What stuff to use and how to proceed?

[Mankeli]

Oh really? Thats good to know, so I can do each from 1-4 then, and then prehaps move into D22 afterwards.

Yeah, if going gets too tough in D it's time to hit the easy lair branches and clear them from 1-4 and/or do vaults 1-4. Personally, I like to do snake/spider and swamp/shoals 1-4 before touching vaults nowdays unless I get some kind unique meeting with dangerous participants in like snake:1 or something.

[Link]

Okay, So I hit XL 18, and am at 23.1 Fighting, 15 Shield (Large Eleven Shield and like 16 Armour) Focused on fighting and Armour and probably gonna start dodging. Would I be ready to hit the vaults, or should I go deeper in the main dungeon?

[Link]

Okay, So just cleared all of dungeon and am doing vaults, any general advice on what to use, do, or what next?

  Code:

 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.13-a0-3016-gcb2faac (webtiles) character file.

Link the Conqueror (Gargoyle Berserker)            Turns: 58943, Time: 05:15:30

HP 166/166       AC 61     Str 31      XL: 22   Next:  7%
MP  21/21        EV  5     Int  7 (8)  God: Trog [*****.]
Gold 2710        SH 45     Dex  9      Spells:  0 memorised, 21 levels left

Res.Fire  : . . .   See Invis. : .   a - +8,+10 demon whip "Naivi" {drain, +Inv rPo
Res.Cold  : . . .   Warding    : .   L - +5 crystal plate armour
Life Prot.: + + .   Conserve   : .   G - +0 large shield
Res.Poison: +       Res.Corr.  : .   (helmet restricted)
Res.Elec. : +       Clarity    : .   v - +2 elf cloak
Sust.Abil.: . .     Spirit.Shd : .   W - +2 pair of bracers {archer}
Res.Mut.  : +       Stasis     : .   g - +1 pair of boots "Croan" {rN+}
Res.Rott. : +       Flight     : .   y - amulet of resist mutation
Saprovore : . . .                    X - ring of regeneration
                                     b - +6,+5 ring of slaying

@: extremely resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: large and strong wings, fangs 1, horns 1, talons 2, blink 1, life protection
1, electricity resistance, slow metabolism 1, unbreathing, petrification
resistance, AC +18, SH +2
a: Fly, Blink, Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce
Religion, Evoke Invisibility


You are on level 3 of the Vaults.
You worship Trog.
Trog is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 7 branches of the dungeon, and seen 51 of its levels.

You have collected 5855 gold pieces.
You have spent 3165 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 a - the +8,+10 demon whip "Naivi" (weapon) {drain, +Inv rPois MR++}
   (You found it on level 9 of the Dungeon)   
   
   A truly terrible weapon, it drains the life of those it strikes.
   
   It protects you from poison.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It lets you turn invisible.
 k - a +0,+0 great sword of flaming
 r - a +1,+3 orcish dagger of venom (quivered)
 x - a +4,+1 demon whip of freezing
 T - a +1,+1 vampiric demon whip
Armour
 g - the +1 pair of boots "Croan" (worn) {rN+}
   (You found it on level 10 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It protects you from negative energy.
 v - a +2 elven cloak (worn)
 G - a +0 large shield (worn)
 L - a +5 crystal plate armour (worn)
 W - a +2 pair of bracers of archery (worn)
Magical devices
 n - a wand of fireball
 A - a wand of digging (24)
 B - a wand of fireball (8)
 J - a wand of confusion (9)
 P - a wand of digging (24)
 Q - a wand of paralysis (12)
 R - a wand of disintegration (8)
Comestibles
 c - 12 bread rations
Scrolls
 i - a scroll of remove curse
 p - a scroll of blinking
 u - 2 scrolls of enchant weapon II
 w - a scroll of teleportation
Jewellery
 b - a +6,+5 ring of slaying (left hand)
 f - the ring "Meanade" {Wiz rN+ Int+1 Dam+3 Stlth++}
   (You took it off a yaktaur on level 25 of the Dungeon)   
   
   [ring of wizardry]
   It affects your intelligence (+1).
   It affects your damage-dealing abilities (+3).
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It makes you much more stealthy.
 h - an uncursed ring of protection from magic
 m - the ring "Cussarch" {Ice Str+3 Int+3}
   (You found it on level 26 of the Dungeon)   
   
   [ring of ice]
   It affects your strength (+3).
   It affects your intelligence (+3).
 o - an uncursed amulet of resist corrosion
 t - an uncursed ring of ice
 y - an amulet of resist mutation (around neck)
 z - an uncursed ring of protection from cold
 F - an uncursed amulet of rage
 H - an uncursed ring of protection from magic
 I - an uncursed amulet of guardian spirit
 X - a ring of regeneration (right hand)
Potions
 d - a potion of agility
 e - 2 potions of magic
 j - 3 potions of restore abilities
 l - 16 potions of curing
 q - 2 potions of speed
 s - 3 potions of invisibility
 D - 4 potions of might
 E - a potion of brilliance


   Skills:
 O Level 27 Fighting
 + Level 12.6 Maces & Flails
 + Level 19.9 Armour
 * Level 7.2 Dodging
 - Level 15.0 Shields
 - Level 0.6 Evocations


