Orange crystal statues

[hxy]

I found an Orange Crystal Statue at the end of a curved hallway of water, and backed off to consider my options.
Does it see invisible? e.g. if I quaff a potion of invisibility?
Is the stat loss it causes permanent? or can you rest off its effect?

[mageykun]

They do not see invs. So you if you quaffed out of LOS, you could sneak in and bash it to death. (Not sure what happens if you go invs while in LOS).

Stat loss is not permanent. Drained int will eventually come back, or can be recovered by drinking a potion of restore ability, or eating a royal jelly. If you get drained to zero, you can get stat death though, so be careful.

Hands down best solution is a wand of disintegration. Instant kills 'em.

[Tiber]

To my knowledge, nothing in the game can cause you to lose stats permanently, except through mutations. Hit points are another story though.

[tormodpwns]

If you don't have a wand of disintegration, then stay away. The OCS will drain your INT until you die and confuse you, so you may fall into the deep water.

[Kylearan]

Is there any reason why disintegration works on orange crystal statues, but not others? I always found that a bit frustrating.

[mrbobbyg]

This is one of those times where you remember that you don't need to kill everything you see in CRAWL.

If you have a wand of disintegration, and feel lucky, go for it. But without one you will be dead, dead, dead, invisibility potion or not.

[Dustbin]

Is there any reason why disintegration works on orange crystal statues, but not others? I always found that a bit frustrating.

I'm pretty sure it one shots the silver statue, dunno about ice statues because I still haven't been in an Ice Cave, and Roxanne is a unique so it makes some sense there.

[Sprinter]

wand of disintegration doesnt work on ice statues but any fire based attack will melt it fast (wand of fire, flame, fireballs) and not all ice caves have ice statues. Roxanne is hard for non casters just avoid it casters can kill her with magic dart a max range wearing some MR resist as she tries to blink u close to her.

[hxy]

I finally went back to it with a wand of digging and a wand of disintegration.
Digging so that I can get at it from the other end of the chamber so I won't be floating over water if I got confused etc.
At fist sight I got hit with Confuse plus something else that caused me to "forget" the level map. Luckily I came prepared with potion of healing.
Found some nice loot there

[danr]

I just killed one by meleeing it while wearing an amulet of clarity and a ring of sustain abilities. I did still lose quite a bit of Int, and it took for-ever! And all I got was 175 lousy XP.

[smock]

I just killed one by meleeing it while wearing an amulet of clarity and a ring of sustain abilities. I did still lose quite a bit of Int, and it took for-ever! And all I got was 175 lousy XP.

Wow, they really should be worth more XP!

[Stormfox]

LRD, a ring of wizardry, and Vehumet's wizardry bonus. Kablooey in 5 casts. (And this is with a SpVM who has no good reason to learn LRD otherwise.)

[danr]

I just wanted to test out my jewellery, and I didn't have such a wand. This one was on land and I'd cleared the rest of the level.

[KoboldLord]

It's one wand charge, guys. I think 150 XP (the current number) is actually too much, seeing how trivial it is to destroy them that way.

One randomly generated wand charge. Wands of disintegration aren't guaranteed; I've hit Zot without ever seeing one generated before. If one did generate, orange statues are trivial, and if one didn't generate then the orange statues are virtually indestructible. You can barely call it a monster; an orange statue vault is more like free loot in exchange for having normal luck earlier in the game.

The Monastery of Wucad Mu wizlab is the worst offender, because it generates only the once and you can't come back to it. Unreasonably good loot if you happen to have a disintegration charge on you, and completely unwinnable otherwise.

[7hm]

It's one wand charge, guys. I think 150 XP (the current number) is actually too much, seeing how trivial it is to destroy them that way.

One randomly generated wand charge. Wands of disintegration aren't guaranteed; I've hit Zot without ever seeing one generated before. If one did generate, orange statues are trivial, and if one didn't generate then the orange statues are virtually indestructible. You can barely call it a monster; an orange statue vault is more like free loot in exchange for having normal luck earlier in the game.

The Monastery of Wucad Mu wizlab is the worst offender, because it generates only the once and you can't come back to it. Unreasonably good loot if you happen to have a disintegration charge on you, and completely unwinnable otherwise.

I've done the Wucad Mu wizlab without a wand of disintegration.

I believe I used summons. I've also taken out statues with berserking - though you generally wand a good angle of attack for that.

It's not that bad, though it is a bit reliant on luck.

[hxy]

Question - do these statues always "notice" you when it is within LOS? does stealth matter?

[smock]

Drowning and summons-kill death yield half XP, right? Disintegrating a statue could also halve XP.

I suppose the idea is that trivial kills shouldn't yield much XP. The same should go for trivially disintegrating an otherwise fearsome opponent.

[Zicher]

Drowning, when caused by you, e.g. by a meph cloud, gives full XP.

[mumra]

Drowning and summons-kill death yield half XP, right? Disintegrating a statue could also halve XP.

I suppose the idea is that trivial kills shouldn't yield much XP. The same should go for trivially disintegrating an otherwise fearsome opponent.

I noticed a change fairly recently (in trunk I think) where the XP awarded for summons kills is proportional to how much damage is dealt by you vs. your summons. Don't know exactly how the calculation works, though.