Walkthrough/Guide for Crawl


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Post Thursday, 20th September 2012, 00:28

Walkthrough/Guide for Crawl

I wanted to test out cleaving in trunk so I decided to play though a game and also create a little guide on how to win:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix7srBKuXd0&feature=youtu.be

It's mainly just a quick win with explanations on how to go about the branches and why I do certain things. For some reason it actually turned out to be faster than my SpEn speed run so this might also be a guide on speed running? :?

Anyway I hope this can help a few people ascend. Also here's the morgue if anyone wants it:

  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.12-a0-557-gab169d3 (webtiles) character file.

1617532 Sky the Axe Maniac (level 26, 173/240 HPs)
             Began as a Hill Orc Berserker on Sept 19, 2012.
             Was a High Priest of Trog.
             Escaped with the Orb
             ... and 3 runes!
             
             The game lasted 01:53:50 (66331 turns).

Sky the Axe Maniac (Hill Orc Berserker)            Turns: 66331, Time: 01:53:50

HP 173/240       AC 37     Str 34      XL: 26   Next: 68%
MP   7/7         EV 18     Int  3 (7)  God: Trog [*****.]
Gold 928         SH  0     Dex  7      Spells:  0 memorised, 25 levels left

Res.Fire  : + . .   See Invis. : +   f - +8,+7 executioner's axe (antimagic) {god g
Res.Cold  : . . .   Warding    : +   p - +0 storm dragon armour
Life Prot.: + . .   Conserve   : +   (no shield)
Res.Poison: +       Res.Corr.  : +   w - +0 mask of the Dragon {MR Acc+3 Dam+3 SInv
Res.Elec. : +       Clarity    : .   v - +0 cloak {rCorr, Cons}
Sust.Abil.: . .     Spirit.Shd : .   t - +2 pair of gauntlets {Str+3}
Res.Mut.  : .       Stasis     : .   g - +2 pair of boots {Lev}
Res.Rott. : .       Ctrl.Telep.: x   j - brooch of Shielding {Ward AC+4 EV+4}
Saprovore : + . .   Levitation : .   m - ring "Meuveck" {rF+ EV+3 Acc+3}
                    Ctrl.Flight: .   r - ring of poison resistance

@: very slightly contaminated, extremely resistant to hostile enchantments,
extremely unstealthy
A: berserk 1, blink 1, blurry vision 2, herbivore 1, -10% hp, magic resistance
1, saprovore 1, screaming 1, slow healing 1, AC +1, Str -1, Dex -3
a: Blink, Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce
Religion, Evoke Levitation
}: 3/15 runes: serpentine, barnacled, silver


You escaped.
You worshipped Trog.
Trog was exalted by your worship.
You were not hungry.

You visited 7 branches of the dungeon, and saw 55 of its levels.

You collected 3652 gold pieces.
You spent 2744 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 f - a +8,+7 anti-magic executioner's axe (weapon) {god gift}
Armour
 g - a +2 pair of boots of levitation (worn)
 p - a +0 storm dragon armour (worn)
 t - a +2 pair of gauntlets of strength (worn)
 v - a +0 cloak of preservation (worn)
 w - the +0 mask of the Dragon (worn) {MR Acc+3 Dam+3 SInv}
   (You found it on level 5 of the Vaults)   
   
   It affects your accuracy (+3).
   It affects your damage-dealing abilities (+3).
   It increases your resistance to enchantments.
   It enhances your eyesight.
Magical devices
 a - a wand of heal wounds (0)
 i - a wand of teleportation (4)
 l - a wand of digging (6)
 H - a wand of disintegration (11)
 T - a wand of hasting (1)
Comestibles
 u - 2 royal jellies
 J - 3 apples
 K - a pear
 L - 24 strawberries
 M - 2 chokos
 O - an orange
Scrolls
 c - a scroll of teleportation
 o - 4 scrolls of remove curse
Jewellery
 h - an uncursed ring of ice
 j - the brooch of Shielding (around neck) {Ward AC+4 EV+4}
   (You took it off a yaktaur captain on level 5 of the Vaults)   
   
   [amulet of warding]
   
   It affects your AC (+4).
   It affects your evasion (+4).
 m - the ring "Meuveck" (right hand) {rF+ EV+3 Acc+3}
   (You found it on level 5 of the Vaults)   
   
   [ring of evasion]
   It affects your evasion (+3).
   
   It affects your accuracy (+3).
   It protects you from fire.
 n - an uncursed amulet of clarity
 q - an uncursed amulet of resist corrosion
 r - a ring of poison resistance (left hand)
 B - an uncursed amulet of guardian spirit
 E - an uncursed amulet of rage
Potions
 b - 16 potions of curing
 d - a potion of resistance
 e - 3 potions of heal wounds
 s - 6 potions of restore abilities
 C - 3 potions of magic
 D - a potion of invisibility
 G - a potion of berserk rage
 I - a potion of might
Orbs of Power
 k - the Orb of Zot


   Skills:
 O Level 27 Fighting
 O Level 27 Axes
 O Level 27 Armour
 + Level 16.9 Dodging


You had 25 spell levels left.
You didn't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (27/27)            Temple (1/1) D:4             Orc (0/4) D:7
   Lair (7/8) D:9          Shoals (5/5) Lair:6        Snake (5/5) Lair:4
 Vaults (5/5) D:15          Blade (0/1) Vaults:4      Crypt (0/5) Vaults:4
    Zot (5/5) D:27       
 Slime: Lair:6-8   

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
the Shining One

Shops:
D:7: /  D:15: *  Snake:2: [???  Snake:3: +  Vaults:5: ??!+

Portals:
Hell: D:21 D:22 D:23 D:26 D:27
Abyss: D:27
Pandemonium: D:24
Trove: Vaults:1 (give wand of heal wounds (9))

Annotations
D:18 exclusion: Roxanne, Roxanne
D:19 exclusion: statue
D:22 Mennas
D:24 exclusion: oklob plant
Shoals:5 exclusion: 2 oklob plants
Snake:2 exclusions: 2 oklob plants and 2 oklob saplings


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You can tolerate rotten meat.
You are partially covered in yellow scales (AC +1).
You tend to lose your temper in combat.
You can translocate small distances at will.
Your vision is quite blurry.
You are clumsy (Dex -3).
You digest meat inefficiently.
You are frail (-10% HP).
You are resistant to hostile enchantments.
You occasionally shout uncontrollably.
You heal slowly.
You are weak (Str -1).


