Kiku + Summon Horrible things


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Post Tuesday, 26th March 2013, 11:38

Kiku + Summon Horrible things

Hello.
Recently I found out that Kiku accepts kills made by abominations created by Summon Horrible things spell. Is it working as intended or a bug? Since technikally abominations summoned by summon horrible things are demons...
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Barkeep

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Post Tuesday, 26th March 2013, 12:43

Re: Kiku + Summon Horrible things

http://crawl.develz.org/info/index.php? ... bomination

They're undead and evil, but not demons.
I am not a very good player. My mouth is a foul pit of LIES. KNOW THIS.

Vestibule Violator

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Post Tuesday, 26th March 2013, 13:43

Re: Kiku + Summon Horrible things

Actually thematically they are both undead and demonic, but demonic + undead is the same as undead for gameplay.

git wrote:commit dbbbbcd452cb8616a6c121cd070557ef003b7def
Author: Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl>
Date: Thu Dec 15 07:40:14 2011 +0100

Stop racial segregation of abominations.

There's no gain in having demonic vs undead ones, and plenty of confusion.
They're now both theme-wise (undead material, demonic control+alterations),
and undead code-wise since MH_UNDEAD|MH_DEMONIC is strictly the same as
MH_UNDEAD currently.


Also their descriptions say so.

Tomb Titivator

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Post Tuesday, 26th March 2013, 19:16

Re: Kiku + Summon Horrible things

minmay wrote:It's not quite the same - Trog gives piety for killing abominations, and he doesn't give piety for killing plain undead (unless they have spells).

Does Trog give piety on mummy priests nowdays? Because on 0.10 they didn't yield the "trog appreciates killing of the magic user" message eventhough they clearly fit the profile.

Ziggurat Zagger

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Post Tuesday, 26th March 2013, 19:26

Re: Kiku + Summon Horrible things

No, it's not marked as a spellcaster. (A lot of "priest" types aren't.)

Cocytus Succeeder

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Post Wednesday, 27th March 2013, 07:54

Re: Kiku + Summon Horrible things

Priests aren't exactly casting spells - they are asking gods to cast spells for them.
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Abyss Ambulator

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Post Wednesday, 27th March 2013, 09:03

Re: Kiku + Summon Horrible things

If you wear-ID an amulet of faith, you can screw yourself though!
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Abyss Ambulator

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Post Thursday, 28th March 2013, 01:49

Re: Kiku + Summon Horrible things

I clearly did not post that where I thought I did. Sorry.

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Post Thursday, 28th March 2013, 10:52

Re: Kiku + Summon Horrible things

BlackSheep wrote:No, it's not marked as a spellcaster. (A lot of "priest" types aren't.)

Yeah, I've probably heard this before but I always get confused when clearing Tomb with a character of Trog (greater mummies vs mummy priest spellsets being identical and all).

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