Crystal Guardian & War Gargoyle - Advice?


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Post Sunday, 13th January 2019, 00:24

Crystal Guardian & War Gargoyle - Advice?

what to do here? I don't have any spells to hurt the guardian. The fact its with a war gargoyle and a hungry ghost makes it worse.

Teleport and dive down until I can get LRD castable enough to kill it? Or something else? I want to say use a wand of disintegration, but I'm not sure if it'll be effective. I've not encountered one of these before where I don't have iron shot available...

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.22.1-5-g62c59d9 (webtiles) character file.

delarado the Nimble (Deep Elf Fire Elementalist)   Turns: 23401, Time: 01:50:00

HP:   82/82 (83)    AC: 10    Str:  5    XL:     13   Next: 56%
MP:   36/36         EV: 22    Int: 26    God:    Vehumet [*****.]
Gold: 1050          SH:  5    Dex: 15    Spells: 9/28 levels left

rFire    + + .     SeeInvis .   T - staff of fire
rCold    x . .     Gourm    .   l - +0 buckler
rNeg     . . .     Faith    .   n - +2 robe {MR+}
rPois    .         Spirit   .   o - +2 helmet
rElec    .         Reflect  .   v - +0 cloak
rCorr    .         Harm     .   A - +1 pair of gloves
MR       ++...                  (no boots)
Stlth    ++........             (no amulet)
HPRegen  0.23/turn              M - ring of magical power
MPRegen  0.25/turn              V - ring of fire

@: no status effects
A: no striking features
a: Renounce Religion


You are on level 11 of the Dungeon.
You worship Vehumet.
Vehumet is extremely pleased with you.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and seen 16 of its levels.

You have collected 1218 gold pieces.
You have spent 168 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Missiles
 x - 3 javelins (quivered)
 z - a tomahawk of returning
 I - 21 sling bullets
Armour
 a - a +2 helmet
 l - a +0 buckler (worn)
 n - a +2 robe of magic resistance (worn)
 o - a +2 helmet (worn)
 v - a +0 cloak (worn)
 w - a +0 robe of resistance
 A - a +1 pair of gloves (worn)
Magical Staves
 g - an uncursed staff of cold
 T - an uncursed staff of fire (weapon)
Jewellery
 h - an uncursed ring of positive energy
 q - an uncursed ring of protection from magic
 B - an uncursed ring of flight
 M - a ring of magical power (left hand)
 S - a ring of fire
 V - a ring of fire (right hand)
Wands
 p - a wand of acid (15)
 G - a wand of digging (14)
 J - a wand of flame (81)
 K - a wand of paralysis (9)
 L - a wand of disintegration (7)
 R - a wand of iceblast (4)
Scrolls
 i - 9 scrolls of remove curse
 k - a scroll of enchant weapon
 m - 2 scrolls of fear
 u - 3 scrolls of magic mapping
 y - 5 scrolls of amnesia
 C - 7 scrolls of teleportation
 F - 3 scrolls of fog
 H - a scroll of immolation
 Q - 3 scrolls of blinking
Potions
 b - 2 potions of might
 d - 2 blue potions
 e - a potion of cancellation
 f - a potion of resistance
 j - 6 potions of ambrosia
 r - 3 potions of heal wounds
 s - 4 potions of brilliance
 t - 3 potions of curing
 D - a potion of invisibility
 E - 2 black potions
 N - 2 metallic purple potions
 P - 2 potions of flight
Miscellaneous
 O - a lightning rod (4/4)
Comestibles
 c - 21 rations
 U - 5 chunks of flesh


   Skills:
 + Level 10.4 Fighting
 - Level 14.0 Dodging
 - Level 2.4 Stealth
 - Level 4.2 Shields
 - Level 8.0 Spellcasting
 + Level 11.0 Conjurations
 + Level 11.4 Fire Magic
 + Level 2.5 Evocations


You have 9 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Flame Tongue          Conj/Fire      #####        1%          1    None
b - Conjure Flame         Conj/Fire      ########     1%          3    None
c - Sticky Flame          Conj/Fire      ########     1%          4    ##.....
d - Fireball              Conj/Fire      ########..   1%          5    ####...
e - Bolt of Fire          Conj/Fire      ########..   2%          6    ######.

