Noob Player Seeking Vault Assistance for MiBe


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Lair Larrikin

Posts: 15

Joined: Wednesday, 20th June 2018, 00:48

Post Wednesday, 20th June 2018, 01:42

Noob Player Seeking Vault Assistance for MiBe

Hey guys. I'm new to DC:SS. I've seen a couple playthroughs and have played about 40 runs.

This is my first time getting any runes and I have 2! The Barnacled Rune and the Snake Rune. I'm about to go into the Vaults for the first time and want some advice. I'm just going for a standard 3 rune clear. Thought I would get that under my belt first.

I'm standing just outside the Vaults and want to know if there is anything I should change before I go inside and general strategy/tips for my build as it sits.

Here is my character file.
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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.21.1 (tiles) character file.

Hutchinman the Slayer (Minotaur Berserker)         Turns: 50123, Time: 03:35:41

Health: 190/190    AC: 29    Str: 39    XL:     19   Next: 21%
Magic:  8/23       EV: 16    Int:  4    God:    Trog [******]
Gold:   2439       SH:  2    Dex: 13    Spells: 25/25 levels left

rFire    . . .     SeeInvis +   (no weapon)
rCold    x . .     Gourm    .   (no shield)
rNeg     + . .     Faith    .   Q - +6 plate armour {MR+}
rPois    .         Spirit   .   (helmet restricted)
rElec    +         Reflect  +   B - scarf {repulsion}
rCorr    .         Harm     .   x - +2 pair of gloves
MR       +++..                  F - +0 pair of boots
Stlth    ..........             A - +2 amulet of reflection
HPRegen  0.41/turn              N - ring of Vusen {rElec rC- MR+ Str+9 SInv}
MPRegen  0.18/turn              P - ring "Sinoeq" {rN+ Dex+3 SInv Stlth+}

@: repel missiles
A: retaliatory headbutt, horns 2
}: 2/15 runes: serpentine, barnacled
a: Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Burn Spellbooks, Renounce Religion


You are on level 14 of the Dungeon.
You worship Trog.
Trog is exalted by your worship.
You are very hungry.

You have visited 6 branches of the dungeon, and seen 32 of its levels.
You have also visited: Ice Cave.

You have collected 3427 gold pieces.
You have spent 988 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 b - the +5 quarterstaff of Shame {holy, Dex+3}
   (Trog gifted it to you on level 4 of the Snake Pit)   
   
   It has been blessed by the Shining One to cause great damage to the undead
   and demons.
   
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
 h - the +3 demon whip of an ice cave {drain, rN+ Dex+3}
   (Trog gifted it to you on level 2 of the Snake Pit)   
   
   A truly terrible weapon, it drains the life of those it strikes.
   
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
   It protects you from negative energy.
 q - a +3 fustibalus of freezing
 L - a +9 antimagic eveningstar
 Z - the +4 hunting sling "Ijenu" {speed, Dex+3}
   (Trog gifted it to you on level 4 of the Shoals)   
   
   Attacks with this weapon are significantly faster.
   
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
Missiles
 p - 473 sling bullets
Armour
 l - +0 storm dragon scales
 n - +0 swamp dragon scales
 t - the +5 plate armour of Exiagac {+Inv Regen+ Int+3 Stlth+}
   (You found it on level 2 of the Shoals)   
   
   It affects your intelligence (+3).
   It lets you turn invisible.
   It increases your rate of regeneration.
   It makes you more stealthy.
 x - a +2 pair of gloves (worn)
 B - a scarf of repulsion (worn)
 F - a +0 pair of boots (worn)
 I - quicksilver dragon scales
 Q - a +6 plate armour of magic resistance (worn)
 R - the +1 robe "Wupos" {+Blink rPois}
   (You found it on level 9 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It protects you from poison.
   It lets you blink.
 S - a +0 shield of protection
 V - a +2 shield of reflection
Jewellery
 f - an uncursed amulet of regeneration
 A - a +2 amulet of reflection (around neck)
 G - an uncursed ring of ice
 H - the ring of Wisyso Dota {*Contam EV+2 Str+5 Int+2}
   (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon)   
   
   [ring of evasion]
   
   It affects your evasion (+2).
   It affects your strength (+5).
   It affects your intelligence (+2).
   It causes magical contamination when unequipped.
 K - an uncursed ring of resist corrosion
 N - the ring of Vusen (left hand) {rElec rC- MR+ Str+9 SInv}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 12 of the Dungeon)   
   
   [ring of see invisible]
   
   It affects your strength (+9).
   It makes you vulnerable to cold.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It lets you see invisible.
 P - the ring "Sinoeq" (right hand) {rN+ Dex+3 SInv Stlth+}
   (You took it off a merfolk on level 4 of the Shoals)   
   
   [ring of see invisible]
   
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It lets you see invisible.
   It makes you more stealthy.
 T - an uncursed ring of positive energy
 U - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
 X - an uncursed ring of protection from magic
Wands
 a - a wand of polymorph (28)
 y - a wand of acid (42)
 D - a wand of paralysis (19)
 O - a wand of digging (17)
Scrolls
 d - 4 scrolls of immolation
 j - 6 scrolls of fog
 k - 4 scrolls of identify
 m - a scroll of enchant weapon
 r - 2 scrolls of brand weapon
 s - 7 scrolls of remove curse
 u - 7 scrolls of magic mapping
 C - a scroll of enchant armour
 E - 18 scrolls of teleportation
 W - 2 scrolls of fear
Potions
 e - 3 potions of haste
 g - 9 potions of curing
 i - 6 potions of agility
 o - 6 potions of resistance
 v - a potion of cancellation
 w - 2 potions of heal wounds
 z - 4 potions of brilliance
 J - 3 potions of flight
 M - 8 potions of lignification
 Y - 4 potions of ambrosia
Comestibles
 c - 33 rations


   Skills:
 + Level 21.6 Fighting
   Level 4.3(11.1) Axes
 - Level 15.3(16.0) Maces & Flails
 - Level 7.0(12.1) Staves
 - Level 10.1 Slings
 + Level 17.4 Armour
 * Level 12.4 Dodging
 - Level 3.3 Stealth
 - Level 15.0 Shields
 - Level 3.5 Spellcasting
 + Level 6.5 Evocations


You have 25 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (1/1) D:5            Lair (6/6) D:8
 Shoals (4/4) Lair:3        Snake (4/4) Lair:4        Slime (0/5) Lair:6
    Orc (2/2) D:12            Elf (0/3) Orc:2        Vaults (0/5) D:14
 Depths (0/5) D:15       

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Wu Jian
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One

Shops:
D:4 ?   D:12 =%:   Orc:1 *   Orc:2 (?*([   Shoals:2 *

Annotations:
Shoals:3 exclusion: downstairs
Shoals:4 BEWARE THESE STAIRS! DISTORTION WIELDER!
Snake:4 exclusion: Roxanne, Roxanne


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You reflexively headbutt those who attack you in melee.
You have a pair of horns on your head.


