (Crypt:3)
  An eidolon (Crypt:3)
  11 ettins
  A crystal guardian (Vaults:3)
  3 death oozes (Slime:6)
  A merfolk impaler (Depths:2)
  7 deep elf death magi
  27 fire dragons
  The ghost of crauler the Grappler, a powerful TrMo of Ru (D:11)
  11 yaktaur captains
  8 death cobs
  4 deep elf high priests
  Josephine (D:13)
  3 minotaurs
  3 vault guards (Vaults:1)
  8 spriggan air magi
  8 ironheart preservers
  A blizzard demon (WizLab)
  Fannar (D:10)
  27 hydras
  12 great orbs of eyes
  5 rakshasas
  23 ice dragons
  17 jiangshi
  13 naga warriors
  Nessos (Elf:2)
  2 shambling mangroves
  4 anacondas
  11 alligators
  2 dancing weapons (D:14)
  5 death knights
  2 ghost crabs (Crypt:1)
  4 vampire magi
  13 death yaks
  6 deep troll earth magi
  2 tengu warriors
  4 shock serpents
  12 naga sharpshooters
  7 very ugly things
  8 ogre magi
  8 deep troll shamans
  3 orc high priests (Orc:4)
  9 spriggan berserkers
  11 centaur warriors
  A soul eater (WizLab)
  Nergalle (D:13)
  2 hell knights (Crypt:3)
  A titan skeleton (Crypt:2)
  2 shadow wraiths
  3 sun demons (WizLab)
  3 salamander mystics
  10 deep elf knights
  Erolcha (D:13)
  7 iron trolls
  2 death drakes
  32 skeletal warriors
  2 unseen horrors
  A fire crab (Vaults:2)
  16 hill giants
  8 giant orange brains
  2 anaconda zombies (Crypt:1)
  An ice devil (WizLab)
  21 deep trolls
  6 flayed ghosts
  6 deep elf summoners
  2 shadow demons (WizLab)
  An ice statue (IceCv)
  A shadow dragon zombie (Crypt:1)
  6 naga ritualists
  Pikel (D:5)
  13 orc knights
  A hill giant (shapeshifter) (Depths:4)
  5 harpies (Vaults:4)
  4 deep elf conjurers
  15 swamp dragons
  12 ironbrand convokers
  A red wasp (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2)
  2 stone giant zombies
  A hellion (WizLab)
  A very ugly thing zombie (Depths:4)
  4 wizards
  8 necromancers
  A harpy (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2)
  6 griffons
  A frost giant zombie (Crypt:3)
  12 mana vipers
  2 shining eyes
  An oklob plant (Snake:3)
  6 orc sorcerers
  9 cyclopes
  4 wolf spiders
  8 red wasps
  A sixfirhy (Zot:4)
  A draconian zombie (Zot:3)
  13 salamanders
  24 elephants
  15 moths of wrath
  10 phantasmal warriors
  2 frost giant skeletons
  A shock serpent zombie (Crypt:1)
  2 gargoyles
  2 elf zombies
  21 spiny frogs
  A black mamba (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2)
  3 eyes of devastation
  3 guardian serpents (Snake:4)
  A stone giant skeleton (Crypt:2)
  10 vault sentinels
  24 naga magi
  A smoke demon (Depths:5)
  34 black mambas
  5 torpor snails
  A purple draconian zombie (Zot:4)
  A kobold demonologist (Vaults:1)
  9 komodo dragons
  An item mimic (Swamp:1)
  32 yaktaurs
  A yellow draconian zombie (Zot:3)
  A sea snake zombie (Crypt:1)
  A spriggan zombie (Depths:2)
  2 blue devils
  6 deep elf priests
  A hydra zombie (D:15)
  A silent spectre (Crypt:3)
  3 fire drakes
  2 spriggan druids
  Grinder (D:3)
  A sea snake skeleton (Crypt:2)
  2 trolls (shapeshifter)
  3 tengu conjurers
  A blink frog (shapeshifter) (Depths:4)
  A yellow draconian skeleton (Crypt:1)
  26 freezing wraiths
  4 trolls
  A jumping spider (Vaults:4)
  3 polar bears
  2 harpy skeletons (Crypt:2)
  3 fire vortices
  A shadow dragon simulacrum (Crypt:1)
  A jumping spider zombie (Crypt:1)
  11 two-headed ogres
  16 blink frogs
  Prince Ribbit (D:6)
  2 boulder beetles
  A fire dragon zombie (Crypt:1)
  4 basilisks
  An iron dragon simulacrum (Crypt:2)
  An ice dragon zombie (Crypt:1)
  A moth of wrath zombie (Zot:3)
  A griffon zombie (D:10)
  9 bog bodies
  8 giant leeches
  A trapdoor spider zombie (D:13)
  2 wolf spider simulacra (IceCv)
  25 ravens
  99 slime creatures
  A trapdoor spider (D:14)
  53 flying skulls
  An ettin zombie (Crypt:3)
  An ice dragon skeleton (Crypt:2)
  A boulder beetle (shapeshifter) (Depths:1)
  9 shadows
  11 redbacks
  A black mamba zombie (Crypt:1)
  3 water elementals
  A redback (shapeshifter) (Depths:3)
  3 ynoxinuls (WizLab)
  An elf simulacrum (Depths:3)
  A tarantella (shapeshifter) (Depths:1)
  9 wraiths
  A wyvern (D:14)
  A griffon skeleton (Crypt:2)
  25 spriggans
  A tarantella (Elf:2)
  24 deep elf magi
  5 vampires
  7 golden eyes
  A chaos spawn (WizLab)
  46 yaks
  16 air elementals
  A neqoxec (WizLab)
  A dire elephant simulacrum (Crypt:3)
  33 ugly things
  A death yak simulacrum (IceCv)
  11 hippogriffs
  A human (shapeshifter) (D:15)
  19 deep elf fighters
  3 hungry ghosts
  3 hill giant skeletons
  16 vampire mosquitoes
  A putrid demonspawn zombie (Crypt:2)
  A steam dragon (Zot:4)
  2 deep troll zombies (Depths:2)
  25 wolves
  2 wargs (Vaults:2)
  26 swamp worms
  A human zombie (Crypt:1)
  A raven skeleton (Crypt:2)
  19 porcupines
  50 nagas
  3 mottled dragons
  2 soldier ants
  A trapdoor spider simulacrum (D:13)
  7 necrophages
  38 orc warriors
  44 water moccasins
  An alligator simulacrum (Crypt:1)
  A phantom (D:11)
  Purgy (Sewer)
  A manticore zombie (D:12)
  4 small abominations
