Am I doing it right?

Monday, 22nd July 2013, 01:22 by delarado

Feel like I'm on a good one here. Am I doing it right? any suggestions?

I think I mistakenly levelled Int at one point, and my Dex looks a little low. Is there any way to tell what I've been levelling when levelling up? As I think I've been doing it wrong!

What do I do with the deck of cards? is this something to do with nemelex?

Which axe is better, the executioner or the broad axe? I work it out that the broad axe is better, even with both at min delay (For which Id have to train for the executioners)...workings:

For min delay with broad axe I need 16 skill, which gives me 0.25 damage when dividing damage by delay (13+7)/(160/2) = 0.25
For min delay with exec axe I need 20 skill, which gives me 0.24 damage when dividing damage by delay (18+6)/(200/2)= 0.24

The accuracy rating on the broad axe is also better, so I presume that makes it a more effective weapon? (quicker and more accurate attacks?)

Is it worth keeping hold of the RElec scimi or shall i Just dump it?

I had a shield for a while, but I dropped it as I thought it was probably slowing my attacks down far too much. Can anyone confirm or deny? I stashed it, but as you can see theres also a buckler right there...

Anything else I should try and get hold of? I'm focusing armor training now. Trained bows just a little bit as they are really handy for taking out enemies from groups as they close, or kiting groups of slugs/snails (And gastronok when i find him!)

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.13-a0-2488-g1078ce8 (webtiles) character file. Delarado the Severer (Minotaur Berserker) Turns: 19681, Time: 02:21:40 HP 92/92 AC 21 Str 23 XL: 12 Next: 7% MP 1/1 EV 7 Int 6 God: Trog [*****.] Gold 588 SH 0 Dex 12 Spells: 0 memorised, 11 levels left Res.Fire : . . . See Invis. : . a - +3,+7 dwarf broad axe (antimagic) Res.Cold : . . . Warding : . Q - +3 orc plate armour Life Prot.: . . . Conserve : . (no shield) Res.Poison: + Res.Corr. : . (helmet restricted) Res.Elec. : . Clarity : . (no cloak) Sust.Abil.: . . Spirit.Shd : . (no gloves) Res.Mut. : . Stasis : . G - +0 pair of boots Res.Rott. : . Flight : . e - crude tin amulet {tried} Saprovore : . . . C - coral ring {tried} o - ring of poison resistance @: somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy A: retaliatory headbutt, horns 2 a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion You are on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts. You worship Trog. Trog is exalted by your worship. You are not hungry. You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 14 of its levels. You have collected 862 gold pieces. You have spent 294 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons a - a +3,+7 dwarven anti-magic broad axe (weapon) q - an uncursed bow of flame t - a +0,+0 war axe u - an uncursed bow of evasion {god gift} R - the sabre of Perfectionism {elec, Str+3 Int-2 Stlth++, was cursed} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) Occasionally, upon striking a foe, it will discharge some electrical energy and cause terrible harm. It affects your strength (+3). It affects your intelligence (-2). It makes you much more stealthy. S - a +1,+6 anti-magic executioner's axe Missiles D - 87 arrows Armour G - a +0 pair of boots (worn) Q - a +3 orcish plate armour (worn) Magical devices b - a wand of enslavement {zapped: 1} j - a wand of frost {zapped: 1} m - a wand of slowing {zapped: 3} B - a wand of paralysis {zapped: 2} I - a wand of random effects {zapped: 1} K - a wand of lightning {zapped: 1} T - a wand of lightning {zapped: 1} U - a runed copper wand Comestibles c - 7 bread rations d - 4 meat rations z - 2 chunks of blink frog flesh X - a royal jelly Scrolls k - 3 scrolls of blinking r - 4 scrolls of teleportation s - 6 scrolls of remove curse x - 4 scrolls of recharging A - a scroll labeled WEGGITI XEQEE M - a scroll of magic mapping O - 2 scrolls labeled PREONE SUYS {tried} P - 4 scrolls of fear W - a scroll of fog Jewellery e - a crude tin amulet (around neck) {tried} h - an uncursed amulet of stasis i - an uncursed amulet of clarity n - a cursed amulet of conservation o - a ring of poison resistance (left hand) v - an uncursed ring of regeneration w - an uncursed ring of ice C - a coral ring (right hand) {tried} N - an uncursed ring of positive energy Y - a coral ring {tried} Potions f - a murky red potion g - 9 potions of curing l - 2 potions of cure mutation p - 2 cyan potions E - 2 potions of brilliance F - 3 potions of heal wounds H - a viscous green potion J - a glowing black potion L - 2 black potions V - a potion of restore abilities Z - 2 green potions Miscellaneous y - an ornate deck of cards Skills: - Level 3.6 Fighting - Level 16.0 Axes - Level 4.2 Bows * Level 14.9 Armour - Level 2.1 Dodging Level 4.4 Shields You have 11 spell levels left. You don't know any spells. Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (10/27) Temple (1/1) D:5 Orc (0/4) D:8 Lair (3/8) D:10 Swamp: Lair:3-6 Shoals: Lair:3-6 Snake: Lair:3-6 Spider: Lair:3-6 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Elyvilon Kikubaaqudgha Okawaru Trog Xom Yredelemnul Zin the Shining One Shops: D:4: ( D:5: ! D:6: %/? Annotations D:9 7 exclusions Lair:2 exclusion: oklob plant Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You reflexively headbutt those who attack you in melee. You have a pair of horns on your head. Message History You start butchering the blink frog corpse with your dwarven broad axe. You continue butchering the corpse. You finish chopping the blink frog corpse into pieces. z - 2 chunks of blink frog flesh You see here a blink frog skeleton. D - 76 arrows (gained 2) D - 77 arrows (gained 1) D - 78 arrows (gained 1) You see here an orcish robe. D - 79 arrows (gained 1) D - 80 arrows (gained 1) D - 82 arrows (gained 2) D - 85 arrows (gained 3) D - 86 arrows (gained 1) D - 87 arrows (gained 1) Y - a coral ring {tried} You see here a buckler. Done exploring. Char dumped successfully. Saving game... please wait. ....#..........# ......#........# ##.............# #......#.....## ##.......#...# ##..######..## ###..## #.#..## ##.P...# ###.#.## .......# ####@# .#.....## ### #.......#### .........ff## ....ff......# #### #..####.....## #.P# ....#........###..# ##...###..........# ###...#f......##### There are no monsters in sight! Vanquished Creatures Erolcha (D:8) Maurice (D:7) 2 black mambas (Lair:3) 6 spiny frogs 2 komodo dragons A two-headed ogre (D:8) 8 blink frogs 3 basilisks (Lair:2) An elephant slug (Lair:3) Eustachio (D:9) A steam dragon (D:8) 6 yaks (Lair:3) 2 hippogriffs Menkaure (D:6) 2 porcupines A necrophage (D:8) 5 orc warriors 4 black bears A sky beast (D:8) 3 giant goldfish (Lair:2) 3 ice beasts A boring beetle (Lair:3) 7 ogres 4 centaurs 2 crocodiles (Lair:1) 6 giant slugs 4 wargs 2 water moccasins (Lair:1) A manticore zombie (D:9) A gnoll sergeant (D:5) 2 agate snails (Lair:2) 11 giant frogs A troll zombie (D:8) 23 killer bees A yak skeleton (D:9) A quasit (D:7) 5 crimson imps A giant frog zombie (D:5) 3 goliath beetles 4 orc priests A two-headed ogre zombie (D:7) A giant frog skeleton (D:4) 5 iguanas 6 hounds A scorpion (D:7) 7 worker ants 9 orc wizards 4 jellies 6 sheep (Lair:3) An ogre skeleton (D:7) 19 adders 23 gnolls 43 green rats A worm zombie (D:8) 4 giant mites 3 giant centipedes 3 worms An iguana skeleton (D:6) An adder skeleton (D:9) 3 giant eyeballs 6 giant geckos 18 oozes 46 orcs 12 bats 3 bat zombies 15 goblins 12 hobgoblins 15 jackals 17 kobolds 6 giant cockroaches A giant gecko zombie (D:5) 8 giant newts A giant newt skeleton (D:4) A gnoll skeleton (D:6) A goblin zombie (D:5) A hobgoblin skeleton (D:5) A kobold skeleton (D:4) 2 orc skeletons 8 quokkas A quokka skeleton (D:4) 24 rats A rat zombie (D:8) A ballistomycete (D:9) A bush (D:5) 2 fungi 3 plants (Lair:3) 484 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) A hydra (Lair:3) 1 creature vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A necrophage (D:9) An adder (D:9) 2 giant spores (D:9) 4 fungi 8 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 493 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Delarado, the Minotaur Berserker, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 19/19 MP: 0/0 61 | D:1 | Reached skill level 4 in Axes 161 | D:1 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados. 291 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 20/26 MP: 0/0 1127 | D:1 | Acquired Trog's second power 1127 | D:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Axes 1139 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 16/33 MP: 1/1 2091 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 7/39 MP: 1/1 2373 | D:3 | Reached skill level 6 in Axes 3706 | D:4 | Reached skill level 7 in Axes 3706 | D:4 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 46/46 MP: 1/1 3925 | D:4 | Reached skill level 8 in Axes 4094 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 4100 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 4100 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 52/52 MP: 2/2 4197 | D:4 | Acquired Trog's third power 4237 | D:4 | Found Trerph's Antique Weapon Boutique. 4258 | D:4 | Reached skill level 9 in Axes 4532 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 4574 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 56/59 MP: 2/2 4708 | D:5 | Reached skill level 10 in Axes 4802 | D:5 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 5534 | D:5 | Reached skill level 11 in Axes 5692 | D:5 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin. 5692 | D:5 | Noticed an angel 5764 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 33/66 MP: 2/2 6116 | D:5 | Reached skill level 12 in Axes 6266 | D:5 | Found Skiff's Distillery. 6270 | D:5 | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 42 gold pieces 6334 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 6366 | D:6 | Found Imuden's Magic Scroll Boutique. 6592 | D:6 | Found Nuxuid's Magical Wand Emporium. 6688 | D:6 | Noticed Menkaure 6729 | D:6 | Killed Menkaure 6861 | D:6 | Reached skill level 13 in Axes 7008 | D:6 | Bought a scroll of magic mapping for 45 gold pieces 7008 | D:6 | Bought a scroll of identify for 26 gold pieces 7008 | D:6 | Bought a scroll of identify for 26 gold pieces 7008 | D:6 | Bought a scroll of remove curse for 39 gold pieces 7008 | D:6 | Bought a scroll of enchant armour for 71 gold pieces 7008 | D:6 | Bought a scroll of fear for 45 gold pieces 7013 | D:6 | Found Golacy's Food Emporium. 7061 | D:6 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns 7911 | D:7 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 7991 | D:7 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 72/72 MP: 3/3 8125 | D:7 | Reached skill level 14 in Axes 8184 | D:7 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 9158 | D:8 | Noticed Maurice 9168 | D:7 | Reached skill level 15 in Axes 9170 | D:7 | Received a gift from Trog 9269 | D:7 | Killed Maurice 9406 | D:8 | Reached skill level 16 in Axes 9591 | D:8 | Reached skill level 1 in Shields 9602 | D:8 | Reached skill level 1 in Bows 9602 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 48/79 MP: 1/3 9880 | D:8 | Noticed Erolcha 9880 | D:8 | Paralysed by Erolcha for 4 turns 9891 | D:8 | Paralysed by Erolcha for 2 turns 9897 | D:8 | Killed Erolcha 10152 | D:8 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns 10159 | D:8 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns 10165 | D:8 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns 10179 | D:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Armour 10401 | D:8 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 11667 | D:9 | Noticed Eustachio 11737 | D:9 | Killed Eustachio 12730 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 12735 | D:9 | Received a gift from Trog 13034 | D:10 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 14219 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 14305 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 40/84 MP: 1/3 14651 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Armour 14998 | Lair:1 | Received a gift from Trog 15189 | Lair:1 | Got a crude broad axe 15190 | Lair:1 | Identified the cursed broad axe of Ukozaik {chop, rElec} (You found it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts) 15848 | Lair:2 | Identified a scroll of acquirement 15849 | Lair:2 | Got a crude tin amulet 16551 | Lair:2 | Received a gift from Trog 17571 | Lair:3 | Got an encrusted sabre 17572 | Lair:3 | Identified the cursed sabre of Perfectionism {elec, Str+3 Int-2 Stlth++} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) 18027 | Lair:3 | Noticed an eight-headed hydra 18033 | Lair:3 | Killed a nine-headed hydra 18386 | Lair:3 | Received a gift from Trog 18931 | Lair:3 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 58/92 MP: 1/4 Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Hand axe | 93 | 193 | 144 | || 430 War axe | | | 250 | 35 || 285 Broad axe | | | 66 | 629 || 695 Fire: Bow | | | 46 | 202 || 248 Throw: Dart | | 55 | 24 | || 79 Hand axe | | | 1 | || 1 Invok: Burn Spellbooks | | 1 | | 1 || 2 Berserk | | | 11 | 3 || 14 Brothers in Arms | | | | 1 || 1 Evoke: Wand | | | | 10 || 10 Use: Scroll | | | 13 | 15 || 28 Potion | | | 1 | || 1 Stab: Paralysed | | | | 2 || 2

