FeMo of Dith: book shop


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Post Wednesday, 3rd April 2019, 12:07

FeMo of Dith: book shop

[newb alert] I am in a bookshop and looking for a purchase recommendation. I am a Felid Monk of Dith :roll: and was trying to stick to the "natural" spellcasting skills (i.e. Translocation and Hex) but I am not set on this. Below is list of the books for sale and a character dump. Any other advice would be welcome. Thanks.
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Welcome to Pakkeaps's Book Shop! What would you like to do?
 a -  700 gold   a book of Party Tricks
 b -  910 gold   the Collected Works on Toxins and the Volcanoes
 c -  420 gold   a book of Callings (unknown)
 d -  910 gold   a book of Spatial Translocations (unknown)
 e -  420 gold   a book of Callings (unknown)
 f -  420 gold   a book of Necromancy (unknown)
 g -  420 gold   a book of Necromancy (unknown)
 h - 1485 gold   Saghow's Grimoire of Unstable Toxins
 i - 1050 gold   a book of Burglary (unknown)
 j -  910 gold   a book of Unlife (unknown)
You have 869 gold pieces.

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.23.1 (console) character file.

Game seed: 0

Letem the Gouger (Felid Monk)                      Turns: 17142, Time: 01:56:13

Health: 51/51      AC:  5    Str: 10    XL:     11   Next: 17%
Magic:  16/16      EV: 26    Int: 13    God:    Dithmenos [****..]
Gold:   869        SH:  0    Dex: 18    Spells: 11/16 levels left
                                        Lives:  2   Deaths: 0

rFire    . . .     SeeInvis +     - Unarmed
rCold    . . .     Gourm    .   (shield unavailable)
rNeg     . . .     Faith    .   (armour unavailable)
rPois    .         Spirit   .   (helmet unavailable)
rElec    .         Reflect  .   (cloak unavailable)
rCorr    .         Harm     .   (gloves unavailable)
MR       +....                  (boots unavailable)
Stlth    ++++++++..             (no amulet)
HPRegen  0.17/turn              i - ring of wizardry
MPRegen  0.15/turn              u - +3 ring of protection

@: wreathed by umbra, quick
A: very small, no armour, no weapons or thrown items, stealth, claws 1, fangs 3,
see invisible, carnivore, speed 1, shaggy fur 2, slow metabolism 1, sharp paws
a: Shadow Step, Renounce Religion


You are on level 12 of the Dungeon.
You worship Dithmenos.
Dithmenos is greatly pleased with you.
You are completely stuffed.

You have visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and seen 13 of its levels.

You have collected 869 gold pieces.

Inventory:

Missiles
 s - 90 arrows
Jewellery
 i - a ring of wizardry (left paw)
 p - an uncursed ring of positive energy
 r - an uncursed ring of poison resistance
 u - a +3 ring of protection (right paw)
Wands
 f - a wand of iceblast (28)
 n - a wand of clouds (5)
 t - a wand of paralysis (6)
 x - a wand of acid (10)
Scrolls
 b - a scroll of immolation
 c - 2 scrolls labeled ZEOSUKOMEE
 e - 4 scrolls labeled OCZAJU ORYWO
 g - 6 scrolls of amnesia
 j - 11 scrolls of teleportation
 k - 6 scrolls of magic mapping
 v - a scroll labeled LYTZUOWNEK
 w - a scroll labeled YXUOSE ZICHOFF
 y - a scroll labeled JYSUIGINYG
 z - a scroll labeled EBINIMPUSU
 B - a scroll of blinking
Potions
 d - a potion of magic
 h - 2 potions of brilliance
 l - 2 potions of curing
 m - 2 potions of resistance
 o - a potion of lignification
 A - a potion of berserk rage
Comestibles
 a - 25 rations
 q - a chunk of flesh


   Skills:
 + Level 7.7 Fighting
 + Level 10.1 Dodging
 + Level 10.5 Stealth
 * Level 10.6 Unarmed Combat
 - Level 3.0 Spellcasting
 - Level 2.1 Hexes
 + Level 4.5 Invocations
 + Level 3.5 Evocations


You have 11 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Confusing Touch       Hex            #.....       4%          1    #......
b - Confuse               Hex            #.......     12%         3    ###....
c - Apportation           Tloc           #.....       9%          1    #......

