Growing from mid game to late game as a newbie caster

Friday, 10th May 2019, 12:47 by Boartato

I've been struggling a lot with skill training order and spell choices. I'm just finishing Orc, lair is clear. I'm feeling pretty comfortable so far, although this is the extent of my recent experience so surely I'm going to mess up somewhere soon. Equipment wise I haven't had much luck, but I seem to be finding every spell under the sun so I've got that going for me.

From a strategic point what would you suggest? I know that if I play carefully I can reliably get to this spot once I figure stuff out but everything past here as a caster is completely out of my depth (I have a single 3 rune win as a melee for reference, ages ago). Are there any spells that are must haves from my list, or in general that I should look for? I know haste is probably up there but haven't managed to find it yet. Oop, haste has been removed since I last played. Also what should I be prioritizing, or should I have prioritized, skill wise?

Edit: One other thing I forgot. I've been to roughly this spot before. Although my spells are strong, the hunger from them is insane. But I feel like power dumping into spellcasting might hurt the arms race I have with delving deeper into the dungeon/working on hp/dodge. Do I just need to suffer through it for a bit or?

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.23.2-1-ga50397a (webtiles) character file. Boartato the Devastator (Human Conjurer) Turns: 33819, Time: 03:33:54 Health: 121/121 AC: 12 Str: 9 XL: 16 Next: 36% Magic: 46/46 EV: 15 Int: 23 God: Vehumet [*****.] Gold: 1511 SH: 0 Dex: 13 Spells: 3/38 levels left rFire + . . SeeInvis + F - staff of power rCold . . . Gourm . (no shield) rNeg . . . Faith . H - +2 robe {Archmagi} rPois . Spirit . S - +2 helmet {SInv} rElec . Reflect . A - +1 cloak rCorr . Harm . (no gloves) MR ++... E - +2 pair of boots Stlth ++........ B - amulet of regeneration HPRegen 0.70/turn u - ring of protection from fire MPRegen 0.30/turn C - ring of protection from magic @: lightly drained A: no striking features a: Renounce Religion You are on level 2 of the Orcish Mines. You worship Vehumet. Vehumet is extremely pleased with you. You are not hungry. You have visited 4 branches of the dungeon, and seen 23 of its levels. You have also visited: Ice Cave. You have collected 2371 gold pieces. You have spent 860 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand Weapons i - a +4 dagger of flaming k - the +2 whip "Qubopymo" {flame, Dex+6} (You found it in an ice cave) It has been specially enchanted to burn those struck by it, causing extra injury to most foes and up to half again as much damage against particularly susceptible opponents. It affects your dexterity (+6). N - the +9 staff of Olgreb {rPois} (You took it off an orc on level 8 of the Dungeon) It protects you from poison. O - the +5 morningstar of Ru's Favour {crush, rElec} (You found it on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts) It inflicts extra damage upon your enemies. It insulates you from electricity. Armour A - a +1 cloak (worn) E - a +2 pair of boots (worn) H - a +2 robe of the Archmagi (worn) S - a +2 helmet of see invisible (worn) Y - +0 fire dragon scales Magical Staves t - an uncursed staff of death F - an uncursed staff of power (weapon) Jewellery e - an uncursed ring of protection from cold s - an uncursed ring of resist corrosion u - a ring of protection from fire (left hand) w - a +5 ring of strength y - an uncursed ring of protection from cold B - an amulet of regeneration (around neck) C - a ring of protection from magic (right hand) I - an uncursed ring of positive energy R - a twisted golden ring X - the ring of Democracy {+Fly Int+2} (You found it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts) [ring of flight] It affects your intelligence (+2). It lets you fly. Wands l - a wand of iceblast (8) m - a wand of random effects (35) D - a wand of polymorph (11) M - a wand of acid (8) U - a wand of clouds (4) Scrolls a - 13 scrolls of identify p - 6 scrolls of teleportation q - 7 scrolls of remove curse G - 4 scrolls of fear L - a scroll of vulnerability P - 8 scrolls of enchant weapon Q - 5 scrolls of magic mapping T - a scroll of blinking Potions b - 5 potions of lignification d - a potion of resistance f - a potion of magic h - 10 potions of curing j - 2 potions of flight n - 5 potions of mutation o - 4 potions of brilliance v - a potion of haste z - 5 potions of heal wounds J - 3 potions of cancellation K - 2 potions of agility V - a potion of invisibility Z - a potion of ambrosia Miscellaneous g - a lamp of fire r - a fan of gales W - a crystal ball of energy Comestibles c - 43 rations x - 3 chunks of flesh Skills: + Level 9.7(9.2) Fighting * Level 7.1(6.6) Dodging - Level 2.0(1.6) Stealth + Level 11.6(11.1) Spellcasting * Level 16.5(15.9) Conjurations - Level 6.4(6.0) Hexes - Level 9.7(9.2) Summonings - Level 6.6(6.1) Translocations - Level 5.9(5.4) Fire Magic You have 3 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Orb of Destruction Conj #######... 1% 7 ####### b - Dazzling Spray Conj/Hex ###### 1% 3 None c - Searing Ray Conj ###### 0% 2 None d - Spellforged Servitor Conj/Summ #######... 7% 7 ####### e - Fulminant Prism Conj/Hex #######... 1% 4 None f - Force Lance Conj/Tloc #######. 1% 4 None g - Blink Tloc N/A 1% 2 None h - Bolt of Fire Conj/Fire #######... 2% 6 #####.. Your spell library contains the following spells: Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger Bolt of Draining Conj/Necr ######.... 1% 5 ####... Magic Dart Conj #### 0% 1 None Corona Hex ######. 1% 1 None Flame Tongue Conj/Fire ##### 1% 1 None Freeze Ice ###. 1% 1 None Call Imp Summ ######.. 1% 2 None Slow Hex ######.. 1% 2 None Throw Flame Conj/Fire ###### 1% 2 None Throw Frost Conj/Ice ###### 1% 2 None Confuse Hex ######.. 1% 3 None Conjure Flame Conj/Fire #######. 1% 3 None Ignite Poison Fire/Tmut/Pois ####.... 1% 3 None Inner Flame Hex/Fire ######.. 1% 3 None Mephitic Cloud Conj/Pois/Air ######.. 1% 3 None Portal Projectile Hex/Tloc ###### 1% 3 None Tukima's Dance Hex ######.. 1% 3 None Ensorcelled Hibernation Hex/Ice #####. 2% 2 None Animate Skeleton Necr N/A 4% 1 None Pain Necr ###. 4% 1 None Ozocubu's Armour Chrm/Ice ###..... 16% 3 None Regeneration Chrm/Necr ###....... 16% 3 None Vampiric Draining Necr ###....... 16% 3 None Iskenderun's Mystic Bla Conj #######. 1% 4 None Sticky Flame Conj/Fire #######. 1% 4 None Throw Icicle Conj/Ice ######.. 1% 4 None Fireball Conj/Fire #######... 1% 5 ####... Iskenderun's Battlesphe Conj/Chrm ######.. 1% 5 ####... Venom Bolt Conj/Pois ######.... 1% 5 ####... Bolt of Magma Conj/Fire/Erth ######.... 2% 5 ####... Cause Fear Hex ######.... 4% 4 None Summon Ice Beast Ice/Summ ######.. 8% 4 None Summon Lightning Spire Summ/Air ######.. 8% 4 None Bolt of Cold Conj/Ice ######.... 8% 6 #####.. Conjure Ball Lightning Conj/Air ######.... 8% 6 #####.. Iron Shot Conj/Erth ######.... 8% 6 #####.. Leda's Liquefaction Hex/Erth #####..... 14% 4 None Freezing Cloud Conj/Ice/Air ######.... 22% 6 #####.. Metabolic Englaciation Hex/Ice #####..... 38% 5 ####... Silence Hex/Air #####..... 38% 5 ####... Animate Dead Necr N/A 45% 4 None Ice Form Ice/Tmut ###..... 45% 4 None Ozocubu's Refrigeration Ice ###....... 86% 6 #####.. Deflect Missiles Chrm/Air ###....... 100% 6 #####.. Simulacrum Ice/Necr ###....... 100% 6 #####.. Ring of Flames Chrm/Fire #####..... 100% 7 ####### Ignition Fire ######.... 100% 8 ####### Tornado Air ###....... 100% 9 ####### Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (14/15) Temple (1/1) D:7 Lair (6/6) D:9 Swamp (0/4) Lair:3 Snake (0/4) Lair:3 Slime (0/5) Lair:6 Orc (2/2) D:11 Elf (0/3) Orc:2 Vaults (0/5) D:14 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Elyvilon Fedhas Gozag Hepliaklqana Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Qazlal Ru Trog Uskayaw Vehumet Wu Jian Xom Yredelemnul Zin The Shining One Shops: D:4 ! D:8 : D:9 [ D:10 ! D:13 ! Annotations: D:12 exclusion: redback Message History x - 4 chunks of flesh (gained 1) x - 5 chunks of flesh (gained 1) Things that are here: a +0 ring mail of cold resistance; a +0 short sword You now have 1499 gold pieces (gained 12). Things that are here: a +0 chain mail; a +0 long sword Some of the chunks of flesh in your inventory have rotted away. Casting: Orb of Destruction (safe; 1% risk of failure) Confirm with . or Enter, or press ? or * to list all spells. Okay, then. Unknown command. Things that are here: a +1 chain mail of poison resistance; a +0 hand axe You now have 1511 gold pieces (gained 12). Things that are here: a +0 flail; an orc skeleton Things that are here: a +1 chain mail of poison resistance; a +0 hand axe Char dumped successfully. #...[.#........#....... ##...(####......o....#.. ##....[..#....[..#...(# . #...(.$.###........#.## ......##.(.[..###........## #######....(..#.......#...# ##..(()[.[...#####... #.#...).....## ... ###[.[@<.....# ##..[......## #...[.......## ###.[[.........# ##.#..........#### ##...)..........#.# # #....[##'##.#....##.# #.#...#..)#.##......# #.#...#)8.#.......#.# There are no monsters in sight! Vanquished Creatures A frost giant (IceCv) 8 hydras 2 death knights A centaur warrior (D:14) 5 two-headed ogres A death yak (IceCv) 2 skeletal warriors (D:14) A deep elf archer (D:14) A lindwurm (Lair:6) An orc knight (Orc:2) Pikel (D:7) 8 deep elf magi An ugly thing (D:6) 4 cyclopes A manticore (D:7) 3 oklob plants (Lair:1) 25 elephants Maurice (D:13) 6 black mambas Joseph (D:7) An ice statue (IceCv) 6 spiny frogs 3 molten gargoyles (Lair:6) A gargoyle (D:10) 4 rime drakes 6 kobold demonologists 4 komodo dragons 2 centaur skeletons (D:14) An efreet (D:13) 2 freezing wraiths A tengu conjurer (D:14) A queen bee (Lair:1) 13 polar bears (IceCv) 2 trolls Prince Ribbit (D:7) 2 hornets Grinder (D:5) 8 blink frogs 7 hippogriffs 10 slime creatures 9 dream sheep (Lair:6) 2 spriggans 7 wyverns 53 yaks 2 basilisks (Lair:6) 2 wraiths (D:11) A redback (shapeshifter) (D:12) 3 hungry ghosts Grum (D:9) 2 wargs 2 acid dragons 10 water moccasins 8 porcupines 15 orc warriors 4 black bears 3 hell hounds (Lair:6) 5 sky beasts 2 phantoms 3 slaves (D:7) A necrophage (D:11) 2 ice beasts 18 ogres An eye of draining (D:7) 20 wolves 12 crocodiles 15 centaurs 6 big kobolds 15 bullfrogs 2 gnoll sergeants (D:6) A water moccasin skeleton (D:6) 22 killer bees 6 scorpions 8 wights An electric eel (Lair:6) 7 crimson imps 5 lava snakes (Lair:6) 3 bullfrog zombies 9 jellies 2 centaur zombies 3 hounds 29 orc wizards 15 orc priests An iguana (D:6) 13 worker ants A hound zombie (D:5) A howler monkey zombie (D:10) A howler monkey skeleton (D:11) 21 gnolls 15 adders A shadow imp (D:10) 2 oozes An adder zombie (D:9) 2 adder skeletons (D:4) A worm (D:3) 3 dart slugs 4 leopard geckos 87 orcs 7 giant cockroaches 7 goblins 9 