Monday, 22nd July 2013, 01:26 by Siegurt

Actually min delay isn't 160/2 or 200/2, either one can get down to 70% so at max skill they are the same speed.

Broad axe requires (160-70)/10 = 9 * 2 = 18 axe skill
Executioner's axe requires (200-70)/10 = 13*2 = 26 axe skill

Monday, 22nd July 2013, 01:37 by One-Eyed Jack

delarado wrote:I think I mistakenly levelled Int at one point, and my Dex looks a little low. Is there any way to tell what I've been levelling when levelling up? As I think I've been doing it wrong!

MiBe starts with 4 int and doesn't gain it naturally, so you must have put 2 points into it.

delarado wrote:What do I do with the deck of cards? is this something to do with nemelex?

Decks of cards can be evoked to give random effects based on the type of deck, scaling with evocations skill. Nemelex gives several card-based abilities and gifts several types of decks that are much easier to predict and utilize than decks found around the dungeon.

delarado wrote:Which axe is better, the executioner or the broad axe? I work it out that the broad axe is better, even with both at min delay (For which Id have to train for the executioners)...workings:

For min delay with broad axe I need 16 skill, which gives me 0.25 damage when dividing damage by delay (13+7)/(160/2) = 0.25
For min delay with exec axe I need 20 skill, which gives me 0.24 damage when dividing damage by delay (18+6)/(200/2)= 0.24

The accuracy rating on the broad axe is also better, so I presume that makes it a more effective weapon? (quicker and more accurate attacks?)

I don't know where you're getting your math, but an exe axe has the same min delay as a broad axe and does nearly 50% more base damage (which is multiplied by weapon skill), so it's a dramatically better weapon at high skill levels (although min delay on it is only reached at 26 axe skill, broad axe at 18)

delarado wrote:Is it worth keeping hold of the RElec scimi or shall i Just dump it?

you may as well but you can also drop it and return if you need to kill nikola/eels or whatever

delarado wrote:I had a shield for a while, but I dropped it as I thought it was probably slowing my attacks down far too much. Can anyone confirm or deny? I stashed it, but as you can see theres also a buckler right there...

shields slow speed somewhat unless you have enough skill (which is 5 for a buckler.) I wouldn't bother raising shield skill because you want to get a battleaxe/exe axe on this character

delarado wrote:Anything else I should try and get hold of? I'm focusing armor training now. Trained bows just a little bit as they are really handy for taking out enemies from groups as they close, or kiting groups of slugs/snails (And gastronok when i find him!)

You should be training axes right now, then some fighting

Monday, 22nd July 2013, 01:47 by delarado

Thanks, I missed the part where someone said about the 70% limit in one of my other threads, only remembered the bit about half their current delay, so I thought the executioner axe had a higher min delay than the broad.

So, Broad Axe (13+7)/70 = 0.285 damage at min delay
Executioner (18+6)/70 = 0.342 damage at min delay
Executioner (18+6)/95 = 0.282 damage at 95% delay

(200-95)/10 = 10.5 * 2 = 21 axe skill required to match Broad Axe performance.

So basically switch back to training axes, use broad axe until 21 and then switch to executioner axe, keep training till 26 then switch to armour again...I think

Monday, 22nd July 2013, 01:51 by One-Eyed Jack

Damage is more than base damage + slaying bonuses. It's affected also by skills and stats, the former of which (at least) multiplies base damage but not slaying bonuses. This means that weapons with high base damage will do more damage than weapons with lower base damage but higher slaying bonuses.

In this case, I would probably switch to the exe axe at 20 skill because that will get you 1.0 aut attacks, which means you won't get double attacked

Monday, 22nd July 2013, 07:54 by daggaz

Its actually fine that you put a couple points into int, as there are monsters out there that specifically drain your brains and this can kill you. Think of it as shoring up your weakest point of defense.

Monday, 22nd July 2013, 08:08 by nago

In 0.13 stat death has been removed, so int drain is even less dangerous than before. Just carry always one restore pot and be aware that with 0 or less int suffer some penalties and don't waste any more stat point on int, especially if you go for a 3 rune game - when stat drain is exceptionally uncommon.

Monday, 22nd July 2013, 08:31 by daggaz

0.13, now with less of everything that is annoying and stupid.

Monday, 22nd July 2013, 09:43 by delarado

Ok thanks guys, im going to get started a little later back on this game, will let you know how I get on.

Monday, 22nd July 2013, 12:08 by delarado

Going well so far... what now, Lair:8 (Last time I died) or orcish mines?

I presume those are my two options? If so, what do I need for orcish mines, I have lots of stuff in stash. I presume a ring of protection from negative energy would be good, cant think what else I'd need unless I get sent to the abyss by an annoying orc? (Does amulet of stasis stop this?)