Message History

There is a stone staircase leading down here.
Siaguluc comes into view. A small abomination comes into view.
A neqoxec comes into view.
The neqoxec shouts!
The neqoxec gestures at you.
Strange energies course through your body.
You feel clumsy.
You are a level 26 Hill Orc Berserker. You are 74% of the way to level 27.
Play time: 01:53:45 (66320 turns)
A sixfirhy comes into view.
Siaguluc hits you.
Siaguluc hits you! You partially resist. You feel drained.
Siaguluc hits you but does no damage.
A red devil comes into view.
Siaguluc hits you but does no damage.
Siaguluc misses you. The sixfirhy misses you. The sixfirhy closely misses you.
There is a staircase leading out of the dungeon here.
Are you sure you want to win?
Siaguluc hits you!
You have escaped!

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You could see Siaguluc, a sixfirhy, a neqoxec and a small abomination.

Vanquished Creatures
  7 ancient liches (Zot:5)
  6 orbs of fire (Zot:5)
  Saint Roka (D:27)
  A curse toe (Zot:4)
  3 Killer Klowns (Zot:5)
  Mara (D:18)
  Margery (Vaults:2)
  2 large abominations
  4 golden dragons
  A player illusion (D:18)
  4 bone dragons
  Nikola (D:15)
  A Brimstone Fiend (D:18)
  22 Orb Guardians
  A Hell Sentinel (D:18)
  9 tentacled monstrosities
  2 titans (Vaults:5)
  10 shadow dragons
  5 storm dragons
  Kirke (D:15)
  Frances (Vaults:1)
  3 draconian monks
  Ilsuiw (Shoals:5)
  5 frost giants
  A balrug (Zot:5)
  5 draconian scorchers
  Wiglaf (Vaults:3)
  An Executioner (Zot:5)
  Maud (Snake:1)
  3 draconian zealots
  2 fire giants
  38 stone giants
  2 draconian shifters
  2 ghost moths (Zot:4)
  A draconian caller (Zot:5)
  2 grey draconians
  A green draconian (Zot:5)
  5 purple draconians
  6 black draconians
  8 greater nagas
  3 white draconians
  3 pale draconians
  5 ettins
  4 yellow draconians
  2 mottled draconians
  4 red draconians
  A storm dragon zombie (Vaults:1)
  4 great orbs of eyes
  24 vault guards (Vaults:4)
  13 dragons
  8 death cobs
  A siren (Shoals:5)
  4 merfolk aquamancers (Shoals:5)
  Fannar (Snake:1)
  The ghost of Kay the Spear-Bearer, a powerful MiBe of Trog (D:11)
  5 merfolk javelineers
  Erica (D:15)
  Harold (Lair:5)
  33 yaktaur captains
  3 storm dragon skeletons
  2 hydras
  2 dancing weapons (Vaults:4)
  5 ice dragons
  10 anacondas
  Nessos (D:15)
  2 draconians (shapeshifter)
  A rakshasa (D:19)
  13 ogre magi
  A golden dragon skeleton (Zot:4)
  2 wolf spider zombies (Vaults:1)
  3 stone giant zombies
  7 very ugly things
  5 merfolk impalers
  A sphinx skeleton (Vaults:3)
  A frost giant zombie (Vaults:1)
  6 deep trolls (D:26)
  A catoblepas (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5)
  5 stone giant skeletons
  A fire giant skeleton (Vaults:2)
  2 sun demons
  A frost giant skeleton (Vaults:2)
  19 centaur warriors
  A giant orange brain (D:19)
  An iron troll (D:27)
  3 hell knights (Vaults:2)
  3 sea snakes
  2 ice devils
  13 naga warriors
  2 shadow demons
  An unseen horror (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2)
  3 flayed ghosts
  A wizard (D:18)
  27 orc knights
  A lindwurm (D:24)
  A lindwurm (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5)
  Pikel (D:5)
  A harpy (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
  An unseen horror (D:18)
  3 giant amoebae
  A hill giant (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5)
  2 giant amoebae (shapeshifter)
  An elf (shapeshifter) (D:22)
  A wolf spider (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5)
  5 wolf spiders
  11 hill giants
  2 guardian serpents
  9 harpies
  4 necromancers (Vaults:2)
  4 phantasmal warriors
  A cyclops (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5)
  4 orc sorcerers
  A flaming corpse (Zot:4)
  A shadow dragon simulacrum (Zot:4)
  A statue (Vaults:3)
  A griffon (D:23)
  An iron troll skeleton (Vaults:2)
  A red wasp (Vaults:2)
  20 moths of wrath
  2 spiny worms (shapeshifter)
  2 spiny worms
  An ettin zombie (Vaults:4)
  Maurice (D:10)
  13 cyclopes
  A shining eye (shapeshifter) (D:24)
  A fire crab (Vaults:4)
  2 sixfirhies
  A fire crab (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2)
  An elephant slug (Lair:6)
  2 yaktaurs (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5)
  A queen ant (shapeshifter) (D:27)
  A griffon skeleton (Vaults:4)
  3 feature mimics
  41 slime creatures
  A queen ant (D:13)
  3 ettin skeletons
  A spiny worm zombie (D:14)
  2 rock trolls (shapeshifter)
  A slime creature (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5)
  5 spiny frogs
  25 black mambas
  A hill giant zombie (D:12)
  16 naga magi
  41 yaktaurs
  Psyche (D:10)
  11 rock trolls
  2 hellwings
  116 ugly things
  3 mermaids
  2 hill giant skeletons
  A redback simulacrum (D:19)
  A komodo dragon (shapeshifter) (D:19)
  5 komodo dragons
  4 rock troll zombies
  A smoke demon (D:20)
  A deep troll zombie (Vaults:3)
  A queen bee (D:8)
  5 snapping turtles
  8 trolls
  18 two-headed ogres
  A brown ooze (shapeshifter) (Vaults:3)
  6 blink frogs
  A raven (shapeshifter) (D:14)
  2 blue devils
  3 rock troll skeletons
  3 basilisks
  2 orc zombies (Vaults:5)
  2 jumping spiders (Vaults:5)
  3 tarantellas (Vaults:5)
  25 yaks
  A wyvern (D:11)
  2 sharks
  3 vampires
  2 hogs (D:15)
  2 merfolk (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5)
  Eustachio (D:6)
  41 merfolk
  4 trapdoor spiders
  A ynoxinul (Vaults:5)
  11 redbacks
  5 vampire mosquitoes
  A hill giant simulacrum (D:15)
  2 fire drakes
  2 rock worms
  7 hippogriffs
  3 neqoxecs
  A deep elf summoner (Vaults:3)
  6 hungry ghosts
  3 wraiths
  3 war dogs (Lair:2)
  A yaktaur zombie (Vaults:2)
  A giant slug zombie (D:15)
  Edmund (D:7)
  5 necrophages
  Menkaure (D:7)
  A cyclops zombie (D:18)
  17 hell hounds
  A boulder beetle (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5)
  10 boulder beetles
  14 soldier ants
  2 yaktaur skeletons
  2 freezing wraiths
