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Silenced with Erica and Sonja in LOS

PostPosted: Sunday, 16th June 2013, 00:30
by reaver
I was read-IDing scrolls when I got a scroll of noise followed by a scroll of silence. I decided to kill the beetle blocking my way the the stairs to rest off the silence. Then, Erica and Sonja walked into the LOS. Erica came first, so I tried to attack the beetle to clear the way for a couple turns before Sonja appeared. Silence blocks off all my scrolls and my invocations. My character dump:
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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.13-a0-1614-gd69a504 (webtiles) character file.

reaver the Cleaver (Minotaur Abyssal Knight)       Turns: 13160, Time: 01:10:13

HP  55/70        AC 16     Str 17      XL: 9   Next: 55%
MP  13/13        EV  3     Int 11      God: Lugonu [***...]
Gold 14          SH  6     Dex 11      Spells:  0 memorised,  8 levels left

Res.Fire  : . . .   See Invis. : .   K - +2,+1 hand axe
Res.Cold  : . . .   Warding    : .   b - +0 plate armour
Life Prot.: . . .   Conserve   : +   i - +0 buckler
Res.Poison: .       Res.Corr.  : .   (helmet restricted)
Res.Elec. : .       Clarity    : .   M - +0 cloak
Sust.Abil.: . .     Spirit.Shd : .   N - +0 pair of gloves
Res.Mut.  : .       Stasis     : .   A - +2 pair of dwarf boots
Res.Rott. : .       Flight     : .   x - amulet of conservation
Saprovore : . . .                    I - ruby ring {tried}
                                     q - cursed ring of wizardry

@: silence, slightly resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: retaliatory headbutt, horns 2, Str +1, Dex -1
a: no special abilities


You are on level 10 of the Dungeon.
You worship Lugonu.
Lugonu is greatly pleased with you.
You are near starving.

You have visited 1 branch of the dungeon, and seen 10 of its levels.
You have visited the Abyss 1 time.

You have collected 359 gold pieces.
You have spent 365 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 a - a +2,+0 hand axe {=f}
 d - a +0,+1 orcish hand axe
 e - a spear
 B - a glowing sabre
 J - a -1,+1 orcish anti-magic war axe
 K - a +2,+1 hand axe (weapon)
 P - a dagger of chaos {Psyche}
Missiles
 y - 44 stones (quivered)
Armour
 b - a +0 plate armour (worn)
 h - a +2 leather armour
 i - a +0 buckler (worn)
 n - a robe
 A - a +2 pair of dwarven boots (worn)
 M - a +0 cloak (worn)
 N - a +0 pair of gloves (worn)
Magical devices
 c - a runed glass wand
 D - a lead wand
 L - a wand of polymorph {zapped: 1}
Comestibles
 g - an apple
 v - a lychee
 z - a bread ration
 S - a meat ration
Scrolls
 m - a scroll of identify
 o - 3 scrolls labeled DEYP DUMNAU {tried}
 p - a scroll labeled JEOPSEMPORCH
 s - 3 scrolls of teleportation
 t - 3 scrolls labeled PSARUETUPS {tried}
 E - 4 scrolls of blinking
 G - 2 scrolls of magic mapping
 Q - a scroll labeled ANKEOKLESHRU
Jewellery
 q - a cursed ring of wizardry (left hand)
 x - an amulet of conservation (around neck)
 H - an uncursed thick zirconium amulet {tried}
 I - a ruby ring (right hand) {tried}
 R - a glowing steel amulet {tried}
Potions
 f - 2 potions of might
 j - 3 cyan potions
 k - 3 potions of heal wounds
 l - 3 potions of curing
 r - a potion of speed
 u - 2 potions of agility
 w - 2 potions of brilliance
 F - a potion of invisibility


   Skills:
 - Level 3.6 Fighting
 - Level 13.5 Axes
 - Level 2.4 Armour
 - Level 1.1 Dodging
 + Level 6.1 Invocations


You have 8 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (10/27)            Temple (0/1) D:4         
   Orc: D:6-11        Lair: D:8-13     

Altars:
Trog

Shops:
D:7: *%*(  D:8: [  D:9: (=[=

Annotations
D:2 exclusion: downstairs
D:10 Erica, Sonja
Abyss:1 Duvessa


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You reflexively headbutt those who attack you in melee.
You have a pair of horns on your head.
Your muscles are strong, but stiff (Str +1, Dex -1).