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.13-a0-2496-g11650dd (webtiles) character file. Delarado the Severer (Minotaur Berserker) Turns: 26539, Time: 03:44:09 HP 110/110 AC 24 Str 23 XL: 13 Next: 34% MP 1/1 EV 7 Int 6 God: Trog [****..] Gold 830 SH 0 Dex 12 Spells: 0 memorised, 12 levels left Res.Fire : + + . See Invis. : . a - +3,+7 dwarf broad axe (antimagic) Res.Cold : . . . Warding : . Q - +3 orc plate armour Life Prot.: . . . Conserve : . (no shield) Res.Poison: + Res.Corr. : . (helmet restricted) Res.Elec. : . Clarity : + (no cloak) Sust.Abil.: . . Spirit.Shd : . k - +1 pair of gloves {rF+} Res.Mut. : . Stasis : . G - +0 pair of boots Res.Rott. : . Flight : . i - amulet of clarity Saprovore : . . . R - ring of protection from fire o - ring of poison resistance @: somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy A: retaliatory headbutt, horns 2 a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion You are on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts. You worship Trog. Trog is extremely pleased with you. You are not hungry. You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 18 of its levels. You have also visited: Volcano. You have collected 1104 gold pieces. You have spent 294 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons a - a +3,+7 dwarven anti-magic broad axe (weapon) q - an uncursed bow of flame Missiles D - 34 arrows Armour k - a +1 pair of gloves of fire resistance (worn) G - a +0 pair of boots (worn) Q - a +3 orcish plate armour (worn) Magical devices m - a wand of slowing {zapped: 3} x - a wand of fire {zapped: 1} B - a wand of paralysis {zapped: 2} N - a wand of confusion {zapped: 2} T - a wand of lightning {zapped: 1} U - a wand of cold {zapped: 5} Comestibles c - 7 bread rations d - 3 meat rations X - a royal jelly Scrolls f - 2 scrolls of teleportation n - a scroll of recharging s - 2 scrolls of remove curse C - 4 scrolls of blinking O - 2 scrolls labeled WEGGITI XEQEE P - 2 scrolls of fear W - a scroll of fog Jewellery b - a cursed amulet of conservation e - an uncursed square golden amulet {tried} h - the amulet of Arrival {rCorr rF+} (You acquired it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts) [amulet of resist corrosion] It protects you from fire. i - an amulet of clarity (around neck) o - a ring of poison resistance (left hand) R - a ring of protection from fire (right hand) Y - a ring of protection from cold Potions g - 14 potions of curing p - 3 potions of agility E - 2 potions of brilliance F - 3 potions of heal wounds H - 3 potions of flight L - 2 potions of speed V - 2 potions of restore abilities Books w - a book of Wizardry Spells Type Level Summon Elemental Summoning 4 Agony Necromancy 5 Force Lance Conjuration 5 Fireball Conjuration/Fire 5 Haste Charms 6 Invisibility Hexes 6 Trog disapproves of the use of such an item. Miscellaneous y - an ornate deck of cards M - a plain deck of cards Skills: + Level 10.3 Fighting * Level 17.3 Axes - Level 4.2 Bows + Level 16.2 Armour - Level 2.1 Dodging Level 4.4 Shields You have 12 spell levels left. You don't know any spells. Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (10/27) Temple (1/1) D:5 Orc (0/4) D:8 Lair (7/8) D:10 Shoals (0/5) Lair:6 Snake (0/5) Lair:5 Slime (0/6) Lair:7 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Elyvilon Kikubaaqudgha Okawaru Trog Xom Yredelemnul Zin the Shining One Shops: D:4: ( D:5: ! D:6: %/? Annotations D:9 7 exclusions Lair:2 exclusion: oklob plant Lair:5 1 exclusion Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You reflexively headbutt those who attack you in melee. You have a pair of horns on your head. Message History Pick up an uncursed ring of protection from cold? ((y)es/(n)o/(a)ll/(m)enu/*?g,/q) Pick up 4 scrolls of recharging? ((y)es/(n)o/(a)ll/(m)enu/*?g,/q) Pick up an uncursed ring of ice? ((y)es/(n)o/(a)ll/(m)enu/*?g,/q) Pick up a scroll of enchant weapon I? ((y)es/(n)o/(a)ll/(m)enu/*?g,/q) Pick up a cursed amulet of conservation? ((y)es/(n)o/(a)ll/(m)enu/*?g,/q) b - a cursed amulet of conservation Pick up an uncursed amulet of stasis? ((y)es/(n)o/(a)ll/(m)enu/*?g,/q) Pick up the amulet of Arrival {rCorr rF+}? ((y)es/(n)o/(a)ll/(m)enu/*?g,/q) h - the amulet of Arrival {rCorr rF+} Pick up a +1,+6 anti-magic executioner's axe? ((y)es/(n)o/(a)ll/(m)enu/*?g,/q) Pick up the sabre of Perfectionism {elec, Str+3 Int-2 Stlth++, was cursed}? ((y)es/(n)o/(a)ll/(m)enu/*?g,/q) Pick up a +0,+0 war axe? ((y)es/(n)o/(a)ll/(m)enu/*?g,/q) Pick up an uncursed quarterstaff of protection {god gift}? ((y)es/(n)o/(a)ll/(m)enu/*?g,/q) Pick up an uncursed ring of flight? ((y)es/(n)o/(a)ll/(m)enu/*?g,/q) Pick up a +1,+2 bow of evasion? ((y)es/(n)o/(a)ll/(m)enu/*?g,/q) Pick up an uncursed ring of ice? ((y)es/(n)o/(a)ll/(m)enu/*?g,/q) Pick up a +0 shield? 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Vanquished Creatures A death yak (Lair:6) Erolcha (D:8) A lindwurm (Volcano) 6 statues (Volcano) A griffon (Lair:5) Maurice (D:7) 4 black mambas 4 elephants (Lair:7) 13 spiny frogs 3 fire drakes 5 komodo dragons A two-headed ogre (D:8) A boulder beetle (Lair:5) 8 blink frogs 4 basilisks An elephant slug (Lair:3) Eustachio (D:9) A steam dragon (D:8) 20 yaks 5 hippogriffs Menkaure (D:6) A manticore (Volcano) 3 porcupines A necrophage (D:8) 5 orc warriors 4 black bears A sky beast (D:8) 3 giant goldfish (Lair:2) 3 ice beasts 2 boring beetles 7 ogres 4 centaurs 5 crocodiles 8 giant slugs 4 wargs 8 water moccasins 2 lava worms (Volcano) A manticore zombie (D:9) A gnoll sergeant (D:5) 5 agate snails 17 giant frogs A troll zombie (D:8) 2 fire bats (Volcano) 23 killer bees 4 electric eels (Lair:5) A yak skeleton (D:9) A quasit (D:7) 5 crimson imps A giant frog zombie (D:5) 3 goliath beetles 2 big fish (Lair:5) 4 orc priests A two-headed ogre zombie (D:7) A giant frog skeleton (D:4) 6 iguanas 3 lava snakes (Volcano) 9 hounds A scorpion (D:7) 7 worker ants 9 orc wizards 4 jellies 12 sheep An ogre skeleton (D:7) 23 adders 23 gnolls 58 green rats A worm zombie (D:8) 4 giant mites 3 giant centipedes 3 worms An iguana skeleton (D:6) An adder skeleton (D:9) 3 giant eyeballs 6 giant geckos 18 oozes 46 orcs 15 bats 3 bat zombies 15 goblins 12 hobgoblins 21 jackals 17 kobolds 6 giant cockroaches A giant gecko zombie (D:5) 8 giant newts A giant newt skeleton (D:4) A gnoll skeleton (D:6) A goblin zombie (D:5) A hobgoblin skeleton (D:5) A kobold skeleton (D:4) 2 orc skeletons 12 quokkas A quokka skeleton (D:4) 31 rats A rat zombie (D:8) A ballistomycete (D:9) A bush (D:5) 12 fungi 5 plants 628 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) 4 hydras 3 death yaks (Lair:7) A spiny frog (Lair:4) 2 electric eels (Lair:5) 6 big fish (Lair:5) A green rat (Lair:7) An adder (Lair:4) 18 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A necrophage (D:9) An ogre (Lair:7) An adder (D:9) A green rat (Lair:7) 2 giant spores (D:9) 4 fungi A plant (Lair:5) 11 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 657 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Delarado, the Minotaur Berserker, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 19/19 MP: 0/0 61 | D:1 | Reached skill level 4 in Axes 161 | D:1 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados. 291 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 20/26 MP: 0/0 1127 | D:1 | Acquired Trog's second power 1127 | D:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Axes 1139 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 16/33 MP: 1/1 2091 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 7/39 MP: 1/1 2373 | D:3 | Reached skill level 6 in Axes 3706 | D:4 | Reached skill level 7 in Axes 3706 | D:4 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 46/46 MP: 1/1 3925 | D:4 | Reached skill level 8 in Axes 4094 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 4100 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 4100 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 52/52 MP: 2/2 4197 | D:4 | Acquired Trog's third power 4237 | D:4 | Found Trerph's Antique Weapon Boutique. 4258 | D:4 | Reached skill level 9 in Axes 4532 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 4574 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 56/59 MP: 2/2 4708 | D:5 | Reached skill level 10 in Axes 4802 | D:5 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 5534 | D:5 | Reached skill level 11 in Axes 5692 | D:5 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin. 5692 | D:5 | Noticed an angel 5764 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 33/66 MP: 2/2 6116 | D:5 | Reached skill level 12 in Axes 6266 | D:5 | Found Skiff's Distillery. 6270 | D:5 | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 42 gold pieces 6334 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 6366 | D:6 | Found Imuden's Magic Scroll Boutique. 6592 | D:6 | Found Nuxuid's Magical Wand Emporium. 6688 | D:6 | Noticed Menkaure 6729 | D:6 | Killed Menkaure 6861 | D:6 | Reached skill level 13 in Axes 7008 | D:6 | Bought a scroll of magic mapping for 45 gold pieces 7008 | D:6 | Bought a scroll of identify for 26 gold pieces 7008 | D:6 | Bought a scroll of identify for 26 gold pieces 7008 | D:6 | Bought a scroll of remove curse for 39 gold pieces 7008 | D:6 | Bought a scroll of enchant armour for 71 gold pieces 7008 | D:6 | Bought a scroll of fear for 45 gold pieces 7013 | D:6 | Found Golacy's Food Emporium. 7061 | D:6 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns 7911 | D:7 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 7991 | D:7 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 72/72 MP: 3/3 8125 | D:7 | Reached skill level 14 in Axes 8184 | D:7 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 9158 | D:8 | Noticed Maurice 9168 | D:7 | Reached skill level 15 in Axes 9170 | D:7 | Received a gift from Trog 9269 | D:7 | Killed Maurice 9406 | D:8 | Reached skill level 16 in Axes 9591 | D:8 | Reached skill level 1 in Shields 9602 | D:8 | Reached skill level 1 in Bows 9602 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 48/79 MP: 1/3 9880 | D:8 | Noticed Erolcha 9880 | D:8 | Paralysed by Erolcha for 4 turns 9891 | D:8 | Paralysed by Erolcha for 2 turns 9897 | D:8 | Killed Erolcha 10152 | D:8 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns 10159 | D:8 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns 10165 | D:8 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns 10179 | D:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Armour 10401 | D:8 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 11667 | D:9 | Noticed Eustachio 11737 | D:9 | Killed Eustachio 12730 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 12735 | D:9 | Received a gift from Trog 13034 | D:10 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 14219 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 14305 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 40/84 MP: 1/3 14651 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Armour 14998 | Lair:1 | Received a gift from Trog 15189 | Lair:1 | Got a crude broad axe 15190 | Lair:1 | Identified the cursed broad axe of Ukozaik {chop, rElec} (You found it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts) 15848 | Lair:2 | Identified a scroll of acquirement 15849 | Lair:2 | Got a crude tin amulet 16551 | Lair:2 | Received a gift from Trog 17571 | Lair:3 | Got an encrusted sabre 17572 | Lair:3 | Identified the cursed sabre of Perfectionism {elec, Str+3 Int-2 Stlth++} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) 18027 | Lair:3 | Noticed an eight-headed hydra 18033 | Lair:3 | Killed a nine-headed hydra 18386 | Lair:3 | Received a gift from Trog 18931 | Lair:3 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 58/92 MP: 1/4 19741 | Lair:2 | Upgraded the game from 0.13-a0-2488-g1078ce8 to 0.13-a0-2496-g11650dd 19771 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 15 in Armour 19774 | Lair:4 | zammy: train fighting 19774 | Lair:4 | zammy: it is quite important 19774 | Lair:4 | Delarado: ill do it like this for a while then 19806 | Lair:4 | zammy: i allwys keep fight, weapon skill and armour on since minotaur has great aptitudes in them 19879 | Lair:4 | Noticed a six-headed hydra 19880 | Lair:4 | Delarado: i HATE hydras 19880 | Lair:4 | Delarado: i normally BIA and RTFA until its dead... 19880 | Lair:4 | zammy: well i'm off to get some coffee, try not to die 19880 | Lair:4 | Delarado: ok mate, fingers crossed 19880 | Lair:4 | zammy: fire axe would solve the problem 19880 | Lair:4 | Delarado: yeah, i dont have one :( 19880 | Lair:4 | zammy: of course. no fire axe = lots of hydran 19882 | Lair:4 | zammy: you know how to use spellbook bombs? 