Your spell library contains the following spells:

 Spells                   Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
 Conjure Ball Lightning   Conj/Air       #####.....   22%         6    ######.
 Sandblast                Erth           ##....       1%          1    None
 Throw Flame              Conj/Fire      ######       1%          2    None
 Inner Flame              Hex/Fire       ######..     1%          3    None
 Stone Arrow              Conj/Erth      #####.       1%          3    None
 Irradiate                Conj/Tmut      #####.....   4%          5    ####...
 Infusion                 Chrm           ##..         5%          1    None
 Passwall                 Tmut/Erth      ##......     9%          2    None
 Shroud of Golubria       Chrm/Tloc      ##........   9%          2    None
 Song of Slaying          Chrm           ##......     9%          2    None
 Regeneration             Chrm/Necr      ##........   17%         3    None
 Spectral Weapon          Hex/Chrm       ##......     17%         3    None
 Lee's Rapid Deconstruct  Erth           ##........   36%         5    ####...
 Petrify                  Tmut/Erth      ##......     50%         4    ##.....
 Hydra Form               Tmut           ##........   100%        6    ######.
 Statue Form              Tmut/Erth      ##.......    100%        6    ######.
 Dragon Form              Tmut           ##........   100%        7    #######


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (11/15)            Temple (0/1) D:7            Lair (5/6) D:10
  Swamp (0/4) Lair:2       Spider (0/4) Lair:2        Slime (0/5) Lair:5
   Orc: D:9-12     

Altars:
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Kikubaaqudgha
Qazlal
Sif Muna
Vehumet
Xom
Yredelemnul
Jiyva

Shops:
D:5 ((   D:7 *

Message History

Things that are here:
a giant spiked club; a giant club; a two-headed ogre corpse
You butcher the two-headed ogre corpse.
U - 5 chunks of flesh (gained 1)
Things that are here:
a giant spiked club; a giant club
Things that are here:
a giant spiked club; a giant club
x - 3 javelins (gained 1); W - a scroll of identify
As you read the scroll of identify, it crumbles to dust.
P - 2 potions of flight
As you open the door, it creaks loudly!
A war gargoyle, a crystal guardian and a hungry ghost come into view.
The hungry ghost misses you.
Found four items.
There is an open door here.
Press: ? - help, v - describe, . - travel, g - get item
A metal-bound book.
The floor.
Saving game... please wait.

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You can see a crystal guardian (wandering), a war gargoyle and a hungry ghost.

