Troll Monk of Nemelex advice?


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Post Sunday, 27th February 2011, 16:01

Troll Monk of Nemelex advice?

OK, so I am having way more fun with this build then I expected. Thanks Grimm, tormodpwns, yukuai and onetruefelid for suggesting it! It sure is a good break from trying to get my AEs up and running... :D

Glark's gotten lucky with some drops (despite by belliaching, the RNGs finally came through): inviso cloak, rage ring, amulet of faith(!), storm disc, party trick and starter fire book, rE robe.

Re decks: I sacrificed only corpses and armor to Nemelex all game. My guess is that the ratio is at about 75%/25%. Just now, after having gotten a good stash of heavy summoners and stack deck, I've started giving Nemelex excess potions. Come on Legendary Wonder Deck!

I could use some advice on what to do with my xp. For some reason, Glark has over 10k xp and it just keep stacking up. I've tried dumping a bunch of it into Evoc with that storm disc but it was slow going and doesn't seem to effect my decks much.

Also, I assume this Bullseye Shield is a bad idea? What about the EV skill in general? On or off?

Thanks in advance!

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.8.0-a0-5384-g71eabdf character file.

Glark the Grappler (Troll Monk)                                                Turns: 17896, Time: 04:10:07

HP 114/114       AC 10     Str 26      Exp: 12/32274 (10552), need: 11225
MP   4/4         EV 13     Int  8      God: Nemelex Xobeh [*****.]
Gold 488         SH  0     Dex 12      Spells:  0 memorised, 11 levels left

Res.Fire  : . . .   See Invis. : .     - Unarmed
Res.Cold  : x . .   Warding    : .   K - +2 robe {MR}
Life Prot.: . . .   Conserve   : .   (shield restricted)
Res.Acid. : . . .   Res.Corr.  : .   Q - +0 cap
Res.Poison: .       Clarity    : .   t - +2 orc cloak {darkness}
Res.Elec. : .       Spirit.Shd : .   (gloves unavailable)
Sust.Abil.: . .     Stasis     : .   (boots unavailable)
Res.Mut.  : .       Ctrl.Telep.: .   h - amulet of faith
Res.Rott. : .       Levitation : .   J - ring "Crikhlaj" {+Rage rC- MR}
Gourmand  : +       Ctrl.Flight: .   y - ring of sustenance

@: very resistant to hostile enchantments, fairly stealthy
A: unfitting armour, claws 3, fast metabolism 3, gourmand, regeneration 2, saprovore 2, tough skin 2, AC
+1, Int +2
a: Draw One, Peek at Two, Triple Draw, Mark Four, Stack Five, Renounce Religion, Evoke Berserk Rage, Evoke
Invisibility


You are on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Nemelex Xobeh.
Nemelex Xobeh is exalted by your worship.
You are very full.

You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 14 of its levels.
You have visited 1 portal chamber: sewer.

You have collected 537 gold pieces.
You have spent 49 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 D - a +1,+2 orcish hand axe of returning (quivered)
 F - an uncursed giant club
Armour
 i - the +1 robe "Samecah" {rElec Stlth-- Curse}
   (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon)   
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It may recurse itself.
   It makes you much less stealthy.
 m - the +15 shield "Bullseye" {EV-5}
   (You found it on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   It affects your evasion (-5).
 t - a +2 orcish cloak of darkness (worn)
 K - a +2 robe of magic resistance (worn)
 Q - a +0 cap (worn)
Magical devices
 g - a wand of confusion {empty}
 r - a wand of paralysis {empty}
 C - a wand of cold {zapped: 8}
Comestibles
 j - a bread ration
 s - 5 royal jellies
Scrolls
 d - a scroll of amnesia
 f - a scroll of fog
 k - a scroll of identify
 l - 2 scrolls of remove curse
 p - 3 scrolls of teleportation
Jewellery
 h - an amulet of faith (around neck)
 x - an uncursed amulet of conservation
 y - a ring of sustenance (left hand)
 H - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
 J - the ring "Crikhlaj" (right hand) {+Rage rC- MR}
   (You found it on level 6 of the Dungeon)   
   [ring of protection from magic]
   It makes you vulnerable to cold.
   It lets you go berserk.
Potions
 a - 3 potions of healing
 S - a potion of might
Books
 o - a book of Conjurations [fire+earth]   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Magic Dart                         Conjuration                  1
   Throw Flame                        Conjuration/Fire             2
   Stone Arrow                        Conjuration/Earth            3
   Conjure Flame                      Conjuration/Fire             3
   Bolt of Magma                      Conjuration/Fire/Earth       5
   Fireball                           Conjuration/Fire             6
   
