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CypherZel wrote:swords are mostly ineffective against heavy armour
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Sar wrote:CypherZel wrote:swords are mostly ineffective against heavy armour
just halfsword it
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Arrhythmia wrote:Alternatively: why not leave them as "better damage than other weapons but no gimmick"? That seems like a perfectly fine niche for M&F to occupy IMO.
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Arrhythmia wrote:I'm a little confused as to what you're saying; is it that having both eveningstars and demonwhips are a problem? If so, why is it a problem, and why isn't it a problem shared by LB (with demon blades and double blades)?
e: And how is it solved by adding a gimmick to M&F?
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CypherZel wrote:swords are mostly ineffective against heavy armour ( don't believe me just look it up).
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BabyRage wrote:CypherZel wrote:swords are mostly ineffective against heavy armour ( don't believe me just look it up).
I think I've read somewhere that some swords could be held by the blade and used as blunt weapons by hitting with handle. Please implement this in Crawl.
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Arrhythmia wrote:Alternatively: why not leave them as "better damage than other weapons but no gimmick"? That seems like a perfectly fine niche for M&F to occupy IMO.
CypherZel wrote:BabyRage wrote:CypherZel wrote:swords are mostly ineffective against heavy armour ( don't believe me just look it up).
I think I've read somewhere that some swords could be held by the blade and used as blunt weapons by hitting with handle. Please implement this in Crawl.
Like sar said, half swording
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Shard1697 wrote:This is essentially what "remove AC" would be anyways, just less fiddly and gimmicky.Arrhythmia wrote:Alternatively: why not leave them as "better damage than other weapons but no gimmick"? That seems like a perfectly fine niche for M&F to occupy IMO.
I am in favor of maces being simple and good. (note: maces are already simple and good)CypherZel wrote:BabyRage wrote:[quote="CypherZel"]swords are mostly ineffective against heavy armour ( don't believe me just look it up).
I think I've read somewhere that some swords could be held by the blade and used as blunt weapons by hitting with handle. Please implement this in Crawl.
Like sar said, half swording
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Arrhythmia wrote:Alternatively: why not leave them as "better damage than other weapons but no gimmick"? That seems like a perfectly fine niche for M&F to occupy IMO.
Arrhythmia wrote:Alternatively: why not leave them as "better damage than other weapons but no gimmick"? That seems like a perfectly fine niche for M&F to occupy IMO.
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duvessa wrote:The problem here is riposte is "better damage than other weapons but no gimmick" in disguise. So maces and long blades still don't have real differentiation.Arrhythmia wrote:Alternatively: why not leave them as "better damage than other weapons but no gimmick"? That seems like a perfectly fine niche for M&F to occupy IMO.
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duvessa wrote:The problem here is riposte is "better damage than other weapons but no gimmick" in disguise. So maces and long blades still don't have real differentiation.
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