Looking for advice on my current run (DsIE)


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Halls Hopper

Posts: 62

Joined: Saturday, 21st September 2013, 06:55

Post Sunday, 17th June 2018, 18:39

Looking for advice on my current run (DsIE)

So I'm definitely not the best player in the world, I have 300+ games under my belt and not a single win, best I've done is snag a couple runes. This run is looking to be one of my best so far, I've picked up quite a bit of useful gear and spells and am looking for some advice on how I should proceed. Currently I'm in Lair 5, I've cleared the Dungeon to 11 and plan to finish Lair then do Orc.

I started as a mage, and still am but due to my spells, gear, mutations and god I'm quite capable in melee, though my AC could be better. I can handle a 6 headed hydra without too much difficulty but now I'm not sure if I should be focusing on magic (was thinking about getting invisibility online) or if I should be training my fighting/pole arms. I have a ring of wizardry and I can equip a staff of wizardry in a pinch if I need to cast a particularly tough spell.

One problem is Snakes is one of the Lair branches I have, but I don't have any poison resist. I'm hoping by the time I finish Orc I'll pick up at least one pip of it.

So given the equipment and skills I currently have, how would you guys go about progressing from this point? I would really love to turn this run into my first win, I think this character has the potential.

  Code:
TheMadToker the Frost Mage (DsIE)                  Turns: 29713, Time: 07:47:44

Health: 96/96      AC: 14    Str:  9    XL:     13   Next: 67%
Magic:  33/33      EV: 14    Int: 18    God:    Wu Jian [*****.]
Gold:   858        SH:  0    Dex: 21    Spells: 2/27 levels left

rFire    . . .     SeeInvis .   N - +4 halberd (venom)
rCold    + . .     Gourm    .   (shield currently unavailable)
rNeg     . . .     Faith    .   e - +5 ring mail {MR+}
rPois    .         Spirit   +   (no helmet)
rElec    .         Reflect  .   (no cloak)
rCorr    .         Harm     .   L - +2 pair of gloves "Hulumid" {Dex+4}
MR       +....                  g - +0 pair of boots
Stlth    ++........             v - amulet of guardian spirit
HPRegen  0.26/turn              D - ring of magical power
MPRegen  0.23/turn              U - ring of protection from cold

@: no status effects
A: hooves 2, foul stench 1, powered by death 1, rot immunity, sanguine armour 3
a: Wall Jump, Serpent's Lash, Heavenly Storm, Renounce Religion


You are on level 11 of the Dungeon.
You worship Wu Jian.
Wu Jian is extremely pleased with you.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 19 of its levels.

You have collected 1105 gold pieces.
You have spent 247 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 d - a glaive
 f - a +0 fustibalus
 N - a +4 halberd of venom (weapon)
Missiles
 A - 76 sling bullets (quivered)
Armour
 e - a +5 ring mail of magic resistance (worn)
 g - a +0 pair of boots (worn)
 j - a buckler
 o - a +2 pair of gloves
 L - the +2 pair of gloves "Hulumid" (worn) {Dex+4}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   It affects your dexterity (+4).
 R - a +0 scale mail
Magical Staves
 s - an uncursed staff of wizardry
Jewellery
 m - an uncursed ring of ice
 q - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
 v - an amulet of guardian spirit (around neck)
 D - a ring of magical power (left hand)
 E - an uncursed ring of wizardry
 U - a ring of protection from cold (right hand)
Wands
 a - a wand of flame (3)
 r - a wand of iceblast (9)
 x - a wand of scattershot (4)
 F - a wand of random effects (4)
 X - a wand of digging (57)
Scrolls
 b - a scroll of amnesia
 i - 5 scrolls of magic mapping
 k - a scroll of teleportation
 l - a scroll of immolation
 y - 4 scrolls of remove curse
 z - a scroll of fog
Potions
 n - 2 potions of lignification
 p - 4 potions of ambrosia
 t - a sapphire potion
 u - 2 potions of brilliance
 w - 3 potions of might
 C - 4 potions of curing
 G - 3 potions of flight
 I - 3 potions of magic
 K - a lumpy blue potion
 M - 2 potions of haste
 P - 2 potions of heal wounds
 S - 3 potions of cancellation
 V - 2 pink potions
 W - a fuming golden potion
Books
 h - a book of Misfortune   
   
    Spells                           Type                      Level
    a - Confusing Touch              Hexes                         1
    b - Confuse                      Hexes                         3
    c - Gell's Gravitas              Translocation                 3
    d - Petrify                      Transmutation/Earth           4
    e - Metabolic Englaciation       Hexes/Ice                     5
    f - Yara's Violent Unravelling   Hexes/Transmutation           5
 B - a book of Battle   
   
    Spells                           Type                      Level
    a - Infusion                     Charms                        1
    b - Shroud of Golubria           Charms/Translocation          2
    c - Song of Slaying              Charms                        2
    d - Spectral Weapon              Hexes/Charms                  3
    e - Regeneration                 Charms/Necromancy             3
 Y - a book of Party Tricks   
   