19882 | Lair:4 | Delarado: no whats that? 19882 | Lair:4 | zammy: trog gives ability to burn spellbooks 19882 | Lair:4 | Delarado: oh yes, ive used that 19882 | Lair:4 | zammy: drop a book, stand infort of it, wait for mosnter to walk over it and set it on fire 19882 | Lair:4 | zammy: and watch the monster buuurn 19882 | Lair:4 | Delarado: does it do a lot of damage? 19882 | Lair:4 | Delarado: good tip, thanks 19884 | Lair:4 | zammy: it can kill a hydra or at least severly damage it 19903 | Lair:4 | Killed a seven-headed hydra 19917 | Lair:4 | Delarado: F*CK YOU HYDRA! 19917 | Lair:4 | Delarado: i stopped playing TrBe because of hydra lol 20025 | Lair:4 | Identified the amulet of Arrival {rCorr rF+} (You acquired it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts) 20338 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 20618 | Lair:4 | Noticed an eight-headed hydra 20622 | Lair:4 | Killed an eight-headed hydra 21200 | Lair:5 | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit. 21609 | Lair:5 | Noticed a six-headed hydra 21670 | Lair:6 | Got a shimmering chain mail 21690 | Lair:6 | Identified the +8 chain mail "Seses" {Str+1 Dex+4 Dam+2} (You found it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts) 21967 | Lair:6 | Found a staircase to the Shoals. 22524 | Lair:7 | zammy: still alive i see 22524 | Lair:7 | Delarado: yes 22524 | Lair:7 | Delarado: researching this volcano 22524 | Lair:7 | Delarado: i found a damn amulet of faith 22524 | Lair:7 | zammy: and wore it? 22524 | Lair:7 | Delarado: i didnt realise how much piety it removed 22524 | Lair:7 | zammy: well now you know. never wear an unidentified amulet 22524 | Lair:7 | Delarado: so i lost brothers in arms 22524 | Lair:7 | Delarado: and nearly died to a hydra 22524 | Lair:7 | zammy: nearly died is still survival :) 22524 | Lair:7 | Delarado: i had to teleport scroll 22524 | Lair:7 | zammy: you can identify wands by zapping yourself 22524 | Lair:7 | zammy: just make sure you are in a safe place 22524 | Lair:7 | Delarado: should i go get my amulate of conservation 22524 | Lair:7 | Delarado: or just drop my scrolls before i go into the volcano 22525 | Lair:7 | zammy: i'd drop scrolls 22545 | Lair:7 | Delarado: im not gonna kill myself with wand am i? 22547 | Lair:6 | zammy: nope 22548 | Lair:6 | zammy: there is no wand that can kill you from full hp 22548 | Lair:6 | zammy: now just wait it out 22596 | Lair:6 | Delarado: im scared to try out that golden amulet now lol 22596 | Lair:6 | zammy: don't you make a stash? 22596 | Lair:6 | Delarado: yes 22596 | Lair:6 | Delarado: i dont know what to drop though, its got craploads in it on lair:2 22596 | Lair:6 | zammy: nods 22596 | Lair:6 | Delarado: ill find this volcano 22596 | Lair:6 | Delarado: then ill show you stacsh 23020 | Lair:7 | Delarado: should i magic mapping to find this volcano? 23020 | Lair:7 | Delarado: since its fire themed im hoping ill find a fire branded waepon for hydra 23121 | Lair:7 | Found a dark tunnel. 23144 | Lair:7 | Delarado: do you think I have time to go get it? 23144 | Lair:7 | zammy: you got at all fire resisnace 23144 | Lair:7 | Delarado: only in that amulet in my stash like 5 floors away 23144 | Lair:7 | Delarado: you think the volcano will close if i go get it? 23144 | Lair:7 | zammy: don't knwo if toy got enough time before this portal closes 23144 | Lair:7 | Delarado: :( 23144 | Lair:7 | Delarado: you think i should just go for it? 23144 | Lair:7 | zammy: just see it out. it's not that rare that you need to leave empty-handed 23144 | Lair:7 | zammy: there is allways a way out near where you enter 23144 | Lair:7 | Delarado: ok 23144 | Lair:7 | Delarado: ill go in in a sec then 23144 | Lair:7 | Delarado: just on phone 23147 | Volcano | Entered a volcano 23164 | Volcano | Delarado: **** lava snakes 23164 | Volcano | Delarado: i had one of these before, pain in the cock 23164 | Volcano | zammy: yeah, nasty without rf 23164 | Volcano | zammy: you got dig wand? 23164 | Volcano | zammy: (not sure if you can dig ehre thou) 23164 | Volcano | Delarado: nope 23164 | Volcano | zammy: hmm 23164 | Volcano | Delarado: maybe that ring 23164 | Volcano | zammy: quite a long shot 23164 | Volcano | zammy: you can allways kill the snakes 23164 | Volcano | Delarado: how? 23164 | Volcano | Delarado: bow? Or wands? 23164 | Volcano | zammy: they are vulnerable to cold, so back up so you can only see one and use the frost wand 23165 | Volcano | zammy: or cold wand 23166 | Volcano | zammy: use that, it hits both 23226 | Volcano | Delarado: oh nuts that means the walls are going to fall in doesnt it 23226 | Volcano | zammy: no it doesn 23226 | Volcano | zammy: just back up a bit 23229 | Volcano | zammy: volcano erupst. it blasts fire near the lava 23229 | Volcano | zammy: you are safe there 23229 | Volcano | Delarado: so i can go back in now? 23229 | Volcano | zammy: yeah 23248 | Volcano | zammy: carefull, stay near the wall 23253 | Volcano | Delarado: kill it or ignore? 23253 | Volcano | zammy: lava fishes are harmless 23253 | Volcano | zammy: mostly :) 23253 | Volcano | zammy: just ignore it 23254 | Volcano | zammy: the longer you want the bigget chances that you are caught in the eruption 23257 | Volcano | zammy: wait 23257 | Volcano | Delarado: should i quaff speed? 23257 | Volcano | zammy: don't think so 23257 | Volcano | zammy: just keep on walking 23257 | Volcano | Delarado: am i still waiting? Im scared :) 23258 | Volcano | zammy: of i was correcting my typo want = wait :D 23267 | Volcano | zammy: there is the other chamber 23272 | Volcano | zammy: enter, kill everything, loot 23272 | Volcano | Delarado: there are monsters here i presume 23272 | Volcano | Delarado: ill wait to regen hp 23352 | Volcano | zammy: never seen those. new mob 23352 | Volcano | zammy: i'd go berserk and hit them hard and fast 23352 | Volcano | Delarado: well they cant move 23352 | Volcano | Delarado: so shouldnt i just run past 23352 | Volcano | zammy: kill them 23352 | Volcano | zammy: if you need to retreat for some reason you'll die then 23352 | Volcano | Delarado: ok...they do 20 damage and have 70hp lol 23352 | Volcano | zammy: berserk, kill one and go heal 23358 | Volcano | zammy: or kill both 23409 | Volcano | zammy: berserking is a damn powerfull toll when used right 23554 | Volcano | Delarado: wand of cold? 23554 | Volcano | zammy: yeah 23574 | Volcano | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 23575 | Volcano | Delarado: is this it? 23575 | Volcano | Delarado: :) 23578 | Volcano | Reached XP level 13. HP: 94/107 MP: 1/4 23622 | Volcano | zammy: loot, sweet loot 23983 | Volcano | Delarado: can you tell me whats better, i have a nice chain mail 23983 | Volcano | Delarado: or an enchanted plate 23983 | Volcano | zammy: i'l use platemail 23983 | Volcano | zammy: gdr is important 23983 | Volcano | Delarado: GDR? 23983 | Volcano | zammy: guaranteed damage reduction 23983 | Volcano | Delarado: even though i get +3 str and +4 dex from the chain? 23983 | Volcano | zammy: each type of armour takes away fixed % of every melee hit you get 23983 | Volcano | zammy: platemail has 38% iirc 23983 | Volcano | Delarado: ah ok 24002 | Volcano | zammy: http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Armour 24002 | Volcano | zammy: that is usefull to read at some point 24031 | Lair:7 | Delarado: hahahah that ring was a protection from fire 24044 | Lair:7 | Delarado: now some death yaks 24148 | Lair:7 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 24437 | Lair:7 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits. 24535 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting 24567 | Lair:7 | Delarado: can i split stacks of arrows? 24697 | Lair:6 | Reached skill level 17 in Axes 24854 | Lair:7 | Received a gift from Trog 25125 | Lair:5 | zammy: yes you can 25138 | Lair:5 | zammy: select drop, type the numder you want to drop then select letter for the stack 25142 | Lair:5 | zammy: there 25142 | Lair:5 | Delarado: thanks 25152 | Lair:5 | zammy: those are rather poorly explained. took quite some time to learn that myself 25158 | Lair:5 | Killed a six-headed hydra 26508 | Lair:2 | zammy: well i'm off. good luck and try not to die 26508 | Lair:2 | Delarado: ok mate thanks for your help 26508 | Lair:2 | Delarado: im gonna stop soon anyway 26508 | Lair:2 | Delarado: need to do some work today :) 26508 | Lair:2 | Delarado: would you mind 26508 | Lair:2 | Delarado: just quickly...what should i drop? 26516 | Lair:2 | zammy: i don't carry many wands 26516 | Lair:2 | zammy: since i rarely use them anyway 26516 | Lair:2 | zammy: like random effects, it's useless 26516 | Lair:2 | Delarado: yeah i find i dont use them 26517 | Lair:2 | zammy: and stash all enchant armour scrolls 26517 | Lair:2 | zammy: to use on something good 26521 | Lair:2 | zammy: no point carrying them 26522 | Lair:2 | Delarado: yeah i acutally used some on this armor stupidly 26522 | Lair:2 | Delarado: what about cards and un id'd pots? 26522 | Lair:2 | Delarado: and jewellery? ( I have like ring of regen etc Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Hand axe | 93 | 193 | 144 | | || 430 War axe | | | 250 | 35 | || 285 Broad axe | | | 66 | 875 | 125 || 1066 Fire: Bow | | | 46 | 231 | 28 || 305 Throw: Dart | | 55 | 24 | | || 79 Hand axe | | | 1 | | || 1 Invok: Burn Spellbooks | | 1 | | 1 | || 2 Berserk | | | 11 | 5 | 2 || 18 Brothers in Arms | | | | 3 | 3 || 6 Evoke: Wand | | | | 29 | 1 || 30 Use: Scroll | | | 13 | 20 | 1 || 34 Potion | | | 1 | | || 1 Stab: Paralysed | | | | 2 | || 2