I"ve also attached a picture of my stash on the ground of stuff that couldn't fit into my inventory of things that have at least some use for your perusal. The list of those items in the picture is as follows:
Spoiler: show
5 Potions of Mutation
1 Wand of Random Effects with 27 charges
1 Ring of Flight
1 +0 Fire Dragon Scales
1 +0 Swamp Dragon Scales
1 +1 Leather Armour of Good Intentions {+Fly rElec MR++ Slay-5}
1 Large Shield
1 Longbow of Fundamental Breach {flame, rC+ rN+++ MR+ Stlth-}
1 +1 Antimagic Quarterstaff
1 +3 Antimagic Morningstar


My main goal right now is to get another 196 gold to get the "a steaming crystal plate armour" in a shop on Orc:1, which costs 2635 gold. I only have 2439 gold.

I have only found one cape item in the game and it is the scarf of repulsion I have equipped. I've only found 2 boot items in the entire game, one +0 pair of boots that I am wearing and one pair of glowing boots in a shop for 232 gold. I have not found a single hat that I can wear.

I trained to level 10 in slings to have a ranged alternative to deal with krakens, sirens, and distortion wielders. Really to deal with anything that I want or have to keep at range. Seriously came in handy in the Shoals level 3 and 4.

Other items of note:
+1 chain mail "Vypsago" {+Fly rElec rF- rC+} (409 gold)
+6 chain mail of Uvasar {+Blink rC+ MR-} (820 gold)
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bel

Cocytus Succeeder

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Post Wednesday, 20th June 2018, 01:52

Re: Noob Player Seeking Vault Assistance for MiBe

Your equipment and skills look fine. Just be careful when walking around with rC-.

Your +6 plate with MR+ is fine for now; you don't need to rush to get the crystal plate armour. I would buy the glowing boots and hope that they're boots of running.

Shoals Surfer

Posts: 276

Joined: Sunday, 6th November 2016, 19:19

Post Wednesday, 20th June 2018, 02:11

Re: Noob Player Seeking Vault Assistance for MiBe

First of all, I would take off that rC- ring, or at least try to mitigate it with an rC+ ring and/or replace the rN+ ring with an rF+ ring.

Vaults tends to have monsters that regularly do fire and cold damage, and rC- and no rF+ can be quite dangerous. You can technically just ring swap to a ring without rC- when you meet a cold-using monster, but I wouldn't risk it since you may forget and end up taking a lot of damage for a small oversight.

Also, Do Vaults 1-4, but do not go down to Vaults:5 until you have at least finished Depths.

The various Vault guard enemies (Convokers, Sentinels and Wardens) have dangerous abilities but have low MR, I would train evocations slightly to like 8-10 and maybe try to use hex-wands (Paralysis, Polymorph ) on them when you see them to minimise the danger (e.g. use a polymorph on a convoker just before he summons a bunch of stuff on you.)

But that's just a minor tip to decrease the danger a little, play a little slower than normal, since it's an area you're not used to, and you'll do fine.
16/26 on the way to GreaterOctopode (Win all backgrounds as an Octopode)

Progress so far : OpFi, OpGl, OpWn, OpAr, OpCK, OpMo, OpBe, OpHu, OpVM, OpAM, OpWr, OpFE, OpEE, OpNe, OpTm, OpSk

Halls Hopper

Posts: 62

Joined: Saturday, 21st September 2013, 06:55

Post Wednesday, 20th June 2018, 03:11

Re: Noob Player Seeking Vault Assistance for MiBe

I would just like to pipe in and say congrats on snagging 2 runes after only 40 games. Well done. Took me like a 100 runs before I even saw one, but then again I play squishy spell slingers. But welcome to the forums and happy crawling, hope this run turns into your first win.

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Fingolfin

Lair Larrikin

Posts: 15

Joined: Wednesday, 20th June 2018, 00:48

Post Wednesday, 20th June 2018, 04:06

Re: Noob Player Seeking Vault Assistance for MiBe

So an update, I've cleared Vaults 1 through 4. I'm off to the depths. I took Vajrapani's advice for the evocation training. Here is an updated character sheet. Note I did swap back to the rC- penalty rings. Let me know if I should change that for the Depths.
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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.21.1 (tiles) character file.

Hutchinman the Slayer (Minotaur Berserker)         Turns: 61330, Time: 04:41:47

Health: 218/218    AC: 31    Str: 41    XL:     21   Next: 50%
Magic:  9/9        EV: 16    Int:  4    God:    Trog [******]
Gold:   2563       SH: 20    Dex: 13    Spells: 27/27 levels left

rFire    . . .     SeeInvis +   L - +9 eveningstar (antimagic)
rCold    x . .     Gourm    .   V - +2 shield {reflect}
rNeg     + . .     Faith    .   Q - +6 plate armour {MR+}
rPois    .         Spirit   .   (helmet restricted)
rElec    +         Reflect  +   B - scarf {repulsion}
rCorr    .         Harm     .   x - +2 pair of gloves
MR       +++..                  h - +1 pair of boots
Stlth    ..........             A - +2 amulet of reflection
HPRegen  0.46/turn              P - ring "Sinoeq" {rN+ Dex+3 SInv Stlth+}
MPRegen  0.11/turn              N - ring of Vusen {rElec rC- MR+ Str+9 SInv}

@: repel missiles
A: retaliatory headbutt, horns 2
}: 2/15 runes: serpentine, barnacled
a: Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Burn Spellbooks, Renounce Religion


You are on level 14 of the Dungeon.
You worship Trog.
Trog is exalted by your worship.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 7 branches of the dungeon, and seen 36 of its levels.
You have also visited: Ice Cave.