You have 21 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (27/27)            Temple (1/1) D:6             Orc (4/4) D:10
    Elf (0/3) Orc:4          Lair (8/8) D:12         Shoals (4/5) Lair:6
 Spider (4/5) Lair:6        Slime (0/6) Lair:6       Vaults (3/5) D:15
    Zot (0/5) D:27         Forest (0/5) Vaults:2   
 Blade: Vaults:3-4 

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
the Shining One
Beogh
Jiyva

Shops:
D:4 }   D:5 =   D:10 ?   D:14 *%   D:20 %   Orc:3 }   Orc:4 ?!+(*!
Shoals:3 *

Portals:
Hell: D:21 D:22 D:23 D:24 D:25 D:26 D:27
Abyss: D:24 D:25 D:26
Pandemonium: D:24
Trove: D:14 (give 2 scrolls of acquirement)
Sewer: D:4

Annotations:
D:12 Lair!
Orc:3 Sonja
Lair:2 My Stash, Near Down Stairs


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are resistant to torment.
You are immune to poison.
You can fly continuously.
Your stone body is very resilient (AC +16).
Your wings are large and strong.
You have very sharp teeth.
You have razor-sharp toenails.
You resist negative energy.
You are resistant to electric shocks.
You have a slow metabolism.
You can survive without breathing.
You are immune to petrification.
You have a pair of small horns on your head.
You are partially covered in large bone plates (AC +2, SH +2).
You can translocate small distances at will.