Monday, 22nd July 2013, 12:23 by Sandman25

No, stasis does not prevent banishment. MR helps to resist the spell.

There is no defense vs banishment caused by distortion weapon.

I would try Lair 8 but be ready to go into Orcs if it's too hard.

I think you can train Dodging instead of Armour, EV 7 is too little. Broad Axe needs 18 Axes, no need to train the skill above this point yet.

Monday, 22nd July 2013, 13:27 by delarado

Sandman25 wrote:No, stasis does not prevent banishment. MR helps to resist the spell.

There is no defense vs banishment caused by distortion weapon.

I would try Lair 8 but be ready to go into Orcs if it's too hard.

I think you can train Dodging instead of Armour, EV 7 is too little. Broad Axe needs 18 Axes, no need to train the skill above this point yet.

Thanks, I have a god gift executioner I'm training for. I'll train some evasion and head down to Lair:8. I only died last time because I got too cocky with a dire elephant...

I have some kind of magic resistance doo-dah, so I'll make sure to don it when in the Orcish mines (It is orcs that can send you to abyss isnt it?

Monday, 22nd July 2013, 16:09 by Siegurt

delarado wrote:
Sandman25 wrote:No, stasis does not prevent banishment. MR helps to resist the spell.

There is no defense vs banishment caused by distortion weapon.

I would try Lair 8 but be ready to go into Orcs if it's too hard.

I think you can train Dodging instead of Armour, EV 7 is too little. Broad Axe needs 18 Axes, no need to train the skill above this point yet.

Thanks, I have a god gift executioner I'm training for. I'll train some evasion and head down to Lair:8. I only died last time because I got too cocky with a dire elephant...

I have some kind of magic resistance doo-dah, so I'll make sure to don it when in the Orcish mines (It is orcs that can send you to abyss isnt it?

There aren't any orcs who can banish you to the abyss with the spell (Anything that uses weapons could rarely be generated with a distortion weapon) Ogre mages can sometimes be found in the orc mines and can banish you.

Tuesday, 23rd July 2013, 08:24 by delarado

So, Orcish mines done...That was a surprise!

Easy peasy lemon squeezy up till the bit with the shops, then ZOMG demons & Sorcerers smiting me everywhere. Any way to stop me getting smited? I had to quaff curing, healing, read teleport twice, and use BIA 3 times just to stay afloat. I'm worried I burned quite a lot of consumables!

What now then? Snake pit (Shoals and Slime seem too difficult for me at the moment) Or further down in the dungeon?

