DEFE of Ashenzari, switch to Sif or Vehumet


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Post Wednesday, 4th April 2012, 17:25

DEFE of Ashenzari, switch to Sif or Vehumet

A noob here.

I had a good game with Ashenzari at Lv 13. But I am running out of Mana a lot. Should I stick to hit and run or switch to another god better suited to casting?

  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.10.1 character file.

Rau the Destroyer (Deep Elf Fire Elementalist)     Turns: 22775, Time: 03:24:48

HP  68/68        AC 11     Str  9      XL: 13   Next:  7%
MP  34/35        EV 18     Int 22      God: Ashenzari [******]
Gold 808         SH  0     Dex 15      Spells: 12 memorised,  2 levels left

Res.Fire  : . . .   See Invis. : +    F - staff of conjuration (curse)
Res.Cold  : . . .   Warding    : + .  s - +2 elf leather armour {rPois}
Life Prot.: + . .   Conserve   : .    (no shield)
Res.Acid. : . . .   Res.Corr.  : .    v - +0 elf wizard hat (curse)
Res.Poison: +       Clarity    : +    w - +2 elf cloak
Res.Elec. : .       Spirit.Shd : .    E - +1 pair of dwarf gloves
Sust.Abil.: + .     Stasis     : .    B - +2 pair of dwarf boots
Res.Mut.  : .       Ctrl.Telep.: +    o - cursed amulet of warding
Res.Rott. : .       Levitation : .    z - ring of sustenance
Saprovore : . . .   Ctrl.Flight: .    A - cursed ring of sustain abilities

@: somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, quite stealthy
A: deformed body, deterioration 1, teleport control
a: Scrying, Transfer Knowledge, Renounce Religion


You are on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Ashenzari.
Ashenzari is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 5 branches of the dungeon, and seen 23 of its levels.

You have collected 1157 gold pieces.
You have spent 369 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Missiles
 r - 8 poisoned darts (quivered)
 K - 2 +3 darts
Armour
 s - a +2 elven leather armour of poison resistance (worn)
 v - a cursed +0 elven wizard hat (worn)
 w - a +2 elven cloak (worn)
 B - a +2 pair of dwarven boots (worn)
 D - a +0 robe of fire resistance
 E - a +1 pair of dwarven gloves (worn)
Magical devices
 q - a wand of digging (6)
Comestibles
 d - 2 apples
 g - 4 grapes
 t - 2 meat rations
 C - a choko
Scrolls
 H - 2 scrolls of teleportation
 I - a scroll of summoning
Jewellery
 h - an uncursed notched copper ring {tried}
 j - an uncursed ring of protection from magic
 o - a cursed amulet of warding (around neck)
 y - an uncursed ring of teleportation
 z - a ring of sustenance (right hand)
 A - a cursed ring of sustain abilities (left hand)
Potions
 a - 2 potions of resistance
 i - a potion of speed
 n - 6 potions of curing
 p - 4 potions of heal wounds
Books
 c - a book of Annihilations   
   WARNING: If you fail in an attempt to memorise a spell from this book, the
   book will lash out at you.
   
   Spells                             Type                      Level
   Poison Arrow                       Conjuration/Poison           6
   *Orb of Destruction                Conjuration                  7
   Chain Lightning                    Conjuration/Air              8
   Lehudib's Crystal Spear            Conjuration/Earth            8
   Ice Storm                          Conjuration/Ice              9
   Fire Storm                         Conjuration/Fire             9
Magical staves
 F - a cursed staff of conjuration (weapon)


   Skills:
 - Level 4.2 Fighting
 - Level 1.0 Throwing
 + Level 0.1 Armour
 + Level 11.0 Dodging
 - Level 5.7 Stealth
 - Level 1.0 Stabbing
 - Level 0.3 Traps & Doors
 - Level 0.2 Unarmed Combat
 - Level 13.0(16.2) Spellcasting
 + Level 15.2(17.8) Conjurations
 - Level 3.2(5.8) Charms
 - Level 12.1(14.7) Fire Magic
 - Level 4.0(6.8) Air Magic
 - Level 3.2(6.3) Evocations