hobgoblins 8 jackals 24 kobolds 4 quokkas 3 ball pythons 7 bats 5 frilled lizards A leopard gecko zombie (D:8) A quokka zombie (D:8) 4 rats 3 fungi 6 plants 730 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) Frances (D:13) A dire elephant (Lair:3) The ghost of WaifuGate the Severer, a journeyman OgFi of Okawaru (D:11) A fire dragon (Lair:6) An ogre mage (D:14) 3 death yaks (Lair:6) A skeletal warrior (D:14) 3 deep elf magi (Orc:2) 5 elephants 2 centaur skeletons (D:14) A komodo dragon (Lair:6) 2 slime creatures (D:13) 2 basilisks A soldier ant (D:13) A porcupine (Lair:1) 5 orc warriors (Orc:2) A black bear (D:13) An ogre (D:14) 2 wolves A crocodile (Lair:6) An orc wizard (D:13) An orc priest (D:13) 2 worker ants (Lair:6) 7 orcs 47 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A deep elf mage (D:14) A hippogriff (D:13) A yak (Lair:4) A slave (D:7) An adder (D:11) 5 orcs (D:11) 264 fulminant prisms 31 fungi 6 plants 2 withered plants (D:11) 313 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 1090 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------+----------+------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Boartato the Human Conjurer began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 13/13 MP: 3/3 293 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 11/19 MP: 1/5 1058 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 24/24 MP: 2/6 1582 | D:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations 1582 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 19/30 MP: 0/8 2479 | D:2 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 19/35 MP: 0/9 2900 | D:3 | Noticed an ogre 2914 | D:2 | Learned a level 3 spell: Dazzling Spray 2917 | D:2 | Learned a level 2 spell: Searing Ray 2948 | D:3 | Killed an ogre 2948 | D:3 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 36/42 MP: 1/11 2956 | D:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting 2984 | D:3 | Reached skill level 6 in Conjurations 3094 | D:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Hexes 3738 | D:3 | Found an opulent altar of Gozag. 4276 | D:3 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 48/49 MP: 1/12 4374 | D:3 | Learned a level 4 spell: Iskenderun's Mystic Blast 4963 | D:4 | Found Wutros's Distillery. 5018 | D:4 | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 50 gold pieces 5018 | D:4 | Bought a potion of degeneration for 10 gold pieces 5887 | D:4 | Learned a level 4 spell: Fulminant Prism 5888 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 5898 | D:5 | Reached skill level 7 in Conjurations 6003 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 52/57 MP: 5/14 6119 | D:5 | Noticed Grinder 6120 | D:5 | Paralysed by Grinder for 2 turns 6253 | D:5 | Killed Grinder 6977 | D:5 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 63/65 MP: 8/16 7042 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Hexes 7065 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting 7969 | D:6 | Reached skill level 8 in Conjurations 9076 | D:6 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru. 9182 | D:6 | Noticed a green ugly thing 9198 | D:6 | Noticed a troll 9207 | D:6 | Killed a troll 9207 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 9209 | D:6 | Identified the cursed +2 trident "Virerosch" {pain, rF+ | Dex+2} 9301 | D:6 | Learned a level 4 spell: Force Lance 9320 | D:6 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 74/74 MP: 15/18 9351 | D:6 | Killed a green ugly thing 9891 | D:7 | Noticed Pikel 9899 | D:7 | Killed Pikel 10199 | D:7 | Noticed Joseph 10207 | D:7 | Killed Joseph 10207 | D:7 | Reached skill level 5 in Translocations 10422 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 10442 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 10477 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Vehumet 10620 | D:7 | Noticed a manticore 10625 | D:7 | Killed a manticore 10625 | D:7 | Reached skill level 9 in Conjurations 10786 | D:7 | Noticed Prince Ribbit 10790 | D:7 | Killed Prince Ribbit 10790 | D:7 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 83/83 MP: 17/21 11695 | D:8 | Reached * piety under Vehumet 11695 | D:8 | Offered knowledge of Sandblast by Vehumet. 11932 | D:8 | Found Eho Osiffe's Book Shoppe. 12126 | D:8 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One. 12215 | D:8 | Noticed a two-headed ogre 12230 | D:8 | Killed a two-headed ogre 12230 | D:8 | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations 12892 | D:9 | Noticed Grum 12898 | D:9 | Killed Grum 13367 | D:9 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 13499 | D:9 | Found Xaall's Antique Armour Boutique. 13507 | D:9 | Offered knowledge of Sting by Vehumet. 13649 | D:8 | Bought a book of Power for 630 gold pieces 13714 | D:9 | Reached ** piety under Vehumet 14074 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 14216 | D:10 | Reached skill level 11 in Conjurations 14334 | D:10 | Learned a level 7 spell: Orb of Destruction 14400 | D:10 | Noticed a two-headed ogre 14404 | D:10 | Killed a two-headed ogre 14404 | D:10 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 91/91 MP: 21/23 14467 | D:10 | Reached skill level 12 in Conjurations 14649 | D:10 | Noticed a two-headed ogre 14681 | D:10 | Killed a two-headed ogre 14681 | D:10 | Offered knowledge of Mephitic Cloud by Vehumet. 15204 | D:10 | Found Otom's Distillery. 15247 | D:11 | Found a hazy altar of Hepliaklqana. 15303 | D:11 | Reached *** piety under Vehumet 15499 | D:11 | Offered knowledge of Olgreb's Toxic Radiance by Vehumet. 15526 | D:11 | Found a runed translucent door. 15526 | D:11 | Noticed WaifuGate's ghost (journeyman OgFi) 15610 | D:11 | Reached skill level 13 in Conjurations 15661 | D:11 | You fall through a shaft for 3 floors! 15880 | D:14 | Noticed a two-headed ogre 15888 | D:14 | Killed a two-headed ogre 16101 | D:14 | Noticed a four-headed hydra 16107 | D:14 | Killed a four-headed hydra 16329 | D:14 | Reached skill level 14 in Conjurations 16557 | D:14 | Noticed a death knight 16558 | D:14 | Noticed a skeletal warrior 16559 | D:14 | Noticed a skeletal warrior 16584 | D:14 | Reached **** piety under Vehumet 16646 | D:14 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 96/97 MP: 18/24 16657 | D:14 | Learned a level 7 spell: Spellforged Servitor 16743 | D:14 | Offered knowledge of Lee's Rapid Deconstruction by Vehumet. 16743 | D:14 | Reached skill level 1 in Summonings 17183 | D:14 | Reached skill level 5 in Summonings 17771 | D:14 | Noticed a centaur warrior 17778 | D:14 | Killed a centaur warrior 18016 | D:14 | Found a gate to the Vaults. 18103 | D:13 | Noticed Frances 18303 | D:13 | Found Varoext's Distillery. 18312 | D:13 | Bought a potion of haste for 170 gold pieces 18592 | D:13 | Noticed a five-headed hydra 18596 | D:13 | Killed a five-headed hydra 18622 | D:13 | Killed Frances 18664 | D:13 | Reached ***** piety under Vehumet 18852 | D:13 | Noticed Maurice 18876 | D:13 | Killed Maurice 18919 | D:13 | Offered knowledge of Freezing Cloud by Vehumet. 18919 | D:13 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 81/103 MP: 22/26 20685 | D:11 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 20772 | D:11 | Killed WaifuGate's ghost 21008 | D:9 | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink 21009 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 22078 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 15 in Conjurations 22714 | Lair:2 | Offered knowledge of Conjure Ball Lightning by Vehumet. 22795 | Lair:2 | Got a pitted ivory ring 22978 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting 23622 | Lair:2 | Identified the ring of Democracy {+Fly Int+2} (You found it | on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts) 24559 | Lair:3 | Noticed a dire elephant 24563 | Lair:3 | Killed a dire elephant 25188 | Lair:3 | Found a hide-covered altar of Uskayaw. 25301 | Lair:3 | Found a staircase to the Swamp. 25414 | Lair:3 | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit. 25930 | Lair:4 | Found a frozen archway. 25941 | IceCv | Entered an ice cave 25958 | IceCv | Reached XP level 15. HP: 112/112 MP: 29/29 26964 | IceCv | Offered knowledge of Bolt of Cold by Vehumet. 27009 | IceCv | Learned a level 6 spell: Bolt of Fire 27072 | IceCv | Reached skill level 1 in Fire Magic 27275 | IceCv | Noticed a frost giant 27283 | IceCv | Killed a frost giant 27307 | IceCv | Got a slimy whip 28879 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Fire Magic 29080 | Lair:5 | Got a polished morningstar 29119 | Lair:5 | Identified the +2 whip "Qubopymo" {flame, Dex+6} (You found | it in an ice cave) 29120 | Lair:5 | Identified the +5 morningstar of Ru's Favour {crush, rElec} | (You found it on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts) 29920 | Lair:6 | Entered Level 6 of the Lair of Beasts 29930 | Lair:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 29930 | Lair:6 | Reached skill level 16 in Conjurations 30448 | Lair:6 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits. 31092 | Lair:6 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 104/120 MP: 22/31 31935 | Lair:6 | Found a large runed translucent door. 31935 | Lair:6 | Found a large runed translucent door. 32453 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines 32692 | Orc:2 | Entered Level 2 of the Orcish Mines 32692 | Orc:2 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls. 33224 | Orc:2 | Offered knowledge of Bolt of Draining by Vehumet. Skill XL: | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 | ---------------+-------------------------------------------------+----- Conjurations | 5 6 7 8 9 11 14 15 16 | 16.5 Spellcasting | 3 4 5 7 8 10 11 | 11.6 Fighting | 1 2 3 5 6 7 8 9 | 9.7 Hexes | 1 2 4 6 | 6.4 Translocations | 5 6 | 6.6 Summonings | 9 | 9.7 Fire Magic | 5 | 5.9 Dodging | 5 7 | 7.1 Stealth | | 2.0 Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Unarmed | 5 | | | | | || 5 Short sword | 20 | 58 | | | | || 78 Dagger | | | 46 | | | || 46 Staff | | | 1 | 2 | 9 | 4 || 16 Cast: Magic Dart | 49 | 87 | 87 | 32 | | || 255 Dazzling Spray | | 4 | 25 | 21 | 5 | || 55 Searing Ray | | 12 | 50 | 5 | 2 | || 69 Iskenderun's Myst | | | 5 | 104 | 1 | || 110 Fulminant Prism | | | 10 | 76 | 170 | 8 || 264 Force Lance | | | | 95 | 355 | 106 || 556 Orb of Destructio | | | | 1 | 32 | 9 || 42 Spellforged Servi | | | | | 15 | 7 || 22 Blink | | | | | 1 | 2 || 3 Bolt of Fire | | | | | 15 | 8 || 23 Use: Scroll | | 12 | 8 | 6 | 22 | || 48 Potion | | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | || 6 Stab: Sleeping | 2 | 2 | | | | || 4 Invisible | | 1 | 2 | | | || 3 Eat: Chunk | 2 | 10 | 17 | 45 | 57 | 16 || 147 Ration | | | 1 | 2 | 9 | 1 || 13 Armor: Robe | 6 | | 1 | 33 | 64 | 1 || 105 Leather armour | 7 | 36 | 30 | | | || 73 Skin | | | 4 | | | || 4 Dodge: Dodged | 26 | 87 | 75 | 55 | 112 | 21 || 376

