What do YOU do when you get banished?


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Lair Larrikin

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Post Sunday, 16th December 2012, 03:42

What do YOU do when you get banished?

Just had a very promising character get banished, and while he can take everything except hell sentinels and the like (antimagic axe takes care of the pesky liches and demons), already got the rune, but the character in question is currently Very Hungry and sitting on an altar to Lugonu wondering what to do. Okawaru probably won't be happy about me leaving, but at the same time, starving to death would be pretty lame, and it's risky to wander around at half hp anyway.

But that's beside the point. What do you guys do when your wonderful little digital people get banished at low/mid level (other than the obvious answer: die)? I seem to have terrible luck with exits and the random teleports dumping me back near where I started.
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Crypt Cleanser

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Post Sunday, 16th December 2012, 04:07

Re: What do YOU do when you get banished?

If you got the rune, the exit should be too long to find. Although if you don't have any permafood and you really don't take any risk, Lugonu is your bet.
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Post Sunday, 16th December 2012, 05:19

Re: What do YOU do when you get banished?

Well... I run :)

If you can take Oka's wrath, there are a lot worse gods you could follow than Lucy. Corruption is pretty sweet for nabbing runes, and self-banishment is nothing to sneeze at either.
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Lair Larrikin

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Post Sunday, 16th December 2012, 07:49

Re: What do YOU do when you get banished?

Yep, took it. Had Oka dropping titans on me all the way down the vaults and snake. I was abysed for 10000 turns and never found the exit after already having found the rune. My luck must be bad, and I was out of permafood with a hell sentinel chasing me for a good half of it. Dry on consumables and haste wasn't online. Barely scraped by. Almost starved to death trying to run back to my stash. Corruption helped me get my snake rune, even when Oka tried to ruin it. Good fun.

But I really can't do anything but die in the abyss if I can't fight off at least large abominations. :<

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Post Sunday, 16th December 2012, 09:37

Re: What do YOU do when you get banished?

What do I do when I get banished?

I usually turn off the game for a while because I just got a nearly guaranteed 30 mins+ boring and annoying chase scene where I am running almost purposelessly thru a randomly changing landscape, fleeing from most overything simply out of principal, and knowing full well that if i dont die of boredom, i will die of tormentation (which is like getting smited to death by an orc priest on D2) before I ever find the damned portal out. All this instead of what was usually an exciting part of the normal game with a good character who was making fun progression in the strategic puzzle of life, death, and consumables..

Abyss really is hell. I hate it.

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Post Sunday, 16th December 2012, 09:46

First thing I usually do when I get banished is typing : for edit and writing "oh no" to the notes. This won't help you much but it describes how I feel.

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Post Sunday, 16th December 2012, 09:51

Re: What do YOU do when you get banished?

If you're starving to death in the Abyss, you must really be unlucky or have a big food burner. There was a time when I farmed Abyss (instead of pan/zig) and while it was a headache (still is when looking for that rune), hunger never was an issue as the Abyss would give me all the perma food I needed.

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Post Sunday, 16th December 2012, 12:09

Re: What do YOU do when you get banished?

My first reaction when I get banished is usually "Aw, well this should be a fun little distraction". :)

My reaction is different if I have Shield of the Gong cursed to my hands (as an Ashenzari player). My reaction then is, "oh my god why would I do that"

never go Gong in Abyss guysssss :cry:
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Post Sunday, 16th December 2012, 12:42

Re: What do YOU do when you get banished?

SchwaWarrior wrote:never go Gong in Abyss guysssss :cry:

Challenge accepted.

Edit: It was all fun and games until I realized that I don't gain any experience in Sprint-Abyss and a bunch of hell hogs burned most of my scrolls.
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Post Sunday, 16th December 2012, 14:06

Re: What do YOU do when you get banished?

When I first started playing, I seriously contemplated giving up the character because I never had a banishment go well.
As I've gotten more experience though, unless it's a real early banishment (like from an Ogre Mage in Orc), I just soldier on and try and find the exit as soon as I can. Try and not fight as much as I can unless I know I can end it in one or two hits. Also keep fly on so you can use the terrain the best to your advantage.

And yes, look out for tormenters. :)
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Post Sunday, 16th December 2012, 16:33

Re: What do YOU do when you get banished?

Bloax wrote:Challenge accepted.

Edit: It was all fun and games until I realized that I don't gain any experience in Sprint-Abyss and a bunch of hell hogs burned most of my scrolls.

Hmm, what about Wiz Mode in normal Crawl? Make up a... say, XL 20 character of your favorite type, any deity you want except Lugonu, and give him a balanced set of equipment that you'd expect to have at that point (or roll some dice to decide how good his sword/armour/stash of potions and scrolls/etc. will be), plus Shield of the Gong and 15.0 Shield skill (as I had at the time). Then, Abyss yourself. The challenge is to simply get the Abyssal Rune and leave the Abyss in one piece, without ever removing Gong.