Message History

There is an open door here.
Things that are here:
an orcish battleaxe; an orcish plate armour
Things that are here:
a runed flail; an orcish plate armour; a human skeleton
Things that are here:
a runed dire flail; a scale mail
Done exploring.
Things that are here:
a runed dire flail; a scale mail
Things that are here:
a runed flail; an orcish plate armour; a human skeleton
There is an open door here.
Things that are here:
an orcish battleaxe; an orcish plate armour
You see here an ugly thing skeleton.
There is a large open door here.
There is a stone staircase leading down, spattered with blood here.
You climb downwards.
There is a stone staircase leading up here.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  A golden dragon (D:26)
  Norris (D:15)
  The ghost of walerik the Warrior, a mighty DsFi of Okawaru (D:20)
  Arachne (Spider:4)
  A lich (D:26)
  4 titans
  A shadow dragon (D:19)
  Roxanne (Spider:1)
  2 storm dragons (D:26)
  7 tengu reavers
  Kirke (Spider:4)
  Agnes (D:19)
  A kraken (Shoals:3)
  Wiglaf (D:25)
  A deep elf sorcerer (Vaults:2)
  A vault warden (Vaults:2)
  11 fire giants
  14 frost giants
  A sphinx (Vaults:2)
  33 stone giants
  Louise (Shoals:4)
  An emperor scorpion (Spider:4)
  An orc warlord (D:27)
  Azrael (Spider:2)
  Maud (Lair:3)
  A grey draconian (D:27)
  The ghost of heteroy the Severer, a powerful MiAM of Okawaru (D:13)
  3 dire elephants (Lair:8)
  A mottled draconian (D:27)
  An ancient bear (shapeshifter) (D:27)
  The ghost of Fumblefoot the Cleaver, a powerful DsBe of Trog (D:13)
  6 dragons
  34 yaktaur captains
  A siren (Shoals:1)
  8 hydras
  5 great orbs of eyes
  A ravenous item mimic (D:19)
  Fannar (D:12)
  A merfolk aquamancer (Shoals:4)
  An ice dragon (D:20)
  8 ettins
  Erica (Shoals:1)
  3 ironheart preservers
  A dancing weapon (D:19)
  6 deep troll shamans
  Josephine (D:12)
  10 ogre magi
  Harold (D:12)
  6 rakshasas
  An anaconda (Lair:8)
  A dryad (shapeshifter) (D:22)
  A fire crab (D:22)
  Urug (D:11)
  13 centaur warriors
  A storm dragon zombie (D:22)
  3 death yaks (Lair:8)
  23 deep trolls
  A fire crab (shapeshifter) (D:27)
  7 skeletal warriors
  6 deep troll earth magi
  6 very ugly things
  A storm dragon skeleton (D:19)
  4 deep elf knights
  7 hell knights
  3 iron trolls
  5 sea snakes
  7 flayed ghosts
  A lindwurm (shapeshifter) (D:24)
  Pikel (D:6)
  5 wizards (D:25)
  11 harpies
  A sphinx zombie (D:19)
  4 unseen horrors
  A frost giant zombie (D:22)
  A fire giant zombie (D:22)
  4 stone giant zombies
  3 orc sorcerers
  2 phantasmal warriors (D:26)
  6 giant amoebae
  Erolcha (Orc:3)
  21 wolf spiders
  A sphinx skeleton (D:19)
  9 red wasps
  2 small abominations
  4 frost giant skeletons
  10 stone giant skeletons
  2 ironbrand convokers (Vaults:2)
  8 cyclopes
  6 spiny worms
  16 hill giants
  3 fire giant skeletons
  Maurice (D:9)
  2 necromancers
  A smoke demon (D:22)
  4 vapours (D:25)
  4 vault sentinels
  17 orc knights
  A deep elf summoner (D:19)
  A storm dragon simulacrum (D:22)
  Psyche (D:11)
  7 black mambas
  A hydra zombie (D:16)
  11 orb spiders
  An iron troll zombie (D:19)
  6 griffons
  12 elephants
  77 yaktaurs
  2 fire drakes
  19 demonic crawlers
  2 iron troll skeletons
  A spriggan (shapeshifter) (D:15)
  7 mermaids
  5 deep elf priests
  5 trolls
  A red devil (Vaults:2)
  A hydra skeleton (D:12)
  7 komodo dragons
  2 harpy skeletons (D:19)
  45 slime creatures
  9 jumping spiders
  A slime creature (shapeshifter) (D:26)
  12 two-headed ogres
  6 spiny frogs
  A guardian serpent (shapeshifter) (D:16)
  4 humans (D:15)
  3 basilisks
  A basilisk (shapeshifter) (D:18)
  A boulder beetle (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2)
  14 blink frogs
  2 griffon skeletons
  A griffon zombie (D:19)
  2 ettin skeletons
  3 shadows
  A redback (shapeshifter) (D:27)
  A grizzly bear (shapeshifter) (D:22)
  18 tarantellas
  2 water elementals
  A polar bear (Lair:8)
  8 snapping turtles
  27 vampire mosquitoes
  2 wraiths
  3 hogs (Spider:4)
  7 hippogriffs
  3 deep elf magi (D:24)
  2 vampires (D:16)
  A neqoxec (D:27)
  25 merfolk
  A tarantella (shapeshifter) (D:19)
  A grizzly bear (Lair:4)
  2 hill giant zombies
  12 boulder beetles
  A snapping turtle (shapeshifter) (D:27)
  55 yaks
  A hill giant skeleton (D:16)
  23 redbacks
  A deep troll zombie (D:24)
  An elephant slug (Lair:8)
  8 trapdoor spiders
  3 soldier ants
  3 hungry ghosts
  2 rock worms
  A necrophage (D:13)
  138 ugly things
  4 mottled dragons
  10 manticores
  6 ice beasts
  4 deep troll skeletons
  15 sharks
  35 ogres
  6 wolves (Lair:5)
  2 hell hounds (Spider:2)
  3 wyverns
  7 freezing wraiths
  A hippogriff (shapeshifter) (D:20)
  9 deep elf fighters
  3 giant goldfish
  5 phantoms
  6 sky beasts
  6 porcupines
  3 black bears
  A yellow wasp (shapeshifter) (D:17)
  A deep dwarf (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
  4 boring beetles
  10 centaurs
  A steam dragon (D:11)
  Sigmund (D:6)
  Duvessa (Orc:1)
  A fire crab zombie (D:15)
  4 wargs
  A gnoll sergeant (D:6)
  10 crocodiles
  5 big kobolds
  A yaktaur zombie (D:20)
  2 brain worms
  18 giant frogs
  A brain worm (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2)
  A wyvern zombie (D:12)
  A yaktaur skeleton (D:19)
  11 water moccasins
  8 agate snails
  An eye of draining (shapeshifter) (D:22)
  37 orc warriors
  A cyclops skeleton (D:10)
  A boulder beetle zombie (Vaults:2)
  15 giant slugs
  2 hippogriff zombies
  A yak zombie (D:7)
  12 killer bees
  4 electric eels (D:13)
  4 jellies
  An eye of draining (D:17)
  6 goliath beetles
  A yak skeleton (D:9)
  11 crimson imps
  Dowan (Orc:1)
  2 big fish
  3 centaur skeletons
  A soldier ant zombie (D:12)
  27 spiders
  2 two-headed ogre zombies
  A yaktaur simulacrum (D:19)
  9 hounds
  3 quasits
  13 orc priests
  10 scorpions
  A basilisk skeleton (D:13)
  A rock worm simulacrum (D:17)
  8 iguanas
  33 orc wizards
  8 sheep (Lair:6)
  A two-headed ogre skeleton (D:12)
  A troll simulacrum (D:12)
  A statue (D:6)
  18 worker ants
  4 boggarts
  An ogre skeleton (D:5)
  A mottled dragon skeleton (D:12)
  A worker ant zombie (D:5)
  21 adders
  73 green rats
  3 giant centipedes
  6 gnolls
  A worm zombie (D:5)
  6 giant mites
  7 worms
  2 ufetubi (D:21)
  2 iguana skeletons
  A giant eyeball (D:14)
  14 giant geckos
  7 oozes
  142 orcs
  A ball python (D:3)
  35 bats
  A bat zombie (D:5)
  3 giant cockroaches
  13 goblins
  17 hobgoblins
  32 jackals
  32 kobolds
  16 quokkas
  2 giant newts
  44 illusory rakshasas
  2 kobold skeletons
  An orc zombie (D:22)
  2 quokka skeletons
  23 rats
  A spectral orc (D:4)
  6 ballistomycetes (D:15)
  A bush (Lair:4)
  4 fungi
  14 plants
  A tentacle (Shoals:3)
2057 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  Margery (D:24)
  A golden dragon (D:26)
  A tentacled monstrosity (D:19)
  A titan (D:26)
  Rupert (D:15)
  A shadow dragon (D:27)
  A draconian zealot (D:27)
  A stone giant (D:25)
  A green draconian (D:27)
  A yellow draconian (D:27)
  A black draconian (D:27)
  2 dragons
  Snorg (D:15)
  3 yaktaur captains
  7 ogre magi
  2 centaur warriors (D:19)
  A soul eater (D:27)
  4 hell knights
  A giant amoeba (shapeshifter) (D:19)
  An orc knight (D:21)
  A necromancer (D:26)
  An orc sorcerer (D:21)
  A sixfirhy (D:27)
  13 humans (D:15)
  17 two-headed ogres
  A demonic crawler (Spider:2)
  An orb spider (Spider:2)
  5 yaktaurs
  A troll (D:15)
  A jumping spider (Spider:4)
  3 redbacks (Spider:4)
  A tarantella (Spider:4)
  A trapdoor spider (Spider:2)
  2 fire elementals (Spider:2)
  A yak (D:19)
  A wraith (D:19)
  11 ugly things
  3 giant goldfish (Spider:2)
  4 orc warriors
  36 ogres
  A komodo dragon zombie (D:15)
  2 yaktaur zombies
  An eye of draining (D:15)
  A jellyfish (Spider:2)
  A crimson imp (D:15)
  A boring beetle zombie (D:19)
  5 spiders (Spider:4)
  2 orc wizards
  2 worker ants (D:8)
  A big kobold skeleton (D:15)
  A giant centipede (D:19)
  An ufetubus (D:21)
  8 orcs
  A jackal (D:8)
  2 kobolds (D:8)
  2 illusory rakshasas (D:25)
170 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A tengu reaver (D:25)