  A small abomination (D:20)
  A cyclops skeleton (D:15)
  A deep elf priest (Vaults:5)
  5 manticores
  47 orc warriors
  A kobold demonologist (D:18)
  48 ogres
  6 ice beasts
  A centaur (shapeshifter) (Vaults:5)
  11 giant goldfish
  3 sky beasts
  A yak zombie (D:15)
  3 phantoms
  A hell beast (D:20)
  3 red devils
  19 centaurs
  50 nagas
  A boring beetle (Vaults:4)
  A brain worm (D:14)
  7 crocodiles
  Duvessa (D:7)
  36 water moccasins
  A boring beetle zombie (Vaults:3)
  6 wargs
  3 rotting devils
  7 giant frogs
  9 giant slugs
  7 big kobolds
  Blork the orc (D:7)
  An agate snail (Lair:3)
  2 eyes of draining
  2 basilisk skeletons
  31 killer bees
  6 jellyfish
  A bumblebee simulacrum (D:19)
  A killer bee zombie (D:5)
  A vampire bat (Lair:5)
  7 wights
  A big kobold zombie (D:7)
  10 crimson imps
  A brain worm zombie (Vaults:4)
  9 electric eels
  3 goliath beetles
  Dowan (D:7)
  A shadow (Zot:4)
  20 orc priests
  8 spiders (Lair:3)
  7 big fish
  8 hounds
  A hound zombie (D:11)
  16 worker ants
  A hound skeleton (D:10)
  19 orc wizards
  2 worker ant zombies
  8 jellies
  5 porcupines
  6 iguanas
  3 orange rats
  A scorpion (D:6)
  16 sheep
  A deep elf soldier (D:10)
  A goliath beetle zombie (D:8)
  A mummy (D:13)
  5 boggarts (Vaults:1)
  4 gnolls (D:11)
  30 green rats
  A lemure (D:20)
  3 giant centipedes
  37 adders
  2 iguana skeletons
  A scorpion zombie (D:8)
  2 giant mites
  7 worms
  5 giant eyeballs
  8 giant geckos
  An ooze (D:2)
  110 orcs
  2 ball pythons
  35 bats
  7 giant cockroaches
  20 goblins
  2 grey rats (Vaults:1)
  13 hobgoblins
  34 jackals
  21 kobolds
  14 quokkas
  8 ant larvae (D:13)
  4 giant newts
  A kobold skeleton (Vaults:2)
  29 rats
  A rat skeleton (D:4)
  2 crawling corpses
  8 plants
  91 toadstools
2066 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  An electric golem (Zot:5)
  Agnes (D:14)
  A frost giant (D:27)
  A fire giant (D:27)
  A stone giant (D:27)
  Azrael (Vaults:1)
  3 yaktaur captains
  A hydra (Lair:2)
  A merfolk impaler (Shoals:5)
  A very ugly thing (Vaults:5)
  A naga warrior (Snake:5)
  A sea snake (Shoals:5)
  4 hill giants
  A shining eye (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2)
  A slime creature (D:15)
  2 yaktaurs
  An ice dragon skeleton (D:20)
  A rock troll (Vaults:2)
  A naga mage (Snake:5)
  2 ugly things
  A mermaid (Shoals:5)
  Prince Ribbit (D:8)
  A snapping turtle (Shoals:5)
  4 blink frogs (Lair:3)
  A rock troll zombie (Vaults:2)
  3 yaks (D:14)
  2 fire elementals (Vaults:1)
  A mottled dragon (D:21)
  A manticore (D:8)
  A rock worm (D:20)
  9 soldier ants (D:13)
  4 hell hounds (Vaults:1)
  A big kobold (D:14)
  A soldier ant zombie (D:14)
  A killer bee (D:8)
  A crimson imp (D:14)
  A scorpion (D:14)
  A sheep (Vaults:2)
  6 worker ants (D:13)
  An orc (Vaults:2)
  3 ant larvae (D:13)
  5 kobolds (D:14)
77 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A yaktaur captain (Vaults:5)
  2 hill giants (D:27)
  A centaur warrior (Vaults:4)
  An iron troll (Snake:5)
  A rock troll (D:27)
  4 trolls
  A hell hound (Zot:5)
  A small abomination (D:21)
  An ogre (D:13)
  3 humans (D:15)
  An adder (Snake:2)
  An orc (D:18)
  A giant cockroach (D:2)
  3 jackals
  4 kobolds
  2 fungi (Lair:5)
  2 plants
  9 tentacles (Shoals:4)
  186 tentacle segments (Shoals:4)
  97 toadstools
322 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 2465 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Sky, the Hill Orc Berserker, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 19/19 MP: 0/0
   161 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 17/27 MP: 1/1
   441 | D:1      | Acquired Trog's second power
   441 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 17/33 MP: 2/2
   833 | D:2      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
   834 | D:2      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
   834 | D:2      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
   935 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 37/40 MP: 3/3
  1187 | D:2      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
  1596 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  1596 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Axes
  1728 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 45/47 MP: 4/4
  2367 | D:4      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  2381 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  2517 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 55/55 MP: 5/5
  2518 | D:4      | Acquired Trog's third power
  2524 | D:4      | Reached skill level 6 in Axes
  3256 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 52/61 MP: 6/6
  3318 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3684 | D:5      | Reached skill level 7 in Axes
  3769 | D:5      | Noticed Pikel
  3783 | D:5      | Killed Pikel
  3783 | D:5      | Reached skill level 8 in Axes
  3783 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
  3783 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 70/70 MP: 7/7
  4048 | D:6      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 4 turns
  4401 | D:6      | Noticed Eustachio
  4409 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 78/78 MP: 8/8
  4436 | D:6      | Reached skill level 9 in Axes
  4473 | D:6      | Killed Eustachio
  4721 | D:7      | Noticed Edmund
  4733 | D:7      | Killed Edmund
  4793 | D:7      | Noticed Duvessa
  4793 | D:7      | Noticed Dowan
  4846 | D:7      | Found Wacosim's Magical Wand Shop.
  4873 | D:7      | Killed Dowan
  4947 | D:7      | Bought a wand of teleportation (3) for 231 gold pieces
  5165 | D:7      | Received a gift from Trog
  5208 | D:7      | Killed Duvessa
  5372 | D:7      | Noticed Menkaure
  5379 | D:7      | Killed Menkaure
  5398 | D:7      | Reached skill level 10 in Axes
  5769 | D:7      | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
  5775 | D:7      | Noticed Blork the orc