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.13-a0-2505-g5f0fbe2 (webtiles) character file. Delarado the Severer (Minotaur Berserker) Turns: 32718, Time: 04:58:34 HP 118/118 AC 25 Str 23 XL: 14 Next: 25% MP 4/4 EV 7 Int 6 God: Trog [*****.] Gold 1821 SH 0 Dex 12 Spells: 0 memorised, 13 levels left Res.Fire : + + . See Invis. : . q - bow (flame) Res.Cold : . . . Warding : . Q - +3 orc plate armour Life Prot.: . . . Conserve : . (no shield) Res.Poison: . Res.Corr. : . (helmet restricted) Res.Elec. : . Clarity : + (no cloak) Sust.Abil.: . . Spirit.Shd : . k - +1 pair of gloves {rF+} Res.Mut. : . Stasis : . G - +0 pair of boots Res.Rott. : . Flight : . i - amulet of clarity Saprovore : . . . R - ring of protection from fire S - ring of protection from magic @: quite resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy A: retaliatory headbutt, horns 2 a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion You are on level 4 of the Orcish Mines. You worship Trog. Trog is exalted by your worship. You are not hungry. You have visited 4 branches of the dungeon, and seen 23 of its levels. You have also visited: Volcano. You have collected 2129 gold pieces. You have spent 328 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand weapons a - a +3,+7 dwarven anti-magic broad axe e - the -6,-3 broad axe of Change {freeze, rC+ Int-1} (Trog gifted it to you on level 2 of the Orcish Mines) It has been specially enchanted to freeze those struck by it, causing extra injury to most foes and up to double damage against particularly susceptible opponents. It can also slow down cold-blooded creatures. It affects your intelligence (-1). It protects you from cold. h - a glowing orcish mace l - an uncursed dagger of venom {god gift} o - an uncursed orcish hammer of crushing p - a glowing orcish scimitar q - an uncursed bow of flame (weapon) r - a +0,+8 dwarven anti-magic battleaxe Missiles D - 18 arrows (quivered) Armour k - a +1 pair of gloves of fire resistance (worn) t - an orcish plate armour G - a +0 pair of boots (worn) Q - a +3 orcish plate armour (worn) Magical devices m - a wand of slowing {zapped: 3} s - a wand of polymorph {zapped: 1} x - a wand of fire {zapped: 1} B - a wand of paralysis {zapped: 3} N - a wand of confusion {zapped: 2} T - a wand of lightning {zapped: 1} U - a wand of cold {zapped: 5} Comestibles c - 6 bread rations d - 3 meat rations f - 7 honeycombs X - a royal jelly Scrolls j - a scroll of identify n - a scroll of remove curse w - a scroll of teleportation z - a scroll of recharging C - a scroll of blinking O - 2 scrolls labeled WEGGITI XEQEE P - 2 scrolls of fear Jewellery b - an uncursed ring of flight i - an amulet of clarity (around neck) A - an uncursed opal ring {tried, was cursed} R - a ring of protection from fire (right hand) S - a ring of protection from magic (left hand) Potions g - 11 potions of curing u - a purple potion E - 2 potions of brilliance F - 2 potions of heal wounds H - 3 potions of flight I - 3 potions of agility L - 2 potions of speed V - 2 potions of restore abilities Miscellaneous y - an ornate deck of cards M - a plain deck of cards Skills: - Level 10.8 Fighting * Level 19.9 Axes - Level 4.2 Bows - Level 16.5 Armour - Level 2.1 Dodging Level 4.4 Shields You have 13 spell levels left. You don't know any spells. Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (10/27) Temple (1/1) D:5 Orc (4/4) D:8 Elf (0/3) Orc:4 Lair (8/8) D:10 Shoals (0/5) Lair:6 Snake (0/5) Lair:5 Slime (0/6) Lair:7 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Elyvilon Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Okawaru Trog Xom Yredelemnul Zin the Shining One Beogh Shops: D:4: ( D:5: ! D:6: %/? Orc:3: * Orc:4: }%[* Annotations D:9 7 exclusions Lair:2 exclusion: oklob plant Lair:5 1 exclusion Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You reflexively headbutt those who attack you in melee. You have a pair of horns on your head. Message History Trog accepts your kill. D - 12 arrows (gained 1) You see here an orcish hand axe. D - 13 arrows (gained 1) Magic restored. D - 17 arrows (gained 4) Items here: )))) [ an orcish war axe; an orcish robe; an orcish spear; an orcish hand axe an orcish dire flail D - 18 arrows (gained 1) Things that are here: an orcish dagger; an orcish chain mail Things that are here: an orcish dagger; a glowing orcish dagger; an orcish hand axe Things that are here: an orcish ring mail; an orcish dagger; an orcish chain mail an orcish short sword Done exploring. Char dumped successfully. Saving game... please wait. .........[## #...####### ........#.####....#.##.## .........).##.).........# ............##......##.## ......#.............#### .....................## ......................# ...................#.## ................@.#### ))..................## .)...................## .))...................## ....<....#.............# ....).........[#....#.## ..............[##.##### ......#.........### ......###........# There are no monsters in sight! Vanquished Creatures A dragon (Lair:8) A death yak (Lair:6) 2 orc high priests (Orc:4) Erolcha (D:8) A lindwurm (Volcano) 6 statues (Volcano) 2 griffons 3 orc knights (Orc:4) Maurice (D:7) 5 black mambas 4 elephants (Lair:7) 16 spiny frogs A queen ant (Lair:8) 9 fire drakes 9 komodo dragons 2 polar bears (Lair:8) A two-headed ogre (D:8) A boulder beetle (Lair:5) A troll (Orc:4) 11 blink frogs 8 grizzly bears (Lair:8) 5 basilisks An elephant slug (Lair:3) Eustachio (D:9) 2 steam dragons 23 yaks 6 hippogriffs Menkaure (D:6) A manticore (Volcano) 3 porcupines A necrophage (D:8) 18 soldier ants (Lair:8) 13 orc warriors 4 black bears A sky beast (D:8) 3 giant goldfish (Lair:2) 3 ice beasts 2 boring beetles 8 ogres 4 centaurs 9 crocodiles 9 giant slugs 5 wargs 10 water moccasins 2 lava worms (Volcano) A manticore zombie (D:9) A gnoll sergeant (D:5) 5 agate snails 17 giant frogs A troll zombie (D:8) 2 fire bats (Volcano) 23 killer bees 4 electric eels (Lair:5) A yak skeleton (D:9) A quasit (D:7) 5 crimson imps A giant frog zombie (D:5) 3 goliath beetles 2 big fish (Lair:5) 15 orc priests A two-headed ogre zombie (D:7) A giant frog skeleton (D:4) 7 iguanas 3 lava snakes (Volcano) 9 hounds A scorpion (D:7) 24 worker ants 18 orc wizards 4 jellies 12 sheep An ogre skeleton (D:7) 28 adders 23 gnolls 68 green rats An orc zombie (Orc:4) A worm zombie (D:8) 4 giant mites 3 giant centipedes 3 worms An iguana skeleton (D:6) An adder skeleton (D:9) 3 giant eyeballs 6 giant geckos 18 oozes 126 orcs 15 bats 3 bat zombies 20 goblins 14 hobgoblins 21 jackals 17 kobolds 6 giant cockroaches A giant gecko zombie (D:5) 8 giant newts A giant newt skeleton (D:4) A gnoll skeleton (D:6) A goblin zombie (D:5) A hobgoblin skeleton (D:5) A kobold skeleton (D:4) 2 orc skeletons 12 quokkas A quokka skeleton (D:4) 31 rats A rat zombie (D:8) A ballistomycete (D:9) A bush (D:5) 14 fungi 12 plants 855 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) 5 hydras 3 death yaks (Lair:7) An orc high priest (Orc:4) 2 orc knights 4 orc sorcerers (Orc:4) A sixfirhy (Orc:4) 2 spiny frogs An orange demon (Orc:4) A troll (Orc:4) 4 polar bears (Lair:8) 3 grizzly bears (Lair:8) A chaos spawn (Orc:4) 2 soldier ants (Lair:8) 4 orc warriors (Orc:4) 5 black bears (Lair:8) An orc zombie (Orc:4) A water moccasin (Lair:8) 2 electric eels (Lair:5) 2 orc priests 6 big fish (Lair:5) 3 worker ants (Lair:8) An orc wizard (Orc:4) A green rat (Lair:7) An adder (Lair:4) 8 orcs A goblin (Orc:4) A goblin zombie (Orc:4) 67 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A necrophage (D:9) An ogre (Lair:7) An iguana (Lair:8) An adder (D:9) A green rat (Lair:7) An orc zombie (Orc:4) 2 giant spores (D:9) 4 fungi 3 plants 15 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 937 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------------------------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Delarado, the Minotaur Berserker, began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 19/19 MP: 0/0 61 | D:1 | Reached skill level 4 in Axes 161 | D:1 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados. 291 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 20/26 MP: 0/0 1127 | D:1 | Acquired Trog's second power 1127 | D:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Axes 1139 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 16/33 MP: 1/1 2091 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 7/39 MP: 1/1 2373 | D:3 | Reached skill level 6 in Axes 3706 | D:4 | Reached skill level 7 in Axes 3706 | D:4 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 46/46 MP: 1/1 3925 | D:4 | Reached skill level 8 in Axes 4094 | D:4 | Noticed an ogre 4100 | D:4 | Killed an ogre 4100 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 52/52 MP: 2/2 4197 | D:4 | Acquired Trog's third power 4237 | D:4 | Found Trerph's Antique Weapon Boutique. 4258 | D:4 | Reached skill level 9 in Axes 4532 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 4574 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 56/59 MP: 2/2 4708 | D:5 | Reached skill level 10 in Axes 4802 | D:5 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 5534 | D:5 | Reached skill level 11 in Axes 5692 | D:5 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin. 5692 | D:5 | Noticed an angel 5764 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 33/66 MP: 2/2 6116 | D:5 | Reached skill level 12 in Axes 6266 | D:5 | Found Skiff's Distillery. 6270 | D:5 | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 42 gold pieces 6334 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 6366 | D:6 | Found Imuden's Magic Scroll Boutique. 6592 | D:6 | Found Nuxuid's Magical Wand Emporium. 6688 | D:6 | Noticed Menkaure 6729 | D:6 | Killed Menkaure 6861 | D:6 | Reached skill level 13 in Axes 7008 | D:6 | Bought a scroll of magic mapping for 45 gold pieces 7008 | D:6 | Bought a scroll of identify for 26 gold pieces 7008 | D:6 | Bought a scroll of identify for 26 gold pieces 7008 | D:6 | Bought a scroll of remove curse for 39 gold pieces 7008 | D:6 | Bought a scroll of enchant armour for 71 gold pieces 7008 | D:6 | Bought a scroll of fear for 45 gold pieces 7013 | D:6 | Found Golacy's Food Emporium. 7061 | D:6 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns 7911 | D:7 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 7991 | D:7 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 72/72 MP: 3/3 8125 | D:7 | Reached skill level 14 in Axes 8184 | D:7 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 9158 | D:8 | Noticed Maurice 9168 | D:7 | Reached skill level 15 in Axes 9170 | D:7 | Received a gift from Trog 9269 | D:7 | Killed Maurice 9406 | D:8 | Reached skill level 16 in Axes 9591 | D:8 | Reached skill level 1 in Shields 9602 | D:8 | Reached skill level 1 in Bows 9602 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 48/79 MP: 1/3 9880 | D:8 | Noticed Erolcha 9880 | D:8 | Paralysed by Erolcha for 4 turns 9891 | D:8 | Paralysed by Erolcha for 2 turns 9897 | D:8 | Killed Erolcha 10152 | D:8 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns 10159 | D:8 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns 10165 | D:8 | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns 10179 | D:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Armour 10401 | D:8 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 11667 | D:9 | Noticed Eustachio 11737 | D:9 | Killed Eustachio 12730 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 12735 | D:9 | Received a gift from Trog 13034 | D:10 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 14219 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 14305 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 40/84 MP: 1/3 14651 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Armour 14998 | Lair:1 | Received a gift from Trog 15189 | Lair:1 | Got a crude broad axe 15190 | Lair:1 | Identified the cursed broad axe of Ukozaik {chop, rElec} (You found it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts) 15848 | Lair:2 | Identified a scroll of acquirement 15849 | Lair:2 | Got a crude tin amulet 16551 | Lair:2 | Received a gift from Trog 17571 | Lair:3 | Got an encrusted sabre 17572 | Lair:3 | Identified the cursed sabre of Perfectionism {elec, Str+3 Int-2 Stlth++} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts) 18027 | Lair:3 | Noticed an eight-headed hydra 18033 | Lair:3 | Killed a nine-headed hydra 18386 | Lair:3 | Received a gift from Trog 18931 | Lair:3 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 58/92 MP: 1/4 19741 | Lair:2 | Upgraded the game from 0.13-a0-2488-g1078ce8 to 0.13-a0-2496-g11650dd 19771 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 15 in Armour 19774 | Lair:4 | zammy: train fighting 19774 | Lair:4 | zammy: it is quite important 19774 | Lair:4 | Delarado: ill do it like this for a while then 19806 | Lair:4 | zammy: i allwys keep fight, weapon skill and armour on since minotaur has great aptitudes in them 19879 | Lair:4 | Noticed a six-headed hydra 19880 | Lair:4 | Delarado: i HATE hydras 19880 | Lair:4 | Delarado: i normally BIA and RTFA until its dead... 19880 | Lair:4 | zammy: well i'm off to get some coffee, try not to die 19880 | Lair:4 | Delarado: ok mate, fingers crossed 19880 | Lair:4 | zammy: fire axe would solve the problem 19880 | Lair:4 | Delarado: yeah, i dont have one :( 19880 | Lair:4 | zammy: of course. no fire axe = lots of hydran 19882 | Lair:4 | zammy: you know how to use spellbook bombs? 