  20 yellow wasps
  6 black bears (Lair:8)
  14 swamp drakes
  21 ice beasts
  A spider (Elf:3)
  31 ogres
  3 sky beasts
  10 boggarts
  A snapping turtle zombie (Crypt:1)
  2 snapping turtle skeletons
  15 centaurs
  3 lost souls
  Sigmund (D:5)
  2 boring beetles (D:13)
  A brain worm (D:13)
  4 yaktaur zombies (Depths:4)
  31 crocodiles
  19 giant frogs
  A water moccasin zombie (Crypt:1)
  2 big kobolds
  21 insubstantial wisps
  A cyclops zombie (Crypt:1)
  A gnoll sergeant (Orc:4)
  A spiny frog simulacrum (Crypt:1)
  2 human simulacra
  6 scorpions
  A wyvern skeleton (D:9)
  15 killer bees
  A boulder beetle zombie (Crypt:1)
  9 eyes of draining
  An electric eel (Lair:1)
  A raiju skeleton (Crypt:2)
  A troll skeleton (D:11)
  16 wights
  4 crimson imps
  4 goliath beetles
  37 jellies
  2 centaur zombies
  A giant frog skeleton (D:11)
  3 centaur skeletons
  2 giant frog zombies (D:13)
  10 hounds
  29 orc priests
  42 orc wizards
  4 draconian simulacra (IceCv)
  6 worker ants
  2 spriggan simulacra (IceCv)
  A spectral orc (D:13)
  8 iguanas
  A wolf simulacrum (IceCv)
  An ogre zombie (D:5)
  17 sheep
  2 troll simulacra (IceCv)
  Jessica (D:2)
  A mottled dragon zombie (D:14)
  A naga zombie (Crypt:1)
  5 centaur simulacra (IceCv)
  A mottled dragon skeleton (D:14)
  2 big kobold skeletons
  A hound skeleton (Crypt:1)
  A mummy (D:15)
  10 gnolls
  20 adders
  A steam dragon skeleton (Crypt:2)
  4 ogre simulacra (IceCv)
  A steam dragon zombie (Crypt:1)
  2 giant mites
  56 green rats
  3 naga simulacra (IceCv)
  An inept feature mimic (D:7)
  3 shadow imps
  6 worms
  13 white imps
  An iguana zombie (D:11)
  An orc zombie (D:5)
  2 adder skeletons
  The ghost of magicpoints the Sneak, a weakling NaFE (D:4)
  13 giant geckos
  3 oozes
  174 orcs
  A ball python (D:8)
  A bat skeleton (D:5)
  10 giant cockroaches
  19 hobgoblins
  8 jackals
  25 kobolds
  10 quokkas
  26 bats
  13 giant newts
  2 giant spores
  23 goblins
  A kobold skeleton (D:4)
  An orc skeleton (D:6)
  12 rats
  11 ballistomycetes
  2 bushes (Lair:8)
  5 fungi
  8 plants
2932 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  An eldritch tentacle (Zot:3)
  A thorn hunter (Swamp:4)
  A tengu reaver (Depths:4)
  A naga warrior (Snake:4)
  An unseen horror (D:15)
  An orc knight (Vaults:2)
  A black mamba (Snake:4)
  2 trolls (Vaults:2)
  6 fire vortices
  2 ravens
  A slime creature (Slime:4)
  Menkaure (D:5)
  A centaur (D:5)
  2 orc warriors (Vaults:2)
  A crocodile (Lair:7)
  3 lost souls (Crypt:3)
  Blork the orc (D:5)
  A wight (Crypt:1)
  2 orc priests
  An orc wizard (Vaults:2)
  A sheep (Lair:5)
  An adder (Lair:5)
  A giant gecko (D:5)
  An ooze (D:1)
  5 orcs
  A bat (D:5)
  A giant cockroach (D:5)
  3 goblins (D:5)
  2 kobolds
  95 eldritch tentacle segments (Zot:3)
  20 fungi
  5 plants
167 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 3099 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
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     0 | D:1      | Bart, the Deep Elf Fire Elementalist, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 10/10 MP: 5/5
   135 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 15/15 MP: 1/8
   872 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 19/19 MP: 4/11
   877 | D:2      | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame
   945 | D:2      | Reached skill level 4 in Fire Magic
  1015 | D:2      | Noticed Jessica
  1023 | D:2      | Killed Jessica
  1091 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 15/24 MP: 1/15
  1544 | D:2      | Learned a level 4 spell: Sticky Flame
  1762 | D:3      | Found a glowing drain.
  1773 | Sewer    | Entered a sewer
  1903 | Sewer    | Noticed Purgy
  1916 | Sewer    | Killed Purgy
  1916 | Sewer    | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
  1916 | Sewer    | Reached XP level 5. HP: 21/28 MP: 11/19
  2154 | D:3      | Noticed Grinder
  2157 | D:3      | Paralysed by Grinder for 6 turns
  2167 | D:3      | Paralysed by Grinder for 2 turns
  2170 | D:3      | Killed Grinder
  2170 | D:3      | Reached skill level 6 in Spellcasting
  2170 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Fire Magic
  2170 | D:3      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 26/32 MP: 6/22
  2367 | D:3      | Learned a level 5 spell: Fireball
  2779 | D:4      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  2811 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  2854 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of Ru the Awakened
  2902 | D:4      | Noticed magicpoints' ghost (weakling NaFE)
  3016 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 32/36 MP: 20/24
  3028 | D:4      | Got an ominously black robe
  3037 | D:4      | Identified the +1 robe of Shielding {Stlth+} (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon)
  3111 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3118 | D:5      | Noticed Pikel
  3129 | D:5      | Killed Pikel
  3129 | D:5      | Reached skill level 7 in Spellcasting