Miscellaneous
 c - a disc of storms
 e - an ornate deck of summonings {drawn: 11} {god gift}
 n - an ornate deck of summonings {drawn: 1} {god gift}
 v - an ornate deck of summonings {drawn: 6} {god gift}
 z - an ornate deck of summonings {drawn: 1} {god gift}
 G - a legendary deck of summonings {drawn: 6} {god gift}
 W - a legendary deck of summonings {drawn: 4} {god gift}
 Y - a plain deck of escape {drawn: 1} {god gift}
 Z - a plain deck of escape {drawn: 2} {god gift}


 You have 10552 experience left.

   Skills:
 + Level 9 Fighting
 + Level 2 Maces & Flails
 + Level 3 Throwing
 + Level 8 Dodging
 + Level 3 Stealth
 - Level 1 Stabbing
 + Level 2 Traps & Doors
 + Level 12 Unarmed Combat
 + Level 5 Evocations


You have 11 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (8/27)             Temple (1/1) D:5             Orc (0/4) D:6
   Lair (5/8) D:8           Swamp (0/5) Lair:3     
Shoals: Lair:3-6     Snake: Lair:3-6   

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
The Shining One
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin

Shops:
D:5: +  D:6: [


                    Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are too large for most types of armour.
You have claws for hands.
Your metabolism is lightning-fast.
You like to eat raw meat.
You heal very quickly.
You can eat rotten meat.
You are covered in fur (AC +1).
You have very tough skin (AC +2).
Your mind is acute (Int +2).