You have collected 3938 gold pieces.
You have spent 1375 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 l - the +3 fustibalus of Lomeepra {velocity, Int+5}
   (Trog gifted it to you on level 3 of the Vaults)   
   
   Any stone fired from it inflicts extra damage.
   
   It affects your intelligence (+5).
 q - a +3 fustibalus of freezing
 L - a +9 antimagic eveningstar (weapon)
 S - the +5 quarterstaff of Shame {holy, Dex+3}
   (Trog gifted it to you on level 4 of the Snake Pit)   
   
   It has been blessed by the Shining One to cause great damage to the undead
   and demons.
   
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
Missiles
 p - 503 sling bullets
Armour
 h - a +1 pair of boots (worn)
 x - a +2 pair of gloves (worn)
 B - a scarf of repulsion (worn)
 Q - a +6 plate armour of magic resistance (worn)
 V - a +2 shield of reflection (worn)
Jewellery
 b - the ring of Wisyso Dota {*Contam EV+2 Str+5 Int+2}
   (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon)   
   
   [ring of evasion]
   
   It affects your evasion (+2).
   It affects your strength (+5).
   It affects your intelligence (+2).
   It causes magical contamination when unequipped.
 f - an uncursed amulet of regeneration
 n - the ring "Java Piu" {rF+ EV-3 Str+3}
   (You took it off a vault sentinel on level 4 of the Vaults)   
   
   [ring of evasion]
   
   It affects your evasion (-3).
   It affects your strength (+3).
   It protects you from fire.
 A - a +2 amulet of reflection (around neck)
 F - an uncursed ring of flight
 G - an uncursed ring of ice
 K - an uncursed ring of resist corrosion
 N - the ring of Vusen (right hand) {rElec rC- MR+ Str+9 SInv}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 12 of the Dungeon)   
   
   [ring of see invisible]
   
   It affects your strength (+9).
   It makes you vulnerable to cold.
   It insulates you from electricity.
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
   It lets you see invisible.
 P - the ring "Sinoeq" (left hand) {rN+ Dex+3 SInv Stlth+}
   (You took it off a merfolk on level 4 of the Shoals)   
   
   [ring of see invisible]
   
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
   It protects you from negative energy.
   It lets you see invisible.
   It makes you more stealthy.
 U - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
 X - an uncursed ring of protection from magic
 Z - an uncursed ring of positive energy
Wands
 a - a wand of polymorph (42)
 t - a wand of enslavement (24)
 y - a wand of acid (42)
 D - a wand of paralysis (19)
 H - a wand of scattershot (10)
 I - a wand of flame (140)
 O - a wand of digging (17)
 R - a wand of clouds (5)
Scrolls
 d - 4 scrolls of immolation
 j - 7 scrolls of fog
 k - 3 scrolls of identify
 m - 3 scrolls of enchant weapon
 r - 2 scrolls of brand weapon
 s - 8 scrolls of remove curse
 u - 7 scrolls of magic mapping
 C - 2 scrolls of enchant armour
 E - 15 scrolls of teleportation
 T - a scroll of acquirement
 W - 2 scrolls of fear
Potions
 e - 3 potions of haste
 g - 11 potions of curing
 i - 6 potions of agility
 o - 6 potions of resistance
 v - a potion of cancellation
 w - 2 potions of heal wounds
 z - 7 potions of brilliance
 J - 3 potions of flight
 M - 8 potions of lignification
 Y - 4 potions of ambrosia
Comestibles
 c - 31 rations


   Skills:
 + Level 25.6 Fighting
   Level 4.3(11.1) Axes
 - Level 15.3(16.0) Maces & Flails
 - Level 7.0(12.1) Staves
 - Level 10.1 Slings
 + Level 19.8 Armour
 - Level 12.4 Dodging
 - Level 3.3 Stealth
 - Level 15.0 Shields
 - Level 3.5 Spellcasting
 - Level 10.0 Evocations


You have 27 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (15/15)            Temple (1/1) D:5            Lair (6/6) D:8
 Shoals (4/4) Lair:3        Snake (4/4) Lair:4        Slime (0/5) Lair:6
    Orc (2/2) D:12            Elf (0/3) Orc:2        Vaults (4/5) D:14
  Crypt (0/3) Vaults:3     Depths (0/5) D:15       

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Wu Jian
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One

Shops:
D:4 ?   D:12 =%:   Orc:1 *   Orc:2 (?*([   Shoals:2 *

Portals:
Trove: Vaults:3 (show slimy rune of Zot)

Annotations:
Shoals:3 exclusion: downstairs
Shoals:4 BEWARE THESE STAIRS! DISTORTION WIELDER!
Snake:4 exclusion: Roxanne, Roxanne


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You reflexively headbutt those who attack you in melee.
You have a pair of horns on your head.