  3129 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations
  3200 | D:5      | Noticed Sigmund
  3230 | D:4      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 35/41 MP: 22/27
  3355 | D:4      | Killed magicpoints' ghost
  3675 | D:5      | Noticed Blork the orc
  3749 | D:5      | Killed Menkaure
  3756 | D:6      | Reached skill level 8 in Spellcasting
  3872 | D:6      | Noticed Prince Ribbit
  3919 | D:5      | Killed Blork the orc
  4087 | D:5      | Gained mutation: You cannot train your Armour skill. [Ru sacrifice]
  4087 | D:5      | Acquired Ru's first power
  4296 | D:5      | Killed Sigmund
  4492 | D:5      | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
  4795 | D:6      | Killed Prince Ribbit
  4971 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 43/49 MP: 22/28
  5799 | D:7      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  5930 | D:7      | Reached skill level 9 in Fire Magic
  6152 | D:7      | Gained mutation: You cannot drink potions while threatened. [Ru sacrifice]
  6152 | D:7      | Acquired Ru's second power
  6239 | D:7      | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
  6322 | D:7      | the staircase to the Ecumenical Temple was a mimic.
  7313 | D:9      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 56/58 MP: 18/29
  7463 | D:9      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  7463 | D:9      | Reached skill level 10 in Fire Magic
  7753 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
  7753 | D:10     | Noticed a hill giant
  8035 | D:10     | Gained mutation: You take slightly more damage. (-3 AC) [Ru sacrifice]
  8035 | D:10     | Acquired Ru's third power
  8114 | D:10     | Found Mnesuan's Antique Armour Boutique.
  8136 | D:10     | Noticed a hill giant
  8140 | D:10     | Killed a hill giant
  8140 | D:10     | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations
  8329 | D:10     | Bought a glowing robe for 18 gold pieces
  8329 | D:10     | Bought a pair of boots for 121 gold pieces
  8455 | D:10     | Killed a hill giant
  8636 | D:10     | Noticed Fannar
  8640 | D:10     | Killed Fannar
  8640 | D:10     | Reached skill level 11 in Fire Magic
  8742 | D:10     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 50/66 MP: 16/31
  8945 | D:11     | Noticed crauler's ghost (powerful TrMo)
  9322 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
  9455 | D:11     | Gained mutation: You can translocate small distances at will. [potion of mutation]
  9455 | D:11     | Gained mutation: Your natural rate of healing is unusually fast. [potion of mutation]
  9455 | D:11     | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in molten scales (AC +1). [potion of mutation]
  9468 | D:11     | Gained mutation: You are good at translocating small distances at will. [potion of beneficial mutation]
  9520 | D:11     | Noticed a hill giant
  9525 | D:11     | Killed a hill giant
  9805 | D:12     | Learned a level 2 spell: Sublimation of Blood
  9811 | D:12     | Learned a level 5 spell: Ignite Poison
  9928 | D:11     | Reached skill level 1 in Transmutations
  9956 | D:11     | Noticed a hill giant
  9971 | D:11     | Killed a hill giant
 10048 | D:11     | Gained mutation: You cannot study or use magical devices. [Ru sacrifice]
 10048 | D:11     | Acquired Ru's fourth power
 10048 | D:11     | Acquired Ru's fifth power
 10110 | D:11     | Noticed an eight-headed hydra
 10115 | D:11     | Killed an eight-headed hydra
 10115 | D:11     | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 10291 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 10310 | D:11     | Reached skill level 12 in Fire Magic
 10547 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 10988 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 5 in Transmutations
 10988 | Lair:1   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 67/71 MP: 19/31
 11137 | Lair:1   | Gained mutation: You are hated by all. [Ru sacrifice]
 11308 | Lair:2   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 11326 | Lair:2   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 11329 | Lair:2   | Killed a six-headed hydra
 11405 | Lair:2   | Found an opulent altar of Gozag.
 11834 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 1 in Necromancy
 11834 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 13 in Fire Magic
 12387 | Lair:3   | Got a pair of ancient boots
 12391 | Lair:3   | Identified the +0 pair of boots of the Eleven Runes {SInv} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts)
 12553 | Lair:3   | Gained mutation: You are frail (-10% HP). [Ru sacrifice]
 12580 | Lair:3   | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
 12828 | Lair:3   | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
 13045 | Lair:4   | Killed a four-headed hydra
 13178 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 5 in Necromancy
 13214 | Lair:4   | Got an ichor-stained whip