    Spells                           Type                      Level
    a - Summon Butterflies           Summoning                     1
    b - Apportation                  Translocation                 1
    c - Lesser Beckoning             Translocation                 3
    d - Tukima's Dance               Hexes                         3
    e - Alistair's Intoxication      Transmutation/Poison          5
    f - Invisibility                 Hexes                         6
Miscellaneous
 T - a box of beasts
Comestibles
 c - 20 rations


   Skills:
 + Level 7.2 Fighting
 + Level 8.3 Polearms
 * Level 6.8 Dodging
 - Level 1.7 Stealth
 - Level 6.4 Unarmed Combat
 - Level 7.8 Spellcasting
 - Level 5.0 Conjurations
 - Level 7.5 Hexes
 - Level 6.8 Charms
 - Level 3.1 Summonings
 - Level 9.7 Ice Magic
 - Level 5.0 Evocations


You have 2 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Spectral Weapon       Hex/Chrm       ####....     4%          3    #......
b - Throw Frost           Conj/Ice       ####..       1%          2    None
c - Regeneration          Chrm/Necr      ###.......   21%         3    #......
d - Throw Icicle          Conj/Ice       ####....     13%         4    ###....
e - Summon Ice Beast      Ice/Summ       ####....     19%         4    ###....
f - Confuse               Hex            ####....     3%          3    #......
g - Tukima's Dance        Hex            ####....     3%          3    #......
h - Infusion              Chrm           ####         1%          1    None
i - Song of Slaying       Chrm           ####....     2%          2    None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (12/15)            Temple (1/1) D:6            Lair (6/6) D:8
 Shoals (0/4) Lair:4        Snake (0/4) Lair:4     
 Slime: Lair:5-6       Orc: D:9-12     

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Wu Jian
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One

Shops:
D:4 [   D:7 =

Annotations:
D:4 2 transporters, Menkaure


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You have hoof-like feet.
You may emit foul miasma when damaged in melee.
You regenerate a little health from kills.
You are immune to rotting.
When seriously injured, your bleeding wounds create very thick armour. (AC +0)