  2 iron trolls
  A deep troll (D:15)
  2 hill giants (Orc:4)
  A frost giant skeleton (D:23)
  3 trolls
  6 two-headed ogres
  An ugly thing zombie (Vaults:2)
  A tarantella (Spider:3)
  2 deep elf fighters
  16 ogres
  An orc wizard (D:27)
  A boggart (D:20)
  2 ufetubi (D:21)
  An orc (D:27)
  3 humans (Spider:4)
  A giant spore (D:15)
  9 illusory rakshasas (D:25)
  3 fungi
  2 plants
  6 tentacles (Shoals:3)
  36 tentacle segments (Shoals:3)
101 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 2328 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
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     0 | D:1      | Link, the Gargoyle Berserker, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 14/14 MP: 0/0
     2 | D:1      | Noticed a felid
     2 | D:1      | Noticed a minotaur
     4 | D:1      | Noticed a naga
     4 | D:1      | Noticed a dwarf
     6 | D:1      | Noticed an elf
     6 | D:1      | Noticed a merfolk
     8 | D:1      | Noticed a demigod
     8 | D:1      | Noticed a demonspawn
    10 | D:1      | Noticed a vampire
    10 | D:1      | Noticed a centaur
    12 | D:1      | Noticed a tengu
    14 | D:1      | Noticed a draconian
    14 | D:1      | Noticed a human
    16 | D:1      | Noticed a troll
    18 | D:1      | Noticed an ogre
    20 | D:1      | Noticed a ghoul
    20 | D:1      | Noticed a spriggan
    22 | D:1      | Noticed an octopode
   491 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 19/19 MP: 1/1
   610 | D:1      | Reached skill level 4 in Maces & Flails
  1097 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 24/24 MP: 2/2
  1224 | D:2      | Acquired Trog's second power
  1269 | D:2      | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails
  1395 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 23/28 MP: 3/3
  2527 | D:4      | Reached skill level 6 in Maces & Flails
  2527 | D:4      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 33/33 MP: 4/4
  2535 | D:4      | Found Kesutah's Gadget Shop.
  2818 | D:4      | Reached skill level 7 in Maces & Flails
  2950 | D:4      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  2984 | D:4      | Noticed an ogre
  2989 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 38/38 MP: 5/5
  2994 | D:4      | Killed an ogre
  3143 | D:4      | Found a glowing drain.
  3408 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3418 | D:5      | Reached skill level 8 in Maces & Flails
  3607 | D:5      | Found Koimeol's Jewellery Shoppe.
  3886 | D:5      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 42/42 MP: 6/6
  4099 | D:5      | Acquired Trog's third power
  4241 | D:5      | Reached skill level 9 in Maces & Flails
  4313 | D:6      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  4685 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  5010 | Temple   | Gained mutation: You have a pair of small horns on your head. [potion of beneficial mutation]
  5011 | Temple   | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in large bone plates (AC +2, SH +2). [potion of beneficial mutation]
  5015 | Temple   | Paralysed by a potion of paralysis for 5 turns
  5074 | D:6      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
  5106 | D:6      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  5125 | D:6      | Got a warped dagger
  5125 | D:6      | Got a shimmering animal skin
  5135 | D:6      | Identified the +0 animal skin of Devotion {Dex+1 Dam+6} (You found it on level 6 of the Dungeon)
  5143 | D:6      | Identified the dagger of Sikerph {freeze, Str-6} (You found it on level 6 of the Dungeon)
  5148 | D:6      | Noticed Sigmund
  5160 | D:6      | Killed Sigmund
  5160 | D:6      | Reached skill level 10 in Maces & Flails
  5160 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 36/48 MP: 7/7
  5818 | D:6      | Noticed Pikel
  5828 | D:6      | Reached skill level 11 in Maces & Flails
  5832 | D:6      | Killed Pikel
  5832 | D:6      | Reached skill level 12 in Maces & Flails
  5832 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 52/52 MP: 8/8
  7147 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  7147 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
  7723 | D:8      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
  7868 | D:8      | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
  7869 | D:8      | Noticed an Executioner
  7869 | D:8      | Noticed an angel
  8868 | D:9      | Received a gift from Trog
  8889 | D:9      | Got a faintly glowing demon whip
  8907 | D:9      | Identified the cursed demon whip "Naivi" {drain, +Inv rPois MR++} (You found it on level 9 of the Dungeon)
  8960 | D:9      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 60/60 MP: 9/9
  9018 | D:9      | Noticed Maurice
  9019 | D:9      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
  9069 | D:9      | Killed Maurice
  9301 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
  9310 | D:10     | Noticed a hill giant
  9313 | D:10     | Noticed a hill giant
  9320 | D:10     | Killed a hill giant
  9326 | D:10     | Killed a hill giant
  9674 | D:10     | Found Ifu Pam's Magic Scroll Boutique.
  9734 | D:10     | Got a pair of fine boots
  9738 | D:10     | Identified the +1 pair of boots "Croan" {rN+} (You found it on level 10 of the Dungeon)
  9756 | D:10     | Noticed a hill giant
  9757 | D:10     | Noticed a hill giant
  9762 | D:10     | Killed a hill giant
  9769 | D:10     | Killed a hill giant
 10127 | D:10     | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 10127 | D:10     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 68/68 MP: 10/10
 10252 | D:10     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 10326 | D:10     | Received a gift from Trog
 10807 | D:11     | Noticed Urug
 10827 | D:11     | Killed Urug
 11169 | D:11     | Noticed Psyche
 11175 | D:11     | Killed Psyche
 12030 | D:12     | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
 12115 | D:12     | Noticed Josephine
 12132 | D:12     | Killed Josephine
 12394 | D:12     | Noticed Fannar
 12414 | D:12     | Killed Fannar
 12414 | D:12     | Received a gift from Trog
 12509 | D:12     | Noticed Harold
 12519 | D:12     | Killed Harold
 12519 | D:12     | Reached XP level 12. HP: 78/78 MP: 11/11
 12656 | D:12     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 12666 | D:12     | Reached skill level 13 in Fighting
 12798 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 13472 | Lair:2   | Received a gift from Trog
 13599 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 14 in Fighting
 14260 | Lair:3   | Noticed Maud
 14285 | Lair:3   | Killed Maud
 14450 | Lair:3   | Received a gift from Trog
 14924 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
 16004 | Lair:4   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 80/87 MP: 12/12
 16504 | Lair:5   | Received a gift from Trog
 16643 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 16 in Fighting
 16871 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
 17630 | Lair:6   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 17792 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
 17997 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
 18049 | Lair:6   | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
 18051 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 18475 | Lair:7   | Received a gift from Trog
 19257 | Lair:8   | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
 19782 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 17 in Fighting
 19801 | Lair:8   | Received a gift from Trog
 19939 | Lair:8   | Found a frozen archway.
 20151 | Lair:8   | Gained mutation: Your wings are large and strong. [gargoyle growth]
 20151 | Lair:8   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 87/96 MP: 13/13
 20728 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 18 in Fighting
 20998 | D:10     | Noticed a hill giant
 21002 | D:10     | Killed a hill giant
 21066 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 21304 | Orc:1    | Noticed Dowan
 21306 | Orc:1    | Noticed Duvessa
 21312 | Orc:1    | Killed Duvessa
 21317 | Orc:1    | Killed Dowan