Message History

You start putting on your armour.
You continue putting on the +15 shield "Bullseye" {EV-5}.
You finish putting on the +15 shield "Bullseye" {EV-5}.
You start removing your armour.
You continue taking off the +15 shield "Bullseye" {EV-5}.
You finish taking off the +15 shield "Bullseye" {EV-5}.
Char dumped to 'morgue/Glark.txt'.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  A hydra (Lair:5)
  A griffon (Lair:4)
  Pikel (D:7)
  8 elephants (Lair:5)
  3 spiny frogs
  A troll (D:8)
  4 komodo dragons
  8 blink frogs
  5 giant toads
  8 yaks
  Edmund (D:7)
  A bear (Lair:4)
  Eustachio (D:8)
  2 hippogriffs
  A fire drake (Lair:5)
  A necrophage (D:6)
  11 war dogs
  A sky beast (D:7)
  2 black bears
  A slave (D:7)
  3 orc warriors
  A giant goldfish (D:8)
  An ice beast (D:7)
  A centaur (D:8)
  2 ogres (D:7)
  6 gila monsters
  A yellow wasp (Lair:4)
  A warg (D:6)
  4 crocodiles
  4 giant slugs
  3 water moccasins
  A yellow wasp zombie (D:7)
  3 agate snails
  5 giant frogs
  10 killer bees
  7 jellyfish (Lair:1)
  4 electric eels (Lair:1)
  A goliath beetle (D:7)
  2 imps (D:6)
  11 hounds
  Crazy Yiuf (D:5)
  4 orc priests
  A big fish (D:8)
  5 orc wizards
  3 iguanas
  3 worker ants
  3 porcupines
  6 sheep (Lair:2)
  A jelly (D:6)
  17 snakes
  8 gnolls (D:5)
  31 green rats
  4 giant mites
  19 grey rats
  3 giant geckos
  4 oozes
  4 giant cockroaches
  12 hobgoblins
  8 jackals
  14 kobolds
  18 megabats
  31 orcs
  9 quokkas
  6 giant newts
  13 goblins
  4 killer bee larvae
  An orc skeleton (D:7)
  An orc zombie (D:6)
  21 rats
  A rat zombie (D:8)
  13 small snakes
  A bush (Lair:2)
  A fungus (Lair:2)
  4 plants
  3 toadstools
411 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  A spriggan druid (Lair:4)
  A hydra (Lair:5)
  Erolcha (D:8)
  3 elephants (Lair:5)
  A spiny frog (Lair:5)
  3 queen bees
  An ugly thing (Lair:4)
  A polar bear (Lair:3)
  A komodo dragon (Lair:5)
  3 giant toads (Lair:5)
  3 blink frogs
  A bumblebee (Lair:4)
  3 bears (Lair:4)
  2 hippogriffs
  5 yaks
  A hungry ghost (D:8)
  3 war dogs
  A black bear (Lair:4)
  2 gila monsters
  5 giant goldfish (D:8)
  A boring beetle (D:6)
  A yak skeleton (Lair:5)
  2 crocodiles
  A giant slug (Lair:3)
  2 wolves (Lair:4)
  A water moccasin (Lair:1)
  5 giant frogs
  50 killer bees
  A scorpion (D:8)
  2 porcupines (Lair:5)
  An orc wizard (D:6)
  2 jellies (D:8)
  9 green rats (Lair:3)
  A lemure (D:8)
  A megabat zombie (D:6)
  A hobgoblin (D:8)
  4 megabats
  2 orcs (D:6)
  5 killer bee larvae
  A butterfly (Lair:3)
  A fungus (Lair:5)
  2 plants
138 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A skeletal warrior (Lair:4)
  A hydra zombie (Lair:5)
  3 dancing weapons
  A hydra skeleton (Lair:3)
  2 giant toad zombies (Lair:5)
  A grizzly bear (Lair:2)
  5 ugly things
  A spiny frog skeleton (Lair:3)
  4 bumblebees
  2 hogs (Lair:3)
  3 war dogs (Lair:4)
  4 insubstantial wisps
  A cyclops skeleton (D:6)
  A slave (D:7)
  A yak zombie (Lair:5)
  A yak skeleton (Lair:4)
  A wolf (Lair:2)
  A giant frog skeleton (Lair:4)
  5 killer bee zombies (Lair:4)
  A hound (Lair:2)
  A crocodile skeleton (Lair:3)
  An iron imp (Lair:4)
  2 lemures
  3 shadow imps
  An ooze (D:2)
  A goblin (D:6)
  A megabat (Lair:2)
  An orc (D:6)
  A killer bee larva zombie (Lair:4)
  A butterfly (Lair:5)
  4 fungi
  2 plants (Lair:4)
  5 toadstools
64 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 613 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place   | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1     | Glark, the Troll Monk, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1     | Reached XP level 1. HP: 16/16 MP: 0/0
   179 | D:1     | Reached XP level 2. HP: 23/23 MP: 0/0
   738 | D:2     | Reached XP level 3. HP: 31/31 MP: 1/1
  1067 | D:2     | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
  1985 | D:4     | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
  2045 | D:4     | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
  2079 | D:4     | Reached XP level 4. HP: 33/38 MP: 1/1
  2093 | D:4     | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
  2138 | D:4     | Reached XP level 5. HP: 30/46 MP: 1/1
  2154 | D:4     | Reached skill level 5 in Unarmed Combat
  2219 | D:4     | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  2751 | D:5     | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  2773 | D:5     | Found a glowing drain.
  2827 | D:5     | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  2831 | Temple  | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  2930 | Temple  | Became a worshipper of Nemelex Xobeh
  3010 | D:5     | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
  3020 | sewer   | Entered the sewers
  3031 | sewer   | Reached skill level 1 in Stealth
  3088 | sewer   | Reached XP level 6. HP: 47/54 MP: 2/2
  3565 | sewer   | Reached XP level 7. HP: 19/62 MP: 2/2
  3570 | sewer   | Acquired Nemelex Xobeh's first power
  3570 | sewer   | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
  3815 | D:5     | Found Calaci's Book Shop.
  3980 | D:5     | Gained mutation: Your mind is acute (Int +1).
  4153 | D:5     | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  4354 | D:5     | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
  4421 | D:5     | Noticed Crazy Yiuf
  4512 | D:5     | Defeated Crazy Yiuf
  4647 | D:6     | Noticed a bumblebee
  4647 | D:6     | Noticed a bumblebee
