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Snake Sneak

Posts: 101

Joined: Monday, 8th July 2013, 00:32

Post Saturday, 10th August 2013, 20:32

Gear and Skills Advice

Just wondering which weapon/shield you would favor.

One thing that really confused me, I have a +0 large shield and +5 regular shield. But my AC was the same with either one equipped. Is the +5 referring to something else? Some kind of diminishing returns?

Also advice about future skill developments welcome. I've got a book with statue form, and was considering maybe slowly working towards that once all my melee skills are in place.

  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.13-a0-2590-g8c14591 (tiles) character file.

Scott the Peltast (Gargoyle Berserker)             Turns: 65951, Time: 04:08:31

HP 156/156       AC 63     Str 28      XL: 23   Next: 97%
MP  34/34        EV  8     Int 11      God: Trog [******]
Gold 4645        SH 53     Dex 11      Spells:  0 memorised, 22 levels left

Res.Fire  : + + .   See Invis. : +   G - +0,+3 eveningstar (protect)
Res.Cold  : . . .   Warding    : .   y - +10 dwarf plate armour {rN+}
Life Prot.: + + +   Conserve   : .   X - +0 large shield of the Bagpipe {rN+ MR++ S
Res.Poison: +       Res.Corr.  : .   (no helmet)
Res.Elec. : +       Clarity    : +   L - +2 cloak "Fyfayt" {rElec rN+ Dex+2 Dam+2}
Sust.Abil.: . .     Spirit.Shd : .   u - +0 pair of gloves
Res.Mut.  : .       Stasis     : .   F - +1 pair of boots {rF+}
Res.Rott. : +       Flight     : +   I - amulet of clarity
Saprovore : . . .                    h - +4 ring of protection
                                     N - ring of Efugoar {cTele rPois rF+}

@: flying, extremely resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: large and strong wings, fangs 1, talons 2, life protection 1, electricity
resistance, slow metabolism 1, unbreathing, petrification resistance, AC +17
a: Stop Flying, Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms,
Renounce Religion, Evoke Teleport Control
}: 2/15 runes: decaying, gossamer


You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Trog.
Trog is exalted by your worship.
You are very hungry.

You have visited 7 branches of the dungeon, and seen 53 of its levels.
You have also visited: Volcano.

You have collected 5750 gold pieces.
You have spent 1125 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 e - a +3,+3 anti-magic eveningstar
 x - a +2,+6 eveningstar of venom
 G - a +0,+3 eveningstar of protection (weapon)
 K - a +1,+4 demon whip of electrocution
Armour
 f - the +5 shield of Resistance {rF+ rC+ MR+}
   (You found it on level 26 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It protects you from fire.
   It protects you from cold.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
 u - a +0 pair of gloves (worn)
 y - a +10 dwarven plate armour of positive energy (worn)
 F - a +1 pair of boots of fire resistance (worn)
 L - the +2 cloak "Fyfayt" (worn) {rElec rN+ Dex+2 Dam+2}
   (You found it on level 6 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It affects your dexterity (+2).
   It affects your damage-dealing abilities (+2).
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It protects you from negative energy.
 X - the +0 large shield of the Bagpipe (worn) {rN+ MR++ SInv}
   (You found it on level 20 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It enhances your eyesight.
Magical devices
 k - a wand of hasting (8)
 w - a wand of heal wounds (9)
Comestibles
 q - 5 meat rations
Scrolls
 p - 3 scrolls of remove curse
 r - 4 scrolls of identify
 v - a scroll of fear
 A - a scroll of fog
 H - 2 scrolls of teleportation
 T - a scroll of blinking
Jewellery
 a - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
 c - a ring of protection from cold
 h - a +4 ring of protection (right hand)
 m - an uncursed ring of sustenance
 C - an uncursed amulet of resist corrosion
 D - an uncursed amulet of the gourmand
 I - an amulet of clarity (around neck)
 N - the ring of Efugoar (left hand) {cTele rPois rF+}
   (You found it on level 10 of the Dungeon)   
   
   [ring of teleport control]
   It protects you from fire.
   It protects you from poison.
 W - an uncursed amulet of resist mutation
Potions
 b - 2 potions of agility
 g - 2 potions of might
 o - 3 potions of curing
 s - 2 potions of restore abilities
 R - 2 potions of heal wounds
Rods
 S - a +6 rod of inaccuracy (11/11)
   (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)