Friday, 10th May 2019, 13:05 by petercordia

Your skilling looks good. If you play carefully enough your current spells can carry you until you get a level 9 spell online.
You can afford to wait to see what Vehm gives you before deciding which spell to train for next.
I would train shields to 15, evo to 10, stealth to 10, and some other defensive skills, then train for some more spells.

Friday, 10th May 2019, 13:25 by Boartato

petercordia wrote:Your skilling looks good. If you play carefully enough your current spells can carry you until you get a level 9 spell online.
You can afford to wait to see what Vehm gives you before deciding which spell to train for next.
I would train shields to 15, evo to 10, stealth to 10, and some other defensive skills, then train for some more spells.

Evokables being in vogue is kinda new for me, and/or I was dumb and ignored it before. Which ones are important, I've dropped a fair few.

Friday, 10th May 2019, 14:03 by sanka

Boartato wrote:Equipment wise I haven't had much luck
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H - +2 robe {Archmagi}

It is actually a very good robe for you. Also identify the last ring.

Boartato wrote:Although my spells are strong, the hunger from them is insane. But I feel like power dumping into spellcasting might hurt the arms race I have with delving deeper into the dungeon/working on hp/dodge. Do I just need to suffer through it for a bit or?

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c - 43 rations x - 3 chunks of flesh

Don't you feel some contradiction here? 43 rations are a LOT. You do not need more spellcasting.

Boartato wrote: Skills:
+ Level 9.7(9.2) Fighting
* Level 7.1(6.6) Dodging
- Level 2.0(1.6) Stealth
+ Level 11.6(11.1) Spellcasting
* Level 16.5(15.9) Conjurations
- Level 6.4(6.0) Hexes
- Level 9.7(9.2) Summonings
- Level 6.6(6.1) Translocations
- Level 5.9(5.4) Fire Magic

Your dodging is very low, I would train only that for a while, at least around 15. Also a little bit of fighting. Your attack is strong enough for the whole game (it does not mean you cannot train it later, just that it's strong enough), but you need more defences right now. I personally do not like to train shields and stealth on a conjurer. I may wear a buckler and train shields just a very little bit, but 15 shields skill is expensive. (If I find a very good shield, like shield of resistance, and have no better idea, I may change my opinion, but a regular +0 shield does not worth that much XP. )

Orb of destruction is already at 1% -> I think you overtrained conjurations. Instead, I would train a little bit fire later to give bolt of fire some more power. Bolt of fire kills most enemies (all non fire-resistant/immune ones) in a normal game.

At this point I usually start to look for some decent melee option - it is not necesary, so it is up to you, but I really like to be able to tab trough popcorn. It also gives you some safety if you mismanage your mana or happen to fall in silence somewhere.

Boartato wrote:
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You have 3 spell levels left. You know the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Orb of Destruction Conj #######... 1% 7 ####### b - Dazzling Spray Conj/Hex ###### 1% 3 None c - Searing Ray Conj ###### 0% 2 None d - Spellforged Servitor Conj/Summ #######... 7% 7 ####### e - Fulminant Prism Conj/Hex #######... 1% 4 None f - Force Lance Conj/Tloc #######. 1% 4 None g - Blink Tloc N/A 1% 2 None h - Bolt of Fire Conj/Fire #######... 2% 6 #####..

If you want to use servitor, you should forget force lance and dazzling spray. The servitor chooses spells randomly, and you do not want her to cast useless spells. I think it cannot cast Searing Ray, but you may forget that one as well, it is not very useful anymore.

About learning spells: you have a lot of options. From support spells I would learn regeneration and later deflect missiles. While skeletons and Ozo's armour are useful, I do not like to actually use them, so I usually simply skip them.

Attack spells: you do not really *need* anything else. But of course some may make your life easier.

Conjure flame is good all game.
A spell that is not Orb of destruction and does not check EV is useful in my experience. Sticky flame is not good with servitor, so Fireball and Freezing cloud are the two best targets. While Freezing cloud is stronger, but Fireball has more synergy with Bolt of fire, your main attack spell. Also, freezing cloud tends not to be very good with a servitor, but I am unsure if the servitor can hit you with a fireball as well. (Conjure ball lightning is also a very strong spell, but fiddly to use and very bad with a servitor.)

I would learn Iron shot. With a little bit of earth training (or quaffing a potion of brilliance) you would have your answer for fire immune enemies that stand right next to you. Iron shot is good for a servitor.

You could go for a level 9th spell later if you wish. It is not necessary. The difference is that you will be weaker for a while (you will have lower defenses and maybe not as strong melee), but once it is online the game would be easier.

Friday, 10th May 2019, 14:52 by Boartato

I ended up looting a reflection buckler, so figured at least some investment into shields was good. When I did the majority of my playing, food and starving to death was a very big concern even for melee characters. Not saving a heap of rations basically denied you access to some branches without food, so the idea of spending 1 ration every other fight (I get maybe 4-5 casts of OoD or firebolt before I need to eat) leaves me very uncomfortable but ok. The major reason why I'm still packing useless spells is that I've found a whopping 2 amnesia scrolls all game.

So far I've been using force and dazzling spray to deal with CQC enemies, but I can see their damage dropping off heavily. I'll look into iron shot and pumping dodge.

Friday, 10th May 2019, 19:51 by petercordia

Don't be afraid to use OoD on adjacent enemies. It deals half damage, but that is still a lot. Even when I have iron shot I sometimes use OoD on adjacent enemies because it can't miss.

Wrt food, I recall hovering around 20 reasons recently, and that was slightly scary. If you get really scared you can try to acquire a wand of energy. If you're slightly worried just train spellcasting, use melee and weak spells for popcorn, etcetera. If you get a medium shield you can melee many enemies even just wearing a robe and without training a weapon skill. (Only 1-on-1 though.) Maybe dodging allows the same.

Evokations is good for quality of life. Want to go up some stairs? Use the fan of gales. Want to deal a little more burst damage without spending mana? Use a vial of floods/wand of acid. Want to kill something slightly out of league? Use a crystal sphere. Want some strength-independent melee damage? Use an enhancer stave, eg staff of fire. Want to quickly and reliably get mana? Use a staff of energy. You get the picture.
You're actually carrying 2 evokables you can't reasonably use right now: the wand of random effects, which is bad, and the crystal sphere, which you can't use at 0 skill. It needs at least 10 skill to be worth using imo.

Saturday, 11th May 2019, 15:22 by Boartato

Well I effectively died due to starvation. in zot 3/5. I had to limit the use of my big spells so much due to having 3 rations (and still burning 1 every other fight if I used my spells freely) left that I couldn't really fight properly and eventually got overwhelmed taking risks I was getting forced into.

Not sure where I went wrong. Even my "small" spells like iron shot were costing me ### for hunger. Did I overtrain my defenses/melee and not dip back into spellcasting early enough? I was trying to get firestorm online since I felt comfortable defenses wise, but I realized there was no way that was gonna work and dipped into deflect arrows (another skilling mistake imo).