 13215 | Lair:4   | Identified the +8 whip of Action {slash, +Rage rF+} (You found it on level 4 of the Lair of Beasts)
 13240 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 13271 | Lair:4   | Got a pitted leather armour
 13280 | Lair:4   | Identified the +2 leather armour "Niumipy" {Int+2 Stlth+} (You found it on level 4 of the Lair of Beasts)
 13576 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting
 13779 | Lair:5   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 66/68 MP: 5/34
 13948 | Lair:5   | Noticed a seven-headed hydra
 14014 | Lair:5   | Killed a seven-headed hydra
 14094 | Lair:5   | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
 14853 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 15389 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 16076 | Lair:7   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 77/77 MP: 12/36
 16501 | Lair:7   | Learned a level 6 spell: Poison Arrow
 16556 | Lair:8   | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
 16607 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 1 in Poison Magic
 17131 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 5 in Poison Magic
 17137 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
 17906 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 17930 | Orc:1    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 18007 | Orc:1    | Found Eviriul's Antique Armour Shop.
 18276 | Orc:2    | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
 18720 | Orc:3    | Found a frozen archway.
 18843 | IceCv    | Entered an ice cave
 19055 | IceCv    | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
 19380 | Orc:3    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 19432 | Orc:3    | Found Qiasubuq's Assorted Antiques.
 19617 | Orc:4    | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
 19766 | Orc:4    | Found Cupnuust's Armour Boutique.
 19973 | Orc:4    | Reached XP level 15. HP: 68/82 MP: 16/37
 20205 | Orc:4    | Found Kat Udda's Jewellery Shoppe.
 20206 | Orc:4    | Found Xetaerch's Jewellery Shop.
 20206 | Orc:4    | Found Ylocrosite's Distillery.
 20206 | Orc:4    | Found Ovisulol's Assorted Antiques.
 20216 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of blinking for 202 gold pieces
 20219 | Orc:4    | Bought a potion of haste for 98 gold pieces
 20219 | Orc:4    | Bought a potion of brilliance for 35 gold pieces
 20219 | Orc:4    | Bought a potion of resistance for 98 gold pieces
 20228 | Orc:4    | Bought the ring of Idealism {rPois Int+2} for 405 gold pieces
 20319 | Orc:3    | Bought a potion of beneficial mutation for 1015 gold pieces
 20320 | Orc:3    | Gained mutation: You can spit poison. [potion of beneficial mutation]
 20321 | Orc:3    | Bought a scroll of blinking for 217 gold pieces
 20361 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
 20369 | Orc:2    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 20688 | D:12     | Found Ympioq's Weapon Shop.
 20916 | D:12     | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
 21152 | D:12     | Noticed an unseen horror
 21159 | D:12     | Killed an unseen horror
 21280 | D:13     | Noticed Josephine
 21281 | D:13     | Killed Josephine
 21354 | D:13     | Noticed Erolcha
 21355 | D:13     | Killed Erolcha
 21474 | D:13     | Noticed Nergalle
 21481 | D:13     | Killed Nergalle
 21583 | D:13     | Found Wuchy's Antique Weapon Shoppe.
 21671 | D:13     | Reached skill level 14 in Conjurations
 22378 | D:14     | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 22474 | D:14     | Found a portal to a secret trove of treasure.
 22822 | D:14     | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
 23009 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 23258 | D:15     | Found Qanif's Book Emporium.
 23346 | D:15     | Found a staircase to the Depths.
 23389 | D:15     | Reached skill level 15 in Conjurations
 23834 | D:15     | Bought a book of Wizardry for 570 gold pieces
 23842 | D:15     | Learned a level 6 spell: Haste
 24101 | Lair:6   | Reached XP level 16. HP: 87/87 MP: 25/38
 24119 | Swamp:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp
 25792 | Swamp:3  | Reached skill level 16 in Conjurations
 26951 | Swamp:4  | Reached skill level 15 in Dodging
 27309 | Swamp:5  | Entered Level 5 of the Swamp
 27343 | Swamp:5  | Reached skill level 1 in Charms
 27550 | Swamp:5  | Reached skill level 5 in Charms
 28350 | Swamp:5  | Reached XP level 17. HP: 52/90 MP: 24/39
 28483 | Swamp:5  | Reached skill level 10 in Charms
 28653 | Swamp:5  | Noticed the 27-headed Lernaean hydra
 28836 | Swamp:5  | Got a dazzling mace
 28853 | Swamp:5  | Got a decaying rune of Zot
 28895 | Swamp:5  | Killed the 27-headed Lernaean hydra
 29201 | Snake:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Snake Pit
 29613 | Snake:1  | Identified the +8 mace of Equivalence {flame, +Blink Str+3} (You found it on level 5 of the Swamp)
 29749 | Snake:1  | Got a steaming trident
 29750 | Snake:1  | Identified the +5 trident of Rokhati {flame, rN+ SInv Stlth++} (You found it on level 1 of the Snake Pit)