Message History

q - a +3 fustibalus of freezing
l - the +3 fustibalus of Lomeepra {velocity, Int+5}
Items here: [[[[[[[
+0 ice dragon scales; acid dragon scales; +0 swamp dragon scales; +0 fire dragon scales; +0 swamp dragon scales; quicksilver dragon scales; +0 storm dragon scales
There is a gate to the Vaults here.
Items here: ! [[[
the +5 plate armour of Exiagac {+Inv Regen+ Int+3 Stlth+}
the +1 robe "Wupos" {+Blink rPois}
the +1 leather armour of Good Intentions {+Fly rElec MR++ Slay-5}
5 potions of mutation
Items here: )))))) [
the +4 hunting sling "Ijenu" {speed, Dex+3}
the +3 quarterstaff "Beetleslayer" {drain, rF+ MR- Str+8 Dex+2}
the +5 quarterstaff of Shame {holy, Dex+3}
a +0 buckler of poison resistance; a +6 antimagic demon whip
the +3 demon whip of an ice cave {drain, rN+ Dex+3}
a +4 hunting sling of freezing
S - the +5 quarterstaff of Shame {holy, Dex+3}
You eat one of the 32 rations. That ration really hit the spot!
Saving game... please wait.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Mennas (Vaults:3)
  Saint Roka (Snake:4)
  Margery (Vaults:3)
  Vashnia (Snake:2)
  Jorgrun (Snake:4)
  A tentacled monstrosity (Vaults:2)
  Rupert (Lair:4)
  2 krakens (Shoals:4)
  4 nagarajas
  A tengu reaver (Vaults:4)
  Donald (Shoals:3)
  Ilsuiw (Shoals:4)
  Aizul (Snake:1)
  An orc warlord (Vaults:3)
  13 vault wardens
  14 ironheart preservers
  3 very ugly things (Vaults:2)
  4 stone giants
  2 deep elf demonologists (Vaults:3)
  Azrael (Snake:1)
  A deep elf annihilator (Vaults:2)
  5 merfolk javelineers
  6 merfolk impalers
  A minotaur (Shoals:3)
  2 ettins
  4 fire dragons
  Josephine (D:15)
  4 great orbs of eyes
  A deep elf death mage (Vaults:2)
  7 yaktaur captains
  4 ice dragons
  16 vault guards
  2 rakshasas
  5 hydras
  16 naga warriors
  6 anacondas
  8 centaur warriors
  Erica (Lair:2)
  4 merfolk avatars
  2 catoblepae
  3 merfolk aquamancers
  2 death knights (Vaults:4)
  A deep troll shaman (Vaults:3)
  34 two-headed ogres
  An alligator (Snake:1)
  A satyr (Shoals:3)
  3 alligator snapping turtles
  5 death yaks (Lair:3)
  A tengu warrior (D:15)
  25 naga sharpshooters
  12 ogre magi
  Urug (D:13)
  4 shock serpents
  6 deep elf knights
  Nergalle (Orc:2)
  2 salamander mystics
  8 hell knights (Vaults:3)
  A shadow wraith (Vaults:3)
  7 skeletal warriors
  11 sea snakes
  15 deep trolls
  3 unseen horrors
  2 swamp dragons (Snake:1)
  5 wizards
  5 deep elf archers
  9 naga ritualists
  A flayed ghost (Vaults:4)
  14 harpies
  15 ironbrand convokers
  A lindwurm (Lair:6)
  15 salamanders
  10 mana vipers
  8 fauns
  13 orc knights
  5 wolf spiders
  17 manticores
  6 orc sorcerers
  16 ugly things
  16 cyclopes
  2 necromancers (Vaults:3)
  22 deep elf magi
  A glowing shapeshifter (Vaults:3)
  A faun (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
  Joseph (D:8)
  4 merfolk sirens
  56 black mambas
  A guardian serpent (shapeshifter) (D:14)
  17 vault sentinels
  6 guardian serpents
  Maurice (D:8)
  6 water nymphs
  8 elephants
  2 centaur zombies
  The ghost of Hutchinman the Basher, a novice MiBe of Trog (D:6)
  25 naga magi
  7 torpor snails
  7 freezing wraiths
  4 rime drakes
  16 spiny frogs
  9 komodo dragons
  A redback zombie (D:15)
  3 tengu conjurers (D:14)
  29 yaktaurs
  6 ice devils
  A troll (shapeshifter) (D:15)
  29 merfolk
  19 trolls
  7 wind drakes
  A meliai (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
  The ghost of Hutchinman the Basher, an amateur MiBe of Trog (D:4)
  3 meliai (Shoals:3)
  3 polar bears (Lair:3)
  A guardian mummy (Vaults:3)
  11 hornets
  21 blink frogs
  4 tyrant leeches (Lair:6)
  11 slime creatures
  A tengu simulacrum (Vaults:3)
  Prince Ribbit (D:8)
  12 dream sheep
  12 snapping turtles
  17 hippogriffs
  A redback (Lair:6)
  7 water elementals
  4 shadows
  7 wraiths
  31 yaks
  18 wyverns
  Eustachio (D:4)
  A tarantella (shapeshifter) (Vaults:2)
  2 fire elementals (Snake:1)
  4 basilisks
  A golden eye (shapeshifter) (Vaults:4)
  9 vampire mosquitoes
  4 hungry ghosts
  A human simulacrum (Vaults:3)
  A yaktaur simulacrum (Vaults:3)
  Edmund (D:4)
  A deep troll zombie (Vaults:3)
  52 nagas
  8 wargs
  5 hell hounds
  5 swamp worms (Snake:1)
  24 water moccasins
  A soldier ant (D:11)
  38 orc warriors
  8 porcupines
  7 black bears
  A swamp drake (Snake:1)
  8 ice beasts
  A human zombie (Vaults:3)
  A black bear (shapeshifter) (D:15)
  3 sky beasts
  2 phantoms
  52 ogres
  32 centaurs
  39 wolves (Lair:1)
  7 crocodiles
  5 big kobolds
  17 bullfrogs
  A wyvern zombie (D:13)
  A big kobold (shapeshifter) (Vaults:1)
  A wyvern skeleton (D:13)
  A water moccasin skeleton (D:8)
  3 scorpions
  7 wights
  26 killer bees
  4 howler monkeys
  3 electric eels
  A crimson imp (D:6)
  A bullfrog zombie (D:12)
  6 jellies
  12 hounds
  A quasit (D:10)
  23 orc priests
  A gnoll shaman (D:4)
  3 bullfrog skeletons
  5 centaur skeletons
  3 iguanas
  35 orc wizards
  Natasha (thrice) (D:4)
  15 worker ants
  A hound skeleton (D:7)
  A worker ant zombie (D:10)
  9 adders
  7 gnolls
  6 shadow imps
  2 oozes
  An adder skeleton (D:8)
  2 worms (D:2)
  7 leopard geckos
  100 orcs
  8 bats
  6 giant cockroaches
  8 goblins
  15 hobgoblins
  12 jackals
  8 quokkas
  4 frilled lizards
  20 kobolds
  2 leopard gecko skeletons
  7 rats
  A fungus (Lair:6)
  7 plants
  4 tentacles (Shoals:4)
1651 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A fire giant (Vaults:3)
  3 merfolk javelineers (Shoals:4)
  A satyr (Shoals:3)
  A naga sharpshooter (Snake:3)
  2 cyclopes
  A black mamba (Snake:2)
  4 yaktaurs
  A tengu conjurer (D:15)
  A fire elemental (Snake:1)
  2 centaurs
  An orc (Snake:4)
  A bush (Lair:2)
  29 fungi
  49 plants
  19 tentacles (Shoals:4)
116 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 1767 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Hutchinman the Minotaur Berserker began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 19/19 MP: 0/0
   199 | D:1      | Reached skill level 4 in Fighting
   199 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 27/27 MP: 1/1
   460 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 33/33 MP: 2/2
   478 | D:1      | Reached ** piety under Trog
   986 | D:2      | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails
  1109 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 34/41 MP: 3/3
  1655 | D:2      | Found a hazy altar of Hepliaklqana.
  2101 | D:3      | Reached *** piety under Trog
  2370 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 47/47 MP: 4/4
  2470 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  2576 | D:3      | Reached skill level 1 in Stealth
  2846 | D:4      | Found Ypoto's Magic Scroll Shoppe.
  2858 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 45/56 MP: 5/5
  2877 | D:4      | Noticed Hutchinman's ghost (amateur MiBe)
  2885 | D:4      | Killed Hutchinman's ghost
  2885 | D:4      | Reached **** piety under Trog
  2885 | D:4      | Reached skill level 6 in Fighting
  2885 | D:4      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 40/63 MP: 6/6
  3132 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3224 | D:4      | Noticed Natasha
  3243 | D:4      | Killed Natasha
  3263 | D:4      | Noticed Natasha
  3267 | D:4      | Killed Natasha
  3281 | D:4      | Noticed Edmund
  3309 | D:4      | Killed Edmund