Message History

Welcome back, TheMadToker the Demonspawn Ice Elementalist.
The Council says: Follow the Path!
Press ? for a list of commands and other information.
Cast which spell? (? or * to list)
Okay, then.
Welcome back, TheMadToker the Demonspawn Ice Elementalist.
The Council says: Follow the Path!
Press ? for a list of commands and other information.
Welcome back, TheMadToker the Demonspawn Ice Elementalist.
The Council says: Follow the Path!
Press ? for a list of commands and other information.
There is a stone staircase leading up here.
You see here an arrow.
The centaur warrior shoots an arrow. The arrow barely misses you.
You climb upwards.
There is a stone staircase leading down here.
(D) Dungeon        (T) Temple         (L) Lair           (A) Shoals         
(P) Snake Pit     
Where to? (? - help)
Okay, then.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Fannar (Lair:3)
  4 hydras
  3 two-headed ogres
  A fire crab (Lair:5)
  2 unseen horrors (D:11)
  Pikel (D:7)
  A cyclops (D:9)
  13 elephants
  A black mamba (Lair:4)
  6 komodo dragons
  5 spiny frogs
  A rime drake (Lair:6)
  3 polar bears (Lair:6)
  3 trolls
  A merfolk (Lair:4)
  3 hornets (Lair:5)
  11 blink frogs
  A dream sheep (Lair:6)
  9 hippogriffs
  3 wyverns
  A basilisk (D:12)
  18 yaks
  A hungry ghost (D:11)
  3 nagas (Lair:4)
  Duvessa (D:7)
  7 water moccasins
  13 porcupines
  2 sky beasts
  2 slaves (D:7)
  2 black bears
  A necrophage (D:5)
  5 orc warriors
  4 ice beasts
  A phantom (D:8)
  5 ogres
  8 centaurs
  12 crocodiles
  A big kobold (D:8)
  A gnoll sergeant (D:5)
  11 bullfrogs
  Dowan (D:7)
  5 scorpions
  A wyvern skeleton (D:6)
  9 killer bees
  A howler monkey (D:4)
  5 crimson imps
  2 bullfrog zombies
  2 quasits (D:10)
  2 centaur zombies (D:11)
  10 hounds
  2 bullfrog skeletons
  4 jellies
  8 orc priests
  11 orc wizards
  2 centaur skeletons
  4 iguanas
  4 worker ants
  A hound zombie (D:6)
  A worker ant zombie (D:11)
  13 gnolls
  13 adders
  3 shadow imps
  2 white imps (Lair:6)
  An adder skeleton (D:5)
  A worm (D:3)
  A dart slug (D:3)
  4 leopard geckos
  32 orcs
  4 giant cockroaches
  16 goblins
  4 hobgoblins
  25 jackals
  A quokka (D:4)
  A ball python (D:8)
  5 bats
  6 frilled lizards
  6 kobolds
  A leopard gecko skeleton (D:4)
  A leopard gecko zombie (D:6)
  8 rats
  A fungus (Lair:5)
  A plant (Lair:6)
397 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  3 hydras
  A manticore (Lair:6)
  2 elephants (Lair:6)
  A merfolk siren (Lair:4)
  5 spiny frogs (Lair:6)
  A rime drake (Lair:6)
  A wind drake (Lair:6)
  9 dream sheep (Lair:6)
  4 blink frogs (Lair:6)
  3 hippogriffs
  A wyvern (Lair:6)
  2 yaks (Lair:6)
  A basilisk (D:8)
  2 nagas (Lair:4)
  4 water moccasins
  2 porcupines
  A black bear (D:6)
  A sky beast (D:5)
  An ogre (D:6)
  2 crocodiles (Lair:6)
  6 killer bees
  2 crimson imps (D:6)
  An orc wizard (D:10)
  An adder zombie (D:6)
  An orc (D:10)
58 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  3 bushes (D:8)
  28 fungi
  33 plants
  11 spectral weapons
75 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 530 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | TheMadToker the Demonspawn Ice Elementalist began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 13/13 MP: 3/3
   131 | D:1      | Reached skill level 3 in Ice Magic
   213 | D:1      | Gained mutation: When seriously injured, your bleeding wounds create armour. (AC +0) [demonic ancestry]
   213 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 20/20 MP: 0/5
   253 | D:1      | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
   726 | D:1      | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Frost
  1050 | D:1      | Gained mutation: You have large cloven feet. [demonic ancestry]
  1050 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 26/26 MP: 4/6
  1352 | D:2      | Learned a level 3 spell: Ozocubu's Armour
  1747 | D:2      | Reached skill level 1 in Charms
  1866 | D:2      | Gained mutation: When seriously injured, your bleeding wounds create thick armour. (AC +0) [demonic ancestry]
  1866 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 31/33 MP: 2/7
  2620 | D:2      | Reached skill level 4 in Ice Magic
  2620 | D:2      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 24/39 MP: 1/8
  3945 | D:4      | Found Horupt's Armour Boutique.
  3996 | D:4      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
  3998 | D:4      | Noticed Menkaure
  4003 | D:4      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  4024 | D:4      | Found a transporter.
  4036 | D:4      | Found a transporter.
  4046 | D:4      | Gained mutation: You have hoof-like feet. [demonic ancestry]
  4046 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 44/47 MP: 4/9
  4945 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  5127 | D:4      | Bought a +2 robe of fire resistance for 247 gold pieces
  5221 | D:5      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 31/52 MP: 6/11
  5611 | D:5      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
  5623 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Ice Magic
  5659 | D:5      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
  5667 | D:5      | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
  6920 | D:5      | Gained mutation: You are immune to rotting. [demonic ancestry]
  6920 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 51/57 MP: 13/15
  6993 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
  7034 | D:6      | Reached skill level 1 in Unarmed Combat
  7467 | D:6      | Reached skill level 6 in Ice Magic
  7475 | D:6      | Learned a level 4 spell: Throw Icicle
  7480 | D:6      | Learned a level 4 spell: Summon Ice Beast
  7644 | D:6      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  7650 | D:6      | Reached skill level 1 in Summonings
  7652 | D:6      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  7669 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  7747 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of the Wu Jian Council
  7927 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations
  8649 | D:6      | Gained mutation: You may emit foul miasma when damaged in melee. [demonic ancestry]
  8649 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 58/62 MP: 16/16
  9577 | D:7      | Reached * piety under Wu Jian
  9582 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Unarmed Combat
 10005 | D:7      | Noticed Pikel
 10015 | D:7      | Killed Pikel
 10805 | D:7      | Noticed Duvessa
 10809 | D:7      | Noticed Dowan
 10814 | D:7      | Killed Dowan
 10819 | D:7      | Killed Duvessa
 10959 | D:7      | Found Zaibeiraf's Jewellery Boutique.
 11688 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 60/72 MP: 14/17
 11759 | D:8      | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 11763 | D:8      | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 12010 | D:7      | Killed a two-headed ogre
 12010 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
 12129 | D:7      | Killed a two-headed ogre
 12306 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 12610 | D:8      | Reached ** piety under Wu Jian
 13236 | D:8      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
 13243 | D:8      | Reached skill level 7 in Ice Magic
 13332 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 14297 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 14957 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 8 in Ice Magic
 15871 | Lair:1   | Gained mutation: You regenerate a little health from kills. [demonic ancestry]
 15871 | Lair:1   | Reached XP level 11. HP: 40/83 MP: 8/18
 16136 | D:8      | Learned a level 3 spell: Confuse
 16692 | D:9      | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 16704 | D:9      | Killed a two-headed ogre
 17405 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 17439 | D:9      | Learned a level 3 spell: Tukima's Dance
 17863 | D:10     | Reached *** piety under Wu Jian
 17863 | D:10     | Reached skill level 1 in Polearms
 17930 | D:10     | Reached skill level 5 in Hexes
 19047 | D:11     | Killed an unseen horror
 19086 | D:11     | Killed an unseen horror
 19566 | D:11     | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
 19751 | D:11     | Reached **** piety under Wu Jian
 19760 | D:11     | Learned a level 1 spell: Infusion
 19763 | D:11     | Learned a level 2 spell: Song of Slaying
 20539 | D:12     | Noticed an orc knight
 20547 | D:12     | Noticed a centaur warrior
 21130 | Lair:2   | Gained mutation: When seriously injured, your bleeding wounds create very thick armour. (AC +0) [demonic ancestry]
 21130 | Lair:2   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 71/91 MP: 4/22
 22375 | Lair:3   | Got a pair of shimmering gloves
 22386 | Lair:3   | Identified the +2 pair of gloves "Hulumid" {Dex+4} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts)
 22414 | Lair:3   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 22430 | Lair:3   | Killed a five-headed hydra
 22535 | Lair:3   | Noticed Fannar
 22558 | Lair:3   | Killed Fannar
 22558 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations
 22818 | D:8      | Learned a level 3 spell: Spectral Weapon
 23398 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 5 in Polearms
 24173 | Lair:4   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 24195 | Lair:4   | Killed a ten-headed hydra
 24577 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
 24821 | Lair:4   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 24827 | Lair:4   | Killed a six-headed hydra
 25052 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
 25788 | Lair:5   | Learned a level 3 spell: Regeneration
 25860 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 5 in Charms
 26277 | Lair:5   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 26290 | Lair:5   | Killed a five-headed hydra
 26290 | Lair:5   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 96/96 MP: 8/23
 26668 | Lair:6   | Entered Level 6 of the Lair of Beasts
 27331 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 9 in Ice Magic
 28553 | Lair:6   | Reached ***** piety under Wu Jian

