Immutable Laws of the Dungeon of Zot

[varsovie]

The unidentified potion you quaff before dying stupidly will always be brilliance. Always.

You feel more clever!
The rat bites!
You die...

Even when you go on D2 and Sigmun spawn next to the stair :

You feel more clever all of a sudden.
It was a potion of brilliance. Sigmund hits you with a runed scythe!
Ouch! That really hurt!
You die...

[infinitevox]

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I just found an amulet of Faith 1 level up.
Is this a bug?
Or does this game seriously hate me?

[pratamawirya]

Usually, there's a secret door somewhere.

[Grimm]

There's always a secret door in that one.

[infinitevox]

I know some of the stuff I'm posting isn't exactly within the theme of the thread, but I really don't know where else to put it.

Thought I would share this gem though:

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[Blade]

The one time you will *ever* find a rod of destruction on early dungeon levels, it will be with a Minotaur Berserker. -3 aptitude or no, I'm tempted to train my evocations skill up just for the pleasure of using this thing.

[Tiber]

The one time you will *ever* find a rod of destruction on early dungeon levels, it will be with a Minotaur Berserker. -3 aptitude or no, I'm tempted to train my evocations skill up just for the pleasure of using this thing.

YES YES YES YES YES.

YES.

As a berserker, rods are your only way to cast spells short of abandoning Trog, meaning that rods are actually most useful for them. And even if you can cast spells, rods are a great way to cast skills without worrying about training multiple skills or success rates, or if you want a plan B for if you run out of MP.

[Blade]

The one time you will *ever* find a rod of destruction on early dungeon levels, it will be with a Minotaur Berserker. -3 aptitude or no, I'm tempted to train my evocations skill up just for the pleasure of using this thing.

YES YES YES YES YES.

YES.

As a berserker, rods are your only way to cast spells short of abandoning Trog, meaning that rods are actually most useful for them. And even if you can cast spells, rods are a great way to cast skills without worrying about training multiple skills or success rates, or if you want a plan B for if you run out of MP.

Huh. I stand corrected. This is awesome. Freezing Cloud is my new Berserk (i.e. strong enemy weakening system)

[Stormfox]

The one time you will *ever* find a rod of destruction on early dungeon levels, it will be with a Minotaur Berserker. -3 aptitude or no, I'm tempted to train my evocations skill up just for the pleasure of using this thing.

As you've seen, go ahead and train it. It's not like you're dumping the XP into spell skills.

[Blade]

The one time you will *ever* find a rod of destruction on early dungeon levels, it will be with a Minotaur Berserker. -3 aptitude or no, I'm tempted to train my evocations skill up just for the pleasure of using this thing.

As you've seen, go ahead and train it. It's not like you're dumping the XP into spell skills.

I did, and it was awesome until an Ogre Mage wiped the floor with me. Turns out that -3 aptitude means *nothing* with the limited skills a Minotaur needs; I got it up to 10 or 11 by the time I died stairdancing between Orc:3 and 4.

On that note, another immutable rule: Unique monsters (and more powerful monsters than you've prepared for) will appear at a rate exactly proportional to your current confidence and enjoyment of your character.

[TwilightPhoenix]

Player: "Man, this one is so awesome and fun, I know for a fact that this character is going to get 15 runes and win!"

Game: "Six Ancient Liches come into view."

Player: "...F!%K!"

[joellercoaster]

If you find a +2 long sword of electrocution on D:4, you will immediately find another one on D:5.

Hooray.

[flamingo]

Berserkitis will only kick in against lone quokkas, never against the pack of Ys that has just surrounded you.

[joellercoaster]

If you find a +2 long sword of electrocution on D:4, you will immediately find another one on D:5.

And another on Lair:2

Then you will discover that trunk has an electricity-related crash!

True story.

[dassem]

Player: "Man, this one is so awesome and fun, I know for a fact that this character is going to get 15 runes and win!"

Game: "Six Ancient Liches come into view."

Player: "...F!%K!"

If, at that point, your response involves evil laughter and lots of high level magic then you really will win.