   Skills:
 + Level 19.7 Fighting
 - Level 20.4 Maces & Flails
 + Level 18.3 Armour
 - Level 1.5 Dodging
 - Level 25.1 Shields
 - Level 10.8 Evocations


You have 22 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (26/27)            Temple (0/1) D:7             Orc (4/4) D:6
    Elf (0/3) Orc:3          Lair (8/8) D:13          Swamp (5/5) Lair:3
 Spider (5/5) Lair:3        Slime (0/6) Lair:7       Vaults (4/5) D:16
  Blade (1/1) Vaults:4     Forest (0/5) Vaults:2   

Altars:
Cheibriados
Fedhas
Makhleb
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Yredelemnul
Beogh

Shops:
D:13: (!  D:14: +  D:16: [  D:20: =  D:21: =  Orc:4: [(**  Vaults:1: [  Vaults:3: !

Portals:
Hell: D:21 D:22 D:23 D:24 D:25 D:26
Abyss: D:21 D:22 D:23 D:25
Pandemonium: D:21 D:24 D:25

Annotations
D:6 exclusion: oklob plant


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are resistant to torment.
You are immune to poison.
You can fly continuously.
Your stone body is very resilient (AC +17).
Your wings are large and strong.
You have very sharp teeth.
You have razor-sharp toenails.
You resist negative energy.
You are resistant to electric shocks.
You have a slow metabolism.
You can survive without breathing.
You are immune to petrification.


Message History

h - a +4 ring of protection (right hand)
You start removing your armour.
You continue taking off the +0 large shield of the Bagpipe {rN+ MR++ SInv}.
You finish taking off the +0 large shield of the Bagpipe {rN+ MR++ SInv}.
You start putting on your armour.
You continue putting on the +5 shield of Resistance {rF+ rC+ MR+}.
You finish putting on the +5 shield of Resistance {rF+ rC+ MR+}.
You start removing your armour.
You continue taking off the +5 shield of Resistance {rF+ rC+ MR+}.
You finish taking off the +5 shield of Resistance {rF+ rC+ MR+}.
You start putting on your armour.
You continue putting on the +0 large shield of the Bagpipe {rN+ MR++ SInv}.
You finish putting on the +0 large shield of the Bagpipe {rN+ MR++ SInv}.
Your +1,+4 demon whip of electrocution stops crackling.
You feel protected!
G - a +0,+3 eveningstar of protection (weapon)
Items here: :::::
the Guide on the Snowflakes; a book of Cantrips; the Collected Works on Toxic Calling; a book of Beasts; a book of Transfigurations
Items here: """ ===========
Save game and exit?

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There are no monsters in sight!