  3508 | D:4      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  3643 | D:4      | Found a transporter.
  3643 | D:4      | Found a transporter.
  3649 | D:4      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  3807 | D:4      | Noticed Eustachio
  3831 | D:4      | Noticed Natasha
  3835 | D:4      | Killed Natasha
  3860 | D:4      | Killed Eustachio
  3860 | D:4      | Reached skill level 7 in Fighting
  3860 | D:4      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 71/73 MP: 7/7
  4157 | D:4      | Bought a scroll of teleportation for 33 gold pieces
  4157 | D:4      | Bought a scroll of identify for 22 gold pieces
  4157 | D:4      | Bought a scroll of enchant armour for 82 gold pieces
  4157 | D:4      | Bought a scroll of enchant weapon for 82 gold pieces
  4208 | D:5      | Reached skill level 10 in Maces & Flails
  4912 | D:6      | Noticed Hutchinman's ghost (novice MiBe)
  4999 | D:5      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  5006 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  5343 | D:6      | Reached skill level 8 in Fighting
  5418 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 65/82 MP: 8/8
  5629 | D:6      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
  5681 | D:6      | Killed Hutchinman's ghost
  5681 | D:6      | Reached skill level 9 in Fighting
  6266 | D:6      | You fall through a shaft for 2 floors!
  6942 | D:7      | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
  7149 | D:7      | Found an ornate altar of the Wu Jian Council.
  7183 | D:7      | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
  7183 | D:7      | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru.
  7189 | D:7      | Found an opulent altar of Gozag.
  7191 | D:7      | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
  7194 | D:7      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
  7448 | D:6      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  7720 | D:8      | Noticed Maurice
  7742 | D:8      | Killed Maurice
  7742 | D:8      | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
  7742 | D:8      | Reached skill level 1 in Axes
  7742 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 74/93 MP: 9/9
  8149 | D:8      | Noticed Joseph
  8354 | D:8      | Noticed Prince Ribbit
  8450 | D:8      | Killed Prince Ribbit
  8555 | D:8      | Paralysed by a hornet for 3 turns
  8559 | D:8      | Paralysed by a hornet for 2 turns
  8703 | D:8      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
  8741 | D:8      | Reached skill level 11 in Fighting
  9020 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
  9080 | D:8      | Killed Joseph
  9415 | D:9      | You fall through a shaft for 2 floors!
  9419 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
  9646 | D:10     | Got a blackened leather armour
  9806 | D:9      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
  9808 | D:9      | Reached skill level 12 in Fighting
  9880 | D:9      | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna.
 10006 | D:9      | Got a sheer robe
 10445 | D:10     | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
 10993 | D:11     | Reached XP level 11. HP: 93/105 MP: 10/10
 11032 | D:11     | Reached ***** piety under Trog
 11154 | D:11     | Received a gift from Trog
 12049 | D:12     | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 12438 | D:12     | Killed a two-headed ogre
 12574 | D:12     | Reached skill level 13 in Fighting
 12759 | D:12     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 12959 | D:12     | Found Xist's Book Boutique.
 13062 | D:12     | Found Wode's Jewellery Emporium.
 13062 | D:12     | Found Syhekoz's Food Boutique.
 13089 | D:12     | Bought the ring of Vusen {rElec rC- MR+ Str+9 SInv} for 511 gold pieces
 13308 | D:13     | Noticed a centaur warrior
 13315 | D:13     | Killed a centaur warrior
 13348 | D:13     | Noticed a deep elf mage
 13357 | D:13     | Killed a deep elf mage
 13414 | D:13     | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 13422 | D:13     | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 13430 | D:13     | Killed a two-headed ogre
 13671 | D:13     | Noticed a red ugly thing
 13677 | D:13     | Killed a red ugly thing
 13780 | D:13     | Reached XP level 12. HP: 116/116 MP: 11/11
 13833 | D:13     | Noticed Urug
 13850 | D:13     | Killed Urug
 13884 | D:13     | Identified the +1 robe "Wupos" {+Blink rPois} (You found it on level 9 of the Dungeon)
 13894 | D:13     | Identified the cursed +1 leather armour of Good Intentions {+Fly rElec MR++ Slay-5} (You found it on level 10 of the Dungeon)
 14306 | D:14     | Reached skill level 1 in Slings
 14358 | D:14     | Received a gift from Trog
 14384 | D:14     | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
 14506 | D:15     | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon
 14535 | D:14     | Noticed a centaur warrior
 14543 | D:14     | Killed a centaur warrior
 14543 | D:14     | Reached skill level 5 in Slings
 14923 | D:14     | Noticed a centaur warrior
 14933 | D:14     | Killed a centaur warrior
 15017 | D:14     | Found a gate to the Vaults.
 15017 | D:14     | Noticed a vault guard
 15017 | D:14     | Noticed a vault guard
 15017 | D:14     | Noticed a vault guard
 15017 | D:14     | Noticed a vault guard
 15017 | D:14     | Noticed a vault guard
 15018 | D:14     | Noticed a vault guard
 15018 | D:14     | Noticed a vault guard
 15018 | D:14     | Noticed a vault guard
 15033 | D:14     | Killed a vault guard
 15033 | D:14     | Reached skill level 10 in Slings
 15045 | D:14     | Killed a vault guard
 15045 | D:14     | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
 15051 | D:14     | Killed a vault guard
 15051 | D:14     | Reached skill level 1 in Spellcasting
 15056 | D:14     | Killed a vault guard
 15060 | D:14     | Killed a vault guard
 15060 | D:14     | Reached XP level 13. HP: 111/123 MP: 12/14
 15330 | D:14     | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
 15651 | D:15     | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
 16346 | D:15     | Noticed Josephine
 16358 | D:15     | Killed Josephine
 16391 | D:15     | Reached skill level 10 in Shields
 16875 | D:15     | Noticed a fire dragon
 16883 | D:15     | Killed a fire dragon
 16888 | D:15     | Found a staircase to the Depths.
 17641 | D:4      | Bought a scroll of brand weapon for 220 gold pieces
 17641 | D:4      | Bought a scroll of magic mapping for 38 gold pieces
 17696 | D:4      | Got a brightly glowing ivory ring
 17723 | D:4      | Identified the ring of Wisyso Dota {*Contam EV+2 Str+5 Int+2} (You found it on level 4 of the Dungeon)
 17969 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 18003 | Orc:1    | Found Busoro's Assorted Antiques.
 18056 | Orc:2    | Entered Level 2 of the Orcish Mines
 18056 | Orc:2    | Found Qanennol's Armour Emporium.
 18178 | Orc:1    | Reached XP level 14. HP: 110/130 MP: 16/16
 18871 | Orc:2    | Received a gift from Trog
 18961 | Orc:2    | Received a gift from Trog
 19211 | Orc:1    | Noticed Nergalle
 19464 | Orc:2    | Killed Nergalle
 19469 | Orc:2    | Received a gift from Trog
 19900 | Orc:2    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 19962 | Orc:2    | Received a gift from Trog
 20297 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 15 in Shields
 20308 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 1 in Staves