 29777 | Snake:1  | Reached skill level 15 in Spellcasting
 30212 | Snake:2  | Noticed Nikola
 30221 | Snake:2  | Killed Nikola
 30906 | Snake:2  | Learned a level 8 spell: Lehudib's Crystal Spear
 30941 | Snake:3  | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 31122 | Snake:3  | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
 31424 | Snake:3  | Noticed Jorgrun
 31479 | Snake:3  | Killed Jorgrun
 31730 | Snake:5  | Entered Level 5 of the Snake Pit
 32303 | Snake:4  | Reached XP level 18. HP: 95/99 MP: 17/42
 32385 | Snake:4  | Learned a level 1 spell: Apportation
 32621 | Snake:5  | Reached skill level 1 in Earth Magic
 33075 | Snake:5  | Reached skill level 17 in Conjurations
 33251 | Snake:5  | Reached skill level 5 in Earth Magic
 33656 | Snake:5  | Got a serpentine rune of Zot
 34370 | Snake:4  | Got a polished broad axe
 34371 | Snake:4  | Identified the +9 broad axe "Spiderslayer" {antimagic, rF+} (You found it on level 4 of the Snake Pit)
 34642 | Swamp:3  | Got a brightly glowing trident
 34643 | Swamp:3  | Identified the +8 trident of Might {elec, rC+ Dex+2} (You found it on level 3 of the Swamp)
 34967 | Depths:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Depths
 35020 | Depths:1 | Found a gateway to Hell.
 35954 | Depths:1 | Reached skill level 18 in Conjurations
 36662 | Depths:2 | Reached XP level 19. HP: 92/104 MP: 36/42
 36949 | Depths:2 | Noticed the Enchantress
 37069 | Depths:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Earth Magic
 37928 | Depths:3 | Reached skill level 19 in Conjurations
 39065 | Depths:3 | Found a one-way gate leading to the halls of Pandemonium.
 39172 | Depths:3 | Got a slimy cloak
 39176 | Depths:3 | Identified the +0 cloak of the Heron {Dex+4 Int+4} (You found it on level 3 of the Depths)
 39338 | Depths:3 | Noticed a golden dragon
 40034 | Depths:4 | Found a gateway to a ziggurat.
 40265 | D:15     | Bought a book of Minor Magic for 380 gold pieces
 40269 | D:15     | Learned a level 2 spell: Repel Missiles
 40657 | Depths:4 | Reached skill level 20 in Conjurations
 40756 | Depths:4 | Found a one-way gate to the infinite horrors of the Abyss.
 40903 | Depths:4 | Reached XP level 20. HP: 96/108 MP: 30/43
 41621 | Depths:4 | Noticed Mara
 41636 | Depths:4 | Noticed Sojobo
 42141 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults
 42647 | Vaults:1 | Got a bloodstained scimitar
 42648 | Vaults:1 | Identified the +9 scimitar of the Mushroom {venom, Contam +Fly rC+ rN+ Int+3} (You found it on level 1 of the Vaults)
 42721 | Vaults:1 | Reached skill level 21 in Conjurations
 43027 | Vaults:1 | Found Wearr's Weapon Shop.
 43190 | Vaults:1 | Reached skill level 15 in Earth Magic
 43386 | Vaults:1 | Learned a level 9 spell: Fire Storm
 43397 | Vaults:1 | Learned a level 4 spell: Control Teleport
 43917 | Vaults:2 | Found a flickering gateway to a bazaar.
 43928 | Bazaar   | Entered a bazaar
 43931 | Bazaar   | Found Kloskapt's Distillery.
 43944 | Bazaar   | Found Klaaz's Assorted Antiques.
 43950 | Bazaar   | Bought a scroll labeled NASOAT FOETZIK for 25 gold pieces
 43974 | Bazaar   | Found Scheatere's Magic Scroll Boutique.
 43974 | Bazaar   | Found Imacinle's Gadget Shop.
 44004 | Bazaar   | Bought a scroll of fog for 32 gold pieces
 44004 | Bazaar   | Bought a scroll of blinking for 120 gold pieces
 44004 | Bazaar   | Bought a scroll of teleportation for 48 gold pieces
 44004 | Bazaar   | Bought a scroll of teleportation for 48 gold pieces
 44004 | Bazaar   | Bought a scroll of teleportation for 48 gold pieces
 44017 | Bazaar   | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 30 gold pieces
 44017 | Bazaar   | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 30 gold pieces
 44017 | Bazaar   | Bought a potion of haste for 70 gold pieces
 44017 | Bazaar   | Bought a potion of brilliance for 25 gold pieces
 45024 | Vaults:2 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 56/113 MP: 19/43
 46989 | Vaults:4 | Reached skill level 22 in Conjurations
 47249 | Vaults:4 | Reached skill level 15 in Fire Magic
 47497 | Vaults:4 | Found Owin's Jewellery Emporium.
 47937 | Vaults:3 | Found a staircase to the Crypt.
 47940 | Crypt:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Crypt
 49367 | Crypt:2  | Noticed Frederick
 50030 | Crypt:3  | Entered Level 3 of the Crypt
 50712 | Crypt:3  | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
 50732 | Crypt:3  | Reached XP level 22. HP: 78/119 MP: 5/44
 51755 | Crypt:3  | Identified the Handbook of Black Rituals
 51821 | Crypt:3  | Reached skill level 23 in Conjurations
 53031 | Crypt:3  | Found a staircase to the Tomb.
 53626 | D:11     | Killed crauler's ghost
 53752 | Elf:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Elven Halls
 54194 | Elf:1    | Noticed Aizul
 54201 | Elf:1    | Killed Aizul
 54280 | Elf:1    | Got a transparent turquoise ring
 54281 | Elf:1    | Identified the ring of Detrofa {Str+4 Dex+3 Stlth+} (You found it on level 1 of the Elven Halls)
 54812 | Elf:2    | Noticed Nessos