  5780 | D:7      | Killed Blork the orc
  6011 | D:7      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 33/88 MP: 0/9
  6075 | D:7      | HP: 4/88 [poisoned by a killer bee]
  6839 | D:8      | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
  7439 | D:8      | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
  7461 | D:8      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
  7471 | D:8      | Reached skill level 11 in Axes
  7851 | D:8      | Noticed Prince Ribbit
  7911 | D:8      | Killed Prince Ribbit
  8488 | D:9      | Noticed a hill giant
  8496 | D:9      | Killed a hill giant
  8496 | D:9      | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
  8659 | D:9      | Reached skill level 12 in Axes
  8885 | D:9      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
  9037 | D:9      | Reached XP level 11. HP: 76/96 MP: 2/10
  9403 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
  9527 | Lair:1   | Received a gift from Trog
 10086 | Lair:2   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 10093 | Lair:2   | Killed a nine-headed hydra
 10093 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 13 in Axes
 11068 | Lair:3   | Received a gift from Trog
 11303 | Lair:3   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 11584 | Lair:3   | the hole to the Spider Nest was a mimic.
 12130 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 14 in Axes
 12348 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
 12547 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
 12553 | Lair:4   | the staircase to the Shoals was a mimic.
 12934 | Lair:4   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 108/108 MP: 3/11
 13222 | Lair:5   | Got a crude helmet
 13235 | Lair:5   | Identified the -3 helmet of Muqolex (You found it on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts)
 13264 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 15 in Axes
 13470 | Lair:5   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 13479 | Lair:5   | Killed a ten-headed hydra
 13720 | Lair:5   | Received a gift from Trog
 13759 | Lair:5   | Noticed Harold
 13767 | Lair:5   | Killed Harold
 14309 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
 14369 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 16 in Axes
 14403 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
 15629 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 15798 | D:10     | Noticed Maurice
 15802 | D:10     | Killed Maurice
 15919 | D:10     | Noticed Psyche
 15928 | D:10     | Killed Psyche
 16202 | D:10     | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 3 turns
 16301 | D:11     | Noticed Kay's ghost (powerful MiBe)
 16317 | D:11     | Killed Kay's ghost
 16450 | D:11     | Reached skill level 17 in Axes
 16509 | D:11     | Received a gift from Trog
 16578 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 17243 | D:11     | the staircase to the Orcish Mines was a mimic.
 17285 | D:12     | Reached XP level 13. HP: 96/121 MP: 4/12
 17453 | D:12     | Got a pitted wooden ring
 17842 | D:12     | Found a flagged portal.
 17855 | D:12     | Reached skill level 18 in Axes
 18014 | D:12     | Received a gift from Trog
 18657 | D:13     | Reached skill level 19 in Axes
 19022 | D:14     | Entered Level 14 of the Dungeon
 19023 | D:14     | Noticed Agnes
 19052 | D:14     | Killed Agnes
 19775 | D:14     | Identified the ring "Cuahubir" (You found it on level 12 of the Dungeon)
 20292 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 20346 | D:15     | Noticed Kirke
 20358 | D:15     | Killed Kirke
 20358 | D:15     | Reached skill level 20 in Axes
 20358 | D:15     | Reached XP level 14. HP: 135/135 MP: 4/13
 20464 | D:15     | Received a gift from Trog
 20484 | D:15     | Noticed Nessos
 20497 | D:15     | Killed Nessos
 20757 | D:15     | Found a staircase to the Vaults.
 21080 | D:15     | Found Brelaim's General Store.
 21102 | D:15     | Bought a bread ration for 64 gold pieces
 21102 | D:15     | Bought a potion of speed for 88 gold pieces
 21148 | D:15     | Noticed a great orb of eyes
 21157 | D:15     | Killed a great orb of eyes
 21333 | D:15     | Noticed Erica
 21345 | D:15     | Killed Erica
 21933 | D:15     | Bought a +0 pair of gloves for 27 gold pieces
 22061 | D:15     | Noticed Nikola
 22076 | D:15     | Killed Nikola
 22603 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults
 22615 | Vaults:1 | Reached skill level 21 in Axes
 22892 | Vaults:1 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 145/145 MP: 4/14
 23091 | Vaults:1 | Received a gift from Trog
 23240 | Vaults:1 | Noticed Frances
 23248 | Vaults:1 | Killed Frances
 23390 | Vaults:1 | Noticed Azrael
 23398 | Vaults:1 | Killed Azrael
 23614 | Vaults:1 | Noticed a fire giant
 23622 | Vaults:1 | Killed a fire giant
 24245 | Vaults:1 | Reached skill level 15 in Armour
 24345 | Vaults:1 | Reached skill level 22 in Axes
 25635 | Vaults:1 | Found a portal to a secret trove of treasure.
 25666 | Vaults:1 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 140/157 MP: 5/15
 25678 | Vaults:1 | Received a gift from Trog
 26275 | Vaults:2 | Noticed Margery
 26291 | Vaults:2 | Killed Margery
 26786 | Vaults:2 | Reached skill level 23 in Axes
 27572 | Vaults:2 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 167/167 MP: 5/16
 29322 | Vaults:2 | Received a gift from Trog
 30683 | Vaults:3 | Noticed Wiglaf
 31022 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 24 in Axes
 31168 | Vaults:3 | Received a gift from Trog
 31204 | Vaults:3 | Noticed a tentacled monstrosity
 31210 | Vaults:3 | Killed a tentacled monstrosity
 31210 | Vaults:3 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 179/179 MP: 5/17
 31320 | Vaults:3 | Killed Wiglaf
 32081 | Vaults:4 | Paralysed by a great orb of eyes for 6 turns
 32408 | Vaults:4 | Found a staircase to the Crypt.
 32480 | Vaults:4 | Received a gift from Trog
 32566 | Vaults:4 | Found a staircase to the Hall of Blades.