You have 2 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Flame Tongue          Fire/Conj      ######       0%          1    None
b - Throw Flame           Fire/Conj      #######      0%          2    None
c - Animate Skeleton      Necr           N/A          3%          1    None
d - Conjure Flame         Fire/Conj      ########.    0%          3    None
e - Inner Flame           Fire/Hex       #######..    1%          3    None
f - Sticky Flame          Fire/Conj      ########.    1%          4    None
g - Fireball              Fire/Conj      ########..   1%          5    None
h - Repel Missiles        Air/Chrm       ######....   1%          2    None
i - Iskenderun's Mystic   Conj           ########.    1%          4    None
j - Shroud of Golubria    Chrm/Tloc      #####.....   1%          2    None
k - Orb of Destruction    Conj           ########..   1%          7    Honeycomb
l - Swiftness             Air/Chrm       ######....   1%          2    None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/27)            Temple (1/1) D:6             Orc (1/4) D:11
   Lair (5/8) D:11          Swamp (1/5) Lair:3     
Shoals: Lair:3-6     Snake: Lair:3-6     Vault: D:14-19     

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Sif Muna
The Shining One
Trog
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin

Shops:
D:7: !  D:11: ([  D:14: *[(


                    Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body.
Your body is slowly deteriorating.
You can control translocations.


Message History

Press: ? - help, Shift-Dir - straight line, f/p - slime creature
Aim: a slime creature (flame, severely wounded)
You feel a surge of power! The flame hits the slime creature.
The slime creature is almost dead.
The slime creature is engulfed in roaring flames.
You kill the slime creature!
You start resting.
You start to feel a little slower.
You start resting.
You feel sluggish.
You start resting.
You feel dopey for a moment.
You start resting.
You start resting.
HP restored.
You start resting.
You feel dopey for a moment.
Welcome back, Rau the Deep Elf Fire Elementalist.
Ashenzari says: Partake of my vision. Partake of my curse.
Press ? for a list of commands and other information.

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You can see a friendly jackal skeleton.