Here were a fairly interesting 100 turns:

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217969 | Zig:20   | Noticed an ancient lich
217973 | Zig:20   | Defeated an ancient lich
217974 | Zig:20   | Noticed an ancient lich
217974 | Zig:20   | Noticed an ancient lich
217975 | Zig:20   | Noticed an ancient lich
217975 | Zig:20   | Defeated an ancient lich
217976 | Zig:20   | Defeated an ancient lich
217977 | Zig:20   | Noticed an ancient lich
217977 | Zig:20   | Noticed an ancient lich
217978 | Zig:20   | Noticed an ancient lich
217978 | Zig:20   | Defeated an ancient lich
217979 | Zig:20   | Noticed an ancient lich
217981 | Zig:20   | Defeated an ancient lich
217984 | Zig:20   | Defeated an ancient lich
218024 | Zig:20   | Defeated an ancient lich
218029 | Zig:20   | Noticed an ancient lich
218031 | Zig:20   | Defeated an ancient lich
218068 | Zig:20   | Defeated an ancient lich


[Blade]

When playing a joke character, you will find seven scrolls of blinking and an experience pot before D:7.

[Burningled]

When you're finally sick of diving for Nemelex in the hopes of lots of experience cards and play a MfCK out of frustration; you will find no less than 10 permafood rations and an assortment of potions of brilliance/agility/might before the temple on D:4.

Edit: So you'll abandon him and go for Nemelex with your food rations anyways. You'll net yourself 5 Experience cards and some decks of escape and summoning, do really well, and then die an ordinary boring death via 2 centaurs.

[Tiber]

When you are facing a pack of enemies (especially a kobold or orc vault) and think, "I can use inner flame and enslavement, they shouldn't kill it before I have a chance to step back," know that you are wrong.

[Pteriforever]

The very next unidentified scroll you read after accidentally equipping a piece of cursed gear will always be Detect Curse.

[TehDruid]

The moment when you see a Crystal Platemail on D:1 is the moment you're not playing a MDFi. Happened to me on an Ogre.

[varsovie]

The very next unidentified scroll you read after accidentally equipping a piece of cursed gear will always be Detect Curse.

Also after ID-ing your lone remove curse scroll, the next will be a scroll of curse weapon while you have a blunt weapon.
(and no other remove curse on 5 level, last permafood ate, die because starving and remark you have TWO potion of porridge )

[joellercoaster]

The only time a long blade-using character of yours finds a triple sword EVER, it will be an Abyssal Knight who's already used Lugonu's power on a Great Sword.

[AtT]

If you stumble upon Erolcha, she will be awake, and immediately banish you to the abyss.

[bobross419]

If you buy a ring of See Invis at a shop you will find one on the ground right around the corner... and on the next level, and in about 8 more places before you ever come across the one unseen horror in the whole game deep down in Vaults.

[TehDruid]

You start as a DD melee build specialized in small blades just in case you get a lucky dagger of vamp, and you do! On D1, may I add. Then you wipe horribly on some form of mini-hive on D11 by 3rd degree poisoning (bad even with the innate damage shaving!) with no potions of healing, heal wounds or charges on your wand (or scrolls of recharging for that matter). Happened to me just an hour ago. (0.10)

[AtT]

you sack any maxMP on it?

[TehDruid]

Actually not only that but I was worshipping Chei (but I tend to forget activated abilities of gods a lot!! " and could cast Slouch at excellent. Kinda thought "Hey I can kill a queen bee and one killer bee more just with my weap, I just killed about 10 killer bees". I rush too much some times.

I actually have never progressed that far with a DD before. Almost never play the race.

[A spy]

Didn't you get poison resistance from Chei ???

[pratamawirya]

Didn't you get poison resistance from Chei ???

Chei doesn't give that. Chei gives: rN+, rC+, and rF+.

[Curio]

you had no max Mp for recharge?

[TehDruid]

I, um... Forgot the ability? That's why I say "not only that but I forgot slouch too". I thought it was obvious...

[dassem]

If you decide that your present weapon is likely to be as good as it gets until much later in the game and blow all your enchant weapon scrolls on it, the next baddie you fight will drop an awesome weapon of your preferred type... Sigh.
(In this case, it was a +7,+4 trident of venom, with the 0.10 inbuilt reaching ability, for a Merfolk mage/fighter hybrid. That rocks the early game, where many things are susceptible. I'm hoping for a nice demon trident in the endgame, but last time I cleared Zot before I got one of those with a decent brand...)