 54816 | Elf:2    | Killed Nessos
 54897 | Elf:2    | Found Axair's Antique Weapon Shop.
 55185 | Elf:3    | Entered Level 3 of the Elven Halls
 55193 | Elf:3    | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
 56227 | Elf:3    | Got a faintly glowing silver ring
 56233 | Elf:3    | Identified the ring "Throsus" {AC+3 Str+3 Dex+4} (You took it off a deep elf summoner on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
 56608 | Elf:3    | Reached XP level 23. HP: 82/126 MP: 33/44
 56774 | Elf:3    | Got a jewelled quarterstaff
 56781 | Elf:3    | Identified the +4 quarterstaff of the Foot {venom, rF- rC++ rN+} (You took it off a deep elf sorcerer on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
 56797 | Elf:3    | Got a warped brass ring
 56798 | Elf:3    | Identified the ring of the Tempest {+Rage rElec rC+ SInv} (You took it off a deep elf death mage on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
 56872 | Elf:3    | Reached skill level 24 in Conjurations
 56976 | Elf:3    | Got an encrusted war axe
 56977 | Elf:3    | Identified the +6 war axe of Kherani {vamp, +Blink rF+ rN+} (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
 56987 | Elf:3    | Got a smoking shortbow
 57476 | Slime:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Pits of Slime
 58835 | Slime:6  | Entered Level 6 of the Pits of Slime
 59056 | Slime:6  | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
 59059 | Slime:6  | Killed the royal jelly
 59711 | Vaults:1 | Learned a level 5 spell: Lee's Rapid Deconstruction
 60738 | Slime:6  | Got a slimy rune of Zot
 60804 | Slime:6  | Identified the Almanac of Glacial Beguiling (You found it on level 6 of the Pits of Slime)
 60807 | Slime:6  | Identified Khufu's Handbook of Evil (You found it on level 6 of the Pits of Slime)
 60859 | Slime:6  | Got a smoking ring mail
 60860 | Slime:6  | Identified the cursed -2 ring mail "Muruik" {Dex+4 Int-2} (You found it on level 6 of the Pits of Slime)
 62455 | Slime:6  | Got a crude whip
 62456 | Slime:6  | Identified the +7 whip "Throteose" {slash, rC+ Stlth-} (You found it on level 6 of the Pits of Slime)
 63006 | Crypt:3  | Got a heavily runed iron ring
 63007 | Crypt:3  | Got a dazzling war axe
 63008 | Crypt:3  | Identified the +7 war axe of Wonereew {chop, rPois SInv} (You took it off a skeletal warrior on level 3 of the Crypt)
 63552 | Depths:4 | Killed Sojobo
 63696 | Depths:4 | Killed Mara
 63758 | Depths:4 | Noticed an ancient lich
 63762 | Depths:4 | Killed an ancient lich
 63799 | Depths:4 | Noticed Boris
 63815 | Depths:4 | Killed Boris
 63859 | Depths:4 | Identified the ring of Rouluga {Str+3 Slay+2 SInv} (You took it off a skeletal warrior on level 3 of the Crypt)
 64102 | Depths:4 | Got a faintly glowing leather armour
 64114 | Depths:4 | Identified the cursed -5 leather armour of the Armoured One {SInv} (You took it off a spriggan on level 4 of the Depths)
 64339 | Depths:4 | Reached XP level 24. HP: 130/130 MP: 34/46
 64892 | Depths:4 | Identified Pnoap's Volume of Arcane Weapons
 64987 | Depths:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Depths
 65537 | Depths:5 | Found a magical portal.
 65543 | WizLab   | Entered Doroklohe's Tomb
 66183 | WizLab   | Got a faintly humming fire dragon armour
 66184 | WizLab   | Identified the cursed -2 fire dragon armour "Ypnecug" {+Blink rF++ rC- MR++} (You found it in a wizard's laboratory)
 66779 | Depths:5 | Found a gate to the Realm of Zot.
 66786 | Zot:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Realm of Zot
 67549 | Zot:1    | Noticed Tiamat
 67898 | Zot:2    | Reached XP level 25. HP: 132/135 MP: 4/49
 68940 | Zot:1    | Reached skill level 25 in Spellcasting
 69343 | Zot:1    | Killed Tiamat
 69627 | Zot:1    | Reached skill level 26 in Spellcasting
 71490 | Zot:3    | Reached XP level 26. HP: 114/141 MP: 25/50
 72938 | Zot:5    | Entered Level 5 of the Realm of Zot
 74135 | Zot:5    | Reached skill level 1 in Translocations
 74157 | Zot:5    | Noticed an ancient lich
 74160 | Zot:5    | Killed an ancient lich
 74254 | Zot:5    | Noticed an orb of fire
 74290 | Zot:5    | Killed an orb of fire
 74442 | Zot:5    | Noticed an ancient lich
 74691 | Zot:5    | Killed an ancient lich
 74691 | Zot:5    | Reached XP level 27. HP: 127/147 MP: 23/50
 74806 | Zot:5    | Noticed an ancient lich
 74836 | Zot:5    | Killed an ancient lich
 74943 | Zot:5    | Noticed an ancient lich
 74959 | Zot:5    | Killed an ancient lich
 75018 | Zot:5    | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
 75107 | Zot:5    | Noticed an orb of fire
 75114 | Zot:5    | Killed an orb of fire
 75188 | Zot:5    | Noticed an orb of fire
 75192 | Zot:5    | Killed an orb of fire
 75445 | Zot:5    | Got the Orb of Zot
 75521 | Zot:1    | Noticed Guyn the pandemonium lord
 75528 | Zot:1    | Killed Guyn the pandemonium lord
 75572 | Depths:5 | Noticed Heataovo the pandemonium lord
 75672 | Depths:2 | Killed the Enchantress
 75991 | D:4      | Noticed Zockoq the pandemonium lord