19882 | Lair:4 | Delarado: no whats that? 19882 | Lair:4 | zammy: trog gives ability to burn spellbooks 19882 | Lair:4 | Delarado: oh yes, ive used that 19882 | Lair:4 | zammy: drop a book, stand infort of it, wait for mosnter to walk over it and set it on fire 19882 | Lair:4 | zammy: and watch the monster buuurn 19882 | Lair:4 | Delarado: does it do a lot of damage? 19882 | Lair:4 | Delarado: good tip, thanks 19884 | Lair:4 | zammy: it can kill a hydra or at least severly damage it 19903 | Lair:4 | Killed a seven-headed hydra 19917 | Lair:4 | Delarado: F*CK YOU HYDRA! 19917 | Lair:4 | Delarado: i stopped playing TrBe because of hydra lol 20025 | Lair:4 | Identified the amulet of Arrival {rCorr rF+} (You acquired it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts) 20338 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 20618 | Lair:4 | Noticed an eight-headed hydra 20622 | Lair:4 | Killed an eight-headed hydra 21200 | Lair:5 | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit. 21609 | Lair:5 | Noticed a six-headed hydra 21670 | Lair:6 | Got a shimmering chain mail 21690 | Lair:6 | Identified the +8 chain mail "Seses" {Str+1 Dex+4 Dam+2} (You found it on level 6 of the Lair of Beasts) 21967 | Lair:6 | Found a staircase to the Shoals. 22524 | Lair:7 | zammy: still alive i see 22524 | Lair:7 | Delarado: yes 22524 | Lair:7 | Delarado: researching this volcano 22524 | Lair:7 | Delarado: i found a damn amulet of faith 22524 | Lair:7 | zammy: and wore it? 22524 | Lair:7 | Delarado: i didnt realise how much piety it removed 22524 | Lair:7 | zammy: well now you know. never wear an unidentified amulet 22524 | Lair:7 | Delarado: so i lost brothers in arms 22524 | Lair:7 | Delarado: and nearly died to a hydra 22524 | Lair:7 | zammy: nearly died is still survival :) 22524 | Lair:7 | Delarado: i had to teleport scroll 22524 | Lair:7 | zammy: you can identify wands by zapping yourself 22524 | Lair:7 | zammy: just make sure you are in a safe place 22524 | Lair:7 | Delarado: should i go get my amulate of conservation 22524 | Lair:7 | Delarado: or just drop my scrolls before i go into the volcano 22525 | Lair:7 | zammy: i'd drop scrolls 22545 | Lair:7 | Delarado: im not gonna kill myself with wand am i? 22547 | Lair:6 | zammy: nope 22548 | Lair:6 | zammy: there is no wand that can kill you from full hp 22548 | Lair:6 | zammy: now just wait it out 22596 | Lair:6 | Delarado: im scared to try out that golden amulet now lol 22596 | Lair:6 | zammy: don't you make a stash? 22596 | Lair:6 | Delarado: yes 22596 | Lair:6 | Delarado: i dont know what to drop though, its got craploads in it on lair:2 22596 | Lair:6 | zammy: nods 22596 | Lair:6 | Delarado: ill find this volcano 22596 | Lair:6 | Delarado: then ill show you stacsh 23020 | Lair:7 | Delarado: should i magic mapping to find this volcano? 23020 | Lair:7 | Delarado: since its fire themed im hoping ill find a fire branded waepon for hydra 23121 | Lair:7 | Found a dark tunnel. 23144 | Lair:7 | Delarado: do you think I have time to go get it? 23144 | Lair:7 | zammy: you got at all fire resisnace 23144 | Lair:7 | Delarado: only in that amulet in my stash like 5 floors away 23144 | Lair:7 | Delarado: you think the volcano will close if i go get it? 23144 | Lair:7 | zammy: don't knwo if toy got enough time before this portal closes 23144 | Lair:7 | Delarado: :( 23144 | Lair:7 | Delarado: you think i should just go for it? 23144 | Lair:7 | zammy: just see it out. it's not that rare that you need to leave empty-handed 23144 | Lair:7 | zammy: there is allways a way out near where you enter 23144 | Lair:7 | Delarado: ok 23144 | Lair:7 | Delarado: ill go in in a sec then 23144 | Lair:7 | Delarado: just on phone 23147 | Volcano | Entered a volcano 23164 | Volcano | Delarado: fucking lava snakes 23164 | Volcano | Delarado: i had one of these before, pain in the cock 23164 | Volcano | zammy: yeah, nasty without rf 23164 | Volcano | zammy: you got dig wand? 23164 | Volcano | zammy: (not sure if you can dig ehre thou) 23164 | Volcano | Delarado: nope 23164 | Volcano | zammy: hmm 23164 | Volcano | Delarado: maybe that ring 23164 | Volcano | zammy: quite a long shot 23164 | Volcano | zammy: you can allways kill the snakes 23164 | Volcano | Delarado: how? 23164 | Volcano | Delarado: bow? Or wands? 23164 | Volcano | zammy: they are vulnerable to cold, so back up so you can only see one and use the frost wand 23165 | Volcano | zammy: or cold wand 23166 | Volcano | zammy: use that, it hits both 23226 | Volcano | Delarado: oh shit that means the walls are going to fall in doesnt it 23226 | Volcano | zammy: no it doesn 23226 | Volcano | zammy: just back up a bit 23229 | Volcano | zammy: volcano erupst. it blasts fire near the lava 23229 | Volcano | zammy: you are safe there 23229 | Volcano | Delarado: so i can go back in now? 23229 | Volcano | zammy: yeah 23248 | Volcano | zammy: carefull, stay near the wall 23253 | Volcano | Delarado: kill it or ignore? 23253 | Volcano | zammy: lava fishes are harmless 23253 | Volcano | zammy: mostly :) 23253 | Volcano | zammy: just ignore it 23254 | Volcano | zammy: the longer you want the bigget chances that you are caught in the eruption 23257 | Volcano | zammy: wait 23257 | Volcano | Delarado: should i quaff speed? 23257 | Volcano | zammy: don't think so 23257 | Volcano | zammy: just keep on walking 23257 | Volcano | Delarado: am i still waiting? Im scared :) 23258 | Volcano | zammy: of i was correcting my typo want = wait :D 23267 | Volcano | zammy: there is the other chamber 23272 | Volcano | zammy: enter, kill everything, loot 23272 | Volcano | Delarado: there are monsters here i presume 23272 | Volcano | Delarado: ill wait to regen hp 23352 | Volcano | zammy: never seen those. new mob 23352 | Volcano | zammy: i'd go berserk and hit them hard and fast 23352 | Volcano | Delarado: well they cant move 23352 | Volcano | Delarado: so shouldnt i just run past 23352 | Volcano | zammy: kill them 23352 | Volcano | zammy: if you need to retreat for some reason you'll die then 23352 | Volcano | Delarado: ok...they do 20 damage and have 70hp lol 23352 | Volcano | zammy: berserk, kill one and go heal 23358 | Volcano | zammy: or kill both 23409 | Volcano | zammy: berserking is a damn powerfull toll when used right 23554 | Volcano | Delarado: wand of cold? 23554 | Volcano | zammy: yeah 23574 | Volcano | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 23575 | Volcano | Delarado: is this it? 23575 | Volcano | Delarado: :) 23578 | Volcano | Reached XP level 13. HP: 94/107 MP: 1/4 23622 | Volcano | zammy: loot, sweet loot 23983 | Volcano | Delarado: can you tell me whats better, i have a nice chain mail 23983 | Volcano | Delarado: or an enchanted plate 23983 | Volcano | zammy: i'l use platemail 23983 | Volcano | zammy: gdr is important 23983 | Volcano | Delarado: GDR? 23983 | Volcano | zammy: guaranteed damage reduction 23983 | Volcano | Delarado: even though i get +3 str and +4 dex from the chain? 23983 | Volcano | zammy: each type of armour takes away fixed % of every melee hit you get 23983 | Volcano | zammy: platemail has 38% iirc 23983 | Volcano | Delarado: ah ok 24002 | Volcano | zammy: http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Armour 24002 | Volcano | zammy: that is usefull to read at some point 24031 | Lair:7 | Delarado: hahahah that ring was a protection from fire 24044 | Lair:7 | Delarado: now some death yaks 24148 | Lair:7 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 24437 | Lair:7 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits. 24535 | Lair:7 | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting 24567 | Lair:7 | Delarado: can i split stacks of arrows? 24697 | Lair:6 | Reached skill level 17 in Axes 24854 | Lair:7 | Received a gift from Trog 25125 | Lair:5 | zammy: yes you can 25138 | Lair:5 | zammy: select drop, type the numder you want to drop then select letter for the stack 25142 | Lair:5 | zammy: there 25142 | Lair:5 | Delarado: thanks 25152 | Lair:5 | zammy: those are rather poorly explained. took quite some time to learn that myself 25158 | Lair:5 | Killed a six-headed hydra 26508 | Lair:2 | zammy: well i'm off. good luck and try not to die 26508 | Lair:2 | Delarado: ok mate thanks for your help 26508 | Lair:2 | Delarado: im gonna stop soon anyway 26508 | Lair:2 | Delarado: need to do some work today :) 26508 | Lair:2 | Delarado: would you mind 26508 | Lair:2 | Delarado: just quickly...what should i drop? 26516 | Lair:2 | zammy: i don't carry many wands 26516 | Lair:2 | zammy: since i rarely use them anyway 26516 | Lair:2 | zammy: like random effects, it's useless 26516 | Lair:2 | Delarado: yeah i find i dont use them 26517 | Lair:2 | zammy: and stash all enchant armour scrolls 26517 | Lair:2 | zammy: to use on something good 26521 | Lair:2 | zammy: no point carrying them 26522 | Lair:2 | Delarado: yeah i acutally used some on this armor stupidly 26522 | Lair:2 | Delarado: what about cards and un id'd pots? 26522 | Lair:2 | Delarado: and jewellery? ( I have like ring of regen etc 26623 | Lair:2 | Upgraded the game from 0.13-a0-2496-g11650dd to 0.13-a0-2505-g5f0fbe2 26750 | Lair:8 | Entered Level 8 of the Lair of Beasts 26898 | Lair:8 | Got an ancient mace 26899 | Lair:8 | Identified the mace of the Jolly Wars {freeze, rElec rPois Str+2 Int+1} (You found it on level 8 of the Lair of Beasts) 27386 | Lair:8 | Received a gift from Trog 27593 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 18 in Axes 28526 | Lair:8 | Reached skill level 19 in Axes 28596 | Lair:8 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 108/118 MP: 1/4 29608 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines 29608 | Orc:1 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 29880 | Orc:2 | Received a gift from Trog 29881 | Orc:2 | Got a pitted broad axe {god gift} 29882 | Orc:2 | Identified the broad axe of Change {god gift, freeze, rC+ Int-1} (Trog gifted it to you on level 2 of the Orcish Mines) 29964 | Orc:3 | Found Gucumuaheje's General Store. 30070 | Orc:3 | Bought a scroll of identify for 34 gold pieces 30400 | Orc:3 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 30628 | Orc:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines 30696 | Orc:4 | Received a gift from Trog 31262 | Orc:4 | Found Caadwauf's General Store. 32339 | Orc:4 | Found Keph's Food Emporium. 32339 | Orc:4 | Found Trurruakh's Armour Emporium. 32364 | Orc:4 | Found Vyupal's Gadget Boutique. 32424 | Orc:4 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh. 32448 | Orc:4 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls. Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Hand axe | 93 | 193 | 144 | | || 430 War axe | | | 250 | 35 | || 285 Broad axe | | | 66 | 875 | 621 || 1562 Fire: Bow | | | 46 | 231 | 111 || 388 Throw: Dart | | 55 | 24 | | || 79 Hand axe | | | 1 | | || 1 Invok: Burn Spellbooks | | 1 | | 1 | 2 || 4 Berserk | | | 11 | 5 | 3 || 19 Brothers in Arms | | | | 3 | 10 || 13 Evoke: Wand | | | | 29 | 4 || 33 Use: Scroll | | | 13 | 20 | 6 || 39 Potion | | | 1 | | 2 || 3 Stab: Paralysed | | | | 2 | || 2 Distracted | | | | | 3 || 3