Your spell library contains the following spells:

 Spells                   Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
 Beastly Appendage        Tmut           #.....       9%          1    #......
 Summon Butterflies       Summ           #.......     9%          1    #......
 Tukima's Dance           Hex            #.......     12%         3    ###....
 Sticks to Snakes         Tmut           #.......     14%         2    ###....
 Gell's Gravitas          Tloc           #.........   26%         3    ###....
 Lesser Beckoning         Tloc           #.........   26%         3    ###....
 Spider Form              Tmut/Pois      #.........   26%         3    ###....
 Ice Form                 Ice/Tmut       #.......     63%         4    #####..
 Petrify                  Tmut/Erth      #.......     63%         4    #####..
 Metabolic Englaciation   Hex/Ice        #.........   82%         5    ######.
 Yara's Violent Unravell  Hex/Tmut       #.........   82%         5    ######.
 Alistair's Intoxication  Tmut/Pois      #.......     91%         5    ######.
 Blade Hands              Tmut           #.........   91%         5    ######.
 Invisibility             Hex            #.......     99%         6    #######


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (12/15)            Temple (1/1) D:4            Lair (0/6) D:9
    Orc (0/2) D:12       

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Wu Jian
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh

Shops:
D:8 [   D:12 :

Annotations:
D:5 glass room with food and ogre
D:10 exclusion: manticore, Sonja


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You cannot wear armour.
You are incapable of wielding weapons or throwing items.
Your paws allow you to move quietly. (Stealth)
You have sharp claws.
You have razor-sharp teeth.
You have supernaturally acute eyesight. (SInv)
You are carnivorous and can eat meat at any time.
You cover ground quickly.
You are covered in thick fur. (AC +2)
You have a slow metabolism.
Your sharp claws are effective at attacking unaware monsters.


Message History

You kill the crimson imp!
Dithmenos accepts your kill.
The quokka bites you but does no damage.
You closely miss the quokka. The quokka closely misses you.
You claw the quokka!
You kill the quokka!
Dithmenos accepts your kill.
No target in view!
No target in view!
No target in view!
No target in view!
No target in view!
You see here a quokka corpse.
You butcher the quokka corpse.
q - a chunk of flesh
You see here a quokka skeleton.
c - 2 scrolls labeled ZEOSUKOMEE (gained 1)
There is an entrance to Pakkeaps's Book Shop here.
Char dumped to 'morgue/Letem.txt'.
Saving game... please wait.

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             ..........#.##.##.
              ######.#...##..##
                 ###.###..#..##
    ##         ###...# #####.#.
.####.        ##)..###     #...
 .....#########..###       ##.#
  #.............##       ####..
  #!........#.@.#        #.....
  #.............#        #.....
   #..........#.#        #.....
   #...÷........#        #..>..
   #..........###        #.....
   #..........#          #####.
   #..........#              #.
   #..........#              #.
   #..........#              #.


There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  A two-headed ogre (D:11)
  A manticore (D:11)
  A gargoyle (D:11)
  A kobold demonologist (D:11)
  A troll (D:12)
  Grinder (D:6)
  A hippogriff (D:11)
  A spriggan (D:7)
  A wyvern (D:11)
  A vampire (D:10)
  5 yaks (D:11)
  Grum (D:9)
  4 water moccasins
  3 orc warriors
  2 black bears
  2 phantoms
  A necrophage (D:10)
  6 ogres
  A hornet zombie (D:11)
  6 ice beasts
  2 centaurs
  2 wolves (D:8)
  A crocodile (D:9)
  3 big kobolds
  3 bullfrogs
  5 killer bees (D:11)
  4 scorpions
  8 wights
  2 howler monkeys
  11 crimson imps
  A centaur zombie (D:5)
  5 hounds
  A bullfrog skeleton (D:4)
  6 orc priests
  A centaur skeleton (D:4)
  3 iguanas
  11 orc wizards
  12 worker ants
  12 gnolls
  6 adders
  A shadow imp (D:11)
  An ooze (D:4)
  An adder skeleton (D:7)
  5 worms
  6 dart slugs
  4 leopard geckos
  30 orcs
  2 ball pythons
  6 giant cockroaches
  6 goblins
  7 hobgoblins
  9 jackals
  5 quokkas
  7 bats
  4 frilled lizards
  A jackal zombie (D:6)
  30 kobolds
  A leopard gecko zombie (D:5)
  3 quokka skeletons
  4 rats
273 creatures vanquished.