Grand Total: 2664 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Scott, the Gargoyle Berserker, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 14/14 MP: 0/0
   113 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 19/19 MP: 1/1
   164 | D:1      | Reached skill level 4 in Maces & Flails
   503 | D:2      | Acquired Trog's second power
   670 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 24/24 MP: 2/2
   970 | D:2      | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails
  1049 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 26/28 MP: 3/3
  1443 | D:3      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns
  1948 | D:3      | Noticed a phantom
  1990 | D:3      | Killed a phantom
  1990 | D:3      | Reached skill level 6 in Maces & Flails
  1990 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 21/33 MP: 4/4
  2319 | D:4      | Reached skill level 7 in Maces & Flails
  2319 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 27/38 MP: 5/5
  2671 | D:4      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns
  2727 | D:4      | Reached skill level 8 in Maces & Flails
  3032 | D:4      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
  3150 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 42/42 MP: 6/6
  3268 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3840 | D:5      | Reached skill level 9 in Maces & Flails
  4056 | D:6      | Got a warped cloak
  4059 | D:6      | Identified the +2 cloak "Fyfayt" {rElec rN+ Dex+2 Dam+2} (You found it on level 6 of the Dungeon)
  4075 | D:6      | Acquired Trog's third power
  4275 | D:6      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
  4507 | D:6      | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
  4516 | D:6      | Reached skill level 10 in Maces & Flails
  4516 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 48/48 MP: 7/7
  4531 | D:6      | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
  4782 | D:6      | Reached skill level 11 in Maces & Flails
  5159 | D:6      | Noticed an oklob plant
  5159 | D:6      | a giant spore changed into an oklob plant
  5489 | D:7      | Noticed Ijyb
  5494 | D:7      | Killed Ijyb
  5528 | D:7      | Reached skill level 12 in Maces & Flails
  5599 | D:7      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 52/52 MP: 8/8
  5857 | D:7      | Reached skill level 13 in Maces & Flails
  5925 | D:7      | Noticed Pikel
  5940 | D:7      | Killed Pikel
  5956 | D:7      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  6220 | D:8      | Reached skill level 14 in Maces & Flails
  6534 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 51/57 MP: 9/9
  6607 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
  6608 | D:8      | Noticed a komodo dragon
  6671 | D:8      | Killed a komodo dragon
  6671 | D:8      | Reached skill level 15 in Maces & Flails
  7179 | D:8      | the staircase to the Lair was a mimic.
  7824 | D:9      | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
  7824 | D:9      | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
  7910 | D:9      | Noticed a skeletal warrior
  7936 | D:9      | Killed a skeletal warrior
  8112 | D:9      | Noticed a skeletal warrior
  8112 | D:9      | Noticed a skeletal warrior
  8112 | D:9      | Noticed a skeletal warrior
  8223 | D:9      | Killed a skeletal warrior
  8223 | D:9      | Reached skill level 16 in Maces & Flails
  8507 | D:9      | Noticed a skeletal warrior
  8521 | D:9      | Killed a skeletal warrior
  8605 | D:9      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns
  8624 | D:9      | Got an ancient long sword
  8844 | D:9      | Identified the +8,+1 long sword of the Shore {flame, +Inv MR++ Dex+2 Int+2} (You found it on level 9 of the Dungeon)
  8901 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
  8964 | D:10     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 61/61 MP: 10/10
  9310 | D:10     | Reached skill level 17 in Maces & Flails
  9489 | D:10     | Received a gift from Trog
  9843 | D:10     | Got a warped platinum ring
  9921 | D:10     | Identified the ring of Efugoar {cTele rPois rF+} (You found it on level 10 of the Dungeon)
 10561 | D:11     | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
 10839 | D:11     | Reached skill level 18 in Maces & Flails
 10880 | D:11     | Killed an unseen horror
 11095 | D:11     | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
 11128 | D:11     | Reached XP level 12. HP: 46/71 MP: 11/11
 11143 | D:11     | Paralysed by you for 7 turns
 11845 | D:12     | Received a gift from Trog
 12313 | D:13     | Found Cruschol's Distillery.
 12317 | D:13     | Found Kalufuh's Antique Weapon Shop.
 12786 | D:13     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 13079 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 13608 | Lair:1   | Noticed a death yak
 13748 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 19 in Maces & Flails
 13783 | Lair:1   | Received a gift from Trog
 14047 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 14417 | Lair:2   | Noticed Erica
 14425 | Lair:2   | Killed Erica
 14908 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
 14934 | Lair:3   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 75/80 MP: 12/12
 15101 | Lair:3   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 15219 | Lair:3   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 15362 | Lair:3   | Received a gift from Trog
 16155 | Lair:4   | Received a gift from Trog
 16314 | Lair:5   | Noticed Rupert
 16322 | Lair:5   | Paralysed by Rupert for 4 turns
 16487 | Lair:5   | Killed Rupert
 17561 | Lair:6   | Received a gift from Trog
 18835 | Lair:6   | Gained mutation: Your wings are large and strong. [gargoyle growth]
 18835 | Lair:6   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 66/90 MP: 4/13
 19018 | Lair:7   | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
