Velocity Card should not equal Swiftness


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Post Wednesday, 8th January 2014, 18:56

Velocity Card should not equal Swiftness

Just drew a plain Velocity card from a deck. It essentially cast Swiftness, with the new penalty post-swiftness.

Being able to draw a Velocity Card, even with Nemelex stacking, is not ripe for "abuse" as casting consecutive Swiftness spells was.

In my opinion, Velocity should not be penalized with the post-swiftness cooldown period, adding value by making it distinct from the Swiftness spell.
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Post Thursday, 9th January 2014, 05:10

Re: Velocity Card should not equal Swiftness

What a serious proposal!

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Post Thursday, 9th January 2014, 05:12

Re: Velocity Card should not equal Swiftness

+1 for a proposal that actually has a chance of being implemented. Never thought I'd see the day!

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Post Thursday, 9th January 2014, 05:34

Re: Velocity Card should not equal Swiftness

Well if he'd done it right he would've just put it right on mantis without involving the tavern at all. I assume he came in here for the free thanks (and probably snarky comments) like the rest of us.

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Post Thursday, 9th January 2014, 05:50

Re: Velocity Card should not equal Swiftness

WalkerBoh wrote:Well if he'd done it right he would've just put it right on mantis without involving the tavern at all. I assume he came in here for the free thanks (and probably snarky comments) like the rest of us.

It's not a bug, so Mantis is not the right place for it and it would have been closed. (Unless you mean as a patch, in which case I would not push it because:)

I don't see anything wrong with Swiftness meaning the same thing wherever it occurs - decks already have a lot of inconsistent and hidden mechanics, and adding another one when there is no problem with the card's power level seems bad to me.

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Post Thursday, 9th January 2014, 07:03

Re: Velocity Card should not equal Swiftness

Then rename the card Swiftness.
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Post Thursday, 9th January 2014, 07:40

Re: Velocity Card should not equal Swiftness

Well if you want to be literal it should be called "Swiftness, Haste Or Both Depending On Power" card.

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Post Thursday, 9th January 2014, 09:42

Re: Velocity Card should not equal Swiftness

I don't really see what's inconsistent or hidden about "A card called velocity always makes you faster". What does seem unintuitive to me is that the 2 power version has a drawback that isn't present in the 1 power one, but I guess that applies to quite a few cards.

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Post Thursday, 9th January 2014, 12:01

Re: Velocity Card should not equal Swiftness

Leafsnail wrote:I don't really see what's inconsistent or hidden about "A card called velocity always makes you faster".


If you mean that Swiftness and Velocity being different isn't inconsistent, I think the fact that they both confer the same status effect (Swift) is relevant. You would have to rename the Velocity effect for "Swift" to be consistent. There are issues with that, first that adding features that add barely anything to the game complicates things unnecessarily, and second that the new Swiftness effect is simply more interesting from a tactical point of view than a pure buff. It isn't just good because it prevents chaining Swiftness.

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Post Thursday, 9th January 2014, 17:07

Re: Velocity Card should not equal Swiftness

Blind drawing from a deck of escape probably should not slow you. That's what the velocity card does if i'm more than a few steps from a staircase. The swiftness change was because castable swiftness was optimal to have on at all times, and that has nothing to do with the card.

Or, if that's too big of a change, just remove the velocity card completely.

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Post Thursday, 9th January 2014, 18:25

Re: Velocity Card should not equal Swiftness

"Blind drawing from decks sometimes has bad effects" is in fact a pretty common theme of decks, so no, that's not a problem or a reason to change it either.

Closing this.

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