 20754 | Orc:2    | Found Halor's Magic Scroll Shoppe.
 20754 | Orc:2    | Found Wyubonlu's Antique Weapon Shoppe.
 20788 | Orc:2    | Found Zupykh's Weapon Boutique.
 20797 | Orc:2    | Found Ulisyfel's General Store.
 21005 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 21289 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations
 21387 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 5 in Staves
 21436 | Lair:1   | Received a gift from Trog
 21480 | Lair:2   | Noticed Erica
 22086 | Lair:2   | Killed Erica
 22107 | Lair:2   | Reached XP level 15. HP: 131/137 MP: 19/19
 22789 | Lair:2   | Received a gift from Trog
 23495 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 14 in Fighting
 23497 | Lair:4   | Noticed Rupert
 23518 | Lair:4   | Killed Rupert
 23615 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
 23800 | Lair:4   | Found a frozen archway.
 23818 | IceCv    | Entered an ice cave
 23835 | IceCv    | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
 24539 | Lair:3   | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
 24556 | Lair:3   | Received a gift from Trog
 26064 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 15 in Fighting
 26100 | Lair:5   | Received a gift from Trog
 26200 | Lair:6   | Entered Level 6 of the Lair of Beasts
 26231 | Lair:5   | Found a hide-covered altar of Uskayaw.
 27317 | Lair:6   | Found a runed door.
 27487 | Lair:6   | Paralysed by a hornet for 3 turns
 27871 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 27888 | Lair:6   | Reached XP level 16. HP: 150/150 MP: 6/20
 28010 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 15 in Maces & Flails
 28331 | Lair:6   | Received a gift from Trog
 28823 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 16 in Fighting
 29602 | Shoals:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Shoals
 31721 | Shoals:2 | Got a scorched plate armour
 31732 | Shoals:2 | Identified the +5 plate armour of Exiagac {+Inv Regen+ Int+3 Stlth+} (You found it on level 2 of the Shoals)
 31782 | Shoals:2 | Reached ****** piety under Trog
 31966 | Shoals:2 | Received a gift from Trog
 32016 | Shoals:2 | Found Qagg's Assorted Antiques.
 32127 | Shoals:2 | Reached skill level 17 in Fighting
 32859 | Shoals:3 | Received a gift from Trog
 32870 | Shoals:3 | Found a hide-covered altar of Uskayaw.
 33411 | Shoals:4 | Entered Level 4 of the Shoals
 33700 | Shoals:3 | Noticed Donald
 33720 | Shoals:3 | Killed Donald
 34580 | Shoals:3 | Received a gift from Trog
 34886 | Shoals:3 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 81/163 MP: 7/21
 35609 | Shoals:4 | Reached skill level 18 in Fighting
 36027 | Shoals:4 | Got a transparent platinum ring
 36425 | Shoals:4 | Received a gift from Trog
 36435 | Shoals:4 | Got a dazzling hunting sling {god gift}
 36436 | Shoals:4 | Identified the +4 hunting sling "Ijenu" {speed, Dex+3} (Trog gifted it to you on level 4 of the Shoals)
 36850 | Shoals:4 | Noticed Ilsuiw
 37226 | Shoals:3 | Identified the ring "Sinoeq" {rN+ Dex+3 SInv Stlth+} (You took it off a merfolk on level 4 of the Shoals)
 37252 | Shoals:4 | Killed Ilsuiw
 37252 | Shoals:4 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 37443 | Shoals:4 | Noticed a kraken
 37485 | Shoals:4 | Killed a kraken
 37499 | Shoals:4 | Got a barnacled rune of Zot
 37522 | Shoals:4 | Noticed a kraken
 37540 | Shoals:4 | Killed a kraken
 38204 | Snake:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Snake Pit
 38213 | Snake:1  | Noticed Azrael
 38223 | Snake:1  | Killed Azrael
 38800 | Snake:2  | Noticed Vashnia
 38858 | Snake:1  | Reached skill level 19 in Fighting
 38942 | Snake:1  | Reached skill level 15 in Armour
 38956 | Snake:1  | Received a gift from Trog
 39353 | Snake:1  | Noticed Aizul
 39361 | Snake:1  | Killed Aizul
 40292 | Snake:1  | Received a gift from Trog
 41430 | Snake:2  | Received a gift from Trog
 41449 | Snake:2  | Killed Vashnia
 41454 | Snake:2  | Reached XP level 18. HP: 176/176 MP: 7/22
 41474 | Snake:2  | Got an iridescent demon whip {god gift}
 41475 | Snake:2  | Identified the +3 demon whip of an ice cave {drain, rN+ Dex+3} (Trog gifted it to you on level 2 of the Snake Pit)
 42616 | Snake:3  | Received a gift from Trog
 42866 | Snake:4  | Entered Level 4 of the Snake Pit
 42927 | Snake:3  | Reached skill level 20 in Fighting
 43049 | Snake:3  | Received a gift from Trog
 44003 | Snake:4  | Received a gift from Trog
 44525 | Snake:4  | Noticed Jorgrun
 44546 | Snake:4  | Killed Jorgrun
 44852 | Snake:4  | Noticed Saint Roka
 45149 | Snake:3  | Reached skill level 21 in Fighting
 45667 | Snake:4  | Killed Saint Roka
 45673 | Snake:4  | Received a gift from Trog
 46225 | Snake:4  | Reached XP level 19. HP: 189/189 MP: 7/23
 46240 | Snake:4  | HP: 5/189 [salamander/trident (6)]
 46816 | Snake:3  | Received a gift from Trog
 46987 | Snake:4  | Received a gift from Trog
 47279 | Snake:4  | Noticed Roxanne
 47912 | Snake:4  | Got a serpentine rune of Zot
 49396 | Snake:4  | Got a transparent quarterstaff {god gift}
 49631 | Shoals:3 | Received a gift from Trog
 49740 | Shoals:3 | Got a shimmering longbow
 50077 | D:14     | Identified the cursed +1 longbow of Fundamental Breach {flame, rC+ rN+++ MR+ Stlth-} (You found it on level 3 of the Shoals)
 50114 | D:14     | Identified the +5 quarterstaff of Shame {holy, Dex+3} (Trog gifted it to you on level 4 of the Snake Pit)
 50225 | Orc:1    | Bought a pair of glowing boots for 232 gold pieces
 50225 | Orc:1    | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 155 gold pieces
 50879 | Vaults:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Vaults
 51645 | Vaults:1 | Reached skill level 22 in Fighting
 52483 | Vaults:1 | Received a gift from Trog
 53535 | Vaults:2 | Received a gift from Trog
 54394 | Vaults:2 | Reached XP level 20. HP: 188/202 MP: 8/25
 54686 | Vaults:2 | Identified a scroll of acquirement
 54733 | Vaults:2 | Reached skill level 23 in Fighting
 55274 | Vaults:3 | Received a gift from Trog
 55484 | Vaults:3 | Received a gift from Trog
 55522 | Vaults:3 | Got a dazzling quarterstaff {god gift}
 55528 | Vaults:3 | Identified the +3 quarterstaff "Beetleslayer" {drain, rF+ MR- Str+8 Dex+2} (Trog gifted it to you on level 3 of the Vaults)
 55720 | Vaults:3 | Found a portal to a secret trove of treasure.
 55894 | Vaults:3 | Noticed Mennas
 55940 | Vaults:3 | Killed Mennas
 56409 | Vaults:3 | Noticed Margery
 56414 | Vaults:3 | Killed Margery
 56417 | Vaults:3 | Reached skill level 24 in Fighting
 56727 | Vaults:3 | Found a staircase to the Crypt.
 56727 | Vaults:3 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
 56728 | Vaults:3 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
 56751 | Vaults:3 | Received a gift from Trog
 56762 | Vaults:3 | Got a warped fustibalus {god gift}
 56763 | Vaults:3 | Identified the +3 fustibalus of Lomeepra {velocity, Int+5} (Trog gifted it to you on level 3 of the Vaults)
 57381 | Vaults:4 | Reached XP level 21. HP: 215/215 MP: 9/27
 57582 | Vaults:4 | Received a gift from Trog
 57716 | Vaults:4 | Got a steaming lapis lazuli ring
 58001 | Vaults:4 | Reached skill level 10 in Evocations
 58023 | Vaults:4 | Reached skill level 25 in Fighting
 58432 | Vaults:4 | Received a gift from Trog
 60389 | D:14     | Identified the cursed ring "Java Piu" {rF+ EV-3 Str+3} (You took it off a vault sentinel on level 4 of the Vaults)