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Letem the Felid Monk began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 10/10 MP: 2/2
   337 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 14/14 MP: 3/3
   519 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 17/17 MP: 3/5
  1599 | D:2      | Found a faded altar of an unknown god.
  1627 | D:2      | Reached skill level 1 in Spellcasting
  1627 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 9/21 MP: 6/6
  3263 | D:2      | Found a hazy altar of Hepliaklqana.
  3770 | D:2      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 24/24 MP: 7/7
  4871 | D:3      | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
  4871 | D:3      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
  5150 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
  5365 | D:4      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  5381 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  5416 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of Dithmenos the Shadowed
  5416 | Temple   | Reached * piety under Dithmenos
  5416 | Temple   | Reached ** piety under Dithmenos
  5775 | D:3      | Gained mutation: You are covered in thick fur. (AC +2)
                  | [Felid growth]
  5775 | D:3      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 21/28 MP: 8/8
  6040 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Unarmed Combat
  6315 | D:4      | Found a hide-covered altar of Uskayaw.
  6316 | D:4      | Noticed a +0 hand axe
  6316 | D:4      | Noticed a +0 dagger
  6372 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth
  6786 | D:4      | Learned a level 1 spell: Confusing Touch
  6790 | D:4      | Learned a level 3 spell: Confuse
  6864 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 33/33 MP: 9/9
  7308 | D:4      | Found a hide-covered altar of Uskayaw.
  7334 | D:4      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  7635 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  7826 | D:5      | Reached skill level 1 in Hexes
  8838 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 22/36 MP: 8/12
  9010 | D:6      | Noticed Grinder
  9047 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  9062 | D:5      | Reached *** piety under Dithmenos
  9062 | D:5      | Reached skill level 1 in Invocations
  9483 | D:6      | Killed Grinder
  9831 | D:6      | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
  9914 | D:7      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
 10596 | D:7      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 40/40 MP: 14/14
 11130 | D:8      | Found Zuraemuq's Antique Armour Shop.
 12857 | D:9      | Noticed Grum
 13176 | D:9      | Killed Grum
 13191 | D:9      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 13269 | D:9      | Found an ornate altar of the Wu Jian Council.
 13275 | D:9      | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
 13275 | D:9      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
 13277 | D:9      | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru.
 13279 | D:9      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
 13280 | D:9      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
 13589 | D:9      | You fall through a shaft!
 13589 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 13633 | D:9      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 43/46 MP: 10/15
 13721 | D:9      | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
 14267 | D:10     | Noticed a manticore
 14288 | D:10     | Noticed Sonja
 15247 | D:11     | Noticed a gargoyle
 15262 | D:11     | Killed a gargoyle
 15262 | D:11     | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
 15771 | D:11     | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 15878 | D:11     | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 15881 | D:11     | Killed a two-headed ogre
 15881 | D:11     | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth
 15881 | D:11     | Reached skill level 10 in Unarmed Combat
 16313 | D:11     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 34/50 MP: 14/16
 16427 | D:11     | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 16564 | D:11     | Learned a level 1 spell: Apportation
 16806 | D:11     | Reached **** piety under Dithmenos
 16998 | D:12     | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
 17039 | D:12     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 17107 | D:12     | Found Pakkeaps's Book Shop.