 19176 | Lair:7   | Received a gift from Trog
 19504 | Lair:7   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 20222 | Lair:7   | Gained mutation: You occasionally shout uncontrollably. [pulsating lump's mutagenic touch]
 20262 | Lair:7   | Found a dark tunnel.
 20269 | Volcano  | Entered a volcano
 20701 | Lair:8   | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts
 21046 | Lair:8   | Received a gift from Trog
 21189 | Lair:8   | HP: 1/92 [acid (6)]
 21940 | Lair:8   | Received a gift from Trog
 22064 | Lair:8   | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
 22722 | Lair:8   | Reached XP level 15. HP: 92/98 MP: 4/14
 22906 | Lair:8   | Received a gift from Trog
 23006 | Lair:8   | Identified a +6 rod of inaccuracy (11/11) (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts)
 23832 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 23906 | Orc:1    | Noticed Grum
 24099 | Orc:1    | Killed Grum
 24100 | Orc:1    | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
 24278 | Orc:1    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 24584 | Orc:1    | Received a gift from Trog
 24740 | Orc:3    | Noticed Urug
 24754 | Orc:3    | Killed Urug
 24794 | Orc:3    | Noticed Josephine
 24805 | Orc:3    | Killed Josephine
 24992 | Orc:3    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 25161 | Orc:4    | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
 25324 | Orc:4    | Received a gift from Trog
 25533 | Orc:4    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 25533 | Orc:4    | Found Temarpha's Assorted Antiques.
 25616 | Orc:4    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 25779 | Orc:4    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 25793 | Orc:4    | Found Ladufuabb's General Store.
 25886 | Orc:4    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 25895 | Orc:4    | Received a gift from Trog
 25939 | Orc:4    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 26114 | Orc:4    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 26410 | Orc:4    | Noticed Saint Roka
 26427 | Orc:4    | Killed Saint Roka
 26791 | Orc:4    | Found Klossapp's Antique Armour Shoppe.
 26791 | Orc:4    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 26795 | Orc:4    | Found Kuaju's Antique Weapon Emporium.
 27567 | Lair:1   | Gained mutation: You have a pair of small horns on your head. [potion of mutation]
 27567 | Lair:1   | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in slimy green scales (AC +2). [potion of mutation]
 27567 | Lair:1   | Gained mutation: You are frail (-10% HP). [potion of mutation]
 27630 | D:14     | Entered Level 14 of the Dungeon
 27641 | D:14     | Noticed Nergalle
 27647 | D:14     | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations
 27686 | D:14     | Killed Nergalle
 27939 | D:14     | Received a gift from Trog
 28194 | D:14     | Found Twail's Book Shop.
 28348 | D:14     | Noticed Nikola
 28363 | D:14     | Killed Nikola
 28548 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 29087 | D:15     | Reached skill level 20 in Maces & Flails
 29332 | D:15     | Received a gift from Trog
 29361 | D:15     | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
 29458 | D:15     | Reached XP level 16. HP: 93/93 MP: 8/26
 29923 | D:16     | Noticed Sonja
 29947 | D:16     | Killed Sonja
 29976 | D:16     | Found a staircase to the Vaults.
 30127 | D:16     | Noticed Agnes
 30145 | D:16     | Killed Agnes
 30713 | D:16     | Received a gift from Trog
 30730 | D:16     | Got a polished great mace {god gift}
 30731 | D:16     | Identified the great mace of Hatred {god gift, venom, rElec rN+} (Trog gifted it to you on level 16 of the Dungeon)
 30909 | D:16     | Found Diuqofid's Antique Armour Emporium.
 31227 | D:17     | Noticed Snorg
 31235 | D:17     | Killed Snorg
 31795 | D:17     | Noticed Azrael
 31806 | D:17     | Killed Azrael
 32626 | D:18     | Received a gift from Trog
 32815 | D:18     | Reached skill level 10 in Evocations
 33471 | D:18     | Got a smoking plate armour
 33472 | D:18     | Identified the +4 plate armour "Xiada" {Str+5 Int+3} (You found it on level 18 of the Dungeon)
 33686 | D:19     | Noticed a tengu reaver
 33694 | D:19     | Killed a tengu reaver
 33694 | D:19     | Reached XP level 17. HP: 50/100 MP: 9/29
 34705 | D:19     | Received a gift from Trog
 34932 | D:20     | Entered Level 20 of the Dungeon
 35196 | D:20     | Got a faintly glowing large shield
 35197 | D:20     | Identified the +0 large shield of the Bagpipe {rN+ MR++ SInv} (You found it on level 20 of the Dungeon)
 35246 | D:20     | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
 35268 | D:20     | Found Creqiamn's Jewellery Shoppe.
 35272 | D:20     | Bought an uncursed amulet of resist mutation for 600 gold pieces
 35744 | D:20     | Noticed a quicksilver dragon
 35753 | D:20     | Killed a quicksilver dragon
 35859 | D:20     | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
 36572 | Spider:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Spider Nest
 36793 | Spider:1 | Noticed Louise
 36827 | Spider:1 | Killed Louise
 36829 | Spider:1 | Received a gift from Trog
 37804 | Spider:2 | Received a gift from Trog
 38040 | Spider:3 | Noticed Arachne
 38068 | Spider:3 | Killed Arachne
 38238 | Spider:3 | Reached skill level 10 in Shields
 38351 | Spider:3 | Noticed Kirke
 38366 | Spider:3 | Killed Kirke
 38721 | Spider:4 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 107/107 MP: 10/31
 39085 | Spider:4 | Received a gift from Trog
 39201 | Spider:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Spider Nest
 39577 | Spider:5 | Received a gift from Trog
 39904 | Spider:5 | Noticed Boris
 39911 | Spider:5 | Killed Boris
 40562 | Spider:5 | Received a gift from Trog
 40683 | Spider:5 | Got a gossamer rune of Zot
 41105 | Swamp:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp
 41535 | Swamp:1  | Reached skill level 15 in Shields