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 |
---------------+----------------------------------------+-----
Ice Magic      |  3        4        5  6     8        9 |  9.7
Fighting       |     1     2  3           4  6  7       |  7.2
Charms         |        1  2                       5  6 |  6.8
Conjurations   |              2     4  5                |  5.0
Spellcasting   |                 3  4  5        6  7    |  7.8
Unarmed Combat |                       3  6             |  6.4
Summonings     |                       2  3             |  3.1
Dodging        |                          3  6          |  6.8
Hexes          |                                5  7    |  7.5
Polearms       |                                4  7  8 |  8.3
Evocations     |                                3  5    |  5.0
Stealth        |                                        |  1.7

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Hand axe          |    11 |    12 |       |       |       ||    23
       Unarmed           |     2 |       |       |       |       ||     2
       Dagger            |    11 |     6 |       |       |       ||    17
       Kick              |     4 |     5 |    51 |    71 |       ||   131
       War axe           |       |     4 |       |       |       ||     4
       Halberd           |       |    14 |   263 |   696 |   181 ||  1154
       Flail             |       |       |    23 |       |       ||    23
       Fustibalus        |       |       |       |     9 |     1 ||    10
 Fire: Blowgun           |       |     6 |       |       |       ||     6
       Fustibalus        |       |       |       |    52 |    53 ||   105
Throw: Tomahawk          |     4 |     5 |       |       |       ||     9
       Stone             |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
 Cast: Freeze            |    61 |    94 |    45 |     4 |       ||   204
       Throw Frost       |     1 |     7 |    12 |    65 |     2 ||    87
       Ozocubu's Armour  |       |     7 |    21 |     1 |       ||    29
       Summon Ice Beast  |       |       |    16 |    37 |    55 ||   108
       Throw Icicle      |       |       |     8 |    43 |    15 ||    66
       Confuse           |       |       |       |    13 |     6 ||    19
       Tukima's Dance    |       |       |       |     6 |       ||     6
       Song of Slaying   |       |       |       |     5 |       ||     5
       Infusion          |       |       |       |    10 |    10 ||    20
       Spectral Weapon   |       |       |       |    19 |    26 ||    45
       Regeneration      |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
Invok: Lunge             |       |       |     1 |    14 |     1 ||    16
       Whirlwind         |       |       |     4 |   174 |    80 ||   258
       Wall Jump         |       |       |       |    21 |     3 ||    24
       Serpent's Lash    |       |       |       |     5 |     1 ||     6
Evoke: Wand              |       |    14 |     7 |    17 |     6 ||    44
       Box of beasts     |       |       |       |     1 |     1 ||     2
  Use: Scroll            |     7 |     3 |     7 |    30 |     3 ||    50
       Potion            |       |     1 |       |     5 |     2 ||     8
 Stab: Sleeping          |     1 |     1 |     7 |       |       ||     9
       Distracted        |       |       |     1 |     1 |       ||     2
       Confused          |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
  Eat: Chunk             |     4 |    12 |    15 |    36 |    15 ||    82
       Ration            |       |       |     4 |     7 |     2 ||    13
Armor: Robe              |    16 |    33 |   171 |       |       ||   220
       Leather armour    |       |       |    17 |    16 |       ||    33
       Ring mail         |       |       |       |   368 |    83 ||   451
Dodge: Dodged            |    51 |    82 |   282 |   629 |   118 ||  1162
Last edited by themadtoker on Sunday, 17th June 2018, 20:33, edited 1 time in total.

