question about general necromancer gameplay

[snmjk20]

recently i tried some HONes, and found myself playing like a melee-necromancy hybrid all the time.
in other words, did not learn any of the animating spells.
is this normal to play a necromancer like a melee hybrid? or is it the "right way" to animate corpses?

[Blade]

Yeah, necromancer is typically hybrid. I almost never use dead animation spells just because they're fiddly.

[snmjk20]

what about twisted ressurection? is it worth learning and casting?

[XuaXua]

what about twisted ressurection? is it worth learning and casting?

It's more worth it now because you don't have to make piles of bodies; they all just crawl together, and abominations can travel levels, but I have found that by the time you get Twisted Resurrection useful, the Abominations have outlived (no pun) their usefulness.

[moocowmoocow]

Aboms are good for lair, orc, maybe swamp. After that they start getting creamed.

[crate]

Twisted res is very powerful but excruciatingly tedious, so I don't use it.

[XuaXua]

Twisted res is very powerful but excruciatingly tedious, so I don't use it.

Are you referring to the old, tedious version that required stacking corpses in a pile, or the new, current one which tries to animate all corpses in view into crawling corpses to crawl to each other?

Because casting it now on a field of dead bodies isn't tedious at all and zero busy work vs. the old version. The resulting monsters are still, well, what was said earlier about the abominations.

Maybe if you have Kiku for rapid corpse delivery and the Haste or other enhancer spells ready, it might be OK at times to trash a stair dance.

[Rapigel]

Necromancers are hybrids: getting a pain brand on your choice of top tier weapon is what necromancy (with Kiku) is all about.

[cerebovssquire]

Necromancers are hybrids: getting a pain brand on your choice of top tier weapon is what necromancy (with Kiku) is all about.

replace "top tier weapon" with "fast weapon" and "Necromancers" with "Kikubaaqudgha worshippers" and you're right, no reason to start Ne if you're going Kikubaaqudgha anyway

[BlackSheep]

Twisted res is very powerful but excruciatingly tedious, so I don't use it.

Are you referring to the old, tedious version that required stacking corpses in a pile, or the new, current one which tries to animate all corpses in view into crawling corpses to crawl to each other?

The tedium comes from shepherding around your little flock of flesh. It's like playing a summoner, but worse.

[XuaXua]

Twisted res is very powerful but excruciatingly tedious, so I don't use it.

Are you referring to the old, tedious version that required stacking corpses in a pile, or the new, current one which tries to animate all corpses in view into crawling corpses to crawl to each other?

The tedium comes from shepherding around your little flock of flesh. It's like playing a summoner, but worse.

They are pretty slow (or fast depending on the composition), aren't they?

[crate]

It's basically yred tedium but way worse.

[KoboldLord]

I honestly prefer Animate Dead over Twisted Resurrection. It's quicker to get the skills you need to take it online, and zombies from death yaks and hydrae are perfectly competitive with abominations as meatshields and extra damage. There's no frustration when they get themselves killed, since the fact that they won't follow you through stairs means they are completely expendable anyway, and even as late as Zot a single surviving draconian zombie trailing along after you can hold that orb of fire in your escape corridor long enough to break LOS. Midway between, giant or dragon zombies are pretty solid minions. Abominations are clearly superior when you are in an area where there's a lot of low-quality corpses to work with, most particularly Orc, but I don't usually find that I have nine whole spells slots to spend on making undead minions.