Auxiliary attacks

[Konedar]

Another of my game mechanics questions:

I can't find anywhere the formula for the chance of doing aux attacks. The bot explain the dmg but not the chance to perform them. I'd guess it's around 20 or 30%, maybe even more.
I think I've read somewhere that there is a relation with the stats, but I could be wrong. I think if I have 3 aux attacks the triggering of each is independent from the others.
I think they can happen everytime I attack in melee, so they are more useful with a quickblade than with an exec axe for example.
Anybody has more info about?

[daggaz]

I believe minotaur horn attacks have a chance to proc every time you dodge an attack.

[Konedar]

Retaliation is different, when u dodge an attack u have str+dex % chance to retaliate.

[ElderVIII]

Not sure, but I thought it was a 1 in 5 shot of each aux attack activating.

[tasonir]

Retaliation is different, when u dodge an attack u have str+dex % chance to retaliate.

it's based on your strength and dex, but not simply the sum of the two of them. Dex adds slightly more chance than str, but it's not really that important.

[IronJelly]

I seem to recall your unarmed combat skill affecting them. to some extent. maybe only certain ones.

[pratamawirya]

Retaliation is different, when u dodge an attack u have str+dex % chance to retaliate.

it's based on your strength and dex, but not simply the sum of the two of them. Dex adds slightly more chance than str, but it's not really that important.

Where did you get that from?

[jejorda2]

Is the formula for retaliation still 5*STR + 7*DEX > rand2(600)?

Unarmed combat skill does not increase damage or frequency for auxiliary attacks. It used to, but then the attacks were pretty much worthless if you didn't train, so they didn't make people pick different armour sets.

[Sandman25]

  Code:

bool melee_attack::_extra_aux_attack(unarmed_attack_type atk, bool is_uc)
{
    // No extra unarmed attacks for disabled mutations.
    if (_tran_forbid_aux_attack(atk))
        return false;

    if (atk == UNAT_CONSTRICT)
        return (is_uc
                 || you.species == SP_NAGA && you.experience_level > 12
                 || you.species == SP_OCTOPODE && you.has_usable_tentacle());

    if (you.strength() + you.dex() <= random2(50))
        return false;

    switch (atk)
    {
    case UNAT_KICK:
        return (is_uc
                 || player_mutation_level(MUT_HOOVES)
                 || you.has_usable_talons()
                 || player_mutation_level(MUT_TENTACLE_SPIKE));

    case UNAT_PECK:
        return ((is_uc
                 || player_mutation_level(MUT_BEAK))
                && !one_chance_in(3));

    case UNAT_HEADBUTT:
        return ((is_uc
                 || player_mutation_level(MUT_HORNS))
                && !one_chance_in(3));

    case UNAT_TAILSLAP:
        return ((is_uc
                 || you.has_usable_tail())
                && coinflip());

    case UNAT_PSEUDOPODS:
        return ((is_uc
                 || you.has_usable_pseudopods())
                && !one_chance_in(3));

    case UNAT_TENTACLES:
        return ((is_uc
                 || you.has_usable_tentacles())
                && !one_chance_in(3));

    case UNAT_BITE:
        return ((is_uc
                 || you.has_usable_fangs()
                 || player_mutation_level(MUT_ACIDIC_BITE))
                && x_chance_in_y(2, 5));

    case UNAT_PUNCH:
        return (is_uc && !one_chance_in(3));

    default:
        return false;
    }
}


[tasonir]

That mino formula looks like the one I saw before, yes.

Also apparently having a tentacle spike on an octopode is considered a 'kick' attack. I always figured it was an attempt at giving them claws, guess not

if (atk == UNAT_CONSTRICT)
return (is_uc
|| you.species == SP_NAGA && you.experience_level > 12
|| you.species == SP_OCTOPODE && you.has_usable_tentacle());

bolded change is worst change ever