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Post Sunday, 17th June 2018, 18:49

Re: Looking for advice on my current run (DsIE)

Ran in to an Ice Dragon on L5... put on my Ring of Ice Protection but he still gave me a run for my money so I fled, any tips on how to deal with that critter?
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Post Sunday, 17th June 2018, 20:03

themadtoker wrote:Oh, and btw, what is the code to put my morgue file directly in my post? I always seem to forget that.

Just use code tags like this:

  Code:
 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.21.1-1-g345015f (webtiles) character file.

TheMadToker the Frost Mage (DsIE)                  Turns: 30073, Time: 08:09:41

Health: 17/144     AC: 26    Str:  9    XL:     13   Next: 79%
Magic:  7/33       EV:  2    Int: 18    God:    Wu Jian [*****.]
Gold:   858        SH:  0    Dex: 17    Spells: 2/27 levels left

rFire    . . .     SeeInvis .   N - +4 halberd (venom)
rCold    . . .     Gourm    .   (shield currently unavailable)
rNeg     + + +     Faith    .   (armour currently unavailable)
rPois    +         Spirit   +   (helmet currently unavailable)
rElec    .         Reflect  .   (cloak currently unavailable)
rCorr    .         Harm     .   (gloves currently unavailable)
MR       .....     NoTele   +   (boots currently unavailable)
Stlth    ++........             v - amulet of guardian spirit
HPRegen  1.34/turn              D - ring of magical power
MPRegen  0.23/turn              E - ring of wizardry

@: exhausted, tree-form, regenerating, hasted, very quick
A: foul stench 1, powered by death 1, rot immunity
a: Wall Jump, Serpent's Lash, Heavenly Storm, Renounce Religion


You are on level 12 of the Dungeon.
You worship Wu Jian.
Wu Jian is extremely pleased with you.
You are hungry.

You are a tree.

You have visited 3 branches of the dungeon, and seen 19 of its levels.

You have collected 1105 gold pieces.
You have spent 247 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 d - a glaive
 f - a +0 fustibalus
 N - a +4 halberd of venom (weapon)
Missiles
 A - 75 sling bullets (quivered)
Armour
 e - a +5 ring mail of magic resistance (melded)
 g - a +0 pair of boots (melded)
 j - a buckler
 o - a +2 pair of gloves
 L - the +2 pair of gloves "Hulumid" (melded) {Dex+4}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   It affects your dexterity (+4).
Magical Staves
 s - an uncursed staff of wizardry
Jewellery
 m - an uncursed ring of ice
 q - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
 v - an amulet of guardian spirit (around neck)
 D - a ring of magical power (left branch)
 E - a ring of wizardry (right branch)
 U - an uncursed ring of protection from cold
Wands
 a - a wand of flame (3)
 r - a wand of iceblast (8)
 x - a wand of scattershot (4)
 F - a wand of random effects (4)
 X - a wand of digging (56)
Scrolls
 b - a scroll of amnesia
 i - 5 scrolls of magic mapping
 l - a scroll of immolation
 y - 2 scrolls of remove curse
Potions
 n - a potion of lignification
 p - 3 potions of ambrosia
 t - a sapphire potion
 u - 2 potions of brilliance
 w - 3 potions of might
 G - 3 potions of flight
 I - a potion of magic
 K - a lumpy blue potion
 M - a potion of haste
 S - 3 potions of cancellation
 V - 2 pink potions
 W - a fuming golden potion
Books
 h - a book of Misfortune   
   
    Spells                           Type                      Level
    a - Confusing Touch              Hexes                         1
    b - Confuse                      Hexes                         3
    c - Gell's Gravitas              Translocation                 3
    d - Petrify                      Transmutation/Earth           4
    e - Metabolic Englaciation       Hexes/Ice                     5
    f - Yara's Violent Unravelling   Hexes/Transmutation           5
 B - a book of Battle   
   
    Spells                           Type                      Level
    a - Infusion                     Charms                        1
    b - Shroud of Golubria           Charms/Translocation          2
    c - Song of Slaying              Charms                        2
    d - Spectral Weapon              Hexes/Charms                  3
    e - Regeneration                 Charms/Necromancy             3
 Y - a book of Party Tricks   
   
    Spells                           Type                      Level
    a - Summon Butterflies           Summoning                     1
    b - Apportation                  Translocation                 1
    c - Lesser Beckoning             Translocation                 3
    d - Tukima's Dance               Hexes                         3
    e - Alistair's Intoxication      Transmutation/Poison          5
    f - Invisibility                 Hexes                         6
Miscellaneous
 T - a box of beasts
Comestibles
 c - 20 rations
 H - 2 chunks of flesh