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 | 22-24 | 25-27 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Dagger            |     3 |     7 |       |       |       |       |       |       |       ||    10
       Whip              |       |       |    21 |    36 |   530 |   111 |       |       |       ||   698
       War axe           |       |       |     1 |   185 |       |       |       |       |       ||   186
       Trident           |       |       |       |       |       |    17 |    86 |    73 |     9 ||   185
Throw: Javelin           |       |       |     3 |       |       |       |       |       |       ||     3
 Cast: Flame Tongue      |    62 |   109 |   227 |   132 |   118 |    23 |    41 |     5 |       ||   717
       Sticky Flame      |       |     4 |    16 |    86 |   120 |    52 |    58 |    29 |    12 ||   377
       Conjure Flame     |       |       |     9 |    37 |    15 |     1 |    27 |     5 |       ||    94
       Fireball          |       |       |    10 |    93 |   305 |   278 |   456 |   537 |   121 ||  1800
       Ignite Poison     |       |       |       |    18 |    20 |   279 |     4 |       |       ||   321
       Sublimation of Bl |       |       |       |    15 |   161 |   254 |   172 |   259 |   150 ||  1011
       Poison Arrow      |       |       |       |       |    47 |   144 |   211 |   129 |   156 ||   687
       Lehudib's Crystal |       |       |       |       |       |       |    21 |    56 |    85 ||   162
       Haste             |       |       |       |       |       |       |     5 |    12 |    11 ||    28
       Repel Missiles    |       |       |       |       |       |       |     2 |     2 |     3 ||     7
       Fire Storm        |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |    29 |    61 ||    90
       Lee's Rapid Decon |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |    27 |       ||    27
       Apportation       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |    14 ||    15
Invok: Sacrifice Durabil |       |       |     1 |       |       |       |       |       |       ||     1
       Sacrifice Drink   |       |       |     2 |       |       |       |       |       |       ||     2
       Draw Out Power    |       |       |       |     6 |     4 |       |     4 |       |     1 ||    15
       Sacrifice Health  |       |       |       |     2 |       |       |       |       |       ||     2
       Sacrifice Artific |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |       |       |       ||     1
       Sacrifice Love    |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |       |       |       ||     1
       Cataclysm         |       |       |       |       |     2 |       |       |       |       ||     2
       Power Leap        |       |       |       |       |     4 |     5 |     3 |     1 |     2 ||    15
 Abil: Blink             |       |       |       |     2 |     3 |     7 |     6 |     7 |       ||    25
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |    11 |     3 |       |       |       |       |       ||    14
  Use: Scroll            |       |     8 |     8 |     8 |     7 |    11 |     5 |    19 |     6 ||    72
       Potion            |       |     2 |     2 |    10 |     5 |     5 |     3 |     9 |     3 ||    39
 Stab: Sleeping          |       |       |     1 |       |     1 |       |       |       |       ||     2
       Invisible         |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     2
       Paralysed         |       |       |       |       |    10 |    11 |     2 |       |       ||    23
       Distracted        |       |       |       |       |     3 |       |     1 |     1 |       ||     5
  Eat: Chunk             |       |     7 |    14 |    33 |    45 |    46 |    30 |    21 |     9 ||   205
       Royal jelly       |       |       |     1 |       |     1 |       |       |       |       ||     2
       Beef jerky        |       |       |       |     2 |       |     5 |     7 |     7 |     4 ||    25
       Pizza             |       |       |       |     3 |       |     5 |     1 |     1 |     1 ||    11
       Fruit             |       |       |       |     1 |     3 |     1 |     7 |    14 |     8 ||    34
       Bread ration      |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
       Meat ration       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1