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 |
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Maces & Flails |  4     5     6  8  9 11 13                14 15                | 15.3
Fighting       |  4           5  6  7  8 10 12 13          15 17 19 21 22 24 25 | 25.6
Stealth        |              1        2     3                                  |  3.3
Axes           |                          1     4                               |  4.3
Armour         |                             5  9          11 13 15 17 18 19    | 19.8
Dodging        |                             4  6           7  9 10 12          | 12.4
Slings         |                                  10                            | 10.1
Evocations     |                                   2  3  5  6           8  9 10 | 10.0
Spellcasting   |                                   1  2  3                      |  3.5
Shields        |                                     11 15                      | 15.0
Staves         |                                         5  7                   |  7.0

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Mace              |    55 |    75 |    52 |       |       |       |       ||   182
       Headbutt          |     8 |    22 |    52 |   243 |   466 |   358 |   369 ||  1518
       Flail             |       |    43 |   199 |    97 |  1221 |       |       ||  1560
       Hand axe          |       |       |    28 |   632 |       |       |       ||   660
       Dire flail        |       |       |       |   123 |    29 |       |       ||   152
       Eveningstar       |       |       |       |       |   173 |  1331 |  1210 ||  2714
 Fire: Hunting sling     |       |       |       |    20 |       |       |       ||    20
       Fustibalus        |       |       |       |       |       |    94 |    27 ||   121
Invok: Burn Spellbooks   |       |     1 |     2 |     4 |     1 |     7 |     1 ||    16
       Berserk           |       |     1 |     2 |     5 |     1 |     6 |     6 ||    21
       Trog's Hand       |       |       |     2 |       |     2 |     1 |     1 ||     6
 Abil: Evoke Flight      |       |       |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |       |       |     4 |       |     1 ||     5
  Use: Scroll            |       |     2 |    11 |    11 |    14 |    11 |    10 ||    59
       Potion            |       |       |     1 |     3 |     3 |     3 |     3 ||    13
 Stab: Sleeping          |     1 |     1 |       |       |       |       |       ||     2
  Eat: Chunk             |     1 |     5 |    15 |    26 |    31 |    29 |    32 ||   139
       Ration            |       |       |     1 |     3 |     4 |    11 |     7 ||    26
Armor: Animal skin       |     6 |     8 |       |       |       |       |       ||    14
       Chain mail        |       |    36 |   102 |   102 |       |       |       ||   240
       Plate armour      |       |       |       |   387 |   462 |   450 |   383 ||  1682
Dodge: Dodged            |    30 |    67 |    96 |   432 |   474 |   500 |   391 ||  1990
       Deflected         |       |       |       |       |       |    42 |    47 ||    89
Block: Other             |       |       |       |     1 |       |       |       ||     1
       Shield            |       |       |       |       |  1046 |  1198 |  1030 ||  3274
       Reflection        |       |       |       |       |    10 |   199 |    89 ||   298