   Skills:
 + Level 7.5 Fighting
 + Level 8.5 Polearms
 * Level 7.3 Dodging
 - Level 1.7 Stealth
 - Level 6.4 Unarmed Combat
 - Level 7.8 Spellcasting
 - Level 5.0 Conjurations
 - Level 7.5 Hexes
 - Level 6.8 Charms
 - Level 3.1 Summonings
 - Level 9.7 Ice Magic
 - Level 5.0 Evocations


You have 2 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Spectral Weapon       Hex/Chrm       ####....     1%          3    #......
b - Throw Frost           Conj/Ice       ####..       1%          2    None
c - Regeneration          Chrm/Necr      ###.......   2%          3    #......
d - Throw Icicle          Conj/Ice       ####....     1%          4    ###....
e - Summon Ice Beast      Ice/Summ       ####....     2%          4    ###....
f - Confuse               Hex            ####....     1%          3    #......
g - Tukima's Dance        Hex            ####....     1%          3    #......
h - Infusion              Chrm           ####         1%          1    None
i - Song of Slaying       Chrm           ####....     1%          2    None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (12/15)            Temple (1/1) D:6            Lair (6/6) D:8
 Shoals (0/4) Lair:4        Snake (0/4) Lair:4     
 Slime: Lair:5-6       Orc: D:9-12     

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Wu Jian
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One

Shops:
D:4 [   D:7 =

Annotations:
D:4 2 transporters, Menkaure


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

((You have hoof-like feet.))
You may emit foul miasma when damaged in melee.
You regenerate a little health from kills.
You are immune to rotting.
((When seriously injured, your bleeding wounds create very thick armour. (AC +0)))


Message History

Your juvenile shockfire beast barely misses the troll.
The skeletal warrior hits you but does no damage.
Quiver which item? (- for none, * to show all) (? for menu, Esc to quit)
Okay, then.
You feel better.
You kill the centaur warrior!
The Council accepts your kill.
The troll bites you!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
The troll claws you but does no damage. x2
Your ice beast hits the troll but does no damage.
Your juvenile shockfire beast hits the troll but does no damage.
Quiver which item? (- for none, * to show all) (? for menu, Esc to quit)
Okay, then.
You feel better.
The skeletal warrior hits you from afar with a halberd!
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Your ice beast hits the skeletal warrior but does no damage.
The troll bites you but does no damage. The troll claws you but does no damage. x2
Your ice beast barely misses the troll.

      #.....  ....#..#
      ...####§....#..#
      ...#.§c§.####..#
      ####§§§§.#
     ##...§.####
     #...§§§#
     #.zu####
   ###Y§##
   #..♣Y#
   #.HT.#
   #.Y###
  ....
 #....
 #..##
 ...
....


You can see a brown ugly thing, a skeletal warrior, a troll, a friendly juvenile
shockfire beast and 3 friendly ice beasts.