 21825 | Orc:3    | Noticed Erolcha
 21833 | Orc:3    | Killed Erolcha
 21974 | Orc:3    | Noticed Sonja
 21980 | Orc:3    | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
 21980 | Orc:3    | Found Shuosebi's Gadget Shoppe.
 22154 | Orc:4    | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
 22162 | Orc:4    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 22231 | Orc:4    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 22282 | Orc:4    | Found Wifies' Magic Scroll Boutique.
 22289 | Orc:4    | Received a gift from Trog
 22329 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of identify for 30 gold pieces
 22329 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of brand weapon for 300 gold pieces
 22329 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of identify for 30 gold pieces
 22329 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of identify for 30 gold pieces
 22329 | Orc:4    | Bought a scroll of enchant armour for 82 gold pieces
 22353 | Orc:4    | Found Cesoufet's Distillery.
 22354 | Orc:4    | Found Sudamamm's Book Shop.
 22362 | Orc:4    | Found Utaupear's Antique Weapon Shop.
 22362 | Orc:4    | Found Gownewk's General Store.
 22497 | Orc:4    | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 45 gold pieces
 22497 | Orc:4    | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 45 gold pieces
 22497 | Orc:4    | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 45 gold pieces
 22535 | Orc:4    | Found Toixuen's Distillery.
 22544 | Orc:4    | Received a gift from Trog
 23354 | D:13     | Noticed heteroy's ghost (powerful MiAM)
 23373 | D:13     | Killed heteroy's ghost
 23430 | D:13     | Noticed Fumblefoot's ghost (powerful DsBe)
 23459 | D:13     | Killed Fumblefoot's ghost
 23996 | D:14     | Entered Level 14 of the Dungeon
 24114 | D:14     | Received a gift from Trog
 24257 | D:14     | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns
 24338 | D:14     | Reached skill level 19 in Fighting
 24451 | D:14     | Found Dacaiz Dotig's Food Shoppe.
 24467 | D:14     | Bought a bread ration for 40 gold pieces
 24467 | D:14     | Bought a meat ration for 40 gold pieces
 24467 | D:14     | Bought a meat ration for 40 gold pieces
 24467 | D:14     | Bought a bread ration for 40 gold pieces
 24467 | D:14     | Bought a meat ration for 40 gold pieces
 24467 | D:14     | Bought a bread ration for 40 gold pieces
 24467 | D:14     | Bought a bread ration for 40 gold pieces
 24672 | D:14     | Found Paac's Pet Rocks.
 24759 | D:14     | Found a portal to a secret trove of treasure.
 25470 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 25470 | D:15     | Found a staircase to the Vaults.
 25470 | D:15     | Noticed Rupert
 25470 | D:15     | Noticed Norris
 25470 | D:15     | Noticed Snorg
 25475 | D:15     | Killed Snorg
 25497 | D:15     | Killed Rupert
 25526 | D:15     | Killed Norris
 25526 | D:15     | Reached XP level 15. HP: 46/104 MP: 4/15
 26452 | D:16     | Received a gift from Trog
 27031 | D:17     | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
 27471 | D:17     | Reached skill level 20 in Fighting
 28095 | D:18     | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
 28208 | D:18     | Received a gift from Trog
 28258 | D:19     | Noticed Agnes
 28272 | D:19     | Killed Agnes
 29087 | Spider:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Spider Nest
 29120 | Spider:1 | Noticed Roxanne
 29173 | Spider:1 | Killed Roxanne
 29348 | Spider:1 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 113/113 MP: 16/16
 30323 | Spider:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Shields
 30391 | Spider:2 | Received a gift from Trog
 30431 | Spider:2 | Gained mutation: You can translocate small distances at will. [potion of beneficial mutation]
 30433 | Spider:2 | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 30553 | Spider:2 | Noticed Azrael
 30569 | Spider:2 | Killed Azrael
 31521 | D:5      | Bought a +6,+5 ring of slaying for 1861 gold pieces
 32649 | D:19     | Noticed a titan
 32658 | D:19     | Reached skill level 15 in Armour
 32676 | D:19     | Killed a titan
 32935 | D:19     | Reached skill level 21 in Fighting
 33284 | D:19     | Noticed a tengu reaver
 33546 | D:19     | Killed a tengu reaver
 33677 | D:19     | Reached XP level 17. HP: 109/120 MP: 17/17
 33720 | D:19     | Noticed a tentacled monstrosity
 33735 | D:19     | Killed a tentacled monstrosity
 33928 | D:19     | Noticed a shadow dragon
 33945 | D:19     | Killed a shadow dragon
 34160 | D:20     | Entered Level 20 of the Dungeon
 34746 | D:20     | Noticed walerik's ghost (mighty DsFi)
 34767 | D:20     | Killed walerik's ghost
 35109 | D:20     | Found Wathaaq's Food Boutique.
 35117 | D:20     | Bought a meat ration for 56 gold pieces
 35117 | D:20     | Bought a bread ration for 56 gold pieces
 35117 | D:20     | Bought a bread ration for 56 gold pieces
 35117 | D:20     | Bought a bread ration for 56 gold pieces
 35528 | D:21     | Found a gateway to Hell.
 35833 | D:21     | Reached skill level 22 in Fighting
 36943 | D:21     | Reached XP level 18. HP: 128/128 MP: 18/18
 38053 | Spider:3 | Reached skill level 15 in Shields
 38090 | Spider:3 | Received a gift from Trog
 38437 | Spider:4 | Noticed Kirke
 38461 | Spider:4 | Killed Kirke
 38499 | Spider:4 | Noticed Arachne
 38513 | Spider:4 | Killed Arachne
 39108 | Spider:4 | Received a gift from Trog
 39665 | Shoals:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Shoals
 39713 | Shoals:1 | Noticed Erica
 39722 | Shoals:1 | Killed Erica
 41430 | Shoals:2 | Reached skill level 23 in Fighting
 42262 | Shoals:3 | Found Ohoum's Assorted Antiques.
 42301 | Shoals:3 | Bought a potion of curing for 56 gold pieces
 42301 | Shoals:3 | Bought a potion of curing for 56 gold pieces
 42301 | Shoals:3 | Bought a potion of curing for 56 gold pieces
 42301 | Shoals:3 | Bought a silvery potion for 25 gold pieces
 42646 | Shoals:4 | Received a gift from Trog
 42906 | Shoals:4 | Noticed Louise
 43246 | Shoals:4 | Killed Louise
 44885 | D:22     | Reached XP level 19. HP: 130/137 MP: 1/18
 45117 | D:22     | Received a gift from Trog
 45449 | D:23     | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
 46229 | D:23     | Reached skill level 24 in Fighting
 46458 | D:24     | Found a one-way gate leading to the halls of Pandemonium.
 47061 | D:24     | Found a one-way gate to the infinite horrors of the Abyss.
 47114 | D:24     | Noticed Margery
 47532 | D:25     | Entered Level 25 of the Dungeon
 47759 | D:24     | Killed Margery
 47882 | D:25     | Noticed Wiglaf
 47904 | D:25     | Killed Wiglaf
 48318 | D:25     | Got a twitching wooden ring
 48937 | D:25     | Received a gift from Trog
 48978 | D:25     | Identified the ring "Meanade" {Wiz rN+ Int+1 Dam+3 Stlth++} (You took it off a yaktaur on level 25 of the Dungeon)
 49274 | D:25     | Reached XP level 20. HP: 148/148 MP: 20/20
 49284 | D:25     | Reached skill level 25 in Fighting
 49362 | D:25     | Received a gift from Trog
 49402 | D:25     | Got a crystal sabre
 49406 | D:25     | Identified the cursed +5,+8 sabre "Taumpe" {freeze, rElec} (You found it on level 25 of the Dungeon)
 50998 | D:26     | Received a gift from Trog
 51220 | D:26     | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 51371 | D:26     | Noticed a golden dragon
 51382 | D:26     | Killed a golden dragon
 51532 | D:26     | Noticed a golden dragon
 51544 | D:26     | Killed a golden dragon
 51593 | D:26     | Reached skill level 26 in Fighting
 51830 | D:26     | Got a heavily runed tin ring
 52169 | D:26     | Reached XP level 21. HP: 107/156 MP: 20/20
 52306 | D:26     | Identified the ring "Cussarch" {Ice Str+3 Int+3} (You found it on level 26 of the Dungeon)
 52608 | D:27     | Entered Level 27 of the Dungeon
 53156 | D:27     | Received a gift from Trog
 54302 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults
 54806 | Vaults:1 | Received a gift from Trog
 56398 | Vaults:2 | Reached skill level 27 in Fighting
 57069 | Vaults:2 | Received a gift from Trog
 58006 | Vaults:2 | Found a staircase to the Enchanted Forest.
 58098 | Vaults:2 | Reached XP level 22. HP: 166/166 MP: 21/21