 33719 | Snake:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Snake Pit
 33787 | Snake:1  | Noticed Fannar
 33800 | Snake:1  | Killed Fannar
 33842 | Snake:1  | Received a gift from Trog
 33961 | Snake:1  | Noticed Maud
 33968 | Snake:1  | Killed Maud
 34178 | Snake:2  | Found Bigaaraq's Magic Scroll Shoppe.
 34181 | Snake:2  | Bought a scroll of teleportation for 60 gold pieces
 34181 | Snake:2  | Bought a scroll of blinking for 110 gold pieces
 34181 | Snake:2  | Bought a scroll of teleportation for 60 gold pieces
 34181 | Snake:2  | Bought a scroll of identify for 40 gold pieces
 34256 | Snake:2  | Found Cyipnot's Magic Scroll Shop.
 34325 | Snake:2  | Found Veats' Armour Boutique.
 34335 | Snake:2  | Bought a scroll of identify for 32 gold pieces
 34335 | Snake:2  | Bought a scroll of teleportation for 48 gold pieces
 34335 | Snake:2  | Bought a scroll of enchant weapon II for 88 gold pieces
 34335 | Snake:2  | Bought a scroll of enchant weapon III for 320 gold pieces
 34395 | Snake:2  | Reached XP level 19. HP: 166/189 MP: 6/18
 34485 | Snake:2  | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
 34523 | Snake:2  | Found Ojipsunn's Magic Scroll Shop.
 34531 | Snake:2  | Bought a scroll of recharging for 88 gold pieces
 34531 | Snake:2  | Bought a scroll of enchant weapon II for 88 gold pieces
 34872 | Snake:3  | Received a gift from Trog
 35184 | Snake:3  | Found Raadoas' Book Boutique.
 35546 | Snake:4  | Reached skill level 25 in Axes
 35563 | Snake:4  | Received a gift from Trog
 35787 | Snake:5  | Entered Level 5 of the Snake Pit
 37426 | Snake:5  | Received a gift from Trog
 37429 | Snake:5  | Got a pitted spear {god gift}
 38536 | Snake:5  | Got a bloodstained cloak
 38542 | Snake:5  | Got a serpentine rune of Zot
 38546 | Snake:5  | Identified the cursed +0 cloak "Oplat" (You found it on level 5 of the Snake Pit)
 39902 | Vaults:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Vaults
 40063 | Vaults:4 | Reached XP level 20. HP: 201/201 MP: 1/18
 40200 | Vaults:4 | Received a gift from Trog
 40548 | Vaults:5 | Noticed a tentacled monstrosity
 40568 | Vaults:5 | Killed a tentacled monstrosity
 40864 | Vaults:5 | Found Fisk's Magic Scroll Shoppe.
 41013 | Vaults:5 | Bought a scroll of teleportation for 48 gold pieces
 41013 | Vaults:5 | Bought a scroll of magic mapping for 56 gold pieces
 41099 | Vaults:5 | Found Striamipp's Book Boutique.
 41099 | Vaults:5 | Noticed a storm dragon
 41114 | Vaults:5 | Killed a storm dragon
 41114 | Vaults:5 | Reached skill level 26 in Axes
 41637 | Vaults:5 | Noticed a shadow dragon
 41647 | Vaults:5 | Killed a shadow dragon
 41778 | Vaults:5 | Found Smifonua's Magic Scroll Shop.
 41782 | Vaults:5 | Bought a scroll of enchant armour for 126 gold pieces
 41782 | Vaults:5 | Bought a scroll of magic mapping for 80 gold pieces
 41782 | Vaults:5 | Bought a scroll of enchant weapon I for 126 gold pieces
 41845 | Vaults:5 | Found Ylux's Distillery.
 41849 | Vaults:5 | Bought a potion of curing for 46 gold pieces
 41849 | Vaults:5 | Bought a potion of curing for 46 gold pieces
 41849 | Vaults:5 | Bought a potion of curing for 46 gold pieces
 41849 | Vaults:5 | Bought a potion of curing for 46 gold pieces
 42810 | Vaults:5 | Noticed a shadow dragon
 42811 | Vaults:5 | Noticed a shadow dragon
 42824 | Vaults:5 | Killed a shadow dragon
 42832 | Vaults:5 | Killed a shadow dragon
 43186 | Vaults:5 | Received a gift from Trog
 43746 | Vaults:5 | Noticed a golden dragon
 43749 | Vaults:5 | Noticed a titan
 43749 | Vaults:5 | Noticed a shadow dragon
 43756 | Vaults:5 | Killed a golden dragon
 43759 | Vaults:5 | Noticed a shadow dragon
 43761 | Vaults:5 | Killed a titan
 43764 | Vaults:5 | Noticed a titan
 43765 | Vaults:5 | Killed a shadow dragon
 44485 | Vaults:5 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 212/212 MP: 6/19
 45084 | Vaults:5 | Killed a titan
 45089 | Vaults:5 | Noticed a shadow dragon
 45094 | Vaults:5 | Reached XP level 20. HP: 172/203 MP: 5/6
 45105 | Vaults:4 | Killed a shadow dragon
 45269 | Vaults:5 | Got a crude wooden ring
 45395 | Vaults:5 | Found Qetur's Food Emporium.
 45403 | Vaults:5 | Bought a meat ration for 52 gold pieces
 45403 | Vaults:5 | Bought a meat ration for 52 gold pieces
 45403 | Vaults:5 | Bought an apple for 10 gold pieces
 45403 | Vaults:5 | Bought an apple for 10 gold pieces
 45403 | Vaults:5 | Bought a choko for 5 gold pieces
 45403 | Vaults:5 | Bought a meat ration for 52 gold pieces
 45403 | Vaults:5 | Bought a bread ration for 52 gold pieces
 45403 | Vaults:5 | Bought an orange for 15 gold pieces
 45403 | Vaults:5 | Bought a pear for 10 gold pieces
 45403 | Vaults:5 | Bought a pear for 10 gold pieces
 45403 | Vaults:5 | Bought a meat ration for 52 gold pieces
 46250 | Vaults:5 | Got an ichor-stained crystal plate armour
 46254 | Vaults:5 | Got a silver rune of Zot
 46339 | Vaults:5 | Killed a shadow dragon
 46475 | Vaults:5 | Noticed a storm dragon
 46494 | Vaults:5 | Noticed a shadow dragon
 46714 | Vaults:4 | Identified the cursed -4 crystal plate armour of Minor Irritation (You found it on level 5 of the Vaults)
 46890 | Vaults:5 | Killed a storm dragon
 46890 | Vaults:5 | Reached skill level 27 in Axes
 47087 | Vaults:5 | Killed a shadow dragon
 47160 | Vaults:5 | Received a gift from Trog
 47478 | Vaults:5 | Identified the ring "Meuveck" (You found it on level 5 of the Vaults)
 47570 | Vaults:5 | Bought a scroll of enchant weapon III for 460 gold pieces
 47627 | Vaults:4 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 213/213 MP: 6/19
 48325 | Shoals:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Shoals
 48769 | Shoals:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Shoals
 48769 | Shoals:5 | Noticed Ilsuiw
 49205 | Shoals:5 | Killed Ilsuiw
 49566 | Shoals:5 | Received a gift from Trog
 49944 | Shoals:5 | Reached XP level 20. HP: 178/205 MP: 4/6
 50352 | Shoals:5 | Got a barnacled rune of Zot
 51140 | D:18     | Noticed Mara