If you're curious, I would have failed that challenge; I didn't die, but I left the Abyss before getting the Rune (though it was close! I found the rune vault, a lava-filled Stone Golem fortress, but then got whisked away), and then later came back to get it with Shield of the Bullseye instead. Ah well.

I think I did get the Rune with Gong a different time though, but I forget.
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Post Monday, 17th December 2012, 00:35

Re: What do YOU do when you get banished?

Normally I'd try and get out asap, but my current mummy summoner might go rune hunting

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Manny the Demonologist (Mummy Summoner)        Turns: 178178, Time: 1, 00:14:39

HP 154/160 (161) AC 10     Str 14      XL: 25   Next: 25%
MP  19/45        EV 16     Int 20 (22) God: Sif Muna [******]
Gold 6432        SH  0     Dex 17      Spells: 16 memorised,  9 levels left

Res.Fire  : + + +   See Invis. : +   W - +3,+1 staff of Gloom {freeze, rC++}
Res.Cold  : + + +   Warding    : .   a - +0 leather armour of a wizard's laboratory
Life Prot.: + + +   Conserve   : +   (no shield)
Res.Poison: +       Res.Corr.  : +   M - +1 wizard hat
Res.Elec. : +       Clarity    : .   L - +1 elf cloak {rCorr, Cons}
Sust.Abil.: . .     Spirit.Shd : .   w - +2 pair of gauntlets {Str+3}
Res.Mut.  : +       Stasis     : .   Y - +0 pair of boots
Res.Rott. : +       Ctrl.Telep.: x   R - amulet "Ecixuic" {rMut rElec}
Saprovore : . . .   Levitation : .   E - ring of wizardry
                    Ctrl.Flight: .   m - ring "Meqoalom" {rElec rF++ Dex+5 Acc+5}

@: extremely resistant to hostile enchantments, stealthy
A: no food or potions, fire vulnerability, in touch with death, restore body,
cold resistance 1, life protection 3, poison resistance, torment resistance,
unbreathing
a: Self-Restoration, Channel Energy, Forget Spell, Renounce Religion
}: 3/15 runes: decaying, silver, gossamer


You are in the Abyss.
You worship Sif Muna.
Sif Muna is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 11 branches of the dungeon, and seen 71 of its levels.
You have visited the Abyss 1 time.
You have also visited: Labyrinth, Bailey and Ice Cave.

You have collected 8737 gold pieces.
You have spent 2325 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 Q - a +0,+2 demon trident of venom
 W - the +3,+1 staff of Gloom (weapon) {freeze, rC++}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Crypt)   
   
   It has been specially enchanted to freeze those struck by it, causing extra
   injury to most foes and up to double damage against particularly susceptible
   opponents. It can also slow down cold-blooded creatures.
   
   It greatly protects you from cold.
Armour
 a - the +0 leather armour of a wizard's laboratory (worn) {rElec rF++ SInv Curse}
   (You found it on level 8 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It greatly protects you from fire.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It enhances your eyesight.
   It may recurse itself.
 w - a +2 pair of gauntlets of strength (worn)
 L - a +1 elven cloak of preservation (worn)
 M - a +1 wizard hat (worn)
 Y - a +0 pair of boots (worn)
Magical devices
 b - a wand of digging (13)
 f - a wand of invisibility (0)
 h - a wand of teleportation
 k - a wand of flame {zapped: 6}
 o - a wand of magic darts {zapped: 1}
 p - a wand of cold
 r - a wand of frost {zapped: 1}
 s - a wand of lightning (2)
 v - a wand of disintegration (6)
 x - a wand of lightning {zapped: 6}
 y - a wand of flame {zapped: 4}
 z - a wand of lightning {zapped: 3}
 B - a wand of frost
 C - a wand of digging (1)
 D - a wand of teleportation
 G - a wand of draining
 H - a wand of lightning
 I - a wand of teleportation
 K - a wand of cold {zapped: 4}
 O - a wand of enslavement
 T - a wand of teleportation (2)
 U - a wand of flame {zapped: 6}
 Z - a wand of magic darts {zapped: 1}
Scrolls
 e - 4 scrolls of fear
 g - 5 scrolls of blinking
 i - 11 scrolls of remove curse
 j - 7 scrolls of identify
 l - 13 scrolls of teleportation
 n - 3 scrolls of silence
 q - a scroll of magic mapping
 t - a scroll of enchant weapon II
 u - 2 scrolls of recharging
 P - 2 scrolls of fog
 V - a scroll of torment
Jewellery
 d - an uncursed ring of wizardry
 m - the ring "Meqoalom" (left hand) {rElec rF++ Dex+5 Acc+5}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 8 of the Vaults)   
   
   [ring of dexterity]
   It affects your dexterity (+5).
   