Code:: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.23.2-1-ga50397a (webtiles) character file. Game seed: 17188707514696082744 585910 Boartato the Warrior (level 27, -2/222 HPs) Began as a Human Conjurer on May 9, 2019. Was the Champion of Vehumet. Killed from afar by a green draconian scorcher (23 damage) ... with damnation ... on level 2 of the Realm of Zot on May 11, 2019. The game lasted 11:30:41 (96029 turns). Boartato the Warrior (Human Conjurer) Turns: 96029, Time: 11:30:42 Health: -2/222 AC: 24 Str: 14 XL: 27 Magic: 21/52 EV: 23 Int: 26 God: Vehumet [******] Gold: 2127 SH: 10 Dex: 14 Spells: 3/59 levels left rFire . . . SeeInvis + O - +5 morningstar of Ru's Favour {crush, rElec} rCold + . . Gourm . x - +3 warlock's mirror {reflect} rNeg . . . Faith . s - +6 faerie dragon scales {rCorr Str+3} rPois . Spirit . S - +2 helmet {SInv} rElec + Reflect + B - +2 cloak of Hysteria {Regen+ rCorr MP+9} rCorr + Harm . L - +2 pair of gloves MR +++.. E - +2 pair of boots Stlth ++++...... F - amulet of magic regeneration HPRegen 0.87/turn C - ring of protection from magic MPRegen 0.58/turn e - ring of protection from cold @: slowed, very slow A: screaming 1 }: 3/15 runes: decaying, serpentine, slimy a: Renounce Religion You were on level 2 of the Realm of Zot. You worshipped Vehumet. Vehumet was exalted by your worship. You were not hungry. You visited 11 branches of the dungeon, and saw 52 of its levels. You visited 1 bazaar. You also visited: Ice Cave. You collected 7904 gold pieces. You spent 5777 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand Weapons k - the +2 whip "Qubopymo" {flame, Dex+6} (You found it in an ice cave) It has been specially enchanted to burn those struck by it, causing extra injury to most foes and up to half again as much damage against particularly susceptible opponents. It affects your dexterity (+6). N - the +9 staff of Olgreb {rPois} (You took it off an orc on level 8 of the Dungeon) It protects you from poison. O - the +5 morningstar of Ru's Favour (weapon) {crush, rElec} (You found it on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts) It inflicts extra damage upon your enemies. It insulates you from electricity. V - the +6 mace "Poghuq" {crush, rN+} (You bought it in a shop in a bazaar) It inflicts extra damage upon your enemies. It protects you from negative energy. Armour s - the +6 faerie dragon scales (worn) {rCorr Str+3} (You took it off the Enchantress on level 2 of the Depths) It affects your strength (+3). It provides partial protection from all sources of acid and corrosion. x - the +3 warlock's mirror (worn) {reflect} (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines) B - the +2 cloak of Hysteria (worn) {Regen+ rCorr MP+9} (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls) It affects your magic capacity (+9). It increases your rate of regeneration. It provides partial protection from all sources of acid and corrosion. E - a +2 pair of boots (worn) L - a +2 pair of gloves (worn) S - a +2 helmet of see invisible (worn) Magical Staves A - an uncursed staff of fire Jewellery e - a ring of protection from cold (right hand) f - an uncursed ring of protection from fire w - an uncursed ring of poison resistance C - a ring of protection from magic (left hand) F - an amulet of magic regeneration (around neck) I - an uncursed ring of positive energy P - a +4 amulet of reflection X - the ring of Democracy {+Fly Int+2} (You found it on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts) [ring of flight] It affects your intelligence (+2). It lets you fly. Wands y - a wand of flame (30) D - a wand of digging (5) M - a wand of acid (21) U - a wand of clouds (4) W - a wand of disintegration (10) Scrolls a - 27 scrolls of identify b - a scroll of summoning g - 5 scrolls of enchant weapon i - 2 scrolls of silence m - a scroll of fog p - 17 scrolls of teleportation q - 27 scrolls of remove curse t - 4 scrolls of holy word z - a scroll of blinking G - a scroll of fear H - 4 scrolls of amnesia Q - 2 scrolls of magic mapping T - a scroll of acquirement Potions d - 2 potions of haste h - 12 potions of curing j - 7 potions of flight l - 2 potions of magic n - 11 potions of mutation o - 13 potions of brilliance r - 2 potions of heal wounds v - 4 potions of invisibility J - 7 potions of cancellation R - 7 potions of agility Y - a potion of berserk rage Z - a potion of ambrosia Miscellaneous u - a crystal ball of energy K - a crystal ball of energy Comestibles c - 3 rations Skills: - Level 19.3 Fighting - Level 12.7 Maces & Flails - Level 18.3 Dodging - Level 8.3 Stealth - Level 13.8 Shields + Level 16.9 Spellcasting - Level 17.4 Conjurations - Level 6.4 Hexes - Level 8.0 Charms - Level 9.7 Summonings - Level 6.6 Translocations - Level 11.5 Fire Magic - Level 8.0 Air Magic - Level 3.0 Earth Magic - Level 9.1 Evocations You had 3 spell levels left. You knew the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Orb of Destruction Conj #######... 1% 7 #####.. b - Fire Storm Conj/Fire #######... 88% 9 ####### c - Iron Shot Conj/Erth ######.... 2% 6 ###.... d - Spellforged Servitor Conj/Summ #######... 3% 7 #####.. e - Fulminant Prism Conj/Hex ######.... 1% 4 None f - Force Lance Conj/Tloc ######.. 1% 4 None g - Blink Tloc N/A 1% 2 None h - Bolt of Fire Conj/Fire #######... 1% 6 ###.... i - Fireball Conj/Fire #######... 1% 5 None j - Deflect Missiles Chrm/Air ######.... 19% 6 ###.... Your spell library contained the following spells: Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger Chain Lightning Conj/Air ######.... 28% 8 ######. Shatter Erth #####..... 100% 9 ####### Flame Tongue Conj/Fire ##### 0% 1 None Magic Dart Conj #### 0% 1 None Searing Ray Conj ###### 0% 2 None Throw Flame Conj/Fire ###### 0% 2 None Apportation Tloc ###### 1% 1 None Confusing Touch Hex ###### 1% 1 None Corona Hex ######. 1% 1 None Freeze Ice ###. 1% 1 None Sandblast Erth #####. 1% 1 None Summon Small Mammal Summ #### 1% 1 None Call Imp Summ ######.. 1% 2 None Ensorcelled Hibernation Hex/Ice #####. 1% 2 None Shroud of Golubria Chrm/Tloc ######.... 1% 2 None Slow Hex ######.. 1% 2 None Throw Frost Conj/Ice ###### 1% 2 None Confuse Hex ######.. 1% 3 None Conjure Flame Conj/Fire #######. 1% 3 None Dazzling Spray Conj/Hex ###### 1% 3 None Gell's Gravitas Tloc ######.... 1% 3 None Ignite Poison Fire/Tmut/Pois #####... 1% 3 None Inner Flame Hex/Fire ######.. 1% 3 None Lesser Beckoning Tloc ######.... 1% 3 None Mephitic Cloud Conj/Pois/Air ######.. 1% 3 None Ozocubu's Armour Chrm/Ice #####... 1% 3 None Portal Projectile Hex/Tloc ###### 1% 3 None Regeneration Chrm/Necr #####..... 1% 3 None Spectral Weapon Hex/Chrm ######.. 1% 3 None Static Discharge Conj/Air ######.. 1% 3 None Stone Arrow Conj/Erth ###### 1% 3 None Teleport Other Tloc ######.. 1% 3 None Tukima's Dance Hex ######.. 1% 3 None Passwall Tmut/Erth ####.... 2% 2 None Animate Skeleton Necr N/A 3% 1 None Beastly Appendage Tmut ###... 3% 1 None Pain Necr ###. 3% 1 None Corpse Rot Necr N/A 4% 2 None Sticks to Snakes Tmut ###..... 4% 2 None Sublimation of Blood Necr ###....... 4% 2 None Spider Form Tmut/Pois ###....... 10% 3 None Vampiric Draining Necr ###....... 10% 3 None Iskenderun's Mystic Bla Conj #######. 1% 4 None Sticky Flame Conj/Fire #######. 1% 4 None Summon Lightning Spire Summ/Air ######.. 1% 4 None Throw Icicle Conj/Ice ######.. 1% 4 None Bolt of Draining Conj/Necr ######.... 1% 5 None Bolt of Magma Conj/Fire/Erth ######.... 1% 5 None Irradiate Conj/Tmut ######.... 1% 5 None Iskenderun's Battlesphe Conj/Chrm ######.. 1% 5 None Lightning Bolt Conj/Air ######.... 1% 5 None Venom Bolt Conj/Pois ######.... 1% 5 None Conjure Ball Lightning Conj/Air ######.... 1% 6 ###.... Cause Fear Hex ######.... 2% 4 None Passage of Golubria Tloc N/A 2% 4 None Leda's Liquefaction Hex/Erth #####..... 4% 4 None Summon Ice Beast Ice/Summ #####... 4% 4 None Silence Hex/Air ######.... 4% 5 None Bolt of Cold Conj/Ice ######.... 4% 6 ###.... Freezing Cloud Conj/Ice/Air ######.... 4% 6 ###.... Poison Arrow Conj/Pois ######.... 4% 6 ###.... Lee's Rapid Deconstruct Erth #####..... 7% 5 None Yara's Violent Unravell Hex/Tmut #####..... 7% 5 None Petrify Tmut/Erth ####.... 19% 4 None Excruciating Wounds Chrm/Necr #####..... 19% 5 None Metabolic Englaciation Hex/Ice #####..... 24% 5 None Animate Dead Necr N/A 32% 4 None Ice Form Ice/Tmut ###..... 32% 4 None Invisibility Hex ######.. 34% 6 ###.... Ignition Fire ######.... 41% 8 ######. Ring of Flames Chrm/Fire ######.... 45% 7 #####.. Lehudib's Crystal Spear Conj/Erth ######.... 58% 8 ######. Agony Necr ###..... 67% 5 None Alistair's Intoxication Tmut/Pois ###..... 67% 5 None Blade Hands Tmut ###....... 67% 5 None Dispel Undead Necr ###..... 67% 5 None Ozocubu's Refrigeration Ice ###....... 75% 6 ###.... Simulacrum Ice/Necr ###....... 99% 6 ###.... Discord Hex ######.... 100% 8 ######. Glaciate Conj/Ice ######.... 100% 9 ####### Tornado Air ######.... 100% 9 ####### Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (15/15) Temple (1/1) D:7 Lair (6/6) D:9 Swamp (4/4) Lair:3 Snake (4/4) Lair:3 Slime (5/5) Lair:6 Orc (2/2) D:11 Elf (3/3) Orc:2 Vaults (4/5) D:14 Crypt (0/3) Vaults:2 Depths (5/5) D:15 Zot (3/5) Depths:5 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Elyvilon Fedhas Gozag Hepliaklqana Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Okawaru Qazlal Ru Trog Uskayaw Vehumet Wu Jian Xom Yredelemnul Zin The Shining One Beogh Shops: D:4 ! D:8 : D:9 [ D:10 ! D:13 ! Orc:2 *}([ Elf:1 ( Elf:2 *=[: Snake:3 ( Depths:1 =}= Depths:5 * Portals: Hell: Depths:1 Depths:2 Depths:3 Depths:4 Depths:5 Abyss: Depths:1 Depths:4 Pandemonium: Depths:3* Ziggurat: Depths:5 Annotations: D:12 exclusion: redback D:15 exclusion: Roxanne, Roxanne Depths:4 3 runed translucent doors, Gietooco's ghost, veteran TrFi Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations You occasionally shout uncontrollably at your foes. Message History The searing blast misses you. The red draconian breathes flames at you. The searing blast misses you. You are engulfed in blazing flames. * * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * * You eat one of the 4 rations. That ration really hit the spot! Casting: Orb of Destruction (safe; 1% risk of failure) Confirm with . or Enter, or press ? or * to list all spells. You blink. You block the green draconian scorcher's attack. The green draconian scorcher tail-slaps you. * * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * * The red draconian closely misses you. The green draconian scorcher hits you with a +0 short sword. * * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * * The green draconian scorcher completely misses you. The red draconian completely misses you. The green draconian scorcher casts a spell at you. The sphere of damnation explodes! The damnation engulfs you!! You die... #.