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 | 22-24 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Mace              |    78 |   153 |       |       |       |       |       |       ||   231
       Flail             |       |     7 |    99 |       |       |       |       |       ||   106
       Unarmed           |       |       |     4 |       |       |       |       |       ||     4
       Whip              |       |       |   255 |       |       |       |       |       ||   255
       Demon whip        |       |       |     4 |   792 |  1683 |  1860 |  1796 |   106 ||  6241
Invok: Burn Spellbooks   |     1 |       |     2 |       |     6 |     5 |     4 |       ||    18
       Berserk           |       |     4 |     9 |     3 |     4 |     9 |     5 |       ||    34
       Trog's Hand       |       |       |     2 |     1 |     2 |    10 |    18 |     1 ||    34
       Brothers in Arms  |       |       |     1 |       |    12 |    22 |    18 |       ||    53
 Abil: Fly               |       |       |       |       |       |     2 |       |       ||     2
       Stop Flying       |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |     1 |       ||     2
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |       |       |     1 |     4 |       |       ||     5
  Use: Scroll            |       |       |    29 |    13 |    17 |    18 |    17 |       ||    94
       Potion            |       |       |    15 |       |     9 |     7 |     8 |     1 ||    40
 Stab: Sleeping          |       |       |     1 |       |       |       |       |       ||     1