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 |
---------------+----------------------------------+-----
Stealth        |     3     4     5  6  7  9 10    | 10.5
Spellcasting   |        1           2  3          |  3.0
Unarmed Combat |           4     5  6  7  9 10    | 10.6
Dodging        |              5     6  7  8  9 10 | 10.1
Fighting       |                 4     5  6  7    |  7.7
Hexes          |                    2             |  2.1
Invocations    |                       2  3  4    |  4.5
Evocations     |                             3    |  3.5

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Unarmed           |    69 |   218 |   443 |   266 ||   996
       Bite              |     8 |    21 |    44 |    32 ||   105
       Punch             |     1 |     7 |    16 |    10 ||    34
 Cast: Confusing Touch   |       |       |    34 |    32 ||    66
Invok: Shadow Step       |       |       |     7 |       ||     7
  Use: Scroll            |       |    10 |     3 |     4 ||    17
       Potion            |       |     1 |     1 |     3 ||     5
 Stab: Sleeping          |    12 |    15 |    30 |    14 ||    71
       Distracted        |       |     1 |     1 |     1 ||     3
       Confused          |       |       |    21 |    19 ||    40
  Eat: Chunk             |     7 |    11 |    14 |     7 ||    39
Armor: Skin              |     2 |     5 |    25 |    21 ||    53
Dodge: Dodged            |    44 |   138 |   309 |   222 ||   713

Zot Zealot

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Post Wednesday, 3rd April 2019, 12:46

Re: FeMo of Dith: book shop

I really like Passage of Golubria and Passwall on stabbers for well-planned stealth stabs. Training some earth & transmutations is not necessarily a bad idea because you'll eventually want Statue Form.
I'd train more Evocations, so that I have something to deal with enemies I can't stab. You can also work on other methods for taking out those enemies.
I'd go to lair very soon, hexers have an easy time in lair.
You will need to come up with a strategy for Hydra's, because a felid typically doesn't want to spend a turn next to a moving hydra, even if it's confused. Running away works, as do Petrify, Paralysis, sleep-stabbing (is risky), and wands of scattershot (almost always one-shot hydra's when adjacent.)

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Post Wednesday, 3rd April 2019, 15:10

Re: FeMo of Dith: book shop

Memorizing Beastly Appendage would be an immediate improvement, it's castable right now and improves your melee damage. I would also immediately pick up Sticks to Snakes, as it is an incredibly powerful summon for only a level 2 spell (assuming you don't mind using summons). I'd then immediately train 3 or so levels in Transmutations to bring down the failure rate on the cheap. You'll want to grab all the arrows and javelins on cleared levels, of course, to fuel the spell.

Confuse is a pretty powerful spell too. After the above, I'd get Hexes to about 5, to improve Confuse cheaply.

After that, the improvements available to you are expensive, such as training more Fighting and UC. I don't recommend that, because you have a couple of better paths available. Invisibility is a sizable investment, but the payoff is huge. It enhances stealth so much that it all but guarantees sleep stabs. Of course it only works on enemies that don't see invisible, but most enemies don't, and with Felid speed you can run away from the ones that do. As an added bonus, Confuse will get more spell power as you train Hexes.

The other path is Transmutations. I don't know whether Ice Form or Blade Hands is better for Felids, but I know that they're both really good. Blade Hands increases your base damage by 17, which is massive. Ice Form increases your damage by less (base increased by 7 and becomes freezing branded), but it increases your HP and AC at the cost of some EV in a way that might be a good trade. As an added bonus, Sticks to Snakes will get more spell power as you train Transmutations.

Of course nothing is stopping you from doing one after the other, but in the short term you'll need to focus all your experience on one path in order to get a big hitter spell online as soon as possible.

Basically what I'm saying is that the spells you already have are more useful than the spells in the shop. :)
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Post Wednesday, 3rd April 2019, 16:44

Re: FeMo of Dith: book shop

Welp, I was just zapped into the Abyss by Sonja. I think I'll soon be a tombstone. Thanks for the advice. I was not sure whether to bother with Transmutations since I am mostly a Confusing Touch stabber at this point, but it sounds necessary. Think I'll check the wiki now and spoil the Abyss a little.

