Ammo Auto-Pickup & Restricted Brands


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Post Thursday, 2nd July 2015, 03:34

Ammo Auto-Pickup & Restricted Brands

Currently, there is no way to discriminate between what brands auto-pickup grabs in regards to ammo. If you choose to auto-pickup arrows, you will pick up all arrows regardless of brand. This isn't very annoying until you worship a god such as Dith or TSO who does not appreciate particular brands of ammo.

It would be extremely convenient if a player was either a) able to decide what brands of ammo to auto-grab or b) followers of Dith and TSO do not auto-pickup flame and poison ammo brands, respectively.
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Post Thursday, 2nd July 2015, 04:21

Re: Ammo Auto-Pickup & Restricted Brands

fun fact: tso doesn't mind you using poisoned ammo (or pretty much any other poison thing, like the Poison Arrow spell) if it doesn't actually poison the thing you hit, so you can use poisoned arrows against poison immune monsters safely
fun fact 2: dith doesn't mind you using flaming ammo if you cancel it out with a frost launcher, or a flaming launcher if you cancel it out with frost ammo
fun fact 3: i lied, neither of those facts are fun, they are dumb and need to be changed

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Post Thursday, 2nd July 2015, 06:27

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FR: Dith turns flaming ammo into regular ammo, likewise for TSO and poison ammo.
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Post Thursday, 2nd July 2015, 10:56

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duvessa wrote:fun fact: tso doesn't mind you using poisoned ammo (or pretty much any other poison thing, like the Poison Arrow spell) if it doesn't actually poison the thing you hit, so you can use poisoned arrows against poison immune monsters safely
fun fact 2: dith doesn't mind you using flaming ammo if you cancel it out with a frost launcher, or a flaming launcher if you cancel it out with frost ammo
fun fact 3: i lied, neither of those facts are fun, they are dumb and need to be changed
Fun fact 4: Even though the menu says he does, TSO doesn't actually mind Meph Cloud or Cure Poison, since they don't actually poison anything.
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Post Thursday, 2nd July 2015, 11:19

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This is clearly offtopic, but Cure poison isn't marked as prohibited by TSO. Moreover, with m.cloud you can even target sleeping\confused monster without incurring in penance, despite the game clearly warning of the contrary!
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Post Thursday, 2nd July 2015, 12:34

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I'm actually completely OK with it being the act of poisoning and igniting that offends the god. If you go to some lengths to use the defiled weapons in a chivalrous/shadowy way... that sounds like something TSO and Dith would like. It's more the descriptions that need to be changed to make that clear.
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Post Thursday, 2nd July 2015, 18:41

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Or we could remove these awkward restrictions that don't really create interesting decisions, have weird loopholes and exceptions, and do not mesh well with existing interface conveniences. TSO and Dith's restrictions are there for "flavor," which would be fine, except for all the problems they cause.

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Post Thursday, 2nd July 2015, 20:37

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Dith's restrictions are quite meaningful, especially in the early-mid game.

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Post Friday, 3rd July 2015, 03:58

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Rast wrote:Dith's restrictions are quite meaningful, especially in the early-mid game.


In the sense that they create interesting decisions, or in the sense that sometimes you find a good item or spell but can't use it because you worship Dith? I don't find the second one very interesting, personally, and that's y experience. There isn't much fire does that can't be replicated by other effects, so not being able to use fire mostly just seems to limit the potion of items I find that are useful.

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Post Friday, 3rd July 2015, 05:07

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In trunk you will automatically pick up ammo types that you already have in inventory. For instance if you carry plain arrows but not flaming arrows in inventory, you will autopickup plain arrows but not flaming ones. This only works works if the autopickup setting for that ammo type was not changed from the default.

This doesn't work if the autopickup setting for that type of item was changed from the default. For example, if you start as a hunter, it will autopickup all ammo of the type you started with, so what I described in the previous section won't work. To fix this, go to your autopickup menu and use Ctrl-D followed by the letter of the ammo, to restore the pickup to the default that I described in the previous section.
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Post Friday, 3rd July 2015, 11:05

Re: Ammo Auto-Pickup & Restricted Brands

Autopickup should allow you to pick what brands you want in an itemized way like potions, etc. Maybe some people think it's a good idea to carry bolts of every brand, but imo there are only a few that are worth carrying ever and I don't want to carry all the kinds I want to keep all the time to make autopickup work the way I want it to. E.g., I don't want to carry silver bolts all the time, but I do want to pick up any new sets of them I find.
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