 51143 | D:18     | Noticed Sky's illusion
 51146 | D:18     | Killed Mara
 51159 | D:18     | Killed Sky's illusion
 51551 | D:18     | Noticed Roxanne
 52038 | D:19     | Received a gift from Trog
 52092 | D:20     | Entered Level 20 of the Dungeon
 52343 | D:19     | Reached XP level 21. HP: 216/216 MP: 6/19
 52587 | D:20     | Paralysed by you for 7 turns
 52894 | D:21     | Found a gateway to Hell.
 53060 | D:21     | Received a gift from Trog
 53202 | D:21     | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
 53383 | D:22     | Noticed Mennas
 53652 | D:24     | Found a one-way gate leading to the halls of Pandemonium.
 54060 | D:25     | Entered Level 25 of the Dungeon
 54593 | D:27     | Entered Level 27 of the Dungeon
 54655 | D:27     | Received a gift from Trog
 54763 | D:27     | Reached skill level 27 in Fighting
 55562 | D:27     | Noticed Saint Roka
 55581 | D:27     | Killed Saint Roka
 55827 | D:27     | Found a one-way gate to the infinite horrors of the Abyss.
 55907 | D:27     | Received a gift from Trog
 56743 | D:27     | Reached XP level 22. HP: 228/228 MP: 6/20
 56887 | Zot:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Realm of Zot
 56894 | Zot:1    | Noticed a golden dragon
 56907 | Zot:1    | Killed a golden dragon
 57228 | Zot:2    | Noticed a tentacled monstrosity
 57234 | Zot:2    | Killed a tentacled monstrosity
 57343 | Zot:2    | Noticed a tentacled monstrosity
 57348 | Zot:2    | Killed a tentacled monstrosity
 57487 | Zot:3    | Noticed a tentacled monstrosity
 57493 | Zot:3    | Killed a tentacled monstrosity
 58020 | Zot:4    | Noticed a golden dragon
 58034 | Zot:4    | Killed a golden dragon
 58202 | Zot:5    | Entered Level 5 of the Realm of Zot
 58884 | Zot:5    | Noticed an electric golem
 58951 | Zot:5    | Killed an electric golem
 58951 | Zot:5    | Reached XP level 23. HP: 237/237 MP: 6/20
 58994 | Zot:4    | Noticed a bone dragon
 59004 | Zot:4    | Killed a bone dragon
 59140 | Zot:4    | Noticed a bone dragon
 59153 | Zot:4    | Killed a bone dragon
 59450 | Zot:3    | Noticed a golden dragon
 59453 | Zot:3    | Killed a golden dragon
 59509 | Zot:3    | Gained mutation: You digest meat inefficiently. [the power of Zot]
 59940 | Zot:4    | Noticed a curse toe
 59956 | Zot:4    | Killed a curse toe
 60387 | Zot:5    | Noticed an orb of fire
 60387 | Zot:5    | Gained mutation: You occasionally shout uncontrollably. [an orb of fire]
 60406 | Zot:5    | Killed an orb of fire
 60418 | Zot:5    | Noticed an ancient lich
 60477 | Zot:4    | Noticed a bone dragon
 60485 | Zot:4    | Killed a bone dragon
 60485 | Zot:4    | Reached skill level 27 in Armour
 60779 | Zot:4    | Received a gift from Trog
 60793 | Zot:4    | Noticed a tentacled monstrosity
 60806 | Zot:4    | Killed a tentacled monstrosity
 60806 | Zot:4    | Reached XP level 24. HP: 143/248 MP: 7/21
 61050 | Zot:4    | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 61335 | Zot:5    | Killed an ancient lich
 61751 | Zot:5    | Noticed an ancient lich
 61758 | Zot:5    | Killed an ancient lich
 61762 | Zot:5    | Noticed a Killer Klown
 61771 | Zot:5    | Killed a Killer Klown
 62174 | Zot:5    | Noticed an ancient lich
 62185 | Zot:5    | Killed an ancient lich
 62429 | Zot:5    | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 62513 | Zot:5    | Noticed an orb of fire
 62517 | Zot:5    | Gained mutation: Your vision is a little blurry. [an orb of fire]
 62519 | Zot:5    | Gained mutation: You are resistant to hostile enchantments. [an orb of fire]
 62522 | Zot:5    | Gained mutation: You are clumsy (Dex -1). [an orb of fire]
 62530 | Zot:5    | Noticed an ancient lich
 62540 | Zot:5    | Killed an orb of fire
 62544 | Zot:5    | Killed an ancient lich
 62544 | Zot:5    | Reached XP level 25. HP: 198/257 MP: 7/21
 62982 | Zot:5    | Noticed an orb of fire
 62982 | Zot:5    | Gained mutation: You are weak (Str -1). [an orb of fire]
 62984 | Zot:5    | Gained mutation: You are dopey (Int -1). [an orb of fire]
 62990 | Zot:5    | Killed an orb of fire
 63048 | Zot:5    | Noticed an orb of fire
 63048 | Zot:5    | Lost mutation: You are dopey (Int -1). [an orb of fire]
 63056 | Zot:5    | Gained mutation: You can translocate small distances at will. [an orb of fire]
 63068 | Zot:5    | Killed an orb of fire
 63160 | Zot:5    | Noticed an orb of fire
 63172 | Zot:5    | Gained mutation: You are clumsy (Dex -2). [an orb of fire]
 63176 | Zot:5    | Killed an orb of fire
 63501 | Zot:5    | Noticed a Killer Klown
 63523 | Zot:5    | Killed a Killer Klown
 63627 | Zot:5    | Noticed an orb of fire
 63634 | Zot:5    | Gained mutation: You heal slowly. [an orb of fire]
 63636 | Zot:5    | Gained mutation: You tend to lose your temper in combat. [an orb of fire]
 63646 | Zot:5    | Killed an orb of fire
 63872 | Zot:5    | Noticed an ancient lich
 63883 | Zot:5    | Killed an ancient lich
 64388 | Zot:5    | Noticed an ancient lich
 64426 | Zot:5    | Killed an ancient lich
 64607 | Zot:5    | Reached XP level 26. HP: 267/267 MP: 7/22
 64811 | Zot:5    | Reached skill level 15 in Dodging
 64995 | Zot:5    | Noticed an ancient lich
 64996 | Zot:5    | Noticed a Killer Klown
 65013 | Zot:5    | Killed an ancient lich
 65027 | Zot:5    | Killed a Killer Klown
 65336 | Zot:5    | Got the Orb of Zot
 65456 | Zot:2    | Noticed a bone dragon
 65481 | Zot:2    | Killed a bone dragon
 65688 | D:22     | Gained mutation: Your vision is quite blurry. [a neqoxec]
 66075 | D:10     | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns
 66101 | D:9      | Gained mutation: You are frail (-10% HP). [a neqoxec]
 66102 | D:9      | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in yellow scales (AC +1). [a neqoxec]
 66135 | D:8      | Noticed Cof Xeats the pandemonium lord
 66318 | D:1      | Noticed Siaguluc the pandemonium lord
 66319 | D:1      | Gained mutation: You are clumsy (Dex -3). [a neqoxec]
 66331 | D:$      | Escaped with the Orb!