Message History

You hit the goliath beetle but do no damage.
You headbutt the goliath beetle, but do no damage.
The goliath beetle is moderately wounded.
You cannot call out to Lugonu while silenced.
You hit the goliath beetle but do no damage.
The goliath beetle is moderately wounded.
You completely miss the goliath beetle.
The goliath beetle is moderately wounded.
The goliath beetle bites you!
You hit the goliath beetle but do no damage.
You headbutt the goliath beetle.
The goliath beetle is heavily wounded.
You hit the goliath beetle but do no damage.
The goliath beetle is heavily wounded.
Sonja comes into view. She is wielding a runed short sword.
You hit the goliath beetle.
The goliath beetle is heavily wounded.
Sonja mumbles some strange words.
Sonja blinks!
Save game and exit?

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You can see Erica, a goliath beetle and Sonja.

Vanquished Creatures
  A hill giant zombie (D:7)
  Psyche (D:8)
  A yak (D:9)
  Eustachio (D:8)
  A hippogriff (D:7)
  4 ogres
  An ice beast (D:6)
  2 centaurs
  A giant frog skeleton (D:5)
  A two-headed ogre skeleton (D:7)
  An ogre zombie (D:5)
  A quasit (D:8)
  5 orc priests
  Dowan (D:8)
  A crimson imp (D:7)
  6 orc wizards
  2 worker ants (D:6)
  3 hounds
  5 scorpions
  A jelly (D:3)
  2 iguanas
  Ijyb (D:3)
  Jessica (D:2)
  16 adders
  A giant mite (D:4)
  A lemure (D:8)
  An iguana skeleton (D:6)
  4 worms
  A bat skeleton (D:4)
  3 giant geckos
  An ooze (D:3)
  28 orcs
  14 bats
  11 giant cockroaches
  3 goblins
  14 hobgoblins
  4 quokkas
  3 ball pythons
  6 giant newts
  A goblin skeleton (D:4)
  A hobgoblin skeleton (D:8)
  9 jackals
  21 kobolds
  An orc skeleton (D:4)
  13 rats
  2 ballistomycetes (D:8)
203 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A lorocyproca (D:9)
  A thrashing horror (D:9)
  A large abomination (D:9)
  A spatial maelstrom (D:9)
  The ghost of Elizilla the Grappler, an experienced TrMo of Okawaru (D:6)
  A wizard (D:8)
  A hellwing (D:9)
  A smoke demon (D:9)
  A red devil (D:9)
  2 yaks (D:9)
  A hippogriff (D:9)
  A necrophage (D:9)
  An orc warrior (D:5)
  An ice beast (D:9)
  An ogre (D:9)
  A big kobold (D:9)
  5 jellies
  A worm (D:9)
  2 orcs (D:9)
  A hobgoblin (D:3)
  A giant gecko skeleton (D:9)
  A giant newt (D:2)
  A giant spore (D:8)
  A hobgoblin zombie (D:8)
  7 kobolds (D:9)
  An orc zombie (D:9)
  14 starspawn tentacles (D:9)
  23 starspawn tentacle segments (D:9)
75 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 278 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | Abyss:1  | reaver, the Minotaur Abyssal Knight, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | Abyss:1  | Reached XP level 1. HP: 17/17 MP: 1/1
    58 | D:1      | Escaped the Abyss
   302 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 24/24 MP: 1/1
   642 | D:1      | Reached skill level 4 in Axes
   743 | D:1      | Acquired Lugonu's second power
   821 | D:2      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
   867 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 22/30 MP: 2/2
  1240 | D:2      | Noticed Jessica
  1259 | D:2      | Killed Jessica
  1259 | D:2      | Reached skill level 5 in Axes
  1502 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 35/37 MP: 3/3
  2008 | D:2      | Reached skill level 6 in Axes
  2770 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 30/44 MP: 3/3
  3215 | D:3      | Reached skill level 7 in Axes
  3480 | D:3      | Acquired Lugonu's third power
  3736 | D:3      | Noticed Ijyb
  3764 | D:3      | Killed Ijyb
  3917 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 43/50 MP: 5/5
  4631 | D:4      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  4639 | D:4      | Upgraded the game from 0.13-a0-1606-g53bcbbc to 0.13-a0-1614-gd69a504