 41609 | Swamp:1  | Noticed Roxanne
 41624 | Swamp:1  | Killed Roxanne
 42356 | Swamp:3  | Received a gift from Trog
 42370 | Swamp:2  | Reached XP level 19. HP: 74/111 MP: 31/31
 42830 | Swamp:3  | Noticed Wiglaf
 42849 | Swamp:3  | Killed Wiglaf
 43072 | Swamp:3  | Noticed Frances
 43096 | Swamp:3  | Killed Frances
 43660 | Swamp:4  | Received a gift from Trog
 43661 | Swamp:4  | Got a jewelled eveningstar {god gift}
 43662 | Swamp:4  | Identified the eveningstar "Crowuim" {god gift, crush, rC+} (Trog gifted it to you on level 4 of the Swamp)
 44762 | Swamp:5  | Entered Level 5 of the Swamp
 45075 | Swamp:5  | Noticed Aizul
 45114 | Swamp:5  | Killed Aizul
 45357 | Swamp:5  | Received a gift from Trog
 45435 | Swamp:5  | Got a decaying rune of Zot
 46296 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults
 46591 | Vaults:1 | Received a gift from Trog
 46717 | Vaults:1 | Found Ifamaenu's Armour Emporium.
 47103 | Vaults:1 | Reached XP level 20. HP: 117/117 MP: 32/32
 47376 | Vaults:1 | Received a gift from Trog
 47443 | Vaults:1 | Noticed a lich
 47457 | Vaults:1 | Killed a lich
 47710 | Vaults:1 | Got a scintillating silver ring
 48354 | Vaults:2 | Received a gift from Trog
 48610 | Vaults:2 | Got an ichor-stained crossbow
 48616 | Vaults:2 | Got an encrusted crossbow
 48618 | Vaults:2 | Got a slimy crossbow
 48634 | Vaults:2 | Identified the ring "Etunguf" {rPois Str-3 Int+5} (You found it on level 1 of the Vaults)
 48803 | Vaults:2 | Found a staircase to the Enchanted Forest.
 48972 | Vaults:2 | Reached skill level 21 in Shields
 49431 | Vaults:2 | Received a gift from Trog
 49434 | Vaults:2 | Got an encrusted eveningstar {god gift}
 49435 | Vaults:2 | Identified the eveningstar of Kiupuzxo {god gift, venom, rF+} (Trog gifted it to you on level 2 of the Vaults)
 49871 | Vaults:3 | Found Caluicack's Distillery.
 49880 | Vaults:3 | Bought a potion of cure mutation for 525 gold pieces
 49882 | Vaults:3 | Lost mutation: You occasionally shout uncontrollably. [potion of cure mutation]
 49882 | Vaults:3 | Lost mutation: You are partially covered in slimy green scales (AC +2). [potion of cure mutation]
 49882 | Vaults:3 | Lost mutation: You are frail (-10% HP). [potion of cure mutation]
 49882 | Vaults:3 | Lost mutation: You have a pair of small horns on your head. [potion of cure mutation]
 50178 | Vaults:3 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
 50467 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 22 in Shields
 50476 | Vaults:3 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 130/136 MP: 33/33
 50477 | Vaults:3 | Received a gift from Trog
 51058 | Vaults:4 | Found a staircase to the Hall of Blades.
 51105 | Vaults:4 | Got an opalescent robe
 51227 | Vaults:4 | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 51465 | Vaults:4 | Reached skill level 23 in Shields
 51897 | Vaults:4 | Received a gift from Trog
 52303 | Vaults:4 | Identified the cursed +1,+3 crossbow of Qisomu Trirr {velocity, rF+ rN+ MR++} (You took it off a yaktaur on level 2 of the Vaults)
 52303 | Vaults:4 | Identified the cursed +0,-1 crossbow "Esutt" {flame, rElec MR++} (You found it on level 2 of the Vaults)
 52303 | Vaults:4 | Identified the +4,+3 crossbow "Hell-Harrower" {penet, rC+ Int+1} (You found it on level 2 of the Vaults)
 52566 | Vaults:4 | Got a pair of faintly glowing boots
 52567 | Vaults:4 | Identified the +2 pair of boots of the Louse {+Rage rN+ Curse} (You found it on level 4 of the Vaults)
 52932 | Vaults:4 | Received a gift from Trog
 52959 | Vaults:4 | Identified the cursed -3 robe of Leax {Str-3 Dex+4 Int+4} (You found it on level 4 of the Vaults)
 53532 | Vaults:4 | Reached skill level 24 in Shields
 53599 | Blade    | Entered the Hall of Blades
 53799 | Blade    | Noticed Margery
 53807 | Blade    | Killed Margery
 54026 | Blade    | Reached XP level 22. HP: 135/143 MP: 33/33
 55230 | D:21     | Found Ketaan's Jewellery Emporium.
 55450 | D:21     | Found a gateway to Hell.
 55526 | D:21     | Found a one-way gate to the infinite horrors of the Abyss.
 55643 | D:21     | Received a gift from Trog
 55899 | D:21     | Reached skill level 25 in Shields
 56289 | D:21     | Found a one-way gate leading to the halls of Pandemonium.
 57266 | D:22     | Received a gift from Trog
 57361 | D:22     | Reached skill level 15 in Armour
 57620 | D:22     | Got a shimmering great mace
 57621 | D:22     | Identified the +5,+2 great mace of Yeast {elec, +Rage} (You acquired it on level 22 of the Dungeon)
 58078 | D:22     | Noticed an ancient lich
 58100 | D:22     | HP: 3/144 [ancient lich/crystal spear (54)]
 58102 | D:22     | Killed an ancient lich
 58554 | D:22     | Received a gift from Trog
 60138 | D:24     | Reached XP level 23. HP: 145/152 MP: 34/34
 60261 | D:24     | Noticed Mennas
 60311 | D:24     | Killed Mennas
 60344 | D:24     | Received a gift from Trog
 60372 | D:24     | Noticed Boris
 60397 | D:24     | Killed Boris
 60561 | D:24     | Noticed Xtahua
 60647 | D:24     | Killed Xtahua
 60914 | D:24     | Got a flickering jade ring
 60915 | D:24     | Identified the ring of Awe {Hunger Dex-3 Dam-5} (You took it off a frost giant on level 24 of the Dungeon)
 61045 | D:24     | Got a twisted mace
 61046 | D:24     | Identified the cursed mace of the People {drain, rElec} (You found it on level 24 of the Dungeon)
 61058 | D:24     | Got a pair of dazzling gloves
 61061 | D:24     | Identified the cursed -4 pair of gloves "Donooxua" {+Rage rElec rPois rN+} (You found it on level 24 of the Dungeon)
 61079 | D:24     | Identified the Collected Works on Toxic Calling (You found it on level 24 of the Dungeon)
 61957 | D:25     | Entered Level 25 of the Dungeon
 62056 | D:25     | Received a gift from Trog
 63810 | D:26     | Received a gift from Trog
 65038 | D:26     | Identified the Guide on the Snowflakes (You found it on level 26 of the Dungeon)
 65204 | D:26     | Received a gift from Trog