Vanquished Creatures
  Josephine (D:11)
  A fire dragon (Lair:4)
  Erolcha (D:9)
  4 hydras
  3 catoblepae
  Erica (D:8)
  2 two-headed ogres
  A death yak (Lair:5)
  An unseen horror (D:11)
  An oklob plant (Lair:5)
  6 elephants (Lair:3)
  A black mamba (Lair:2)
  A gargoyle (D:10)
  8 spiny frogs
  9 komodo dragons
  A troll (D:9)
  11 blink frogs
  A hornet (D:11)
  6 hippogriffs
  A spriggan (Lair:1)
  3 wraiths (D:11)
  2 wyverns
  20 yaks
  2 basilisks
  2 hungry ghosts
  Grum (D:11)
  11 water moccasins
  11 porcupines
  3 ice beasts
  8 orc warriors
  15 wolves
  6 phantoms
  A black bear (D:8)
  2 sky beasts
  3 ogres
  A necrophage (D:8)
  11 crocodiles
  2 centaurs (D:10)
  2 big kobolds
  19 bullfrogs
  An elf zombie (D:6)
  7 scorpions
  4 killer bees (D:9)
  16 wights
  7 electric eels (D:7)
  2 howler monkeys
  2 centaur zombies
  3 hounds
  2 quasits
  2 bullfrog zombies
  7 orc priests
  4 jellies
  3 human skeletons
  4 human zombies (D:8)
  2 iguanas
  9 orc wizards
  8 worker ants
  A killer bee zombie (D:7)
  2 hound skeletons
  4 mummies (D:8)
  A howler monkey skeleton (D:11)
  A worker ant zombie (D:10)
  A gnoll (D:1)
  17 adders
  3 shadow imps
  An ooze (D:4)
  An adder skeleton (D:4)
  3 worms
  2 dart slugs (D:3)
  4 leopard geckos
  58 orcs
  10 bats
  7 giant cockroaches
  7 goblins
  2 hobgoblins (D:2)
  10 jackals
  8 quokkas
  A ball python (D:1)
  4 frilled lizards
  2 gnoll zombies (D:2)
  11 kobolds
  4 orc skeletons (D:6)
  A quokka skeleton (D:8)
  A quokka zombie (D:5)
  9 rats
  A butterfly (Lair:3)
  6 plants
452 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  6 fungi
  3 plants
9 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 461 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | delarado the Deep Elf Fire Elementalist began the quest for
                  | the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 10/10 MP: 6/6
     2 | D:1      | Noticed a demonspawn
     3 | D:1      | Noticed a centaur
     5 | D:1      | Noticed an octopode
     5 | D:1      | Noticed a halfling
     7 | D:1      | Noticed a ghoul
     7 | D:1      | Noticed an ogre
     9 | D:1      | Noticed a minotaur
     9 | D:1      | Noticed a felid
    11 | D:1      | Noticed a spriggan
    11 | D:1      | Noticed a vine stalker
    13 | D:1      | Noticed a troll
    13 | D:1      | Noticed a merfolk
    15 | D:1      | Noticed a human
    17 | D:1      | Noticed a draconian
    19 | D:1      | Noticed a tengu
    19 | D:1      | Noticed a dwarf
    21 | D:1      | Noticed a naga
    23 | D:1      | Noticed a vampire
    23 | D:1      | Noticed a demigod
    25 | D:1      | Noticed an elf
    25 | D:1      | Noticed a formicid
    27 | D:1      | Noticed a gargoyle
   183 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 15/15 MP: 0/8
  1181 | D:2      | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
  1191 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 19/19 MP: 6/9
  1412 | D:2      | Learned a level 3 spell: Conjure Flame
  1598 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 24/24 MP: 4/10
  1655 | D:2      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  2112 | D:2      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
  2112 | D:2      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
  2159 | D:2      | Became a worshipper of Vehumet
  2928 | D:3      | Learned a level 4 spell: Sticky Flame
  3312 | D:3      | Reached * piety under Vehumet
  3312 | D:3      | Offered knowledge of Shock by Vehumet.
  3693 | D:4      | Noticed a phantom
  3798 | D:4      | Killed a phantom
  3798 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Fire Magic
  3798 | D:4      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 25/28 MP: 6/11
  3914 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 32/32 MP: 3/12
  4216 | D:4      | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations
  4269 | D:4      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
  4537 | D:4      | Noticed an orc warrior
  4553 | D:4      | Killed an orc warrior
  4714 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 36/36 MP: 6/13
  5884 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  5951 | D:5      | Found Zemopawn's Antique Weapon Shop.
  6274 | D:5      | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
  6725 | D:5      | Found Ceadoluo's Antique Weapon Shoppe.
  6843 | D:5      | You fall through a shaft for 3 floors!
  6876 | D:8      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 41/41 MP: 7/14
  6938 | D:7      | Reached ** piety under Vehumet
  7047 | D:6      | Offered knowledge of Magic Dart by Vehumet.
  8119 | D:6      | Offered knowledge of Throw Frost by Vehumet.
  8173 | D:6      | Learned a level 5 spell: Fireball
  8234 | D:7      | Got a transparent flail
  8235 | D:7      | Identified the +11 flail "Yblulobeqe" {venom, *Slow +Inv
                  | rN+ Dex+5} (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon)
  8424 | D:7      | Reached *** piety under Vehumet
  8460 | D:7      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 45/45 MP: 7/15
  8784 | D:7      | Offered knowledge of Fulminant Prism by Vehumet.
  8784 | D:7      | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
  8784 | D:7      | Reached skill level 3 in Dodging
  8788 | D:7      | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
  9180 | D:7      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  9764 | D:7      | Reached skill level 4 in Dodging
  9943 | D:7      | Found Ofyfogaw's Assorted Antiques.
  9979 | D:7      | Bought a tourmaline ring for 140 gold pieces
  9979 | D:7      | Bought a scroll labeled GYKLUH GOMAX for 28 gold pieces
 10223 | D:8      | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 10259 | D:8      | Killed a two-headed ogre
 10259 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 10567 | D:8      | Reached **** piety under Vehumet
 10596 | D:8      | Reached skill level 6 in Dodging
 10601 | D:8      | Noticed Erica
 10953 | D:8      | Offered knowledge of Iskenderun's Mystic Blast by Vehumet.
 11021 | D:8      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
 11078 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 55/55 MP: 5/16
 11368 | D:8      | Found a white marble altar of Elyvilon.
 11775 | D:8      | Found an opulent altar of Gozag.
 11781 | D:8      | Found a hazy altar of Hepliaklqana.
 11947 | D:8      | Killed Erica
 12025 | D:8      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
 12447 | D:8      | Reached skill level 7 in Dodging
 12609 | D:8      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
 12880 | D:9      | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
 13429 | D:9      | Noticed Erolcha
 13432 | D:9      | Killed Erolcha
 13432 | D:9      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
 13432 | D:9      | Reached skill level 8 in Dodging
 13906 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 14099 | D:10     | Noticed a gargoyle
 14360 | D:10     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 63/63 MP: 23/23
 14600 | D:10     | Reached skill level 9 in Dodging
 14633 | D:10     | Reached ***** piety under Vehumet
 14633 | D:10     | Offered knowledge of Bolt of Fire by Vehumet.
 14641 | D:10     | Learned a level 6 spell: Bolt of Fire
 14697 | D:10     | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 14718 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 14895 | Lair:1   | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
 15095 | Lair:1   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 15100 | Lair:1   | Killed a six-headed hydra
 15655 | Lair:2   | Noticed an eight-headed hydra
 15673 | Lair:2   | Killed an eight-headed hydra
 15673 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 16186 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 11 in Dodging
 16511 | Lair:2   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
 16690 | Lair:2   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
 17420 | Lair:3   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 73/73 MP: 23/26
 17617 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 12 in Dodging
 18377 | Lair:3   | Offered knowledge of Airstrike by Vehumet.
 18933 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 13 in Dodging
 19281 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 10 in Fire Magic
 19412 | Lair:4   | Noticed a seven-headed hydra
 19415 | Lair:4   | Killed a seven-headed hydra
 19485 | Lair:4   | Found a labyrinth entrance.
 19657 | Lair:4   | Noticed a catoblepas
 19707 | Lair:4   | Killed a catoblepas
 20268 | Lair:4   | Noticed a fire dragon
 20280 | Lair:4   | Killed a fire dragon
 20492 | Lair:5   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 20492 | Lair:5   | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
 20595 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations
 21051 | Lair:5   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 64/81 MP: 24/27
 21446 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 21864 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 14 in Dodging
 22777 | D:11     | Noticed Josephine
 22780 | D:11     | Killed Josephine
 22780 | D:11     | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
 22871 | D:11     | Noticed Grum
 22874 | D:11     | Killed Grum
 23029 | D:11     | Offered knowledge of Conjure Ball Lightning by Vehumet.
 23400 | D:11     | Noticed a crystal guardian
 23400 | D:11     | Noticed a war gargoyle