bel wrote:Your equipment and skills look fine. Just be careful when walking around with rC-.

Your +6 plate with MR+ is fine for now; you don't need to rush to get the crystal plate armour. I would buy the glowing boots and hope that they're boots of running.

The boots were +1 regular boots. :(

Vajrapani wrote:First of all, I would take off that rC- ring, or at least try to mitigate it with an rC+ ring and/or replace the rN+ ring with an rF+ ring.

Vaults tends to have monsters that regularly do fire and cold damage, and rC- and no rF+ can be quite dangerous. You can technically just ring swap to a ring without rC- when you meet a cold-using monster, but I wouldn't risk it since you may forget and end up taking a lot of damage for a small oversight.

Also, Do Vaults 1-4, but do not go down to Vaults:5 until you have at least finished Depths.

The various Vault guard enemies (Convokers, Sentinels and Wardens) have dangerous abilities but have low MR, I would train evocations slightly to like 8-10 and maybe try to use hex-wands (Paralysis, Polymorph ) on them when you see them to minimise the danger (e.g. use a polymorph on a convoker just before he summons a bunch of stuff on you.)

But that's just a minor tip to decrease the danger a little, play a little slower than normal, since it's an area you're not used to, and you'll do fine.

Swapping out the rings to remove rC- and add rF+ was some of the best advice I think I have ever gotten. So many ice and fire dragons in the vault. :shock:

Also, holy crap, I never knew the Polymorph wand was so good. Convokers suck! Once they summon shit you can't focus them down to get rid of the new enemies like you can with elves. And some of the stuff they summon is terifying. I burned 3 teleport scrolls on Vault 3 to get away from multiple bad situations. Nothing is quite as satisfying as watching them turn into a merfolk with no water around.

themadtoker wrote:I would just like to pipe in and say congrats on snagging 2 runes after only 40 games. Well done. Took me like a 100 runs before I even saw one, but then again I play squishy spell slingers. But welcome to the forums and happy crawling, hope this run turns into your first win.

Thanks! I hope it turns out well too.
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Post Wednesday, 20th June 2018, 04:37

Re: Noob Player Seeking Vault Assistance for MiBe

Convokers don't "summon" monsters, they recall them from elsewhere on the floor. So they are more dangerous than normal summoners in a sense because even if you kill the convoker, the monsters remain. Their recall spell does take 3 or so turns to activate, so hex wands (or simply killing them fast) are good ways to deal with them.

Wearing a shield of reflection with an amulet of reflection is mostly redundant. Swap for a better amulet. Faith and regen are better. Guardian spirit is usually good, but with anti-magic weapon it's less effective.

By the way, training Maces even after min-delay is still useful. It increases damage and accuracy.

Using scroll of acquirement immediately is often good (acquiring jewellery is always useful). However, if you feel confident in surviving, you can hold on to it.
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Post Wednesday, 20th June 2018, 04:50

Re: Noob Player Seeking Vault Assistance for MiBe

bel wrote:Convokers don't "summon" monsters, they recall them from elsewhere on the floor. So they are more dangerous than normal summoners in a sense because even if you kill the convoker, the monsters remain. Their recall spell does take 3 or so turns to activate, so hex wands (or simply killing them fast) are good ways to deal with them.

Wearing a shield of reflection with an amulet of reflection is mostly redundant. Swap for a better amulet. Faith and regen are better. Guardian spirit is usually good, but with anti-magic weapon it's less effective.

Oh thank god. So they aren't as bad as I thought. It also explains why some levels of the vault seemed so empty. :lol:

The reflection doesn't stack? Okay, but why would I want to use an amulet of faith? I understand why I should use an amulet of regeneration, but not why I should use the amulet of faith. I am at ****** with Trog and really don't seem to have a problem keeping my piety up. Is it just to spam summon berzerker?

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Post Wednesday, 20th June 2018, 04:53

Re: Noob Player Seeking Vault Assistance for MiBe

bel wrote:
By the way, training Maces even after min-delay is still useful. It increases damage and accuracy.

Using scroll of acquirement immediately is often good (acquiring jewellery is always useful). However, if you feel confident in surviving, you can hold on to it.


Wait...You're telling me that training maces past min delay matters?.....Shit. Maaaan. I got bad advice from somewhere or misread something.

So you recommend blowing the acquirement scroll on jewelry?

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Post Wednesday, 20th June 2018, 04:55

Re: Noob Player Seeking Vault Assistance for MiBe

Faith is always useful because piety is always useful. You'll get more gifts, and you can use Brothers-in-arms and Trog's hand more. I see that you've never used Brothers-in-Arms. Use it: piety is there to be used. Many situations can be trivialized by using BiA one or two times.

Training M&F to min-delay makes a lot of difference. Training it past min-delay still makes a difference, but it's much less than before.

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