Tuesday, 23rd July 2013, 08:30 by Sandman25

I would explore dungeon. I don't enter Slime before clearing ZoT4. You don't have rPois for Snake and Evocation for Swamp (ring of flight helps there).
Read unknown scroll, you may want to use ID scroll on your ring (it will be hunger most likely). Don't keep recharge scrolls in inventory especially when you don't have conservation.

Tuesday, 23rd July 2013, 08:50 by delarado

I have loads of Rpois in my stash (two rings and a chain mail) I also have a ring of flight, although my evocations aren't great. Did you mean shoals when you said swamp?

I didn't want to use ID that unknown scroll as I thought it might be something useful, seeing as I've already Id'd all the detrimental ones, and I've only found two (Better is rarer no?) however whenever I find a scroll of ID i always seem to have jewellery / potions to ID! (Still have loads of un-id'd potions in stash)

I'll drop the recharge scroll.. I tend to carry one around (Dropped 5 i think in stash) just in case I need to paralyse something and run out of charges or whatever. A lot of the scrolls I carry I have multiples of in stash.

Thanks for the input. Is trog ever going to give me anything except anti magic weapons?

Thats a good point actually... trog gave me this. It seems hopelessly terrible, apart from the RC+ (Which I already have four rings for)

Code:: the -6,-3 broad axe of Change {freeze, rC+ Int-1}

Am I missing something?

Tuesday, 23rd July 2013, 08:57 by Sandman25

Shoals is more dangerous than Swamp IMHO, you need higher defense because there are many monsters with ranged attacks.
Always have rPois ring in inventory if it's the only source of rPois, you don't want to die to killer bees or Aizul.
Trog can grant artefact weapon also, for example in my current game I got +5,+12 sabre "Uneiceh" {venom, Noisy rN+ MR++ Dex+3}. Don't abandon him, he is great

Tuesday, 23rd July 2013, 09:20 by delarado

Good point about the bees - I left rpois for the Irish mines as I didn't think there was anything there to poison me. I'll carry it around again. I have so much jewellery I just don't know what to carry (I think 3x rc+ 2x ring of ice 2 x ring of fire 3x rf+ 1 rcorr and rf+ amulet, amulet of stasis, clarity, faith, ring of flight, 2x rn+ 1mr+ and various others)

So that gifted weapon... -6 -3, surely not worth even bothering with no?!?

Tuesday, 23rd July 2013, 09:22 by delarado

Also I don't get where swamp comes into this? I thought you got shoals or swamp not both... I have shoals don't I?

Tuesday, 23rd July 2013, 09:30 by ontoclasm

delarado wrote:So that gifted weapon... -6 -3, surely not worth even bothering with no?!?

Broad axes are bad and this is worse than a +0 broad axe you could find anywhere on the ground. God gifts are not guaranteed to be good, and indeed are often hilariously terrible.

Tuesday, 23rd July 2013, 09:34 by Sandman25

delarado wrote:Also I don't get where swamp comes into this? I thought you got shoals or swamp not both... I have shoals don't I?

Yes, you have Shoals and it's impossible to have both Shoals and Swamp. Sorry about confusion caused.
I meant I could do Swamp with some Evocations for flight, but I would not do Shoals because merfolks could kill me.

Tuesday, 23rd July 2013, 09:36 by Sandman25

delarado wrote:Good point about the bees - I left rpois for the Irish mines as I didn't think there was anything there to poison me. I'll carry it around again. I have so much jewellery I just don't know what to carry (I think 3x rc+ 2x ring of ice 2 x ring of fire 3x rf+ 1 rcorr and rf+ amulet, amulet of stasis, clarity, faith, ring of flight, 2x rn+ 1mr+ and various others)

So that gifted weapon... -6 -3, surely not worth even bothering with no?!?

You have only 2 hands so there is no sense to have 3 rF+ rings. Also there is no sense to use ring of fire if you have ring of rF+ and don't cast fire spells.

Tuesday, 23rd July 2013, 18:57 by prozacelf

delarado wrote:Good point about the bees - I left rpois for the Irish mines as I didn't think there was anything there to poison me.

Man, I hate having to go fight the Irish!

Autocorrect at work?

Tuesday, 23rd July 2013, 21:39 by delarado

Haha didnt spot that! Yes of course. Nothing worse than forgetting your rAlc and rPot when your getting pelted with Guinness and potato's!

Wednesday, 24th July 2013, 00:06 by delarado

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