Re: Vine Stalkers.
edit: looks like it already does this, albeit in a weird way, so nevermind.
Although the central place for design discussion is ##crawl-dev on freenode, some may find it helpful to discuss requests and suggestions here first.
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Implojin wrote:I just finished a VSMo of Dith. This was my first time playing with either Dithmengos or Vine Stalker.
Morgue here: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Implojin/morgue-Implojin-20140201-150149.txt
My major critique of this species is that my game played a hell of a lot like a Vampire with lower max HP. It was fun due to that low max HP, but it felt as though it lacked differentiation and thus VS isn't really sticking out in my mind as an amazing addition to the game. Crawl already has Vampires, Mummies, and multiple low max HP races. Vine Stalker has mix of penalties that make -cTele floors more dangerous than usual, but for the most part it doesn't play in a unique way.
A random idea I had, maybe when their MP is drained and their HP reaches a certain threshold (say 20-25% of their max, could be lower) their host body is destroyed. When this happens they lose their spirit shield and rot resistance, and start suffering rotting and stat loss at a rapid rate. The become an amorphous blob of vines/tentacles/whatever and can no longer maintain a solid form, leading to all of their armor and weapons melding into their body like a transfiguration spell. In this form they get some new mutations to compensate (say constriction for instance since it fits with the vine theme, not sure which mutations exactly to give them). The only way to stop/cure the stat loss/rotting and regain your form is to kill a foe and then inhabit it's body as your new host/power source. Since they feed off magic, killing a demon or undead would work for this too (and also not make this race worthless in extended.) This would fit pretty well with the "parasite" flavor (needs a host body to survive) and would add a lot of very tense moments when you bite off more than you can chew. Thoughts?
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goo wrote:Here's an idea I had earlier in the thread to help make them stand out more.
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Lasty wrote:Right now I've got a VSWn in progress that is wearing both troll leather and a ring of regeneration and knows the regeneration spell. It's pretty funny.
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Bart wrote:It is mana drain what makes VS really interesting, though. VS is a lot of fun when played as spellcaster dabbling with melee from time to time. Out of mana? Finish your opponent in melee! Not only will he suffer from antimagic, but you will gain precious mana without any items/gods you usually need.
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Lasty wrote:Right now I've got a VSWn in progress that is wearing both troll leather and a ring of regeneration and knows the regeneration spell. It's pretty funny.
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