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 | 22-24 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Mace              |    89 |    89 |       |       |       |       |       |    41 ||   219
       Morningstar       |       |    49 |   189 |   183 |       |       |       |     9 ||   430
       Whip              |       |       |    58 |    57 |       |       |       |       ||   115
       Dire flail        |       |       |       |   507 |   187 |       |       |       ||   694
       Demon whip        |       |       |       |       |   323 |    67 |   135 |       ||   525
       Great mace        |       |       |       |       |  1287 |   398 |       |       ||  1685
       Eveningstar       |       |       |       |       |   102 |  1266 |  1960 |  1989 ||  5317
       Rod               |       |       |       |       |    26 |       |       |       ||    26
       Unarmed           |       |       |       |       |       |       |    81 |    20 ||   101
Invok: Berserk           |       |       |     1 |     1 |     4 |     7 |     4 |     4 ||    21
       Burn Spellbooks   |       |       |       |     4 |     2 |     1 |       |       ||     7
       Brothers in Arms  |       |       |       |       |     1 |     1 |     1 |     1 ||     4
 Abil: Fly               |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |       ||     1
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |     3 |    14 |     5 |     2 |     2 |       ||    26
  Use: Scroll            |       |       |       |    23 |     7 |    12 |    13 |    13 ||    68
       Potion            |       |       |       |     4 |    11 |       |     2 |     1 ||    18
 Stab: Fleeing           |       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |       ||     1
       Invisible         |       |       |       |       |       |       |     7 |       ||     7