Vanquished Creatures
  Gastronok (D:10)
  Erica (D:13)
  A hydra (D:8)
  4 lindwurms (D:11)
  3 hill giants
  An unseen horror (D:14)
  Joseph (D:11)
  Urug (D:12)
  A black mamba (Lair:2)
  2 feature mimics
  An elephant slug (Lair:2)
  4 slime creatures
  2 spiny frogs
  3 elephants (Lair:4)
  A wolf spider (D:13)
  4 ugly things (D:13)
  Grinder (D:3)
  3 trolls
  Sonja (D:10)
  A baby alligator (Lair:3)
  11 blink frogs
  2 basilisks
  3 two-headed ogres
  The ghost of Rau the Grappler, an experienced NaTm of Cheibriados (D:9)
  2 wyverns
  A merfolk (D:11)
  A hungry ghost (D:13)
  7 yaks
  Eustachio (D:6)
  A wraith (D:11)
  A blink frog skeleton (D:13)
  A fire drake (Lair:4)
  4 vampire mosquitoes (D:13)
  A hippogriff (D:7)
  A war dog (Lair:5)
  Edmund (D:7)
  A necrophage (D:13)
  A soldier ant (D:12)
  Purgy (D:3)
  6 ice beasts
  6 sky beasts
  A manticore (D:11)
  3 orc warriors
  3 phantoms
  A yak skeleton (D:12)
  A yellow wasp (D:11)
  A swamp drake (Lair:3)
  11 centaurs
  6 ogres
  4 giant slugs
  A yellow wasp zombie (D:10)
  4 crocodiles
  A big kobold (D:12)
  A wolf (Lair:1)
  12 giant frogs
  A giant leech (Swamp:1)
  An agate snail (Lair:4)
  3 water moccasins
  A water moccasin skeleton (Lair:2)
  A basilisk skeleton (D:12)
  A giant frog skeleton (Lair:1)
  15 wights
  16 killer bees
  2 crimson imps
  A big kobold skeleton (D:6)
  4 goliath beetles
  Crazy Yiuf (D:3)
  5 orc priests
  6 iguanas
  4 worker ants
  5 hounds
  7 porcupines
  8 orc wizards
  A scorpion (D:10)
  9 sheep
  Ijyb (D:3)
  Jessica (D:3)
  4 jellies
  A goliath beetle zombie (D:11)
  A scorpion zombie (D:11)
  9 adders
  3 giant centipedes
  3 gnolls (D:8)
  13 green rats
  A giant centipede zombie (D:10)
  3 iguana skeletons
  3 giant mites
  4 worms
  A porcupine skeleton (Lair:1)
  A giant eyeball (D:7)
  6 giant geckos
  3 oozes
  38 orcs
  4 ball pythons
  21 bats
  9 giant cockroaches
  16 goblins
  14 hobgoblins
  9 jackals
  8 quokkas
  6 giant newts
  A giant spore (D:12)
  A goblin zombie (D:5)
  A hobgoblin skeleton (D:10)
  A jackal skeleton (Lair:5)
  18 kobolds
  2 orc skeletons
  An orc zombie (D:11)
  23 rats
  2 rat skeletons
  A rat zombie (D:5)
  9 ballistomycetes
  3 fungi
  A plant (Lair:4)
  4 toadstools
484 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  A spiny frog (Lair:3)
  A blink frog (Lair:4)
  A yak (D:12)
  A black bear (Lair:1)
  A water moccasin (Lair:3)
  2 agate snails
  An eye of draining (D:12)
  4 crimson imps
  A worker ant (D:13)
  A jelly (D:13)
  A sheep (Lair:1)
  An adder (D:4)
  2 green rats
  A ball python (D:5)
  A giant cockroach (D:12)
  4 jackals (Lair:3)
  A giant newt (D:6)
  A goblin (D:5)
  An orc skeleton (D:7)
  A rat (Lair:2)
  3 ballistomycetes
  2 bushes
  5 fungi
  3 plants
  2 toadstools
43 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A baby alligator skeleton (Lair:3)
  A troll skeleton (D:12)
  4 centaur skeletons
  2 giant frog skeletons
  A crocodile skeleton (Lair:3)
  A hound skeleton (D:13)
  2 sheep skeletons (Lair:1)
  An adder skeleton (D:10)
  2 iguana skeletons
  A porcupine skeleton (Lair:3)
  A bat skeleton (D:8)
  A green rat skeleton (Lair:4)
  A giant spore (D:11)
  4 goblin skeletons
  2 hobgoblin skeletons (D:6)
  2 jackal skeletons
  2 kobolds
  A kobold skeleton (D:6)
  16 orc skeletons
  A quokka skeleton (Lair:3)
  8 rat skeletons
  A ballistomycete (D:11)
  A fungus (Lair:5)
  9 toadstools
66 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 593 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
--------------------------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Rau, the Deep Elf Fire Elementalist, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 10/10 MP: 4/4
   152 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 13/15 MP: 7/7
   185 | D:1      | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Flame
   276 | D:1      | Reached skill level 1 in Stabbing
   308 | D:1      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
   318 | D:1      | Got an engraved book
   330 | D:1      | Identified Ashenzari's Catalogue of Rapid Deboning (You found it on level 1 of the Dungeon)
   332 | D:1      | Learned a level 1 spell: Animate Skeleton
   360 | D:1      | Became a worshipper of Ashenzari the Shackled
  1223 | D:1      | Reached skill level 4 in Spellcasting
  1428 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 15/19 MP: 5/11
  1592 | D:2      | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing
  1778 | D:2      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  2725 | D:3      | Noticed Ijyb
  3004 | D:3      | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame
  3008 | D:3      | Learned a level 3 spell: Inner Flame
  3259 | D:3      | Noticed Jessica
  3261 | D:3      | Noticed Grinder
  3268 | D:3      | Killed Jessica
  3268 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Fire Magic
  3268 | D:3      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 24/24 MP: 6/14
  3374 | D:3      | Paralysed by Grinder for 2 turns
  3383 | D:3      | Killed Grinder
  3383 | D:3      | Reached skill level 7 in Fire Magic
  3383 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 26/28 MP: 1/17
  3383 | D:3      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 29/32 MP: 1/19
  3417 | D:3      | Learned a level 4 spell: Sticky Flame
  3505 | D:3      | Gained mutation: Your body is slowly deteriorating.
  3505 | D:3      | Gained mutation: You can control translocations.
  3505 | D:3      | Gained mutation: Armour fits poorly on your strangely shaped body.
  3547 | D:3      | Killed Ijyb
  4176 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