On a similar note, if you find a shield of reflection, then Okawaru and the RNG will insist on showering you with other tempting shields too...
(Though at least I have some skill levels in shield; unlike the swords that Oka seems to expect me to wield).

[dassem]

If you stumble upon Erolcha, she will be awake, and immediately banish you to the abyss.

Ditto for Lousise. Apparently.

[dassem]

(While banished to the abyss:)
If you have just acquired the mutation that makes your vision a little blurry, when a tormentor comes into view, your chances of successfully reading a scroll of fog are approximately zero...

Although following up on that law: It seems that there is no law that says your mid-game character won't survive the abyss just because he only has 6 HP, a tormentor, a giant orange brain, and a smoke demon all nearby. Blink, swiftness, and generous dollop of luck might just be enough.

[varsovie]

When and only when you are playing a pure wizard, two altar of okawaru, one of trog and makhleb will appair on D1 and D2.
The temple is of course in the far end of D7, defended by a band of orc priest. ><

[A spy]

Unwielding a weapon of Distortion will cast you into the Abyss 99.9% of the time if you don't need it.
If you are in Pandemonium or Hell, however, it will make you Glow instead.

[bobross419]

Unwielding a weapon of Distortion will cast you into the Abyss 99.9% of the time if you don't need it.
If you are in Pandemonium or Hell, however, it will make you Glow instead.

Repeatedly

[bobross419]

Unwielding a weapon of Distortion will cast you into the Abyss 99.9% of the time if you don't need it.
If you are in Pandemonium or Hell, however, it will make you Glow instead.

Repeatedly

This shit is happening to me right now. 3 random tele + confusion, 5 glows... still no Abyss

Make that 8 and i'm glowing red now due to impatience with this bullshit game.

9 Glows before I got sent to the Abyss. Retarded

[Curio]

in trunk, upon leaving abyss you will end up in pan again. Or so i heard.

[varsovie]

If the RNG seems good to you (no sigmun, a speed brand weapon on D2), it's only to back stab you with no amulets nor rings at all and getting next to a troll and a ogre with a giant spiked club on D11.

[AtT]

If the RNG seems good to you (no sigmun, a speed brand weapon on D2), it's only to back stab you with no amulets nor rings at all and getting next to a troll and a ogre with a giant spiked club on D11.

I played a game once that lasted like 100k turns (until I died ) without a single amulet. And only like 4 rings

[TwilightPhoenix]

If you make a character and aggressively build to take advantage of two-handed axes, you will find three large shields in Lair.

Edit: And found a fourth in Snake.

[Blade]

If the RNG is kind to you with very few OOD monsters, lots of good items, and just about everything you need pre-Lair, it will suddenly turn on you and spawn Mara, Saint Roka, and Snorg just inside Snake:1.

I had no clue Mara could spawn that early.

[TwilightPhoenix]

What level is Lair entrance on? And what level is Snake entrance on?

[joellercoaster]

If you encounter Sigmund late enough that you can beat him at first asking, he'll spawn with a wand of Polymorph Other.

[Blade]

What level is Lair entrance on? And what level is Snake entrance on?

That appears to have been the problem. Lair on D:11, Snake on Lair:6. I am no longer surprised.

[AtT]

If you manage to not die even though you forgot to identify nearly all of your potions, the first one you quaff will give you a character crippling mutation.

[A spy]

If you manage to not die even though you forgot to identify nearly all of your potions, the first one you quaff will give you a character crippling mutation.

Actually, the second one will, since the first was your only potion of cure mutation !

[Blade]

Playing a caster, you will find over a dozen armour shops and several weapon shops, along with no book stores.

Playing a melee character, you will find over a dozen book shops and all the armour shops you find will contain trash.

Yes, this actually happened.

[Grimm]

The trick is to play the exact same build dozens of times in a row. That way, one fine day, inevitably, all the ducks will line up and you will get the perfect gear and your god's altar on D:1.