##......# #.#.......# ### #.........# ##.# ##........# #.##### #........# #.....###........# #####............# ##############......)...#..# ............X##.@.......#..# ############d.q.......>.#..# #.##..d.......%..#..# ###..###############..# ##...################..# ##.##.................[.# #.##...........[).......# ##..###################### ###..## You could see 2 draconians and a green draconian scorcher. Vanquished Creatures the Royal Jelly (Slime:5) Sojobo (Depths:1) A Killer Klown (Zot:2) Boris (Depths:3) 3 golden dragons (Zot:1) Nikola (Depths:1) the Enchantress (Depths:2) A Tzitzimitl (Depths:2) 3 electric golems 4 tentacled monstrosities 2 liches (Depths:4) 5 quicksilver dragons 2 deep elf blademasters (Elf:3) 4 deep elf master archers (Elf:3) 13 acid blobs 3 sphinxes 6 death cobs Kirke (Snake:1) 3 thorn hunters 2 tengu reavers (Depths:1) 4 storm dragons 4 draconian monks 4 shadow dragons 3 fire giants 5 azure jellies 7 nagarajas 7 frost giants 2 draconian scorchers (Zot:2) 2 deep elf sorcerers A draconian knight (Zot:1) 6 vault wardens An iron dragon (Depths:4) An orc warlord (Orc:2) A caustic shrike zombie (Depths:2) Louise (D:15) 5 spriggan defenders 3 draconian stormcallers 5 draconian shifters 3 draconian annihilators 3 deep elf elementalists (Elf:3) 15 ironheart preservers 15 stone giants 3 green draconians 25 very ugly things 6 black draconians 11 deep elf annihilators 4 white draconians 2 vampire knights 8 deep elf demonologists 8 yellow draconians 4 red draconians A spark wasp (Depths:4) 6 purple draconians An eidolon (Vaults:2) 10 ettins A green death (Swamp:4) 4 death oozes 10 deep elf death magi 3 jiangshi (Depths:3) 3 deep elf high priests 7 fire dragons 15 yaktaur captains 14 hydras 14 naga warriors 13 great orbs of eyes A vault guard (Vaults:3) A spectral tengu (Vaults:1) 14 ice dragons 4 rakshasas 7 shambling mangroves 7 spriggan air magi 3 death knights 14 ogre magi 13 anacondas 17 alligators 8 centaur warriors 7 tengu warriors 28 two-headed ogres 9 deep troll shamans A death yak (IceCv) 2 spectral humans (Vaults:1) 4 spriggan berserkers 26 dancing weapons 8 deep troll earth magi A hell hog (Depths:1) 3 vampire magi A thrashing horror (Swamp:4) A small abomination (Vaults:2) 10 shock serpents 2 soul eaters (Depths:2) 10 naga sharpshooters 22 deep elf knights 6 skeletal warriors 3 shadow wraiths 5 iron trolls 3 salamander mystics 5 hell knights (Vaults:3) 10 flayed ghosts A spectral anaconda (Depths:1) An unseen horror (Vaults:1) 12 deep elf archers 6 glowing orange brains 3 wizards 6 swamp dragons 16 deep trolls A lindwurm (Lair:6) 2 orange crystal statues (Depths:2) 6 phantasmal warriors 11 orc knights A spectral hydra (Depths:2) 7 naga ritualists Pikel (D:7) 7 ironbrand convokers 6 necromancers A human zombie (Vaults:3) 64 deep elf magi 8 mana vipers 3 shining eyes A wolf spider (Vaults:1) 37 ugly things 5 cyclopes A shadow dragon skeleton (Depths:2) 20 moths of wrath 10 salamanders 8 orc sorcerers 2 frost giant zombies (Depths:2) A manticore (D:7) A salamander (shapeshifter) (D:15) An iron dragon skeleton (Depths:2) A manticore (shapeshifter) (D:15) 3 oklob plants (Lair:1) 25 elephants Maurice (D:13) 15 vault sentinels 36 black mambas Joseph (D:7) 2 guardian serpents An ice statue (IceCv) 17 spiny frogs 16 naga magi 3 molten gargoyles (Lair:6) A gargoyle (D:10) 4 rime drakes 6 kobold demonologists 5 komodo dragons 3 centaur skeletons An efreet (D:13) 6 freezing wraiths 38 yaktaurs 4 tengu conjurers A yaktaur skeleton (Vaults:3) A queen bee (Lair:1) A troll (shapeshifter) (Depths:3) 13 polar bears (IceCv) A queen bee (shapeshifter) (Depths:2) A meliai (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4) 3 trolls Prince Ribbit (D:7) A merfolk (shapeshifter) (Depths:5) A tengu simulacrum (Vaults:1) 23 hornets A raiju (Depths:2) 12 tyrant leeches 2 blink frogs (shapeshifter) Grinder (D:5) 8 blink frogs 5 bog bodies 3 human simulacra 7 hippogriffs An iron dragon simulacrum (Vaults:1) 76 slime creatures 9 dream sheep (Lair:6) 14 spriggans 2 fire giant simulacra 2 vampires (Depths:2) 7 wyverns A tarantella (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2) 53 yaks An air elemental (Elf:1) 13 water elementals 9 shadows 2 basilisks (Lair:6) 4 wraiths A redback (shapeshifter) (D:12) A golden eye (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1) 6 fire elementals 3 hogs (Snake:1) 3 hungry ghosts 4 golden eyes (Slime:2) Grum (D:9) A human (shapeshifter) (Vaults:3) A yaktaur simulacrum (Vaults:1) 23 vampire mosquitoes An elf simulacrum (Vaults:1) 9 insubstantial wisps 12 wargs 58 nagas 17 swamp worms A naga (shapeshifter) (Vaults:3) 4 acid dragons 13 water moccasins 8 porcupines A soldier ant (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1) A floating eye (Depths:2) A deep troll zombie (Vaults:3) A spectral spriggan (Depths:2) 32 orc warriors 2 spectral trolls (Depths:2) 4 black bears 16 hell hounds 5 sky beasts A snapping turtle zombie (Depths:2) 10 swamp drakes 2 phantoms 3 slaves (D:7) A necrophage (D:11) An eye of draining (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1) 2 ice beasts An ettin simulacrum (Vaults:1) 36 ogres 10 boggarts 2 eyes of draining 21 wolves 12 crocodiles 30 centaurs An elf zombie (Vaults:3) 6 big kobolds 16 bullfrogs 2 gnoll sergeants (D:6) 4 earth elementals A glowing shapeshifter simulacrum (Vaults:1) A water moccasin skeleton (D:6) 5 spectral ogres (Depths:2) 22 killer bees 6 scorpions 3 spectral nagas (Depths:2) 10 wights 4 electric eels 4 spectral centaurs (Depths:2) 8 crimson imps 13 lava snakes 3 bullfrog zombies A hound (shapeshifter) (Depths:4) 10 jellies 3 centaur zombies 3 hounds 41 orc wizards 23 orc priests An iron imp (Depths:3) An iguana (D:6) A spriggan simulacrum (Depths:2) 13 worker ants A troll simulacrum (Depths:2) A hound zombie (D:5) A howler monkey zombie (D:10) A howler monkey skeleton (D:11) 21 gnolls 18 adders A shadow imp (D:10) 2 oozes An adder zombie (D:9) 2 adder skeletons (D:4) A worm (D:3) 3 dart slugs 4 leopard geckos 119 orcs 7 giant cockroaches 7 goblins 9 hobgoblins 8 jackals 24 kobolds 4 quokkas 6 ball pythons 7 bats 5 frilled lizards A leopard gecko zombie (D:8) A quokka zombie (D:8) 4 rats A crawling corpse (Vaults:4) A fire vortex (D:15) 4 fungi 10 plants 2147 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) A juggernaut (Depths:5) Margery (Vaults:3) A quicksilver dragon (Depths:5) 4 acid blobs (Slime:5) A death cob (Zot:2) The ghost of D1Wyvern the Hoplite, an adept MiBe of Trog (Vaults:1) Frances (D:13) A shadow dragon (Zot:2) 4 azure jellies (Slime:5) 2 tengu reavers A nagaraja (Snake:4) Aizul (Elf:1) A frost giant (Depths:5) A deep elf sorcerer (Vaults:4) 2 draconian shifters An ironheart preserver (Vaults:2) A draconian stormcaller (Zot:2) 7 very ugly things A stone giant (shapeshifter) (Depths:4) 2 green draconians 3 black draconians (Zot:3) A white draconian (Zot:2) A dire elephant (Lair:3) A yellow draconian (Zot:1) A red draconian (Zot:3) 3 deep elf death magi The ghost of WaifuGate the Severer, a journeyman OgFi of Okawaru (D:11) An ettin (Vaults:4) 6 death oozes (Slime:5) A green death (Swamp:4) 2 vault guards (Vaults:2) An eidolon (Depths:2) 2 fire dragons A yaktaur captain (Depths:3) 2 naga warriors (Snake:1) An ice dragon (Vaults:4) A hell beast (Swamp:4) A ghost crab (Swamp:1) 3 anacondas (Snake:2) A hydra (Swamp:4) The ghost of Tovical the Carver, a journeyman TeAK of Lugonu (Orc:1) 3 two-headed ogres A centaur warrior (Vaults:3) An ogre mage (D:14) 3 death yaks (Lair:6) 2 deep troll shamans 4 dancing weapons (Elf:2) A deep troll earth mage (Depths:3) A shock serpent (Snake:1) A shock serpent (shapeshifter) (D:15) 2 deep elf knights A large abomination (Swamp:4) A skeletal warrior (D:14) A wizard (Vaults:1) 3 flayed ghosts 2 swamp dragons (Swamp:4) 10 deep trolls 2 deep elf archers A phantasmal warrior (Depths:2) 14 deep elf magi 12 ugly things A salamander (Depths:3) 5 elephants 5 black mambas A moth of wrath (Zot:2) 2 naga magi (Snake:2) A spectral elf (Vaults:1) 2 centaur skeletons (D:14) 2 vault sentinels A spiny frog (Swamp:1) A komodo dragon (Lair:6) 2 yaktaurs A spectral merfolk (Depths:2) An ice devil (Depths:5) 2 hornets A tyrant leech (Swamp:1) 19 slime creatures A bog body (Swamp:4) A wind drake (shapeshifter) (Elf:3) 3 shadows A hog (Snake:1) 2 basilisks An elf simulacrum (Vaults:1) 2 vampire mosquitoes (Swamp:1) 3 nagas 4 hell hounds A hydra simulacrum (Depths:2) A soldier ant (D:13) A porcupine (Lair:1) 6 orc warriors A black bear (D:13) 5 ogres 4 wolves A crocodile (Lair:6) An orc wizard (D:13) 2 orc priests 2 worker ants (Lair:6) 8 orcs 2 crawling corpses (Vaults:4) 236 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A vault warden (Vaults:3) 3 stone giants A yaktaur captain (Vaults:1) A centaur warrior (D:15) A deep elf knight (Vaults:3) A deep troll (Vaults:4) A deep elf mage (D:14) 12 yaktaurs A hippogriff (D:13) A yak (Lair:4) 3 humans (Snake:1) A vampire mosquito (Swamp:3) A warg (Depths:2) A slave (D:7) An adder (D:11) 5 orcs (D:11) 2 crawling corpses (Elf:3) 357 fulminant prisms 34 fungi 27 plants 2 withered plants (D:11) 457 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 2840 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------+----------+------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | Boartato the Human Conjurer began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 13/13 MP: 3/3 293 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 11/19 MP: 1/5 1058 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 24/24 MP: 2/6 1582 | D:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations 1582 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 19/30 MP: 0/8 2479 | D:2 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 19/35 MP: 0/9 2900 | D:3 | Noticed an ogre 2914 | D:2 | Learned a level 3 spell: Dazzling Spray 2917 | D:2 | Learned a level 2 spell: Searing Ray 2948 | D:3 | Killed an ogre 2948 | D:3 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 36/42 MP: 1/11 2956 | D:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting 3094 | D:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Hexes 3738 | D:3 | Found an opulent altar of Gozag. 4276 | D:3 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 48/49 MP: 1/12 4374 | D:3 | Learned a level 4 spell: Iskenderun's Mystic Blast 4766 | D:4 | Reached skill level 2 in Fighting 4963 | D:4 | Found Wutros's Distillery. 