  4531 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  4884 | D:5      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 36/36 MP: 15/22
  4939 | D:5      | Found a sand-covered staircase.
  5809 | D:6      | Acquired Ashenzari's first power
  5891 | D:6      | Got the cursed pair of boots of Royalty {Str-2}
  5903 | D:6      | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
  6030 | D:6      | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
  6098 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 41/41 MP: 18/25
  6211 | D:6      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  6212 | D:6      | Noticed Eustachio
  6216 | D:6      | Killed Eustachio
  6219 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  6232 | Temple   | Learned a level 5 spell: Fireball
  6970 | D:7      | Found Zorai's Distillery.
  6976 | D:7      | Reached skill level 8 in Spellcasting
  6976 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations
  6979 | D:7      | Noticed Edmund
  6986 | D:7      | Killed Edmund
  6990 | D:7      | Bought a potion of paralysis for 13 gold pieces
  7139 | D:7      | Acquired Ashenzari's second power
  7269 | D:7      | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
  7564 | D:7      | Paralysed by a giant eyeball for 2 turns
  7725 | D:5      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 45/45 MP: 20/28
  7901 | D:3      | Noticed Crazy Yiuf
  7904 | D:3      | Killed Crazy Yiuf
  7904 | D:3      | Identified a cloak of preservation (You took it off Crazy Yiuf on level 3 of the Dungeon)
  7963 | D:3      | Noticed Purgy
  7965 | D:3      | Killed Purgy
  7965 | D:3      | Reached skill level 9 in Spellcasting
  8551 | D:8      | Acquired Ashenzari's third power
  8606 | D:8      | Noticed a six-headed hydra
  8616 | D:8      | Killed a six-headed hydra
  8616 | D:8      | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting
  8980 | D:9      | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
  9089 | D:9      | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
  9090 | D:9      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 50/50 MP: 30/30
  9180 | D:9      | Noticed Rau's ghost (experienced NaTm)
  9190 | D:9      | Killed Rau's ghost
  9190 | D:9      | Reached skill level 11 in Spellcasting
  9712 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 10415 | Temple   | Acquired Ashenzari's fourth power
 10734 | D:10     | Reached skill level 12 in Spellcasting
 10867 | D:10     | Reached skill level 10 in Fire Magic
 10894 | D:10     | Noticed Sonja
 10899 | D:10     | Killed Sonja
 10982 | D:10     | Noticed Gastronok
 10997 | D:10     | Killed Gastronok
 10997 | D:10     | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations
 11230 | D:11     | Found Pla Brij's Weapon Shoppe.
 11230 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 11230 | D:11     | Found Ifuriry's Armour Shoppe.
 11267 | D:11     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 54/54 MP: 29/32
 11446 | D:11     | Noticed Joseph
 11768 | D:11     | Reached XP level 10. HP: 44/50 MP: 29/31
 11869 | D:11     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 54/54 MP: 25/32
 11875 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 11897 | D:11     | Killed Joseph
 12631 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 12739 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 13019 | Lair:1   | Found a frozen archway.
 13139 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth
 13463 | Lair:2   | Learned a level 2 spell: Repel Missiles
 13468 | Lair:2   | Learned a level 2 spell: Fire Brand
 13607 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 1 in Air Magic
 13897 | Lair:2   | Learned a level 2 spell: Shroud of Golubria
 14647 | Lair:2   | Learned a level 7 spell: Orb of Destruction
 15027 | Temple   | Learned a level 4 spell: Iskenderun's Mystic Blast
 15326 | Lair:3   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 15444 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 16468 | Lair:4   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 64/64 MP: 8/33
 16959 | Lair:4   | Identified the +6 splint mail "Pothemit"
 18485 | D:12     | Identified the +3,+3 spear of Infection
 18596 | D:12     | Identified the cursed +6,-4 sabre "Setaar"
 18989 | D:12     | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 18990 | D:12     | Got a yellowed book
 18991 | D:12     | Identified the Papyrus of Gliding Conjuration (You acquired it on level 12 of the Dungeon)
 19028 | D:12     | Reached skill level 13 in Conjurations
 19165 | D:12     | Noticed Urug
 19170 | D:12     | Killed Urug
 19633 | D:13     | Reached skill level 14 in Conjurations
 20008 | D:13     | Learned a level 2 spell: Swiftness
 20402 | D:13     | Noticed Erica
 20404 | D:13     | Killed Erica
 20404 | D:13     | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 21031 | D:14     | Entered Level 14 of the Dungeon
 21190 | D:14     | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
 21256 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 21366 | D:14     | Found Ihug's Weapon Boutique.
 21447 | D:14     | Found Amugeck's Assorted Antiques.
 21456 | D:14     | Found Kabem's Armour Emporium.
 21469 | D:14     | Bought a +2 elven leather armour of poison resistance for 356 gold pieces
 22035 | D:11     | Reached XP level 13. HP: 68/68 MP: 8/35
 22169 | D:11     | Got an inconspicuous book
 22170 | D:11     | Identified Mnotiz's Collected Works on Hexes (You found it on level 11 of the Dungeon)
 22583 | Swamp:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp
 22606 | Swamp:1  | Reached skill level 15 in Conjurations