  5508 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  5642 | D:5      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 30/57 MP: 8/8
  6455 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Invocations
  7287 | D:6      | Reached skill level 8 in Axes
  7465 | D:5      | Gained mutation: Your muscles are strong, but stiff (Str +1, Dex -1). [potion of beneficial mutation]
  7674 | D:6      | Reached skill level 9 in Axes
  7760 | D:6      | Noticed Elizilla's ghost (experienced TrMo)
  7761 | D:6      | Banished Elizilla's ghost
  7761 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 63/63 MP: 10/10
  8267 | D:6      | Reached skill level 10 in Axes
  8581 | D:7      | Found Feeppatene's Weapon Shoppe.
  8791 | D:7      | Found Oreodgh's Food Shop.
  8989 | D:7      | Found Kekh's Assorted Antiques.
  9059 | D:7      | Bought a scroll of identify for 62 gold pieces
  9059 | D:7      | Bought a cloak for 31 gold pieces
  9189 | D:7      | Found Ymoutaokh's General Store.
  9192 | D:7      | Noticed a hill giant zombie
  9339 | D:7      | Bought a potion of curing for 30 gold pieces
  9339 | D:7      | Bought a scroll of blinking for 82 gold pieces
  9339 | D:7      | Bought a scroll of identify for 30 gold pieces
  9457 | D:7      | Killed a hill giant zombie
  9457 | D:7      | Reached skill level 11 in Axes
  9759 | D:8      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 70/70 MP: 12/12
  9781 | D:8      | Noticed Eustachio
  9796 | D:8      | Killed Eustachio
  9864 | D:8      | Found Piez's Antique Armour Shoppe.
  9874 | D:8      | Bought a pair of gloves for 34 gold pieces
 10008 | D:8      | Noticed Psyche
 10024 | D:8      | Paralysed by Psyche for 3 turns
 10024 | D:8      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 47/63 MP: 10/10
 10038 | D:8      | Killed Psyche
 10038 | D:8      | Reached skill level 12 in Axes
 10038 | D:8      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 63/70 MP: 12/12
 10341 | D:8      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
 10341 | D:8      | Noticed a wizard
 10347 | D:8      | Killed a wizard
 10455 | D:8      | Acquired Lugonu's fourth power
 10807 | D:8      | Noticed Duvessa
 10807 | D:8      | Noticed Dowan
 10829 | D:8      | Killed Dowan
 10843 | D:8      | Banished Duvessa
 11299 | D:9      | Found Jiceusar's Armour Emporium.
 11361 | D:9      | Found Xoucua's Jewellery Shop.
 11363 | D:9      | Reached skill level 13 in Axes
 11381 | D:9      | Corrupted D:9
 11381 | D:9      | Noticed a hellwing
 11381 | D:9      | Noticed a profane servitor
 11381 | D:9      | Noticed a green death
 11381 | D:9      | Noticed a large abomination
 11381 | D:9      | Noticed a tentacled starspawn
 11381 | D:9      | Noticed a tentacled starspawn
 11381 | D:9      | Noticed a sixfirhy
 11381 | D:9      | Noticed a thrashing horror
 11381 | D:9      | Noticed a demonic crawler
 11381 | D:9      | Noticed a hellwing
 11381 | D:9      | Noticed a large abomination
 11381 | D:9      | Noticed a thrashing horror
 11384 | D:9      | Noticed a tentacled starspawn
 11385 | D:9      | Noticed an orange demon
 11387 | D:9      | Noticed a rakshasa
 11387 | D:9      | Noticed a large abomination
 11388 | D:9      | Killed a thrashing horror
 11388 | D:9      | Killed a large abomination
 11404 | D:9      | Banished a spatial maelstrom
 11415 | D:9      | Killed a lorocyproca
 11485 | D:9      | Killed a hellwing
 11729 | D:9      | Found Mnac's Weapon Shoppe.
 12263 | D:9      | Found Ghaliw's Jewellery Shop.
 12862 | D:7      | Bought a bread ration for 48 gold pieces
 12862 | D:7      | Bought a meat ration for 48 gold pieces
 12945 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 13152 | D:10     | Noticed Erica
 13159 | D:10     | Noticed Sonja


