felid stabbing?

[Zargon]

Hi

How does being a felid affect your stabbing ability? How much stabbing skill as a felid do you need to equal someone with a dagger and 15 stabbing, all other things being equal?

Couldn't see an answer to this in the knowledge bot / wiki / forums.

Cheers

[Zargon]

same as wielding a long blade

Thanks. Looks like I'm looking at at least 20 stabbing for it to be any use then. Just trying to increase my range of attack options for my FeFE, who I've somehow managed to keep alive (or at least let die fewer times than I had lives). Level 12 now:

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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.12.0 (tiles) character file.

Zargon the Covert (Felid Fire Elementalist)        Turns: 34010, Time: 03:02:00

HP  47/47        AC  3     Str  7      XL: 12   Next:  3%
MP  29/29        EV 26     Int 18      God: Ashenzari [*.....]
Gold 797         SH  0     Dex 17      Spells: 10 memorised,  3 levels left
                                       Lives: 1, deaths: 2

Res.Fire  : . . .   See Invis. : +   (weapon unavailable)
Res.Cold  : + . .   Warding    : .   (armour unavailable)
Life Prot.: . . .   Conserve   : .   (shield unavailable)
Res.Poison: +       Res.Corr.  : .   (helmet unavailable)
Res.Elec. : .       Clarity    : .   (cloak unavailable)
Sust.Abil.: . .     Spirit.Shd : .   (gloves unavailable)
Res.Mut.  : +       Stasis     : .   (boots unavailable)
Res.Rott. : .       Ctrl.Telep.: .   l - amulet of resist mutation
Saprovore : . . .   Flight     : .   g - ring of wizardry
                                     f - cursed ring of poison resistance

@: quick, quite resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely stealthy
A: paw claws, no armour, no advanced items, fangs 3, see invisible, carnivore 3,
speed 1, slow metabolism 1, AC +3
a: Renounce Religion


You are in an ice cave.
You worship Ashenzari.
Ashenzari is most pleased with you.
You are very full.

You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 14 of its levels.
You have also visited: Ice Cave.

You have collected 777 gold pieces.


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You cannot wear armour.
You are incapable of any advanced item manipulation.
Your paws have sharp claws.
You have razor-sharp teeth.
You have supernaturally acute eyesight.
You are carnivorous and can eat meat at any time.
You cover ground quickly.
Your thick and shaggy fur keeps you warm (AC +3, rC+).
You have a slow metabolism.


   Skills:
 - Level 3.6 Fighting
 + Level 10.5 Dodging
 + Level 12.3 Stealth
 + Level 10.1 Stabbing
 + Level 3.7 Traps
 + Level 7.5 Spellcasting
 * Level 8.6 Conjurations
 + Level 5.6 Charms
 - Level 3.6 Translocations
 * Level 8.7 Fire Magic
 - Level 5.6 Air Magic
 - Level 4.6 Poison Magic


You have 3 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Throw Flame           Conj/Fire      ######.      1%          2    None
b - Swiftness             Chrm/Air       #####.....   1%          2    None
c - Conjure Flame         Conj/Fire      ######...    1%          3    ##.....
d - Repel Missiles        Chrm/Air       #####.....   1%          2    None
e - Shock                 Conj/Air       #####        1%          1    None
f - Apportation           Tloc           ####......   1%          1    None
g - Passage of Golubria   Tloc           N/A          11%         4    ###....
m - Mephitic Cloud        Conj/Pois/Air  #####....    1%          3    ##.....
s - Sticky Flame          Conj/Fire      ######...    1%          4    ###....
x - Flame Tongue          Conj/Fire      ######       1%          1    None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (9/27)             Temple (1/1) D:7             Orc (0/4) D:8
   Lair (4/8) D:9          Spider (0/5) Lair:4     
 Swamp: Lair:3-6    Shoals: Lair:3-6     Snake: Lair:3-6   

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
the Shining One
Beogh

Annotations
D:3 1 exclusion, Crazy Yiuf
D:4 Edmund, Sigmund
D:5 exclusion: centaur
D:6 exclusion: centaur
IceCv exclusion: ice statue

Inventory:

Comestibles
 c - 3 meat rations
Scrolls
 b - a scroll of torment {!r}
 d - 2 scrolls of identify
 h - 3 scrolls of recharging
Jewellery
 a - an uncursed amulet of the gourmand
 f - a cursed ring of poison resistance (left paw)
 g - a ring of wizardry (right paw)
 l - an amulet of resist mutation (around neck)
 m - a +3 ring of strength
 n - an uncursed ring of sustain abilities
Potions
 e - a potion of heal wounds
 i - a potion of restore abilities


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#..##.#...##..@##...#
###..#..########  ....#
..#####..#         ..8.
#...#..###          ...
###..###             h
  ####


There are no monsters in sight!

Message History

The wolf is heavily wounded.
Casting: Flame Tongue
Aiming: Flame Tongue
Aim: a wolf (heavily wounded)
The flame misses the wolf. The flame hits the wolf.
The wolf is moderately wounded.
Casting: Flame Tongue
Aiming: Flame Tongue
Aim: a wolf (heavily wounded)
The flame hits the wolf.
The wolf is severely wounded.
Casting: Flame Tongue
Aiming: Flame Tongue
Aim: a wolf (severely wounded)
The flame hits the wolf.
The wolf is almost dead.
Casting: Flame Tongue
Aiming: Flame Tongue
Aim: a wolf (almost dead)
The flame hits the wolf.
You kill the wolf!
Casting: Flame Tongue
Aiming: Flame Tongue
Aim: a wolf (moderately wounded)
The flame hits the wolf.
The wolf is heavily wounded.
Casting: Flame Tongue
Aiming: Flame Tongue
Aim: a wolf (heavily wounded)
The flame hits the wolf.
You kill the wolf!
Casting: Flame Tongue
There are no visible monsters within range! (Use Z to cast anyway.)
Unknown command.
You start resting.
Magic restored.
You see here a yak corpse.
Things that are here:
a wolf corpse
Found 29 stones and 18 gold pieces.
Found an uncursed robe.
You now have 726 gold pieces (gained 18).
Found an uncursed staff of poison.
You see here an uncursed robe.
You see here an uncursed staff of poison {!a}.
You see here 29 stones.
You see here an uncursed staff of poison {!a}.
j - an uncursed staff of poison {!a}
Wield which item (- for none, * to show all)? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You can't use weapons.
You drop an uncursed staff of poison {!a}.
Wield which item (- for none, * to show all)? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You can't use weapons.
You drop a +1 rod of the swarm (14/14) {!a}.
You see here 29 stones.
Found 71 gold pieces.
You now have 752 gold pieces (gained 26).
You now have 765 gold pieces (gained 13).
You now have 781 gold pieces (gained 16).
You now have 797 gold pieces (gained 16).
Marking area around the ice statue as unsafe for travelling.
A wolf and an ice statue come into view.
Level annotation: exclusion: ice statue
Welcome back, Zargon the Felid Fire Elementalist.
Ashenzari says: Partake of my vision. Partake of my curse.
Char dumped to 'morgue/Zargon.txt'.
Level annotation: exclusion: ice statue
Welcome back, Zargon the Felid Fire Elementalist.
Ashenzari says: Partake of my vision. Partake of my curse.
Char dumped to 'morgue/Zargon.txt'.


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Unarmed           |     5 |    50 |    60 |    82 ||   197
 Cast: Flame Tongue      |    72 |   119 |   242 |   379 ||   812
       Throw Flame       |     7 |    83 |   237 |   393 ||   720
       Conjure Flame     |       |     5 |    47 |    51 ||   103
       Sticky Flame      |       |       |    21 |   139 ||   160
       Mephitic Cloud    |       |       |     7 |    12 ||    19
       Shock             |       |       |     6 |       ||     6
       Swiftness         |       |       |       |     5 ||     5
  Use: Scroll            |     3 |     5 |    12 |    13 ||    33
       Potion            |       |     6 |     2 |     6 ||    14
 Stab: Sleeping          |     1 |     1 |     1 |     7 ||    10
       Distracted        |       |       |     1 |     1 ||     2
       Confused          |       |       |       |     3 ||     3


Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Zargon, the Felid Fire Elementalist, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 7/7 MP: 4/4
    41 | D:1      | Reached skill level 1 in Conjurations
   398 | D:1      | Reached skill level 3 in Fire Magic
   398 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 11/11 MP: 3/5
  1184 | D:2      | Noticed Jessica
  1562 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 14/14 MP: 8/8
  1597 | D:1      | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Flame
  2201 | D:2      | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
  2469 | D:2      | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
  2885 | D:2      | Killed Jessica
  2885 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 18/18 MP: 2/10
  3041 | D:2      | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame
  3255 | D:3      | Noticed Crazy Yiuf
  3709 | D:3      | Reached skill level 4 in Stealth
  3826 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 21/21 MP: 4/12
  4201 | D:3      | Noticed an ogre
  4231 | D:3      | Killed an ogre
  4415 | D:3      | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
  4584 | D:3      | Gained mutation: You are covered in thick fur (AC +2). [growing up]
  4584 | D:3      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 24/24 MP: 12/15
  5210 | D:3      | Reached skill level 1 in Traps
  5716 | D:4      | Noticed Sigmund
  5737 | D:4      | Noticed Ijyb
  5815 | D:4      | Killed Ijyb
  6533 | D:4      | Noticed Edmund
  6884 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 27/27 MP: 1/18
  7780 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  8024 | D:5      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns
  8751 | D:5      | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud
  8883 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth
  8883 | D:6      | Reached skill level 1 in Stabbing
  8990 | D:6      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
  9611 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Fire Magic
  9791 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 31/31 MP: 8/19
 10224 | D:6      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
 11710 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 12327 | D:6      | Learned a level 4 spell: Sticky Flame
 12412 | D:7      | Reached skill level 6 in Stealth
 12581 | D:7      | Noticed Eustachio
 12599 | D:7      | Killed Eustachio
 12677 | D:7      | Killed a pile of gold mimic
 12677 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations
 12900 | D:7      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 34/34 MP: 14/22
 13767 | D:7      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
 13921 | D:7      | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 13986 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
 14102 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of Ashenzari the Shackled
 14640 | D:6      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns
 15787 | D:8      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns
 16021 | D:8      | Reached skill level 7 in Stealth
 16497 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 16624 | D:8      | Reached skill level 1 in Poison Magic
 16728 | D:8      | Learned a level 2 spell: Repel Missiles
 16730 | D:8      | Learned a level 1 spell: Shock
 17079 | D:8      | Reached skill level 1 in Air Magic
 17498 | D:8      | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
 17870 | D:9      | Noticed Pikel
 17933 | D:9      | Killed Pikel
 17933 | D:9      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 37/37 MP: 9/24
 18726 | D:9      | Noticed a cyclops
 18739 | D:9      | Killed a cyclops
 18739 | D:9      | Reached skill level 8 in Stealth
 18929 | D:9      | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
 19184 | D:9      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 19426 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 19741 | Lair:1   | Mangled by a yak
 19742 | Lair:1   | Reached XP level 9. HP: -6/34 MP: 0/23
 19994 | Lair:1   | Learned a level 2 spell: Swiftness
 20004 | Lair:1   | Noticed a spiny frog
 20022 | Lair:1   | Killed a spiny frog
 20274 | Lair:1   | Reached XP level 10. HP: 37/37 MP: 5/25
 20559 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 5 in Stabbing
 20797 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
 20797 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 9 in Stealth
 21013 | Lair:1   | Learned a level 1 spell: Apportation
 21738 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 5 in Air Magic
 22913 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 2 in Fighting
 23646 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 6 in Spellcasting
 23646 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 4 in Poison Magic
 23646 | Lair:2   | Reached XP level 11. HP: 42/42 MP: 15/27
 23671 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 6 in Stabbing
 24168 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 3 in Fighting
 24168 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 1 in Translocations
 24403 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 1 in Charms
 25020 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 9 in Dodging
 25196 | Lair:2   | Identified an uncursed rod of the swarm {!a} (You found it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts)
 25245 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 2 in Translocations
 25265 | Lair:3   | Noticed Erica
 25317 | Lair:3   | HP: 2/43 [Erica/orb of energy (25)]
 25327 | Lair:3   | Killed Erica
 25327 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 2 in Charms
 25617 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 8 in Fire Magic
 25702 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 3 in Translocations
 25901 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth
 26300 | Lair:3   | Noticed Fannar
 26913 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 7 in Stabbing
 27401 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 3 in Charms
 27720 | Lair:3   | HP: 1/43 [Fannar/Ozocubu's Refrigeration (23)]
 28431 | Lair:3   | Killed Fannar
 28431 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 8 in Stabbing
 28852 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 8 in Conjurations
 29248 | Lair:3   | Gained mutation: Your thick and shaggy fur keeps you warm (AC +3, rC+). [growing up]
 29248 | Lair:3   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 47/47 MP: 5/29
 29414 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 11 in Stealth
 29414 | Lair:3   | Slain by a spiny frog
 29415 | Lair:3   | Reached XP level 11. HP: -3/43 MP: 12/27
 29564 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 4 in Charms
 29917 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 7 in Spellcasting
 30037 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 9 in Stabbing
 30243 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 30730 | Lair:3   | Learned a level 4 spell: Passage of Golubria
 31568 | Lair:4   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 31938 | Lair:4   | Found a frozen archway.
 31946 | IceCv    | Entered an ice cave
 32219 | IceCv    | Reached skill level 5 in Charms
 32341 | IceCv    | Reached skill level 12 in Stealth
 32341 | IceCv    | Reached skill level 3 in Traps
 33312 | IceCv    | Reached skill level 10 in Stabbing
 33726 | IceCv    | Reached XP level 12. HP: 45/47 MP: 24/29
 34008 | IceCv    | Noticed an ice statue