[Amnesiac]

You need 25 shields for a large shield so you could just switch to a normal one so it wouldn't slow down your attacks you'll have a bit less SH but it's not critical. Also, vanilla gloves would be better than bracers of archery for you as they decreasy your accuracy of melee attacks. Also enchanting that vamp whip might be a good idea and you can start by using those two scrolls. What use do you have for that great sword and that dagger, btw?..

[Link]

Honestly, I had that dagger at the start and never got rid of it, the swords I don't know, just in case. I'll do that with the vampire whip, what weapons should I keep, and which can I drop off? I thought I needed 15 for SH, so I'll just raise it. Also, what branch do I do now, I've not been this far before and don't know what to do...

[Link]

Actually I cleared out all of Vaults:1-4 and have now done the shoals 5 (easy!) and spiders 5 (easy!) and should I try to do the vaults 5 now and get the third rune? Screw it, I did it, got the rune on my third big square, totally worth it. have all three now now what????

[Amnesiac]

If you have rCorr somewhere you could do slimes, too. Just wear something with rC for azure jellies just in case. Both slimes and V:5 are more dangerous than first two lair branches, of course. The abbysal rune is not so hard to get, too, I think.

[Link]

I have the amulet of resist corrosion, and a ring of protection from cold, which should work? I'm guessing I should take off the ring of slaying, and use the cold protection, and also wear the amulet.