5018 | D:4 | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 50 gold pieces 5018 | D:4 | Bought a potion of degeneration for 10 gold pieces 5887 | D:4 | Learned a level 4 spell: Fulminant Prism 5888 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 6003 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 52/57 MP: 5/14 6119 | D:5 | Noticed Grinder 6120 | D:5 | Paralysed by Grinder for 2 turns 6253 | D:5 | Killed Grinder 6253 | D:5 | Reached skill level 3 in Fighting 6977 | D:5 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 63/65 MP: 8/16 7042 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Hexes 7065 | D:5 | Reached skill level 4 in Fighting 7065 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting 9076 | D:6 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru. 9182 | D:6 | Noticed a green ugly thing 9198 | D:6 | Noticed a troll 9207 | D:6 | Killed a troll 9207 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 9209 | D:6 | Identified the cursed +2 trident "Virerosch" {pain, rF+ | Dex+2} 9301 | D:6 | Learned a level 4 spell: Force Lance 9320 | D:6 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 74/74 MP: 15/18 9351 | D:6 | Killed a green ugly thing 9891 | D:7 | Noticed Pikel 9899 | D:7 | Killed Pikel 9899 | D:7 | Reached skill level 6 in Fighting 10199 | D:7 | Noticed Joseph 10207 | D:7 | Killed Joseph 10207 | D:7 | Reached skill level 5 in Translocations 10422 | D:7 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 10442 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 10477 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Vehumet 10620 | D:7 | Noticed a manticore 10625 | D:7 | Killed a manticore 10786 | D:7 | Noticed Prince Ribbit 10790 | D:7 | Killed Prince Ribbit 10790 | D:7 | Reached XP level 11. HP: 83/83 MP: 17/21 11522 | D:8 | Reached skill level 7 in Fighting 11695 | D:8 | Reached * piety under Vehumet 11695 | D:8 | Offered knowledge of Sandblast by Vehumet. 11932 | D:8 | Found Eho Osiffe's Book Shoppe. 12126 | D:8 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One. 12215 | D:8 | Noticed a two-headed ogre 12230 | D:8 | Killed a two-headed ogre 12230 | D:8 | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations 12892 | D:9 | Noticed Grum 12898 | D:9 | Killed Grum 13367 | D:9 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 13499 | D:9 | Found Xaall's Antique Armour Boutique. 13507 | D:9 | Offered knowledge of Sting by Vehumet. 13649 | D:8 | Bought a book of Power for 630 gold pieces 13714 | D:9 | Reached ** piety under Vehumet 14074 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 14334 | D:10 | Learned a level 7 spell: Orb of Destruction 14400 | D:10 | Noticed a two-headed ogre 14404 | D:10 | Killed a two-headed ogre 14404 | D:10 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 91/91 MP: 21/23 14649 | D:10 | Noticed a two-headed ogre 14681 | D:10 | Killed a two-headed ogre 14681 | D:10 | Offered knowledge of Mephitic Cloud by Vehumet. 15204 | D:10 | Found Otom's Distillery. 15247 | D:11 | Found a hazy altar of Hepliaklqana. 15303 | D:11 | Reached *** piety under Vehumet 15499 | D:11 | Offered knowledge of Olgreb's Toxic Radiance by Vehumet. 15526 | D:11 | Found a runed translucent door. 15526 | D:11 | Noticed WaifuGate's ghost (journeyman OgFi) 15661 | D:11 | You fall through a shaft for 3 floors! 15880 | D:14 | Noticed a two-headed ogre 15888 | D:14 | Killed a two-headed ogre 16101 | D:14 | Noticed a four-headed hydra 16107 | D:14 | Killed a four-headed hydra 16557 | D:14 | Noticed a death knight 16558 | D:14 | Noticed a skeletal warrior 16559 | D:14 | Noticed a skeletal warrior 16584 | D:14 | Reached **** piety under Vehumet 16646 | D:14 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 96/97 MP: 18/24 16657 | D:14 | Learned a level 7 spell: Spellforged Servitor 16743 | D:14 | Offered knowledge of Lee's Rapid Deconstruction by Vehumet. 16743 | D:14 | Reached skill level 1 in Summonings 17183 | D:14 | Reached skill level 5 in Summonings 17771 | D:14 | Noticed a centaur warrior 17778 | D:14 | Killed a centaur warrior 18016 | D:14 | Found a gate to the Vaults. 18103 | D:13 | Noticed Frances 18303 | D:13 | Found Varoext's Distillery. 18312 | D:13 | Bought a potion of haste for 170 gold pieces 18592 | D:13 | Noticed a five-headed hydra 18596 | D:13 | Killed a five-headed hydra 18622 | D:13 | Killed Frances 18664 | D:13 | Reached ***** piety under Vehumet 18852 | D:13 | Noticed Maurice 18876 | D:13 | Killed Maurice 18919 | D:13 | Offered knowledge of Freezing Cloud by Vehumet. 18919 | D:13 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 81/103 MP: 22/26 20685 | D:11 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 20772 | D:11 | Killed WaifuGate's ghost 21008 | D:9 | Learned a level 2 spell: Blink 21009 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 22078 | Lair:1 | Reached skill level 15 in Conjurations 22714 | Lair:2 | Offered knowledge of Conjure Ball Lightning by Vehumet. 22775 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 8 in Fighting 22795 | Lair:2 | Got a pitted ivory ring 22978 | Lair:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting 23622 | Lair:2 | Identified the ring of Democracy {+Fly Int+2} (You found it | on level 2 of the Lair of Beasts) 24559 | Lair:3 | Noticed a dire elephant 24563 | Lair:3 | Killed a dire elephant 25188 | Lair:3 | Found a hide-covered altar of Uskayaw. 25301 | Lair:3 | Found a staircase to the Swamp. 25414 | Lair:3 | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit. 25930 | Lair:4 | Found a frozen archway. 25941 | IceCv | Entered an ice cave 25958 | IceCv | Reached XP level 15. HP: 112/112 MP: 29/29 26533 | IceCv | Reached skill level 9 in Fighting 26964 | IceCv | Offered knowledge of Bolt of Cold by Vehumet. 27009 | IceCv | Learned a level 6 spell: Bolt of Fire 27072 | IceCv | Reached skill level 1 in Fire Magic 27275 | IceCv | Noticed a frost giant 27283 | IceCv | Killed a frost giant 27307 | IceCv | Got a slimy whip 28879 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Fire Magic 29080 | Lair:5 | Got a polished morningstar 29119 | Lair:5 | Identified the +2 whip "Qubopymo" {flame, Dex+6} (You found | it in an ice cave) 29120 | Lair:5 | Identified the +5 morningstar of Ru's Favour {crush, rElec} | (You found it on level 5 of the Lair of Beasts) 29920 | Lair:6 | Entered Level 6 of the Lair of Beasts 29930 | Lair:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 30448 | Lair:6 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits. 31092 | Lair:6 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 104/120 MP: 22/31 31935 | Lair:6 | Found a large runed translucent door. 31935 | Lair:6 | Found a large runed translucent door. 32453 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines 32692 | Orc:2 | Entered Level 2 of the Orcish Mines 32692 | Orc:2 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls. 33224 | Orc:2 | Offered knowledge of Bolt of Draining by Vehumet. 33842 | Orc:2 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh. 33844 | Orc:2 | Found Sivear's General Store. 33852 | Orc:2 | Bought a scroll of teleportation for 36 gold pieces 34553 | Orc:2 | Found Jexzol's Antique Weapon Shoppe. 34554 | Orc:2 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh. 34555 | Orc:2 | Found Ufeasud's Antique Armour Emporium. 34583 | Orc:2 | Bought the +3 warlock's mirror {reflect} for 960 gold | pieces 34583 | Orc:2 | Found the +3 warlock's mirror {reflect} 34665 | Orc:2 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh. 34681 | Orc:2 | Found Ajul's Gadget Emporium. 34776 | Orc:2 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh. 35270 | Orc:1 | Found a runed translucent door. 35273 | Orc:1 | Noticed Tovical's ghost (journeyman TeAK) 35450 | Orc:1 | Killed Tovical's ghost 35646 | D:15 | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon 35920 | D:15 | Reached skill level 1 in Shields 36104 | D:15 | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting 36517 | D:15 | Noticed Roxanne 36904 | D:15 | Found a staircase to the Depths. 37038 | D:15 | Noticed Louise 37052 | D:15 | Killed Louise 37789 | Elf:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Elven Halls 38135 | Elf:1 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 111/129 MP: 17/33 38474 | Elf:1 | Offered knowledge of Poison Arrow by Vehumet. 38822 | Elf:1 | Reached skill level 11 in Fighting 38823 | Elf:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations 39002 | Elf:1 | Noticed Aizul 39007 | Elf:1 | Killed Aizul 39682 | Elf:1 | Found Yseriozu's Weapon Shop. 40449 | Elf:2 | Found Eqavaysm's Assorted Antiques. 40457 | Elf:2 | Found Kiusem's Jewellery Shoppe. 40505 | Elf:2 | Bought a scroll labeled DOEMPENNAE for 27 gold pieces 40630 | Elf:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Shields 40794 | Elf:2 | Found Uretto's Armour Boutique. 40819 | Elf:2 | Bought a +0 pair of gloves for 58 gold pieces 40831 | Elf:2 | Found Devewuuxi's Book Emporium. 41458 | Elf:2 | Found a huge runed translucent gate. 41458 | Elf:2 | Found a huge runed translucent gate. 41458 | Elf:2 | Found a huge runed translucent gate. 41459 | Elf:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations 41462 | Elf:2 | Found a huge runed translucent gate. 41464 | Elf:2 | Found a huge runed translucent gate. 41587 | Elf:2 | Reached ****** piety under Vehumet 41613 | Elf:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth 42067 | Elf:2 | Offered knowledge of Poison Arrow by Vehumet. 42067 | Elf:2 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 138/138 MP: 17/34 42479 | Elf:3 | Entered Level 3 of the Elven Halls 42792 | Elf:3 | Noticed a deep elf blademaster 42813 | Elf:3 | Noticed a deep elf master archer 42821 | Elf:3 | Killed a deep elf master archer 42830 | Elf:3 | Killed a deep elf blademaster 43061 | Elf:3 | Noticed a deep elf master archer 43064 | Elf:3 | Killed a deep elf master archer 43066 | Elf:3 | Noticed a deep elf blademaster 43228 | Elf:3 | Noticed a deep elf master archer 43237 | Elf:3 | Killed a deep elf blademaster 44000 | Elf:3 | Reached skill level 12 in Fighting 44509 | Elf:3 | Killed a deep elf master archer 44815 | Elf:3 | Identified the ring of Xitraxt {rElec rF- rC+++ AC+6} 44985 | Elf:3 | Identified the ring "Nasie" {+Blink rF+ Dex-3 SInv} 44985 | Elf:3 | Noticed a deep elf master archer 44998 | Elf:3 | Killed a deep elf master archer 45087 | Elf:3 | Reached XP level 19. HP: 146/146 MP: 36/36 45145 | Elf:3 | Identified the +3 leather armour of Resourcefulness {rN++ | MR+ Str-5 SInv} 45341 | Elf:3 | Identified the Disquisition on Confrontation and | Malediction 45395 | Elf:3 | Got a shimmering ring mail 45433 | Elf:3 | Got a shimmering cloak 45454 | Elf:3 | Identified the +2 cloak of Hysteria {Regen+ rCorr MP+9} | (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls) 45455 | Elf:3 | Identified a scroll of acquirement 45481 | Elf:3 | Identified the cursed +0 ring mail of Music {MR+ Int+2} | (You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls) 46360 | Swamp:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp 46368 | Swamp:1 | Offered knowledge of Poison Arrow by Vehumet. 