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Post Wednesday, 3rd April 2019, 16:57

Re: FeMo of Dith: book shop

Do javelins still work with S2S?

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Post Wednesday, 3rd April 2019, 17:06

Re: FeMo of Dith: book shop

I'll let you know when I find a javelin! I escaped the Abyss after losing only one life!!! I'll be extra-disappointed when I lose this game. I am getting too attached.
Edit: And I got even with Sonya too RIP
Edit2: Did not buy any books. I was trying to find enough $ to buy the Book of Burglary when I found a jewelry shop. Damn overchoice:
  Code:
Welcome to Fuminla's Jewellery Emporium! What would you like to do?
 a -  480 gold   an uncursed amulet of rage (unknown)
 b -   24 gold   a cursed -3 ring of strength (unknown)
 c -  322 gold   the ring of Oruwiv {Str+3 SInv}
 d -  300 gold   an uncursed ring of protection from magic (unknown)
 e -  360 gold   an uncursed amulet of the acrobat (unknown)
 f -  560 gold   a ring of the Octopus King {rC+ AC+1 EV+1 Str+1 Int+1 Dex+1}
 g -  252 gold   a +3 ring of evasion (unknown)
 h -  314 gold   the ring of Diatufaf {Str+2 SInv}
 i -  360 gold   an uncursed amulet of regeneration (unknown)
 j -  188 gold   a +3 amulet of reflection (unknown)
 k -  240 gold   an uncursed ring of resist corrosion (unknown)
 l -  360 gold   an uncursed amulet of the acrobat (unknown)
 m -  360 gold   an uncursed amulet of the gourmand (unknown)
You have 930 gold pieces.

The cursed -3 ring is strength is a real steal.
There is also a scroll shop. Gah. Book or Jewellry? I hate shopping in real life too BTW.

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Post Wednesday, 3rd April 2019, 17:58

Re: FeMo of Dith: book shop

cerealjynx wrote:Do javelins still work with S2S?

No... Current S2S only works with arrows.
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Post Wednesday, 3rd April 2019, 18:53

Re: FeMo of Dith: book shop

It's nice to know that you can buy a ring of protection from magic; getting to MR+++ is extremely desirable when you do Orc / Vaults / Depths. I wouldn't buy any of this jewelry until there is a problem it solves. You should get innate rC+ soon, so the ring of the Octopus King isn't really worth it either.

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Post Wednesday, 3rd April 2019, 19:27

Re: FeMo of Dith: book shop

Looks like you don't have any amulet at the moment. I would probably buy the amulet of rage, but the amulet of the acrobat is also a good option. It depends on your feelings about berserk.

None of the rings in that shop are very impressive and your current rings are already decent.

Siegurt wrote:No... Current S2S only works with arrows.

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Post Thursday, 4th April 2019, 12:39

Re: FeMo of Dith: book shop

Meh. Killed by Rupert and no lives left. Got sloppy. Don't play DCSS before your morning coffee.
On the spell library inventory page (shift-I), spells are marked with either plus or minus signs. What do these mean? There is in-game help for spell memorization, but not for spell inventory.
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Post Thursday, 4th April 2019, 12:56

Re: FeMo of Dith: book shop

looks like that + marks which spell you cast last
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Post Thursday, 4th April 2019, 13:38

Re: FeMo of Dith: book shop

BrendanD wrote:Meh. Killed by Rupert and no lives left. Got sloppy. Don't play DCSS before your morning coffee.
On the spell library inventory page (shift-I), spells are marked with either plus or minus signs. What do these mean? There is in-game help for spell memorization, but not for spell inventory.
Thanks!

For future reference, trying to kill Rupert hand-to-hand is one of the surest ways to die. He is way more dangerous than other uniques of his depth because he can not only paralyze you, but also make himself super fast, strong, and tanky by berserking. The best approach is generally to walk away from him, and maybe even skip the floor he appears on. Another good approach, if he generates without an axe, is to pump out summons (such as with Sticks to Snakes or Summon Ice Beast) to swarm him while keeping your distance, since he has no aoe or smite abilities.

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