Ziggurat Zagger

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Post Saturday, 10th August 2013, 20:42

Re: Gear and Skills Advice

The demon whip of elec. hands down, with the antimagic eveningstar against casters.

The shield of resistance is pretty awesome, but you've already got the 25 skill needed to eliminate the extra penalties on the large shield and you don't need the fire resistance so you can go with the large one if you find it works better for you.

Don't train spells unless you leave Trog. Even if you do, Statue Form isn't likely to benefit you much.

Snake Sneak

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Post Saturday, 10th August 2013, 21:06

Re: Gear and Skills Advice

OK, after reading more about statue form, the loss of my all my armor makes the extra AC less appealing. I'll max HP and Evo instead, got a couple phials and stones, and a rod of innaccuracy I'd like to try out.

I actually have an anti-magic demon whip, now I just have to decide how to split the enchant scrolls between them.

How many enemies do you want to have rF+++ or rC++ against? Worth carrying it around and switching it in against elemental attackers?
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Snake Sneak

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Post Saturday, 10th August 2013, 21:32

Re: Gear and Skills Advice

scott9027 wrote:One thing that really confused me, I have a +0 large shield and +5 regular shield. But my AC was the same with either one equipped. Is the +5 referring to something else?

Enchanting a shield increases SH value, not AC.

Dis Charger

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Post Saturday, 10th August 2013, 21:38

Re: Gear and Skills Advice

Rod of inaccuracy is great for slime pits, but you need to do something about azure jellies, because they are fast, they dodge and they hit hard with cold. Rod of inaccuracy is super-duper good agains giants and zombies and good for bone dragons, mummies and dragons. If you have a rod of inaccuracy it's a good idea to enchant it with racharge scrolls and to train evo to as high as you can afford. It's always worth to carry as much resistances as you can, since why not? And of course it's good to have at least + . . for every resistance.

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Post Sunday, 11th August 2013, 00:26

Re: Gear and Skills Advice

I wouldn't consider a shield of resistance a good swap-out item for resistances, simply because it takes so long to unequip one shield and reequip the other. rF++ and rC+ is enough for most areas, and your build seems the sort that can afford to play a teensy bit reckless :P
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Post Sunday, 11th August 2013, 01:09

Re: Gear and Skills Advice

I'd wear the large shield in the remainder of D, forest, and vaults where the extra sh is useful, and elf where the sInv is good. Probably the shield of resistance everywhere else where resistances are more valuable, meaning zot and any extended should you choose to do so. Finding an alternate source of sInv changes things as well. I think you'll have more than adequate sh with a regular shield.

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