confusion and brilliance


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Post Thursday, 25th April 2013, 16:35

confusion and brilliance

Here's an idea: potions of brilliance should cure confusion (and make you immune for the duration). This would be a great way to handle mephitic cloud and it would make potions of brilliance much more useful.
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Post Thursday, 25th April 2013, 17:10

Re: confusion and brilliance

Here's another idea: quaff brilliance before posting to GDD
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Post Thursday, 25th April 2013, 17:23

Re: confusion and brilliance

That idea actually sounds pretty good to me. Makes a lot of sense, and brilliance is currently very rarely useful (you need to jump through some hoops to even have a chance of it being good).

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Post Thursday, 25th April 2013, 17:57

Re: confusion and brilliance

Maybe Might and Agility should have similar changes so they fit the theme?
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Post Thursday, 25th April 2013, 18:15

Re: confusion and brilliance

It is a potion of brilliance, not a potion of curing or an amulet of clarity. It would be weird for brilliance to do this too.

That said, I find I never drink my brilliance potions. So maybe they are a bit underpowered? I definitely use might and agility though ...

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Post Thursday, 25th April 2013, 18:17

Re: confusion and brilliance

Brilliance is a good potion that A) Allows you to cast a spell significantly before you have invested enough XP to cast it otherwise and B) Drastically boosts your spell power.
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Post Thursday, 25th April 2013, 18:18

Re: confusion and brilliance

brilliance is really good if you use conjurations (acts a lot like might), and occasionally good for superwizardry on anyone else. (while your Minotaur is working on Haste, it might act like !speed,etc)
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Post Thursday, 25th April 2013, 19:15

Re: confusion and brilliance

blackcustard wrote:It is a potion of brilliance, not a potion of curing or an amulet of clarity. It would be weird for brilliance to do this too.

It's like the potion makes you so smart that you can't be confused. Makes sense, more or less.

blackcustard wrote:That said, I find I never drink my brilliance potions. So maybe they are a bit underpowered?

Yeah, I suspect they aren't used very often (even for casters); this change would make them very useful for almost everyone.
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Post Thursday, 25th April 2013, 19:37

Re: confusion and brilliance

The smartest people I know are probably also the most easily confused.
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Post Thursday, 25th April 2013, 19:44

Re: confusion and brilliance

drag0n wrote:
blackcustard wrote:It is a potion of brilliance, not a potion of curing or an amulet of clarity. It would be weird for brilliance to do this too.

It's like the potion makes you so smart that you can't be confused. Makes sense, more or less.

Does intelligence (the attribute) helps against confusion? No it doesn't. Does being smart (in RL) helps against alcohol intoxication (or any other chemical way to induce confusion)? No it doesn't. Does your proposal make any sense?
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Post Thursday, 25th April 2013, 19:50

Re: confusion and brilliance

that's because many confusion effects have a saving throw on fortitude or will and people with high int tend to have low wis and con.

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Post Thursday, 25th April 2013, 20:47

Re: confusion and brilliance

Brilliance helps you think clearly. Clarity protects against confusion. Makes sense to me.

Sure, you can argue about flavor either way. But I would like potions of brilliance to be more universally useful.

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Post Thursday, 25th April 2013, 22:21

Re: confusion and brilliance

Potions of brilliance are very strong, perhaps you should try using them.
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Post Thursday, 25th April 2013, 22:56

Re: confusion and brilliance

They're remarkably useful if, for example, you really need a hex to work the very next time you cast it. Haven't used them as much for damage dealing spells but I imagine the effect is similar.

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Post Thursday, 25th April 2013, 23:36

Re: confusion and brilliance

crate wrote:Potions of brilliance are very strong, perhaps you should try using them.

I have almost never used them for the spellpower boost, mostly for more success and sometimes to avoid memorizing low-level spells. An opportunity to use them rarely presents itself, at least to me. I will try to find more uses.
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Post Friday, 26th April 2013, 11:20

Re: confusion and brilliance

I also used to feel that potions of Brilliance weren't very good, but more than a few times I've been able to use them when I have Orb of Destruction at red 21% or freezing cloud at yellow 43% or whatever.

I think the problem with brilliance is that it doesn't *feel* that useful or tangible to most players, and that's just an issue with player perception -- not high priority to correct and hard to get into an ideal state.

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