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 |
---------------+----------------------------------------+-----
Conjurations   |  2     3  4     5  7  9          10 11 | 11.0
Fire Magic     |     4     5     6  7  9          10 11 | 11.4
Fighting       |                          3  5  8  9 10 | 10.4
Dodging        |                          6  8 11 13 14 | 14.0
Shields        |                          3  4          |  4.2
Spellcasting   |                             7  8       |  8.0
Evocations     |                                      2 |  2.5
Stealth        |                                        |  2.4

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Dagger            |       |    34 |    32 |       |       ||    66
       Staff             |       |       |       |     6 |    26 ||    32
 Fire: Hunting sling     |    10 |    64 |   137 |    52 |       ||   263
Throw: Javelin           |     7 |     9 |       |    50 |    18 ||    84
       Tomahawk          |       |       |       |     2 |     2 ||     4
 Cast: Flame Tongue      |    51 |    94 |   152 |   200 |    35 ||   532
       Conjure Flame     |       |     4 |     9 |     1 |       ||    14
       Sticky Flame      |       |       |    38 |   116 |    19 ||   173
       Fireball          |       |       |    20 |    49 |     9 ||    78
       Bolt of Fire      |       |       |       |    20 |    32 ||    52
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |     3 |    16 |       ||    19
       Lightning rod     |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
  Use: Scroll            |     2 |     4 |     8 |    13 |     2 ||    29
       Potion            |       |       |     2 |       |       ||     2
  Eat: Chunk             |     2 |     9 |    21 |    40 |    17 ||    89
       Ration            |       |       |     4 |     5 |     1 ||    10
Armor: Robe              |     1 |    10 |    26 |    46 |     1 ||    84
Dodge: Dodged            |    10 |    42 |    74 |   139 |    12 ||   277
Block: Buckler           |       |       |       |    23 |     6 ||    29

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Post Sunday, 13th January 2019, 01:34

Re: Crystal Guardian & War Gargoyle - Advice?

I would just leave, teleport away if need be, but otherwise, just don't bother with them, they're not worth your time to try to kill, or even come back for (although if you do encounter then when they aren't a problem to kill later, then by all means, do so, but they aren't worth fretting over) In short, bravely run away, sir robin!
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Post Sunday, 13th January 2019, 11:20

Re: Crystal Guardian & War Gargoyle - Advice?

Spend a blink scroll and then go to D:12. War Gargoyles are crazy dangerous,(its shrapnel does 3d27!) and the Crystal Golem will frequently fire trough other monsters with its insane elemental bolt that also bounces. Unless you use ?Blink you have a high chance of dying.

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