Vanquished Creatures
  Fannar (Lair:3)
  5 hydras
  2 centaur warriors
  3 two-headed ogres
  A fire crab (Lair:5)
  2 unseen horrors (D:11)
  An orc knight (D:12)
  Pikel (D:7)
  A cyclops (D:9)
  13 elephants
  A black mamba (Lair:4)
  6 komodo dragons
  5 spiny frogs
  A rime drake (Lair:6)
  3 polar bears (Lair:6)
  3 trolls
  A merfolk (Lair:4)
  3 hornets (Lair:5)
  11 blink frogs
  A dream sheep (Lair:6)
  9 hippogriffs
  4 wyverns
  A basilisk (D:12)
  18 yaks
  A hungry ghost (D:11)
  3 nagas (Lair:4)
  Duvessa (D:7)
  7 water moccasins
  13 porcupines
  2 sky beasts
  2 slaves (D:7)
  2 black bears
  A necrophage (D:5)
  5 orc warriors
  4 ice beasts
  A phantom (D:8)
  5 ogres
  8 centaurs
  12 crocodiles
  A big kobold (D:8)
  A gnoll sergeant (D:5)
  11 bullfrogs
  Dowan (D:7)
  5 scorpions
  A wyvern skeleton (D:6)
  9 killer bees
  A howler monkey (D:4)
  5 crimson imps
  2 bullfrog zombies
  2 quasits (D:10)
  2 centaur zombies (D:11)
  10 hounds
  2 bullfrog skeletons
  4 jellies
  8 orc priests
  11 orc wizards
  2 centaur skeletons
  4 iguanas
  4 worker ants
  A hound zombie (D:6)
  A worker ant zombie (D:11)
  13 gnolls
  15 adders
  3 shadow imps
  2 white imps (Lair:6)
  An adder skeleton (D:5)
  A worm (D:3)
  A dart slug (D:3)
  4 leopard geckos
  32 orcs
  4 giant cockroaches
  16 goblins
  4 hobgoblins
  25 jackals
  A quokka (D:4)
  A ball python (D:8)
  5 bats
  6 frilled lizards
  6 kobolds
  A leopard gecko skeleton (D:4)
  A leopard gecko zombie (D:6)
  8 rats
  A fungus (Lair:5)
  A plant (Lair:6)
404 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  3 hydras
  A manticore (Lair:6)
  2 elephants (Lair:6)
  A merfolk siren (Lair:4)
  5 spiny frogs (Lair:6)
  A rime drake (Lair:6)
  A wind drake (Lair:6)
  9 dream sheep (Lair:6)
  4 blink frogs (Lair:6)
  3 hippogriffs
  A wyvern (Lair:6)
  2 yaks (Lair:6)
  A basilisk (D:8)
  2 nagas (Lair:4)
  4 water moccasins
  2 porcupines
  A black bear (D:6)
  A sky beast (D:5)
  An ogre (D:6)
  2 centaurs (D:12)
  2 crocodiles (Lair:6)
  6 killer bees
  2 crimson imps (D:6)
  An orc priest (D:12)
  2 orc wizards
  An adder zombie (D:6)
  4 orcs
65 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  3 bushes (D:8)
  28 fungi
  33 plants
  12 spectral weapons
76 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 545 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | TheMadToker the Demonspawn Ice Elementalist began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 13/13 MP: 3/3
   131 | D:1      | Reached skill level 3 in Ice Magic
   213 | D:1      | Gained mutation: When seriously injured, your bleeding wounds create armour. (AC +0) [demonic ancestry]
   213 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 20/20 MP: 0/5
   253 | D:1      | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
   726 | D:1      | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Frost
  1050 | D:1      | Gained mutation: You have large cloven feet. [demonic ancestry]
  1050 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 26/26 MP: 4/6
  1352 | D:2      | Learned a level 3 spell: Ozocubu's Armour
  1747 | D:2      | Reached skill level 1 in Charms
  1866 | D:2      | Gained mutation: When seriously injured, your bleeding wounds create thick armour. (AC +0) [demonic ancestry]
  1866 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 31/33 MP: 2/7
  2620 | D:2      | Reached skill level 4 in Ice Magic
  2620 | D:2      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 24/39 MP: 1/8
  3945 | D:4      | Found Horupt's Armour Boutique.
  3996 | D:4      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
  3998 | D:4      | Noticed Menkaure
  4003 | D:4      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  4024 | D:4      | Found a transporter.
  4036 | D:4      | Found a transporter.
  4046 | D:4      | Gained mutation: You have hoof-like feet. [demonic ancestry]
  4046 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 44/47 MP: 4/9
  4945 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  5127 | D:4      | Bought a +2 robe of fire resistance for 247 gold pieces
  5221 | D:5      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 31/52 MP: 6/11
  5611 | D:5      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
  5623 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Ice Magic
  5659 | D:5      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
  5667 | D:5      | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
  6920 | D:5      | Gained mutation: You are immune to rotting. [demonic ancestry]
  6920 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 51/57 MP: 13/15
  6993 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
  7034 | D:6      | Reached skill level 1 in Unarmed Combat
  7467 | D:6      | Reached skill level 6 in Ice Magic
  7475 | D:6      | Learned a level 4 spell: Throw Icicle
  7480 | D:6      | Learned a level 4 spell: Summon Ice Beast
  7644 | D:6      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  7650 | D:6      | Reached skill level 1 in Summonings
  7652 | D:6      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  7669 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  7747 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of the Wu Jian Council
  7927 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations
  8649 | D:6      | Gained mutation: You may emit foul miasma when damaged in melee. [demonic ancestry]
  8649 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 58/62 MP: 16/16
  9577 | D:7      | Reached * piety under Wu Jian
  9582 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Unarmed Combat
 10005 | D:7      | Noticed Pikel
 10015 | D:7      | Killed Pikel
 10805 | D:7      | Noticed Duvessa
 10809 | D:7      | Noticed Dowan
 10814 | D:7      | Killed Dowan
 10819 | D:7      | Killed Duvessa
 10959 | D:7      | Found Zaibeiraf's Jewellery Boutique.
 11688 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 60/72 MP: 14/17
 11759 | D:8      | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 11763 | D:8      | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 12010 | D:7      | Killed a two-headed ogre
 12010 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
 12129 | D:7      | Killed a two-headed ogre
 12306 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 12610 | D:8      | Reached ** piety under Wu Jian
 13236 | D:8      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
 13243 | D:8      | Reached skill level 7 in Ice Magic
 13332 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 14297 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 14957 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 8 in Ice Magic
 15871 | Lair:1   | Gained mutation: You regenerate a little health from kills. [demonic ancestry]
 15871 | Lair:1   | Reached XP level 11. HP: 40/83 MP: 8/18
 16136 | D:8      | Learned a level 3 spell: Confuse
 16692 | D:9      | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 16704 | D:9      | Killed a two-headed ogre
 17405 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 17439 | D:9      | Learned a level 3 spell: Tukima's Dance
 17863 | D:10     | Reached *** piety under Wu Jian
 17863 | D:10     | Reached skill level 1 in Polearms
 17930 | D:10     | Reached skill level 5 in Hexes
 19047 | D:11     | Killed an unseen horror
 19086 | D:11     | Killed an unseen horror
 19566 | D:11     | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
 19751 | D:11     | Reached **** piety under Wu Jian
 19760 | D:11     | Learned a level 1 spell: Infusion
 19763 | D:11     | Learned a level 2 spell: Song of Slaying
 20539 | D:12     | Noticed an orc knight
 20547 | D:12     | Noticed a centaur warrior
 21130 | Lair:2   | Gained mutation: When seriously injured, your bleeding wounds create very thick armour. (AC +0) [demonic ancestry]
 21130 | Lair:2   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 71/91 MP: 4/22
 22375 | Lair:3   | Got a pair of shimmering gloves
 22386 | Lair:3   | Identified the +2 pair of gloves "Hulumid" {Dex+4} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts)
 22414 | Lair:3   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 22430 | Lair:3   | Killed a five-headed hydra
 22535 | Lair:3   | Noticed Fannar
 22558 | Lair:3   | Killed Fannar
 22558 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations
 22818 | D:8      | Learned a level 3 spell: Spectral Weapon
 23398 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 5 in Polearms
 24173 | Lair:4   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 24195 | Lair:4   | Killed a ten-headed hydra
 24577 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
 24821 | Lair:4   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 24827 | Lair:4   | Killed a six-headed hydra
 25052 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
 25788 | Lair:5   | Learned a level 3 spell: Regeneration
 25860 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 5 in Charms
 26277 | Lair:5   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 26290 | Lair:5   | Killed a five-headed hydra
 26290 | Lair:5   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 96/96 MP: 8/23
 26668 | Lair:6   | Entered Level 6 of the Lair of Beasts
 27331 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 9 in Ice Magic
 28553 | Lair:6   | Reached ***** piety under Wu Jian