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Post Thursday, 20th September 2012, 00:37

Re: Walkthrough/Guide for Crawl

I know it was a lot of work, but if you do another one it might be a good idea to slow it down quite a bit. I had trouble following much of it, and I'm not really the sort of player who needs a walkthrough. I expect a genuinely new player might find themselves mesmerized by the way your autotravel seems to teleport you around the first few dungeon levels, and every so often enemies just splatter against you. They'd completely miss the significance of many of the tactical moves you make, like pulling into the corridor to berserk on that jackal pack.
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Post Thursday, 20th September 2012, 00:51

Re: Walkthrough/Guide for Crawl

It wasn't that much work: I was planning on playing with axes anyway to test out cleave. I guess I do play kind of quickly though....

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Post Thursday, 20th September 2012, 17:56

Re: Walkthrough/Guide for Crawl

I watched quite a bit of your video, and it is amazing how fast you speed through and even deal with complex situations. I need ayoutube player I can slow down to quarter speed :) or maybe rip it to video and use VLC, One thing I learned that I didnt know/think was possible was the ability to have a couple of allies at the same time summoned, Another thing I noticed was that you didnt train one skill at a time but did 3 Most people say max out that axe before switching to armor/fighting.

Anyway, thanks for video it leaves alot to be examined.
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Post Thursday, 20th September 2012, 18:21

Re: Walkthrough/Guide for Crawl

What's official speed run record for three-runer?

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Post Thursday, 20th September 2012, 18:25

Re: Walkthrough/Guide for Crawl

1 hour 8 minutes is the fastest win without using a bot, and it was me. YAVP viewtopic.php?f=12&t=4937&p=65474&hilit=record#p65474

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Post Thursday, 20th September 2012, 19:07

Re: Walkthrough/Guide for Crawl

<Sequell> 9028. cashybrid the Eviscerator (L22 FeBe), worshipper of Trog, escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2011-04-05, with 1295305 points after 91333 turns and 1:05:11.

(Not to take away from Elynae's achievement in the least, but cashybrid is a perfectly legit win).
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Post Thursday, 20th September 2012, 19:23

Re: Walkthrough/Guide for Crawl

Crazy stuff. Also, impressive.
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Post Thursday, 20th September 2012, 22:30

Re: Walkthrough/Guide for Crawl

yoshi wrote:I watched quite a bit of your video, and it is amazing how fast you speed through and even deal with complex situations. I need ayoutube player I can slow down to quarter speed :) or maybe rip it to video and use VLC, One thing I learned that I didnt know/think was possible was the ability to have a couple of allies at the same time summoned, Another thing I noticed was that you didnt train one skill at a time but did 3 Most people say max out that axe before switching to armor/fighting.

Anyway, thanks for video it leaves alot to be examined.

It really depends... I like having a bit of extra HP and AC from fighting and armor. Going all into axes and playing as a glass cannon is a perfectly viable option though.