Vanquished Creatures
  Fannar (Lair:3)
  Erica (Lair:3)
  Pikel (D:9)
  A cyclops (D:9)
  2 black mambas
  3 elephants (Lair:4)
  8 spiny frogs
  An item mimic (D:7)
  A troll (D:9)
  3 komodo dragons
  10 polar bears (IceCv)
  15 blink frogs
  3 grizzly bears
  29 yaks
  Eustachio (D:7)
  4 war dogs
  4 hippogriffs
  A manticore zombie (D:8)
  A cyclops zombie (D:9)
  5 ice beasts
  A slave (D:9)
  A manticore skeleton (D:9)
  2 phantoms
  A necrophage (D:6)
  A sky beast (D:8)
  4 centaurs
  A troll skeleton (D:9)
  3 orc warriors
  6 ogres
  6 crocodiles
  3 giant slugs
  20 wolves
  A gnoll sergeant (D:6)
  A giant frog skeleton (D:8)
  7 water moccasins
  10 giant frogs
  A two-headed ogre zombie (D:8)
  3 agate snails
  4 killer bees (D:8)
  A crimson imp (D:8)
  2 goliath beetles
  A hound zombie (D:5)
  8 spiders (Lair:4)
  10 hounds
  A hound skeleton (D:4)
  8 iguanas
  5 orc wizards
  5 orc priests
  5 scorpions
  4 worker ants
  A worker ant zombie (D:6)
  8 porcupines
  Ijyb (D:4)
  Jessica (D:2)
  2 jellies
  15 gnolls
  22 adders
  28 green rats
  A giant centipede (Lair:3)
  5 worms
  3 giant mites
  3 giant eyeballs
  6 giant geckos
  2 oozes
  23 orcs
  20 bats
  6 giant cockroaches
  23 hobgoblins
  28 jackals
  A ball python (D:1)
  4 giant newts
  7 goblins
  2 hobgoblin zombies
  10 kobolds
  13 quokkas
  24 rats
  A fungus (D:3)
481 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A slave (D:9)
  An ogre (D:9)
  A jelly (D:9)
  An adder (D:9)
  A giant centipede (Lair:2)
  A green rat (D:9)
  An orc (D:9)
  A hobgoblin (D:9)
  A quokka (D:5)
  2 bats (D:9)
  5 jackals
  A rat (D:2)
  4 fungi
  2 plants
23 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 504 creatures vanquished