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 || total
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Melee: Hand axe          |    86 |   342 |   468 ||   896
Throw: Stone             |       |    36 |     3 ||    39
Invok: Banish            |       |     1 |     9 ||    10
       Bend Space        |       |       |     1 ||     1
       Corrupt           |       |       |     1 ||     1
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |     1 ||     1
  Use: Scroll            |     1 |     4 |    15 ||    20
       Potion            |       |       |     1 ||     1
Assets:
    Antimagic Axe I can wield
    Near full HP
    Wand of Polymorph Other
    Two un-IDed wands
    Worshiping Lugonu- banishment by Sonja wouldn't be a big deal.
    Potions of speed, agility, heal wounds, might, curing and invisibility
    Stairs in the LOS, if I can get around the beetle
What I was thinking of doing is quaffing the speed potion, zapping the wand until I polymorph Erica, killing whatever she becomes, then running from Sonja.

Also, have I been training Invocations reasonably? I've been bouncing back and forth between Invocations and Axes, and I don't know if I'm training it too much or too little.

Re: Silenced with Erica and Sonja in LOS

PostPosted: Sunday, 16th June 2013, 01:01
by ElderVIII
Why don't you Poly Sonja, since she's the bigger threat? Plus she has ridiculously low MR IIRC.

EDIT: Once Sonja's Poly'd, get that anti-magic axe, whack Erica (heal if needs be), then decide whether to kill Sonja or not.

Re: Silenced with Erica and Sonja in LOS

PostPosted: Sunday, 16th June 2013, 01:13
by reaver
ElderVIII wrote:Why don't you Poly Sonja, since she's the bigger threat? Plus she has ridiculously low MR IIRC.

Did you look at the map?
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Sonja is the K. I obviously can't zap the wand at her from this angle. Her MR is 8, which less than a sheep, so I will zap the wand at her if she gets close enough.

Re: Silenced with Erica and Sonja in LOS

PostPosted: Sunday, 16th June 2013, 01:25
by ElderVIII
Don't know how I missed the map...

But, yeah, I'd say pop the speed, use that anti-magic axe to kill Erica (I wouldn't poly her, though. Waste of a turn), poly Sonja, then run or kill.

Re: Silenced with Erica and Sonja in LOS

PostPosted: Sunday, 16th June 2013, 01:36
by Wahaha
You should have less axes and more invocations. Not saying you should necessarily use the potion of invis but Erica doesn't see invis, just pointing it out.

Re: Silenced with Erica and Sonja in LOS

PostPosted: Sunday, 16th June 2013, 09:42
by Sandman25
Use potion of invisibility. Always read unknown scrolls at upstairs, it helps with magic mapping/teleport/noise/immolation/silence. Also always retreat after reading noise scroll if you see some shouts in message log.

Re: Silenced with Erica and Sonja in LOS

PostPosted: Sunday, 16th June 2013, 09:45
by gorbeh
banish the beetle,polymorph sonja,kill erica,????,win!

ps:oops,it seems banishing doesnt work with silence?sorry!

Re: Silenced with Erica and Sonja in LOS

PostPosted: Sunday, 16th June 2013, 10:22
by joellercoaster
Sandman25 wrote:Always read unknown scrolls at upstairs, it helps with magic mapping/teleport/noise/immolation/silence


I would say do that on the downstairs of an already-explored level. That way if it's noise or immolation, it doesn't wake up monsters you haven't seen yet.

Re: Silenced with Erica and Sonja in LOS

PostPosted: Sunday, 16th June 2013, 10:25
by Sandman25
joellercoaster wrote:
Sandman25 wrote:Always read unknown scrolls at upstairs, it helps with magic mapping/teleport/noise/immolation/silence


I would say do that on the downstairs of an already-explored level. That way if it's noise or immolation, it doesn't wake up monsters you haven't seen yet.


Yes, it is possible approach also. The only downside is waste of magic mapping.

Re: Silenced with Erica and Sonja in LOS

PostPosted: Monday, 17th June 2013, 18:13
by reaver
So I decided to drink Might instead of Speed, and I easily killed Erica. However, I then tried to circle around to the stairs and got killed by Sonja. I probably would have gotten out alive if I had thought about more, but I didn't realize how lethal Sonja could be.

Re: Silenced with Erica and Sonja in LOS

PostPosted: Monday, 17th June 2013, 23:31
by ElectricAlbatross
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reaver the Cleaver

Nice.