   It affects your accuracy (+5).
   It greatly protects you from fire.
   It insulates you from electricity.
 E - a ring of wizardry (right hand)
 N - an uncursed amulet of guardian spirit
 R - the amulet "Ecixuic" (around neck) {rMut rElec}
   (You found it on level 1 of the Vaults)   
   
   [amulet of resist mutation]
   
   It insulates you from electricity.
 S - an uncursed ring of teleport control
Books
 c - a book of Spatial Translocations {god gift}   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   *Apportation                       Translocation                1
   Portal Projectile                  Translocation                2
   *Blink                             Translocation                2
   Shroud of Golubria                 Charms/Translocation         2
   Teleport Other                     Translocation                3
   Passage of Golubria                Translocation                4
   Control Teleport                   Charms/Translocation         4
 F - a book of Death {god gift}   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Corpse Rot                         Necromancy                   2
   Sublimation of Blood               Necromancy                   2
   Agony                              Necromancy                   5
   *Dispel Undead                     Necromancy                   5
   Excruciating Wounds                Charms/Necromancy            5
   Bolt of Draining                   Conjuration/Necromancy       6
 J - Sif Muna's Volume of Conjuration {god gift}
   (Sif Muna gifted it to you in the Abyss)   
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Bolt of Draining                   Conjuration/Necromancy       6
   Poison Arrow                       Conjuration/Poison           6
   Chain Lightning                    Conjuration/Air              8
Rods
 A - a +2 rod of venom (12/12)
   (You found it in a labyrinth)
 X - a +6 rod of destruction [ice] (9/9)
   (You found it in a labyrinth)


   Skills:
 + Level 5.3 Fighting
   Level 0.4 Short Blades
 - Level 1.2 Armour
 + Level 7.3 Dodging
 + Level 2.7 Stealth
 + Level 0.3 Stabbing
 + Level 5.9 Traps & Doors
 + Level 19.3 Spellcasting
   Level 0.2 Conjurations
 + Level 10.2 Charms
 + Level 24.6 Summonings
 + Level 6.2 Necromancy
 - Level 1.2 Translocations
 - Level 3.9 Ice Magic
 + Level 0.5 Air Magic
 - Level 12.9 Invocations
 + Level 0.5 Evocations


You have 9 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Summon Butterflies    Summ           ########.    0%          1    N/A
b - Animate Dead          Necr           N/A          1%          4    N/A
c - Shadow Creatures      Summ           N/A          0%          5    N/A
d - Summon Ugly Thing     Summ           ########..   1%          6    N/A
e - Recall                Summ/Tloc      N/A          1%          3    N/A
f - Abjuration            Summ           ########..   0%          3    N/A
g - Swiftness             Chrm/Air       ######....   1%          2    N/A
h - Flight                Chrm/Air       ######....   1%          3    N/A
i - Apportation           Tloc           ####......   1%          1    N/A
j - Repel Missiles        Chrm/Air       ######....   1%          2    N/A
k - Mass Abjuration       Summ           ########..   1%          6    N/A
l - Ozocubu's Armour      Chrm/Ice       ######....   1%          3    N/A
m - Corona                Hex            ####....     1%          1    N/A
n - Blink                 Tloc           N/A          1%          2    N/A
o - Dispel Undead         Necr           #######..    3%          5    N/A
p - Haste                 Chrm           #######..    3%          6    N/A


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (27/27)            Temple (1/1) D:5             Orc (4/4) D:10
    Elf (3/3) Orc:4          Lair (8/8) D:9           Swamp (5/5) Lair:6
 Spider (5/5) Lair:6        Slime (0/6) Lair:7       Vaults (8/8) D:19
  Blade (1/1) Vaults:5      Crypt (5/5) Vaults:4       Tomb (0/3) Crypt:3
    Zot (4/5) D:27       

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
the Shining One
Beogh
Lugonu

Shops:
D:4: (  D:7: (  D:8: [  D:13: /  D:14: /  D:15: [  D:21: !  Orc:4: (([*  Vaults:4: %  Vaults:8: ==  Abyss: ((((

Portals:
Dungeon: Abyss*
Hell: D:21 D:22 D:23 D:24* D:25 D:26 D:27
Abyss: D:23 D:24 D:25 D:26
Pandemonium: D:21 D:23 D:24 D:27
Trove: Vaults:5 (give wand of heal wounds (9))

Annotations
D:4 1 exclusion
D:9 exclusion: downstairs
D:10 exclusion: orange crystal statue
D:12 exclusion: oklob sapling
D:18 exclusion: 2 downstairs
Elf:2 exclusion: door
Vaults:5 exclusions: downstairs, ugly thing and 4 more exclusions
Vaults:7 exclusions: 2 downstairs and ugly thing
Vaults:8 Vaults 8!
Blade BORIS, Invisilich!, Boris
Crypt:4 1 exclusion
Zot:3 exclusion: door


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You do not eat or drink.
Your flesh is vulnerable to fire.
You are in touch with the powers of death.
You can restore your body by infusing magical energy.
Your flesh is cold resistant.
You are immune to negative energy.
Your system is resistant to poisons.
You are immune to unholy pain and torment.
You can survive without breathing.


