Ru: Is max piety worth it?


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Snake Sneak

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Post Tuesday, 19th November 2019, 02:57

Ru: Is max piety worth it?

With Ru, going from 5-star to 6-star piety doesn't give you new abilities, but it does strengthen your existing abilities.
So, is it worthwhile?

For reference, my character is at 5-star piety and has been offered Words, Eye and Skill sacrifices.
None of them would get me to 6-star piety, so I would have to make another sacrifice.

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.25-a0-110-ge29c8f2 (webtiles) character file.

MrDizzy the Basher (Human Fighter)                 Turns: 12410, Time: 01:06:31

Health: 95/99      AC: 29    Str: 25    XL:     12   Next: 16%
Magic:  24/24      EV:  8    Int:  5    God:    Ru [*****.]
Gold:   82         SH: 10    Dex: 16    Spells: 11/11 levels left

rFire    + . .     SeeInvis .   a - +0 flail (crush)
rCold    . . .     Gourm    .   c - +0 shield
rNeg     . . .     Faith    .   B - +12 chain mail "Zoyrgh" {rF+ Str+3 Int-4 Dex+4}
rPois    +         Spirit   .   f - +0 helmet
rElec    .         Reflect  .   y - +0 cloak
rCorr    .         Harm     .   i - +1 pair of gloves
MR       .....                  Q - +2 pair of boots {run}
Stlth    ..........             u - amulet of rage
HPRegen  0.26/turn              O - +5 ring of evasion
MPRegen  0.19/turn              D - ring "Piaffu" {rPois MP+9}

@: quick
A: hated by all, no fire magic, no necromancy magic, no translocations magic,
reduced EV 1, magic vulnerability 1
a: Sacrifice Words, Sacrifice an Eye, Sacrifice Skill, Reject Sacrifices, Draw
Out Power, Power Leap, Apocalypse, Renounce Religion, Evoke Berserk Rage


You are on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts.
You worship Ru.
Ru is extremely pleased with you.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 12 of its levels.
You have also visited: Sewer.

You have collected 773 gold pieces.
You have spent 691 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 a - a +0 flail of crushing (weapon)
Missiles
 e - 310 stones
 T - 3 boomerangs (quivered)
Armour
 c - a +0 shield (worn)
 f - a +0 helmet (worn)
 i - a +1 pair of gloves (worn)
 y - a +0 cloak (worn)
 B - the +12 chain mail "Zoyrgh" (worn) {rF+ Str+3 Int-4 Dex+4}
   (You found it on level 5 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It affects your strength (+3).
   It affects your intelligence (-4).
   It affects your dexterity (+4).
   It protects you from fire.
 Q - a +2 pair of boots of running (worn)
Jewellery
 j - an uncursed ring of stealth
 o - a +2 amulet of reflection
 q - an uncursed ring of positive energy
 u - an amulet of rage (around neck)
 D - the ring "Piaffu" (right hand) {rPois MP+9}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 5 of the Dungeon)   
   
   [ring of magical power]
   
   It protects you from poison.
   It affects your magic capacity (+9).
 F - an uncursed ring of flight
 G - an uncursed ring of fire
 H - an uncursed ring of ice
 O - a +5 ring of evasion (left hand)
Wands
 d - a wand of disintegration (17)
 g - a wand of acid (9)
 N - a wand of iceblast (10)
Scrolls
 h - a scroll of enchant weapon
 k - 10 scrolls of teleportation
 s - a scroll labeled PYLUDU NURE
 v - a scroll of blinking
 w - a scroll labeled FAWUUMUSUMN
 C - a scroll labeled HIDAUTSYATH
 J - 4 scrolls of remove curse
 K - a scroll labeled OCE IBEYBROPN
 R - a scroll labeled TYEKIE UGUOJ
Potions
 b - 4 potions of flight
 n - 3 potions of haste
 p - a potion of cancellation
 t - 2 potions of lignification
 A - 3 potions of heal wounds
 E - 2 potions of might
 L - a potion of agility
 M - a potion of ambrosia
 U - a potion of curing
Miscellaneous
 I - a lamp of fire
Comestibles
 l - 2 chunks of flesh
 r - 19 rations


   Skills:
 + Level 10.7 Fighting
 + Level 13.5 Maces & Flails
 + Level 4.3 Armour
 + Level 4.3 Dodging
 - Level 3.0 Shields
 - Level 4.0 Evocations


You have 11 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.
Your spell library contains the following spells:

 Spells                   Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
 Beastly Appendage        Tmut           #.....       100%        1    ##.....
 Confusing Touch          Hex            #.....       100%        1    ##.....
 Spider Form              Tmut/Pois      #.........   100%        3    ####...
 Ice Form                 Ice/Tmut       #.......     100%        4    #####..
 Blade Hands              Tmut           #.........   100%        5    ######.
 Animate Skeleton         Necr           Unusable     N/A         1    N/A
 Apportation              Tloc           Unusable     N/A         1    N/A
 Summon Small Mammal      Summ           Unusable     N/A         1    N/A
 Sticks to Snakes         Tmut           Unusable     N/A         2    N/A


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (10/15)            Temple (1/1) D:4            Lair (1/6) D:9
    Orc (0/2) D:10          Sewer (visited)         

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Wu Jian
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One

Shops:
D:5 =   D:7 *   D:9 [   D:10 !


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are hated by all.
You cannot study or cast Fire magic.
You cannot study or cast Necromancy magic.
You cannot study or cast Translocations magic.
You have somewhat slow reflexes. (EV -5)
You are slightly vulnerable to magic. (MR-)

Ziggurat Zagger

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Post Tuesday, 19th November 2019, 03:00

Re: Ru: Is max piety worth it?

yes

Snake Sneak

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Post Tuesday, 19th November 2019, 03:59

Re: Ru: Is max piety worth it?

duvessa wrote:yes

OK.Why?
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Zot Zealot

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Post Tuesday, 19th November 2019, 04:16

Re: Ru: Is max piety worth it?

Because the stronger abilities are worth it.

It's difficult to give a more precise answer, but sacrificing an eye in particular has pretty low impact for characters with good accuracy.

Snake Sneak

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Post Tuesday, 19th November 2019, 07:32

Re: Ru: Is max piety worth it?

Alright. In for a penny, in for an eye.

Shoals Surfer

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Post Tuesday, 19th November 2019, 16:03

Re: Ru: Is max piety worth it?

MrDizzy wrote:
duvessa wrote:yes

OK.Why?


Because the piety scale is not linear. Max piety is 160 (Ru only; for others it's 200). Five stars is 120-160. So you might be missing as much as a quarter of max piety (not a sixth, as one might assume), and, if those sacrifices aren't enough to bring you to six stars, then you are indeed on the low end of the five stars range. Mind you that eye the least valuable sacrifice of the three, so you 're probably still one low-mid tier sac away from max piety.

Abyss Ambulator

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Post Wednesday, 20th November 2019, 09:55

Re: Ru: Is max piety worth it?

To give a bit more context. The actives of Ru are nice, but the strongest power is probably that Ru effectively slows all enemies due to the aura of power (faltering and redirect). This effect scales linearly with piety. As mentioned above, the difference between 120 and 160 could be quite big as far as this effect is concerned.

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