48117 | Swamp:1 | Learned a level 6 spell: Iron Shot 48488 | Swamp:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging 48519 | Swamp:2 | Paralysed by a hornet for 3 turns 50499 | Swamp:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Earth Magic 51158 | Swamp:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Swamp 51279 | Swamp:4 | Learned a level 5 spell: Fireball 51631 | Swamp:4 | Reached skill level 13 in Fighting 51936 | Swamp:4 | Found a shimmering altar of Xom. 51946 | Swamp:4 | Offered knowledge of Fire Storm by Vehumet. 51946 | Swamp:4 | Offered knowledge of Shatter by Vehumet. 51946 | Swamp:4 | Offered knowledge of Chain Lightning by Vehumet. 52208 | Swamp:4 | Reached XP level 20. HP: 156/156 MP: 34/37 53227 | Swamp:4 | Identified Meani's Incunabulum of Ashen Snow 53331 | Swamp:4 | Got a decaying rune of Zot 53592 | Snake:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Snake Pit 53777 | Snake:1 | Noticed Kirke 53782 | Snake:1 | Killed Kirke 55001 | Snake:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Maces & Flails 55840 | Snake:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails 56437 | Snake:2 | You fall through a shaft! 56871 | Snake:3 | Found Ilemmuk's Antique Weapon Emporium. 58034 | Snake:3 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 163/163 MP: 38/38 58095 | Snake:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Snake Pit 59578 | Snake:4 | Reached skill level 14 in Fighting 60468 | Snake:4 | Found an iron altar of Okawaru. 61091 | Snake:4 | Got a serpentine rune of Zot 61431 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults 61656 | Elf:2 | Bought a book of Annihilations for 1987 gold pieces 63104 | Vaults:1 | You fall through a shaft! 63412 | Vaults:1 | Reached XP level 22. HP: 173/173 MP: 40/40 63571 | Vaults:1 | Reached skill level 10 in Shields 63902 | Vaults:1 | Found a runed translucent gate. 63902 | Vaults:1 | Found a runed translucent gate. 63902 | Vaults:1 | Found a runed translucent gate. 63905 | Vaults:1 | Noticed D1Wyvern's ghost (adept MiBe) 63948 | Vaults:1 | Killed D1Wyvern's ghost 63961 | Vaults:1 | Reached skill level 15 in Dodging 65284 | Vaults:2 | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting 66575 | Vaults:2 | Found a staircase to the Crypt. 67597 | Vaults:3 | Noticed Margery 67606 | Vaults:3 | Killed Margery 68470 | Vaults:3 | Reached XP level 23. HP: 183/183 MP: 31/41 69230 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 16 in Fighting 69906 | Vaults:4 | Found a flickering gateway to a bazaar. 69924 | Bazaar | Entered a bazaar 69924 | Bazaar | Found Zorhiuru's Distillery. 69927 | Bazaar | Found Poyleik's General Store. 69935 | Bazaar | Found Goabbuem's Weapon Shoppe. 69940 | Bazaar | Found Diudacel's General Store. 69975 | Bazaar | Found Cotsadwe's Antique Weapon Emporium. 69979 | Bazaar | Bought an ichor-stained mace for 144 gold pieces 69999 | Bazaar | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 60 gold pieces 69999 | Bazaar | Bought a potion of brilliance for 48 gold pieces 69999 | Bazaar | Bought 2 potions of mutation for 192 gold pieces 69999 | Bazaar | Bought a potion of magic for 96 gold pieces 70016 | Bazaar | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 80 gold pieces 70016 | Bazaar | Identified the +6 mace "Poghuq" {crush, rN+} (You bought it | in a shop in a bazaar) 70160 | Vaults:4 | Learned a level 9 spell: Fire Storm 72525 | Vaults:4 | Reached skill level 10 in Fire Magic 73276 | Depths:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Depths 73331 | Depths:1 | Found a gateway to Hell. 73840 | Depths:1 | Found Safupum's Jewellery Shop. 73840 | Depths:1 | Found Mibliah's Gadget Shoppe. 73841 | Depths:1 | Found Otawul's Jewellery Shop. 73860 | Depths:1 | Found a one-way gate to the infinite horrors of the Abyss. 73860 | Depths:1 | Noticed Nikola 73871 | Depths:1 | Killed Nikola 73871 | Depths:1 | Reached XP level 24. HP: 191/191 MP: 25/41 74097 | Depths:1 | Noticed Sojobo 74812 | Depths:1 | Reached skill level 15 in Spellcasting 75091 | Depths:1 | Killed Sojobo 77579 | Depths:2 | Identified the cursed +0 leather armour "Juymmaor" {rElec | MR+ Int-3} 78117 | Depths:2 | Identified the +6 faerie dragon scales {rCorr Str+3} 78117 | Depths:2 | Noticed the Enchantress 78133 | Depths:2 | Killed the Enchantress 78832 | Depths:2 | Reached XP level 25. HP: 197/197 MP: 43/43 79506 | Depths:3 | Reached XP level 26. HP: 204/204 MP: 43/43 80225 | Depths:3 | Reached skill level 10 in Maces & Flails 80583 | Depths:3 | Found the +8 frozen axe "Frostbite" {freezing cloud, *Noise | +Fly rC+} 80906 | Depths:3 | Found a one-way gate leading to the halls of Pandemonium. 80994 | Depths:3 | Noticed Boris 81006 | Depths:3 | Killed Boris 83726 | Depths:4 | Found a runed translucent gate. 83726 | Depths:4 | Found a runed translucent gate. 83727 | Depths:4 | Found a runed translucent gate. 83728 | Depths:4 | Noticed Gietooco's ghost (veteran TrFi) 83974 | Depths:4 | You fall through a shaft! 83974 | Depths:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Depths 84112 | Depths:4 | Reached XP level 27. HP: 167/210 MP: 21/43 84511 | Depths:4 | Learned a level 6 spell: Deflect Missiles 84847 | Depths:5 | Found a gateway to a ziggurat. 84850 | Depths:5 | Reached skill level 1 in Charms 84850 | Depths:5 | Reached skill level 1 in Air Magic 85247 | Depths:5 | Noticed a juggernaut 85296 | Depths:5 | Killed a juggernaut 85645 | Depths:5 | Found Cez Dio's Assorted Antiques. 85894 | Depths:5 | Identified the +1 robe "Jaety" {+Blink rF+ Int+4} 86061 | Depths:5 | Identified the +3 scale mail of the Tortoise {Dex+2} 86636 | Depths:5 | Found a gate to the Realm of Zot. 87319 | Slime:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Pits of Slime 87810 | Slime:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Charms 87810 | Slime:2 | Reached skill level 5 in Air Magic 88373 | Slime:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Pits of Slime 88670 | Slime:4 | Gained mutation: You occasionally shout uncontrollably at | your foes. [a shining eye] 88726 | Slime:5 | Reached skill level 17 in Fighting 88798 | Slime:5 | Noticed the Royal Jelly 89016 | Slime:5 | Killed the Royal Jelly 89216 | Slime:5 | Found the +3 Elemental Staff {rElec rF++ rC++ MR++ AC+5} 89222 | Slime:5 | Got a slimy rune of Zot 89780 | D:13 | Bought a potion of haste for 170 gold pieces 89780 | D:13 | Bought a potion of cancellation for 136 gold pieces 89780 | D:13 | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 85 gold pieces 89780 | D:13 | Bought a potion of invisibility for 136 gold pieces 89873 | D:10 | Bought 2 potions of brilliance for 96 gold pieces 89873 | D:10 | Bought a potion of brilliance for 48 gold pieces 89873 | D:10 | Bought a potion of brilliance for 48 gold pieces 89873 | D:10 | Bought a potion of haste for 120 gold pieces 89873 | D:10 | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 60 gold pieces 89873 | D:10 | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 60 gold pieces 90035 | D:4 | Bought a potion of brilliance for 40 gold pieces 90035 | D:4 | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 50 gold pieces 90035 | D:4 | Bought a potion of haste for 100 gold pieces 90035 | D:4 | Bought a potion of invisibility for 80 gold pieces 90523 | Zot:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Realm of Zot 90561 | Depths:5 | HP: 3/215 [death cob (21)] 91779 | Zot:1 | Reached skill level 18 in Fighting 94145 | Zot:2 | Reached skill level 19 in Fighting 94561 | Zot:2 | Noticed a Killer Klown 94896 | Zot:2 | Killed a Killer Klown 96029 | Zot:2 | Killed from afar by a green draconian scorcher Skill XL: | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 | ---------------+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------+----- Conjurations | 5 6 7 8 9 11 14 15 16 17 | 17.4 Spellcasting | 3 4 5 7 8 10 11 12 13 14 16 | 16.9 Fighting | 1 2 3 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 19 | 19.3 Hexes | 1 2 4 6 | 6.4 Translocations | 5 6 | 6.6 Summonings | 9 | 9.7 Fire Magic | 5 10 11 | 11.5 Dodging | 5 7 11 12 14 15 16 17 18 | 18.3 Shields | 4 6 8 9 11 12 13 | 13.8 Evocations | 5 8 9 | 9.1 Stealth | 5 8 | 8.3 Earth Magic | 3 | 3.0 Maces & Flails | 6 8 9 12 | 12.7 Charms | 8 | 8.0 Air Magic | 8 | 8.0 Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 | 22-24 | 25-27 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Unarmed | 5 | | | | | | | | || 5 Short sword | 20 | 58 | | | | | | | || 78 Dagger | | | 46 | | | | | | || 46 Staff | | | 1 | 2 | 9 | 11 | 3 | 2 | || 28 Morningstar | | | | | | | | 191 | 1007 || 1198 Cast: Magic Dart | 49 | 87 | 87 | 32 | | | | | || 255 Dazzling Spray | | 4 | 25 | 21 | 5 | 104 | 38 | 4 | || 201 Searing Ray | | 12 | 50 | 5 | 2 | | | | || 69 Iskenderun's Myst | | | 5 | 104 | 1 | | | | || 110 Fulminant Prism | | | 10 | 76 | 170 | 57 | 13 | 22 | 9 || 357 Force Lance | | | | 95 | 355 | 310 | 273 | 123 | 80 || 1236 Orb of Destructio | | | | 1 | 32 | 54 | 138 | 143 | 198 || 566 Spellforged Servi | | | | | 15 | 26 | 26 | 26 | 33 || 126 Blink | | | | | 1 | 8 | 10 | 8 | 13 || 40 Bolt of Fire | | | | | 15 | 95 | 193 | 257 | 184 || 744 Iron Shot | | | | | | | 53 | 13 | 19 || 85 Fireball | | | | | | | 185 | 128 | 86 || 399 Abil: Evoke Flight | | | | | | | 4 | 3 | 2 || 9 Stop Flying | | | | | | | | 1 | 1 || 2 Evoke: Wand | | | | | | | | 1 | 8 || 9 Use: Scroll | | 12 | 8 | 6 | 22 | 7 | 12 | 5 | 9 || 81 Potion | | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 26 || 41 Stab: Sleeping | 2 | 2 | | | | 1 | | | 7 || 12 Invisible | | 1 | 2 | | | | | | || 3 Distracted | | | | | | | | | 6 || 6 Eat: Chunk | 2 | 10 | 17 | 45 | 57 | 66 | 85 | 116 | 74 || 472 Ration | | | 1 | 2 | 9 | 11 | 28 | 14 | 19 || 84 Armor: Robe | 6 | | 1 | 33 | 64 | 19 | 41 | 46 | || 210 Leather armour | 7 | 36 | 30 | | | | | | || 73 Skin | | | 4 | | | | | | || 4 Acid dragon scale | | | | | | | | 26 | 443 || 469 Dodge: Dodged | 26 | 87 | 75 | 55 | 112 | 99 | 196 | 260 | 858 || 1768 Block: Buckler | | | | | | 45 | 205 | 301 | 768 || 1319 Reflection | | | | | | 35 | 35 | 68 | 95 || 233