Blades Runner

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Post Wednesday, 4th April 2012, 17:57

Re: DEFE of Ashenzari, switch to Sif or Vehumet

Switching from Ash is probably a bad idea, especially at your character's level. Your spell success rates and power will plummet, spells will start costing more hunger, and you won't even be able to run away as easily. See http://crawl.develz.org/info/index.php?q=ashenzari+wrath.

If possible, try to find the spell sublimation of blood or a staff of channeling, if mana is a problem. Or, just start running away sooner and come back again once mana is restored.

Ziggurat Zagger

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Post Wednesday, 4th April 2012, 18:17

Re: DEFE of Ashenzari, switch to Sif or Vehumet

You should uncurse that staff of conjuration, find a decent weapon, and use that instead (curse it if you want the boost, leave it uncursed if you still want your staff of conj). Then you can kill dudes without spending mp by just pressing tab.

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Post Wednesday, 4th April 2012, 20:03

Re: DEFE of Ashenzari, switch to Sif or Vehumet

You could also try to find a crystal ball and pump evocations.

http://crawl.chaosforge.org/index.php?t ... stal_Balls
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Post Thursday, 5th April 2012, 05:22

Re: DEFE of Ashenzari, switch to Sif or Vehumet

Just make sure you have a backup method of channeling mana, since if the crystal ball fails you'll have 0 mp left.
"It's lucky to be smart, but smarter to be lucky."
- sirlaser the Eclecticist (Human Wanderer), worshipper of Ashenzari

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