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Tukima's dance
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variouselite wrote:would this disarm them? or does TD clone the weapon to create a dancing copy?
*edit* nvm silly question sorry
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Arrhythmia wrote:variouselite wrote:would this disarm them? or does TD clone the weapon to create a dancing copy?
*edit* nvm silly question sorry
I think it's worth considering. A lot of the danger of some uniques, e.g., Pikel, comes from their very dangerous weapons. If they don't/won't/can't pick the weapon back up, it would effectively neuter them, even if the weapon didn't kill them. Which would, of course, lead to endless "Mara-bread" strategies which would probably piss the blue-names right off.
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and into wrote:Also, other than Pikel, Sonja, and Psyche, what uniques are made dangerous *primarily* by their weapon? — I guess one could be very generous and count Rupert for half. And then Wiglaf and a few others I'm probably forgetting would be weakened if they fail to pick up another weapon. So this version of TD would be possibly useful against maybe 4 or 5 uniques, provided you have sufficient spell power. Alternately you could just carry around a few really good weapons and cast the current version of TD to get some good dancing weapon allies and kill them easily, especially if you haste the weapons.
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crate wrote:Enslave is level 4 and is way more OP than this hypothetical version of tukima so....
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and into wrote:This hypothetical version of Tukima could still be used in all the ways Tukima is used now, just in addition you could cast it at dudes. At first I had read it the same way, as being made so it only targets enemies, but I'm pretty sure what he means is that after casting you can target yourself for the usual effect, or hit an enemy with it. However the latter is so situational IMO and would require annoying e(x)amine use to take advantage of anyway that I'm not sure it would be worth changing. Somewhat tangential but still on topic, I would like to see the interface of TD improved though because I like the idea of the spell but find it a bit annoying to really try to take advantage of the spell on most characters who have found it.
and into wrote:crate wrote:Enslave is level 4 and is way more OP than this hypothetical version of tukima so....
This hypothetical version of Tukima could still be used in all the ways Tukima is used now, just in addition you could cast it at dudes. At first I had read it the same way, as being made so it only targets enemies, but I'm pretty sure what he means is that after casting you can target yourself for the usual effect, or hit an enemy with it.
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