EDIT: Yup, Did that, so have four runes now

[Amnesiac]

yep, at some point jellies are quite easy if you have rCorr. The abyssal rune(if you want it) spawns on 3-5 levels, btw, but just staying on 3 until it spawns is the safest way.

[Link]

I went for the abyssal rune, and turned out to be a mistake, got to floor 2, and eventually just mutated and died.. Note to self, don't go there again.... Really Good Game.

[Mankeli]

Note to self, don't go there again.... Really Good Game.

Note to you: next time you have three runes, just go get the orb and win!

[Link]

Yea, I probably should've. Any recommendations on what to play as next? Is the Zot Realm harder or easier than the vaults and such?

[MoogleDan]

I know it's not the most popular source of information out there, but have you checked out the Crawl Wiki yet? While some of the advice is... dubious, it DOES have some good pointers and warnings in it. Here's the Realm of Zot article: http://crawl.chaosforge.org/The_Realm_of_Zot

[and into]

Yes, get a 3-rune game under your belt before going extended. Zot will have enemies you haven't seen before, when you do eventually get there, be careful and read the description of every creature.

Read the Wiki if you must, but only for simply factual material ("This list of creatures generate on Zot.") Disregard everything that is not strictly factual. Occasionally something on the Wiki will be outdated a bit, but for the most part the strictly factual stuff on it is accurate, and it presents the information in a form that tends to be more useful if you don't have a question about something very specific (in which case use the Knowledge Bots). So use the Knowledge Bots for that type of thing, and if you need elaboration about anything, ask on this forum. As you can see you get lots of quick responses, and people are actually beholden by others (rather than spared by complete anonymity) to give you good advice.

When it comes to advice on the wiki (as opposed to facts), "dubious" is an understatement. There are things on the Wiki presented as "good advice" that will straight-up get your character killed. Some of the advice is good, of course, because there are plenty of people who contribute to the wiki who know what they are talking about. Unfortunately the only way to know which advice is good and which is bad is if you already are an experienced player, in which case you don't need the advice anyway, so.....

[MoogleDan]

"Dubious" is an understatement, there are things on the Wiki presented as "good advice" that will straight-up get your character killed.

*sigh* We're working on it. It's a LOT of opinionated statements to chew through. Definitely feel free to point out any particular suicidals you spot; we really are trying to make a useful resource here.

[and into]

"Dubious" is an understatement, there are things on the Wiki presented as "good advice" that will straight-up get your character killed.

*sigh* We're working on it. It's a LOT of opinionated statements to chew through. Definitely feel free to point out any particular suicidals you spot; we really are trying to make a useful resource here.

I know, and it is a huge undertaking. Didn't mean it as a slight to you and what you are trying to do.

I'm working on a project right now that's keeping me pretty busy, but if you PM me, we can get in contact over email, and sometime next week I can maybe try to point out some of the stuff that is really outrageous (some of which seems it might have actually been put on there as trolling by someone).

I recall on the Abyssal Knight information page, for instance, it suggests using corruption in a labyrinth, which will easily kill a character, and even if it doesn't, provides no benefit whatsoever. (As if labyrinths need to be "tricked" through usage of god abilities, in the first place.....)

(In case it isn't clear to people who haven't worshiped Lugonu: Corruption spawns a bunch of neutral demons around you. The best way to use this is in an open area, so the demons disperse and you can slip away while they run amok against your enemies. It is wasted when there aren't a lot of enemies around, for one thing, but it is also very very dangerous to use it in cramped quarters, because the demons will all be piled in on top of you. You can use it in cramped quarters if you teleport immediately, but you never want to teleport in a labyrinth. So it is actually worse than useless, and indeed extremely dangerous, to use corruption in a labyrinth.)

[Amnesiac]

I went for the abyssal rune, and turned out to be a mistake, got to floor 2, and eventually just mutated and died.. Note to self, don't go there again.... Really Good Game.

I have only provided information, so I hope you don't blame me I consider abyssal rune quite easy by the time I'm ready to get it and I think your character was ok, probably not enough experience with the game, I guess.

Yes, get a 3-rune game under your belt before going extended. Zot will have enemies you haven't seen before, when you do eventually get there, be careful and read the description of every creature.

My first win was with 15 runes and 2 zigs, though. I like to brag about it.
As for zot realm, don't go there without rF++ or better. And zot:5 is a place that is almost never easy to clear.

[Link]

Thats pretty sweet, playing a DDEE (will get Makleb) question, how am I supposed to get the other spells like Crystal Spear and Iron Shot later on? Will I just stumble upon the books or something?

[Sandman25]

Yes, books is the only spell source unless you are with Vehumet, Sif Muna or Kiku. Actually the last two gods grant books too.

[Link]

So, I have this +0 Pearl Dragon Armour I found as a Spriggan Artificer on D:2, should I use it? and will it mess with Evocations since I plan on using Nemlex?
Edit, scratch that, Died to terence.

[MoogleDan]

That is flipping tragic. Pearl dragon armour is excellent stuff in general; I'd be cautious slapping it on a spriggan without serious strength boosts, but it's still one of the best armours in the game.

Evocations are completely unaffected by your armour or your intelligence, making them an excellent way to cheat out magical effects from big, clumsy dudes wearing massive armour.