How to see what killed you?


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Post Thursday, 28th February 2019, 05:44

How to see what killed you?

How can I see what killed me? Last Char was at full 50 health and died in one turn and it says I took 16 Damage.
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Post Thursday, 28th February 2019, 06:28

Re: How to see what killed you?

DeepDeath wrote:How can I see what killed me? Last Char was at full 50 health and died in one turn and it says I took 16 Damage.

Click on your signature and scroll down to the recent games.
Unfortunately, CAO doesn't update those player pages as quickly as CKO does so consider changing servers if you can.
Another option is to go directly into your morgue folder on CAO, which is: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/DeepDeath/

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Post Thursday, 28th February 2019, 07:09

Re: How to see what killed you?

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Post Thursday, 28th February 2019, 15:36

Re: How to see what killed you?

also you can watch replay of your games in IRC (##crawl) or Discord rouglikes channel, type !lg DeepDeath HOFE -tv
(tho replay will be in ASCII)
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Post Thursday, 28th February 2019, 16:16

Re: How to see what killed you?

I looked it over and it says I took 6 damage before the 16. That's not even half of 50. (50 -16 -6 = -11) must be that new math there teaching now ;)

Ijyb zaps a wand.
The bolt of acid hits you! You are splashed with acid! The acid burns!
It is a wand of acid (6). Ijyb zaps a wand. The bolt of acid hits you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
You are splashed with acid! The acid burns!
You die...

I keep dying, and I can't figure out what is doing the damage.

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Post Thursday, 28th February 2019, 17:20

Re: How to see what killed you?

DeepDeath wrote:
Ijyb zaps a wand.
The bolt of acid hits you!
You are splashed with acid! The acid burns!
It is a wand of acid (6). Ijyb zaps a wand. The bolt of acid hits you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
You are splashed with acid! The acid burns!
You die...

I keep dying, and I can't figure out what is doing the damage.

If you look up slightly in the log you'll see that he managed to hit you twice with the wand of acid after you did your last attack, a spear attack with no polearms skill takes slightly more than one standard monster turn. He got two turns after your last attack, and used both of them to zap you with the wand, the first wand attack clearly did more damage than the second (which was enough to finish you) (Bolded relevant bits for ease of noticing)
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Post Thursday, 28th February 2019, 18:23

Re: How to see what killed you?

"Wand of acid (6)" means it was a wand with 6 charges, not that you took 6 damage from it.
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Post Thursday, 28th February 2019, 18:35

Re: How to see what killed you?

Yup, for mysterious reasons, to know how much damage you got, you must look at the exclamation marks.

  Code:
You are splashed with acid! The acid burns!


There is only one !, so it's from 7 to 17 points.

From the learndb:

If you hit something and the message ends with !, that means you did 7-17 damage. !!: 18-35. !!!: 36-71. !!!!: 72-143. !!!!!: 144-287. !!!!!!: 288+; and so on. Yikes!
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Post Thursday, 28th February 2019, 19:03

Re: How to see what killed you?

Shtopit wrote:Yup, for mysterious reasons, to know how much damage you got, you must look at the exclamation marks.

  Code:
You are splashed with acid! The acid burns!


There is only one !, so it's from 7 to 17 points.

From the learndb:

If you hit something and the message ends with !, that means you did 7-17 damage. !!: 18-35. !!!: 36-71. !!!!: 72-143. !!!!!: 144-287. !!!!!!: 288+; and so on. Yikes!


I wonder if creating a browser extension to automatically convert the mysterious symbols into known data would be convincing enough to add an option to crawl to simply display more values.

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Post Thursday, 28th February 2019, 19:07

Re: How to see what killed you?

We've been asking for a straightforward values display for ages, I wouldn't count on it. I'd use it if you made one though.
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Post Thursday, 28th February 2019, 19:10

I would prefer if the exclamation point represented a percentage of total HP. Something like:
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.      = 0-5%
!      = 5-20%
!!     = 20-35%
!!!    = 40-55%
!!!!   = 55-70%
!!!!!  = 70-85%
!!!!!! = 85-100%

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Post Thursday, 28th February 2019, 23:32

Re: How to see what killed you?

That wouldn't be sufficient, since you can also attack monsters for more damage than their health (and the player can be overkilled as well, although only once). We're going to need to go to !!!!!!!

More seriously, to the OP, the best thing is to check the message history in the morgue as others already have. Here's the full message history:


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Aim: Crazy Yiuf, wielding a quarterstaff of chaos and wearing a glowing cloak
You reach to attack! You hit Crazy Yiuf but do no damage.
Crazy Yiuf yells, "Cod! Peeping sallow pizzabubble."
Attack whom?
Press: ? - help, Dir - move target cursor, f/p - Crazy Yiuf
Aim: Crazy Yiuf, wielding a quarterstaff of chaos and wearing a glowing cloak
You reach to attack! You hit Crazy Yiuf but do no damage.
Attack whom?
Press: ? - help, Dir - move target cursor, f/p - Crazy Yiuf
Aim: Crazy Yiuf, wielding a quarterstaff of chaos and wearing a glowing cloak
You reach to attack! You barely miss Crazy Yiuf.
Attack whom?
Press: ? - help, Dir - move target cursor, f/p - Crazy Yiuf
Aim: Crazy Yiuf, wielding a quarterstaff of chaos and wearing a glowing cloak
You reach to attack! You closely miss Crazy Yiuf. Ijyb zaps a wand.
The bolt of acid hits you! You are splashed with acid! The acid burns!
It is a wand of acid (6). Ijyb zaps a wand. The bolt of acid hits you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
You are splashed with acid! The acid burns!
You die...


Note you can edit your RC to have it save more lines of message history if you want to see further back. You were hit twice by the acid wand, and made 4 attacks, all of which resulted in zero damage. That's crawl combat for you :)

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Post Friday, 1st March 2019, 05:18

Re: How to see what killed you?

Basically you should have trained/used magic, a well deserved death IMHO.
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