Trog Spell Acquisition


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Post Saturday, 14th November 2020, 14:53

Trog Spell Acquisition

Trog worshipers are hardcoded to not pick up spellbooks to learn spells, but apparently doing so doesn't actually anger Trog, in which case Trog worshipers should always manually pick up spellbooks so that if they later abandon Trog, they won't have to backtrack to pick up all the spellbooks they left lying around. This is pointlessly tedious, so the hardcoding should be removed to allow Trog worshipers to automatically learn spells like other characters.
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Post Saturday, 14th November 2020, 16:24

Re: Trog Spell Acquisition

There seems to be a similar issue with Trog worshipers setting training targets for Spellcasting, which they may eventually wish to do if they're using guardian spirit. Edit: Nevermind, there apparently is a penalty for training Spellcasting, although it's easy to miss the warning message for this, as it doesn't occur when training is turned on, only when a skill level is gained.

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Post Saturday, 14th November 2020, 19:46

Re: Trog Spell Acquisition

Yeah, I've also suggested that spellbooks be auto-pickup for trog now that there's no point in *not* picking them up any more, I think it's just a narrow case that isn't given mutch attention.
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Post Sunday, 15th November 2020, 13:34

Re: Trog Spell Acquisition

Nekoatl wrote:There seems to be a similar issue with Trog worshipers setting training targets for Spellcasting, which they may eventually wish to do if they're using guardian spirit.

You can grow your guardian spirit (MP) by training evocations.
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Post Sunday, 15th November 2020, 14:57

Re: Trog Spell Acquisition

Or, I suppose, if people want to lean more into Trog's theme of hating all magic, instead of learning the spells when you pick up a spellbook, Trog grants either a big chunk of piety (if you're at low piety) or a god gift.

Makes him less friendly for switching to magic later, but also means that he hates magic more, and that finding spellbooks is once again good for Troglodytes.

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Post Sunday, 15th November 2020, 19:03

Re: Trog Spell Acquisition

Majang wrote:
Nekoatl wrote:There seems to be a similar issue with Trog worshipers setting training targets for Spellcasting, which they may eventually wish to do if they're using guardian spirit.

You can grow your guardian spirit (MP) by training evocations.

Evocations doesn't increase your max MP in trunk: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e ... cc79fe60ee
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Post Sunday, 15th November 2020, 20:56

Re: Trog Spell Acquisition

Siegurt wrote:Evocations doesn't increase your max MP in trunk: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/e ... cc79fe60ee

Oh, okay. Didn't know.
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Post Thursday, 19th November 2020, 20:53

Re: Trog Spell Acquisition

Aean wrote:Or, I suppose, if people want to lean more into Trog's theme of hating all magic, instead of learning the spells when you pick up a spellbook, Trog grants either a big chunk of piety (if you're at low piety) or a god gift.

Makes him less friendly for switching to magic later, but also means that he hates magic more, and that finding spellbooks is once again good for Troglodytes.


probably shouldn't do this since A: we don't need to buff trog by giving the god more piety and B: piety gains have been streamlined a ton over recent versions such that there are far fewer methods of gaining piety between different gods, and this simplicity is good

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