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Post Monday, 24th September 2012, 13:30

Re: Walkthrough/Guide for Crawl

MarvinPA wrote:<Sequell> 9028. cashybrid the Eviscerator (L22 FeBe), worshipper of Trog, escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2011-04-05, with 1295305 points after 91333 turns and 1:05:11.

(Not to take away from Elynae's achievement in the least, but cashybrid is a perfectly legit win).


I tought it used a bot. At least the morgue file is full of messages like "FLEEING" "Berserk ended" etc, I do not think that anybody types those while playing a speedrun - so I guess at least cashybrid used macros heavily. If I'm right, is the source for the bot/macros are available?

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Post Monday, 24th September 2012, 14:35

Re: Walkthrough/Guide for Crawl

It did use a bot. Still a legit win, just partially automated. I don't know if the source is available, but I'm pretty sure the source of some newer and improved bot is. FeBe got nerfed though, so the bots are less successful now.

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Post Monday, 24th September 2012, 15:29

Re: Walkthrough/Guide for Crawl

Well the name itself "cashhybrid" (hybrid with bot and casmith789) sort of gives away that it is largely bot-usage, no? In my opinion you are no longer playing yourself when you are actually using LUA scripts to take semi-advanced decisions for you. "Tab" is still you deciding "I'll attack now", similarily with "o" and "I'll explore now". The only decision involved in using a bot is "is this situation so dangerous that I need to do it myself", and things like "do I flee", "do I BiA", or even "do I quaff potions" (I think? I don't have much bot experience) are taken care of. And these decisions matter more than "in which direction do I attack" especially since you usually do that in a corridor.
"Perfectly legit win" can only really mean "without exploiting any bugs" in this context. I think it's only fair that ??hall of fame lists human players. And yes, I know that I am "somewhat" biased but I do have some arguments. :P
I hopefully will beat that record soon and then there will be no discussions. I was only 3 minutes away last time and I have been in Zot at 50 minutes before.

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Post Monday, 24th September 2012, 15:31

Re: Walkthrough/Guide for Crawl

The solution is obvious: you have to beat cashybrid! :P

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Post Monday, 24th September 2012, 15:55

Re: Walkthrough/Guide for Crawl

I feel pretty comfortable leaving bots off the real-time speedrun list. In principle, the game is completable by a sufficiently sophisticated bot, and at that point the only factor that matters to the real-time speed of the run is the power of the machine running the bot. It really doesn't make for an interesting list at that point.

cashhybrid is an interesting exercise in coding, and its successes have useful implications for the design of the game, but there's really no point in pretending that a machine can 'play' in any meaningful sense.

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Post Monday, 24th September 2012, 16:41

Re: Walkthrough/Guide for Crawl

cerebovssquire wrote:I hopefully will beat that record soon and then there will be no discussions. I was only 3 minutes away last time and I have been in Zot at 50 minutes before.

Well...

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Post Monday, 24th September 2012, 16:52

Re: Walkthrough/Guide for Crawl

Sheesh!

Looking through the notes, what does this mean?
  Code:
14903 | Lair:3   | 14903 ||| Failed to move towards target.

It appears several times in the log.

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Post Monday, 24th September 2012, 16:53

Re: Walkthrough/Guide for Crawl

It means elliptic's bot failed to move toward its target.

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Post Monday, 24th September 2012, 17:17

Re: Walkthrough/Guide for Crawl

Well...


Once CDO gets cleaving that is doable.
I think...

Also, wtf that gear
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Post Monday, 24th September 2012, 17:50

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MarvinPA wrote:
cerebovssquire wrote:I hopefully will beat that record soon and then there will be no discussions. I was only 3 minutes away last time and I have been in Zot at 50 minutes before.

Well...

Wow.
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Post Monday, 24th September 2012, 18:08

Re: Walkthrough/Guide for Crawl

I realise that the last post I made where I said what I think of the difference between human play and bot play isn't very good. It's a topic that one can't really discuss constructively because the limit between human and bot becomes completely arbitrary once you accept o and tab as human play.
I had the idea that bot play = automated defensive actions, such as fleeing or healing per potions, but that doesn't cover everything I think of as bot play, and doesn't accept things like creating a RMsl macro as human play, which is stupid too. So that's a dead end.
Personally, I think cashhybrid is skillfully made but has little to do with actual playing skill, with the exceptions of the parts where casmith789 played of course, but yeah, it isn't more than a personal opinion backed by no real arguments because I think o and tab are perfectly fine. I don't know much about bot play and apparently it involves more player interaction than I believe or so I am told in IRC. In addition, the knowledge bots don't care about this issue and will just list the fastest win. I guess I'll just steal some LUA scripts and break the record with ease.

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Post Monday, 24th September 2012, 19:30

Re: Walkthrough/Guide for Crawl

Alternate solution:

change server clock immediately before winning to the moment after you began the game -> achieve 15 rune win in "0.01 seconds"
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Post Monday, 24th September 2012, 19:46

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Southpaw wrote:Alternate solution:

change server clock immediately before winning to the moment after you began the game -> achieve 15 rune win in "0.01 seconds"

That would be cheating.
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Post Monday, 24th September 2012, 23:00

Re: Walkthrough/Guide for Crawl

"failed to move towards target" is the message you get when you press tab for autofight, but there is something like a cloud or deep water between you and the nearest enemy.
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Post Wednesday, 26th September 2012, 11:38

Re: Walkthrough/Guide for Crawl

Jabberwocky wrote:
Southpaw wrote:Alternate solution:

change server clock immediately before winning to the moment after you began the game -> achieve 15 rune win in "0.01 seconds"

That would be cheating.

Also, you run the risk of giving someone else a win in negative time. To fix that, you'd need a DeLorean and some plutonium.
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Post Thursday, 27th September 2012, 20:33

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njvack wrote:Also, you run the risk of giving someone else a win in negative time. To fix that, you'd need a DeLorean and some plutonium.


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Post Thursday, 27th September 2012, 21:35

Re: Walkthrough/Guide for Crawl

I've figured out what you have to do to get a faster win: You have to set travel delay to -20, so you get places before you started. This may be the only way you can get a faster time.
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