Slaying and +hit/+dam

[fnwc]

I'm trying to figure out the difference in bonuses to hit/damage when applied to rings of slaying vs other items (randart amulets, armor, etc).

They seem to be out of whack when compared to weapon +hit/damage, which seems to be a bit counterintuitive to me.

Does anyone know the difference of power between these bonuses when they appear on different pieces of equipment?

Thanks!

[moekitten]

http://crawl.develz.org/info/index.php? ... of+slaying
>Makes you more deadly in both ranged and hand-to-hand combat. The damage bonus is added to weapon base damage, so it scales with weapon and Fighting skills.

http://crawl.develz.org/info/index.php? ... n%20damage
>Approximately: 1d(base*strength_bonus + slaying)*skill_bonus + 1d(to_dam) + various bonuses. Weapon brand is applied after monster AC reduction.

[brendGol]

http://crawl.develz.org/info/index.php?q=ring+of+slaying
>Makes you more deadly in both ranged and hand-to-hand combat. The damage bonus is added to weapon base damage, so it scales with weapon and Fighting skills.

WOW' thanks kitten.. i appreciate your post since i am a newbie on the game..

“Take things as they are. Punch with sap glove when you have to punch. Kick when you have to kick.”

[AnnDempsey]

It is an advantage to have an weapon +hit/damage to destroy a monster or a heroes.

[JeffQyzt]

Note that the current trunk version has changes to the slaying effect (so it's more like regular weapon enchantment.)

[AnnDempsey]

I much more like the changes of their attack powers..


“Take things as they are. Punch with sap steel shot gloves when you have to punch. Kick when you have to kick.”

[JeffQyzt]

It's not just more like regular weapon enchantment in 0.10, it has the same exact effect.

Hrm...if I understood the code correctly (BIG caveat there), it performs exactly the same way, but is tracked separately (as opposed to just being additive.) So if you've got say a +5 dagger with +3 in slaying bonuses, you'd do dagger damage + 1d5 for the enchantment + 1d3 for the slaying (other factors aside.) If it were "the exact same effect", I'd expect it to be dagger damage + 1d8 (for slaying/enchantment).

Note - the formula above is probably way oversimplified - but hopefully it conveys the point.

[tormodpwns]

So im guessing it should be:

1d(base dmg)(str and dex bonus)(skill bonus) + 1d(enchantment + slaying + 1)-1

Massive nerf on slaying.