Message History

The ufetubus closely misses your green very ugly thing.
The ufetubus barely misses your green very ugly thing.
Use which ability? (? or * to list)
You channel some magical energy.
Your green very ugly thing stings the ufetubus!
The ufetubus dies!
Your green very ugly thing headbutts the ufetubus!
The ufetubus is poisoned.
Your green very ugly thing poisons the ufetubus!
The ufetubus hits your green very ugly thing but does no damage.
The ufetubus closely misses your green very ugly thing.
Use which ability? (? or * to list)
You channel some magical energy.
Your white ugly thing basks in the mutagenic energy from its kin and changes!
Your green very ugly thing stings the ufetubus but does no damage.
The ufetubus dies!
Use which ability? (? or * to list)
You channel some magical energy.
You are a level 25 Mummy Summoner. You are 25% of the way to level 26.
Play time: 1day 00:13:46 (178178 turns)

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You can see friendly 19 very ugly things and friendly 7 ugly things.


this is probably the first mummy I got past D:5 and want to go for more than a 3 rune run, and abyssal rune is going to be one of them.
I've been in the abyss for ~4000 turns is it worth staying in case i find an exit.
I don't mean to hijack a thread, just looking for some quick advice.

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Post Monday, 17th December 2012, 01:31

Re: What do YOU do when you get banished?

Well, if you've been there for 4000 turns, you likely already know how well you can handle things there, so you should know whether you feel comfortable or not staying until you find the rune - it's not like you'll starve.

Just keep on the lookout for regular, non-random structures as finding one usually means finding the rune.

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Post Monday, 17th December 2012, 04:02

Re: What do YOU do when you get banished?

Do same thing that I do when I die, encounter an unique, meet an OOD monster, or am about to go down into the stairs into the final level of any branch, take a swig of tea and mutter under my breath at how bleak the situation is.
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Post Monday, 17th December 2012, 09:02

Re: What do YOU do when you get banished?

When I'm abyssed, I run, but not after a little checklist. What are my options to run faster ? Do I have a teleportation wand ? An amulet or resist mutation ? A weapon of protection ? Then I wear/put/wield my most protective gear, launch swiftness and the like, and I run as fast as I can. Somtimes I lose a few turns to grab something, but only if I'm not already hunted by a horde of demons. And even there, it may be the worst idea, but I nevertheless do if my wand of teleportation have several charges left.
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Post Monday, 17th December 2012, 10:07

Re: What do YOU do when you get banished?

For ME there are three alternatives:
1) Find the exit
2) Get the rune and then find the exit
3) Die

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Post Monday, 17th December 2012, 12:17

Re: What do YOU do when you get banished?

I've been in the abyss for ~4000 turns is it worth staying in case i find an exit.
That's an endgame character ready for the Abyss and beyond if you had a couple higher tier spells. You look like you're waiting on summon dragon and haunt. So long as you're careful about the rare angel/daeva (for TSO's death-retaliation) and executioner, you ought to be alright with your current spell set.
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Post Monday, 14th January 2013, 12:20

Re: What do YOU do when you get banished?

In abyss I usually swear on neqoxecs, when burn all my blink and teleport sources trying to escape from hell sentinel and then die.
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Post Monday, 14th January 2013, 14:22

Re: What do YOU do when you get banished?

Rage at the monster/unique wielding distortion/Erolcha/Louise/random deep elf sorcerer/random draconian shifter.
MuCK;
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612 | D:1      | Xom revived you
614 | D:1      | Xom revived you
614 | D:1      | Slain by a gnoll

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Post Monday, 14th January 2013, 18:21

Re: What do YOU do when you get banished?

Look around and say "Well, here's a fun challenge!" I don't really mind the abyss. The only time I remember getting annoyed was when I ran a massively powerful MfGl of Trog through Elf with no MR. I got banished six!? times. I found the rune the first time after about 100 turns, so it was really getting a bit dull by the fifth time. But Mf are the next best things to Spriggans for surviving the old Abyss.

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Post Friday, 18th January 2013, 00:46

Re: What do YOU do when you get banished?

Curl up into a little ball, cry some, pretend I'm not actually in the abyss...

You know. The usual.
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