Saturday, 11th May 2019, 15:42 by acoolguy

I'm a bit surprised you only had 3 rations left. I think your spell casting level was fine honestly (it tends to be far higher than what I normally get). You could have dove down to Zot 5 and try to get the orb with that amount of rations (I dive Zot in all my games). Not sure exactly what was causing the hunger issues this late. Are you butchering corpses and eating those? Did a gourmand amulet or staff of energy pop up in your game? Are you using your melee weapon against popcorn?

Saturday, 11th May 2019, 16:08 by Boartato

acoolguy wrote:I'm a bit surprised you only had 3 rations left. I think your spell casting level was fine honestly (it tends to be far higher than what I normally get). You could have dove down to Zot 5 and try to get the orb with that amount of rations (I dive Zot in all my games). Not sure exactly what was causing the hunger issues this late. Are you butchering corpses and eating those? Did a gourmand amulet or staff of energy pop up in your game? Are you using your melee weapon against popcorn?

I was prioritizing eating corpses so much that I was actually stopping mid fight to eat rather than get pushed off the corpses by the next wave. My aoe was pretty weak, so I had to single target pretty much everything. I had 40 rations when I finished the lair/orc and started using orb/bolt spells more frequently. No staff of energy found, but I did have an amulet of the gourmand I passed up on using because the general consensus seemed to be that my food/food usage seemed fine so I opted for reflection boost followed by mana regen necklaces. By the time I should have realized I needed to swap, I forgot there was one lying on the floor somewhere. I was meleeing as much as I could, but my melee defense/damage was pretty sub par so I'd take so much hp damage against anything but the weakest mobs that healing became an issue so I opted to blow half my mana on my shitty hunger-free spells usually instead.

Is energy/gourmand basically a requirement for casters?

Edit: I think my skills in general are probably a bit "overtrained" due to playing human. That's their thing isn't it?
Edit2: 770th rank on my server score wise though, I'm pretty proud I got that high

Saturday, 11th May 2019, 19:41 by petercordia

My condolences.

If it helps, I've also died for food a few times, and I was never as close to starving as you were. An amulet of gourmand would have been a good call.

Most casters will have less trouble with food because they have more int. Intelligence significantly decreases hunger costs - see the wiki for details. You were quite unlucky not to get any +int items, and hucj has a lowish base intelligence.

Also, if your top spell is level 7, it is not unusual for a level 6 spell to have a significant hunger cost - I'd only expect level 5 spells to have a neglegible hunger cost. (Which they did when you died.)

Stairdancing edible monsters up can help with hunger management, as can starting big fights whilst you're carrying chunks. But you probably already knew that.

Saturday, 11th May 2019, 20:07 by Boartato

Still, learned a lot! Didn't know int impacted spell hunger cost so that's a big takeaway.

That's how roguelikes roll anyway, what you get is the experience and knowledge you gain.

Sunday, 12th May 2019, 19:27 by sanka

Boartato wrote:T - a scroll of acquirement

You can acquire food if you are really low. It should have been enough for Zot.

Sunday, 12th May 2019, 20:43 by Boartato

Huh. Did not even realize I'd picked one up.

I was getting pretty stressed trying to survive at that point, but eh that's what nerves do to you I guess.

Monday, 13th May 2019, 21:44 by tasonir

The spell hunger formula is very simple, it's just hunger - int * spellcasting. 23 int is a bit low for someone doing all their killing with magic, but it isn't impossible to work with. "Hunger" here is just a value from the table you can see here: http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Spell_Hunger.

if you want to cast a level 5 spell with no hunger that's 400 hunger, so 20 int x 20 spellcasting will do it for free. It's better if you have slightly more int and can do something like 25 int x 16 spellcasting. This is a reasonable goal for mid game. Getting level 6/7 spells to hungerless usually isn't required, letting them still have some small hunger cost is fine. If you do have a high int character (30 or above) then it's fairly doable.

Also if you haven't played much recently, a 'ration' is now a smaller unit of food then it used to be. So you'll eat more of them, but more of them are generated as well.

Tuesday, 14th May 2019, 09:29 by sanka

One more tip: if you feel low on food do not go to Slime. That is a branch which strictly reduces your reserves. There are no edible corpses, no food generated (except maybe in the treasure at the end), most likely you need to cast and rest a lot.

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