  4702 | D:6     | Noticed a boring beetle
  4713 | D:6     | Defeated a boring beetle
  4796 | D:6     | Reached skill level 6 in Unarmed Combat
  4809 | D:6     | Acquired Nemelex Xobeh's second power
  4877 | D:6     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
  4925 | D:6     | Reached XP level 8. HP: 48/71 MP: 2/2
  5018 | D:6     | Found Shrinlat's Antique Armour Boutique.
  5022 | D:6     | Bought a glowing robe for 23 gold pieces
  5022 | D:6     | Bought a runed orcish cloak for 26 gold pieces
  5378 | D:6     | Got a warped turquoise ring
  5620 | D:6     | Identified the ring "Crikhlaj" {+Rage} (You found it on level 6 of the Dungeon)
  6026 | D:7     | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  6194 | D:7     | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
  6552 | D:7     | Noticed Edmund
  6552 | D:7     | Noticed Pikel
  6555 | D:7     | Defeated Edmund
  6555 | D:7     | Reached XP level 9. HP: 61/81 MP: 3/3
  6555 | D:7     | Defeated Pikel
  6775 | D:7     | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
  6846 | D:7     | Got a crude robe
  6903 | D:7     | Identified the +1 robe "Samecah" (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon)
  7298 | D:8     | Got an engraved book
  7299 | D:8     | Identified Margery's Papyrus of Fire (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)
  7500 | D:8     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
  7503 | D:8     | Reached skill level 7 in Unarmed Combat
  7523 | D:8     | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
  7572 | Lair:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
  7632 | D:8     | Noticed Eustachio
  7645 | D:8     | Defeated Eustachio
  7645 | D:8     | Reached XP level 10. HP: 73/89 MP: 3/3
  7668 | D:8     | Noticed Erolcha
  7677 | D:8     | Defeated Erolcha
  7963 | D:8     | Reached skill level 8 in Unarmed Combat
  8196 | Lair:1  | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
  8346 | Lair:1  | Reached skill level 1 in Maces & Flails
  8364 | Lair:1  | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
  9995 | Lair:1  | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 10232 | Lair:2  | Reached skill level 1 in Stabbing
 10840 | Lair:2  | Reached XP level 11. HP: 57/101 MP: 3/3
 11131 | Lair:2  | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 11134 | Lair:2  | Noticed a bumblebee
 11435 | Lair:3  | Acquired Nemelex Xobeh's third power
 11560 | Lair:3  | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 11598 | Lair:3  | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 11822 | Lair:3  | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing
 11971 | Lair:3  | Reached skill level 1 in Traps & Doors
 12433 | Lair:3  | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
 12820 | Lair:3  | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 13134 | Lair:3  | Reached skill level 9 in Unarmed Combat
 13212 | Lair:3  | Acquired Nemelex Xobeh's fourth power
 13212 | Lair:3  | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 13441 | Lair:4  | Noticed a yellow wasp
 13446 | Lair:4  | Defeated a yellow wasp
 13515 | Lair:4  | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 13552 | Lair:4  | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 14130 | Lair:4  | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 14332 | Lair:4  | Acquired Nemelex Xobeh's fifth power
 15092 | Lair:4  | Reached skill level 7 in Dodging
 15196 | Lair:4  | Gained mutation: Your mind is acute (Int +2).
 15398 | Lair:1  | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 15439 | Lair:1  | Reached skill level 4 in Evocations
 15617 | Lair:4  | Reached skill level 3 in Stealth
 15633 | Lair:4  | Reached skill level 10 in Unarmed Combat
 15831 | Lair:4  | Noticed a bumblebee
 15831 | Lair:4  | Noticed a bumblebee
 15865 | Lair:4  | Defeated a bumblebee
 15884 | Lair:4  | Noticed a bumblebee
 15884 | Lair:4  | Noticed a bumblebee
 15993 | Lair:4  | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations
 16103 | Lair:5  | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 16112 | Lair:5  | Reached XP level 12. HP: 112/112 MP: 4/4
 16653 | Lair:5  | Reached skill level 2 in Traps & Doors
 16698 | Lair:5  | Got a round shield
 16808 | Lair:5  | Received a gift from Nemelex Xobeh
 16920 | Lair:4  | Reached skill level 3 in Throwing
 17175 | Lair:5  | Reached skill level 8 in Dodging
 17187 | Lair:5  | Reached skill level 11 in Unarmed Combat
 17381 | Lair:5  | Reached skill level 9 in Fighting
 17618 | Lair:5  | Reached skill level 12 in Unarmed Combat
 17878 | Lair:5  | Identified the +15 shield "Bullseye" (You found it on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts)
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D:3 exclusion: Sigmund

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Joined: Friday, 17th December 2010, 18:17

Post Sunday, 27th February 2011, 17:49

Re: Troll Monk of Nemelex advice?

Traps and Doors is pretty handy later in the dungeon when Zot traps start showing up, so I always get at least four levels in it with any character I play. Ctrl-F "trap", go to an area with lots of traps and disarm them. Also yeah, spam the disc and wands and toss plain cards out like candy in order to get the Evocations up.

I don't use weapons or shields with these guys so I'm not sure if that shield will hinder you in any way or not.

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