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Post Wednesday, 30th July 2014, 19:56

Re: Proposal: Ru, god of balance and sacrifice

Thanks for the write-up, Bart! I watched you do Zot:5 and ascend, and it seemed like you were doing quite well there, though you didn't make much use of Ru powers, as you said. There was one point in the ascent where you used Draw Out Power to recover while fighting a pan lord, a death cob, and an iron devil, and I thought that Cataclysm might have been a better choice, since it would have wiped out the entire group, but otherwise it seemed like you had everything under control.

Regarding the issues you described:
* Sacrifice Evo is one of the higher piety sacrifices (35 piety, compared with 20 for stealth/armour/dodging, 25 for Arcana), but it might well deserve a piety buff. Exact piety numbers for each sacrifice are probably the thing that could use the most review at this point.
* You mentioned not being sure what Sacrifice Sanity did. Did you read the help text for the ability?
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Adherents who choose to sacrifice their sanity become terrified of dangerous
monsters. Such monsters fill them with horror, which interferes with their
combat and spellcasting abilties. If you make this sacrifice, your powers
granted by Ru will become stronger in proportion to the value of the
sacrifice, and you may gain new powers as well.

* The "small/medium/high/very high" piety grade for each sacrifice that you requested already exists. It gets displayed when you make a sacrifice before you choose to accept or reject. Similarly, if the sacrifice could have multiple possible outcomes, the exact outcome is listed before you accept or reject the sacrifice, so you can't get deteriorating II by accident -- you have to accept it both times.
* Draw Out Power curing status effects is a good idea, and one I hadn't previously considered. Do you have a suggestion of which status effects it should clear? My first reaction would be poison, confusion, mesmerize, and petrify.
* What would it take to make Cataclysm worthwhile to you?

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Post Wednesday, 30th July 2014, 21:00

Re: Proposal: Ru, god of balance and sacrifice

In the first post you've said:
Lasty wrote:Sacrifice Sanity: The player gets the "horror" status when viewing bloody tiles. The status imposes slaying penalties and negative wizardry proportional to the number of tiles in sight.
I see no information in the description about bloody tiles, is that still true? 'Interfering with combat and spellcasting abilities' was also a vague description to me. I felt reluctant to be further weakened in combats against dangerous monsters. I believe that the sacrifice would be more acceptable if the effect depended on the number of enemies or tension.

Lasty wrote:There was one point in the ascent where you used Draw Out Power to recover while fighting a pan lord, a death cob, and an iron devil, and I thought that Cataclysm might have been a better choice, since it would have wiped out the entire group, but otherwise it seemed like you had everything under control.

Possibly it would be safer :) I tried to avoid heavy draining since I had a feeling that during ascension I risk more by additional draining.

Lasty wrote:The "small/medium/high/very high" piety grade for each sacrifice that you requested already exists. It gets displayed when you make a sacrifice before you choose to accept or reject. Similarly, if the sacrifice could have multiple possible outcomes, the exact outcome is listed before you accept or reject the sacrifice, so you can't get deteriorating II by accident -- you have to accept it both times

Thanks! I didn't notice that. Would it be possible to display the direct outcome in ability screen? It's few key presses more to check it and not obvious the first time you do it.

Lasty wrote:Draw Out Power curing status effects is a good idea, and one I hadn't previously considered. Do you have a suggestion of which status effects it should clear? My first reaction would be poison, confusion, mesmerize, and petrify

How about drain? :P I think your list is good.

Lasty wrote:What would it take to make Cataclysm worthwhile to you?

Maybe it would be worth considering to trigger draining after a while instead of immediately (let's say, 20 turns of delay). I would really like to use Cataclysm as a party opener, but then I'd have to continue the fight with reduced skills.

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Post Wednesday, 30th July 2014, 21:31

Re: Proposal: Ru, god of balance and sacrifice

Flay,engulf,constriction,silence? (Is there a source of monster silence that isn't an aura?)

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Post Wednesday, 30th July 2014, 21:39

Re: Proposal: Ru, god of balance and sacrifice

Bart wrote:In the first post you've said:
Lasty wrote:Sacrifice Sanity: The player gets the "horror" status when viewing bloody tiles. The status imposes slaying penalties and negative wizardry proportional to the number of tiles in sight.
I see no information in the description about bloody tiles, is that still true? 'Interfering with combat and spellcasting abilities' was also a vague description to me. I felt reluctant to be further weakened in combats against dangerous monsters. I believe that the sacrifice would be more acceptable if the effect depended on the number of enemies or tension.

The bloody tiles was a previous version of sac sanity that is no longer the current version. "Interfering with combat and spellcasting" is somewhat vague, it's a -slaying and -wiz penalty. I still say that it should be -slaying and -spellpower, rather than success, but for now it's still -wizardry as far as I know. The reason for that being that then you have to keep checking your success rates to see if you can still cast your spells, which is an interface problem, rather than just hitting for slightly less damage with your spells (which is more like what happens with melee).

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Post Saturday, 2nd August 2014, 06:22

Re: Proposal: Ru, god of balance and sacrifice

Bart wrote:
Lasty wrote:What would it take to make Cataclysm worthwhile to you?

Maybe it would be worth considering to trigger draining after a while instead of immediately (let's say, 20 turns of delay). I would really like to use Cataclysm as a party opener, but then I'd have to continue the fight with reduced skills.


I think this is one of the particularly neat things about Ru.
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Post Saturday, 2nd August 2014, 12:15

Re: Proposal: Ru, god of balance and sacrifice

* Draw Out Power curing status effects is a good idea, and one I hadn't previously considered. Do you have a suggestion of which status effects it should clear? My first reaction would be poison, confusion, mesmerize, and petrify.


Doesn't it overlap with Ely purification?

To make it a little different you may consider to get rid of every status as a purge, either good or bad, but progressively to avoid instadeaths like vanishing flying on deep water/lava. More or less like the fading effects of resistance potion.
duvessa wrote:Christ, you can't remove anything without tavern complaining about it.

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Post Saturday, 2nd August 2014, 23:10

Re: Proposal: Ru, god of balance and sacrifice

I have been testing Ru for the past two days.

The game seems to be crashing after leaving Ru with this message:

ASSERT(divine_retribution(angry_gods[random2(angry_gods.size())])) in 'religion.cc' at line 4018 failed.

Sacrifice love:
The scroll of summoning didn't summon anything, which I assume is intended behaviour.

It also doesn't work on demonspawns summoned demonic guardians, but I will test this again because I am not 100% sure If I really sacrificed love.

I like this god, the active power are all strong. The power leap is not a good option to explore otherwise inaccesible places :lol: . Cataclysm killed most of the stuff that was around me and draw power saved me few times. The auras are fun, too. Especially paralysis on enemies.

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