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 |
---------------+----------------------------------------+-----
Ice Magic      |  3        4        5  6     8        9 |  9.7
Fighting       |     1     2  3           4  6  7       |  7.5
Charms         |        1  2                       5  6 |  6.8
Conjurations   |              2     4  5                |  5.0
Spellcasting   |                 3  4  5        6  7    |  7.8
Unarmed Combat |                       3  6             |  6.4
Summonings     |                       2  3             |  3.1
Dodging        |                          3  6        7 |  7.3
Hexes          |                                5  7    |  7.5
Polearms       |                                4  7  8 |  8.5
Evocations     |                                3  5    |  5.0
Stealth        |                                        |  1.7

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Hand axe          |    11 |    12 |       |       |       ||    23
       Unarmed           |     2 |       |       |       |       ||     2
       Dagger            |    11 |     6 |       |       |       ||    17
       Kick              |     4 |     5 |    51 |    71 |       ||   131
       War axe           |       |     4 |       |       |       ||     4
       Halberd           |       |    14 |   263 |   696 |   207 ||  1180
       Flail             |       |       |    23 |       |       ||    23
       Fustibalus        |       |       |       |     9 |     1 ||    10
 Fire: Blowgun           |       |     6 |       |       |       ||     6
       Fustibalus        |       |       |       |    52 |    54 ||   106
Throw: Tomahawk          |     4 |     5 |       |       |       ||     9
       Stone             |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
 Cast: Freeze            |    61 |    94 |    45 |     4 |       ||   204
       Throw Frost       |     1 |     7 |    12 |    65 |     6 ||    91
       Ozocubu's Armour  |       |     7 |    21 |     1 |       ||    29
       Summon Ice Beast  |       |       |    16 |    37 |    66 ||   119
       Throw Icicle      |       |       |     8 |    43 |    15 ||    66
       Confuse           |       |       |       |    13 |     9 ||    22
       Tukima's Dance    |       |       |       |     6 |     4 ||    10
       Song of Slaying   |       |       |       |     5 |       ||     5
       Infusion          |       |       |       |    10 |    10 ||    20
       Spectral Weapon   |       |       |       |    19 |    28 ||    47
       Regeneration      |       |       |       |       |     2 ||     2
Invok: Lunge             |       |       |     1 |    14 |     1 ||    16
       Whirlwind         |       |       |     4 |   174 |    91 ||   269
       Wall Jump         |       |       |       |    21 |     3 ||    24
       Serpent's Lash    |       |       |       |     5 |     2 ||     7
Evoke: Wand              |       |    14 |     7 |    17 |     8 ||    46
       Box of beasts     |       |       |       |     1 |     2 ||     3
  Use: Scroll            |     7 |     3 |     7 |    30 |     7 ||    54
       Potion            |       |     1 |       |     5 |    13 ||    19
 Stab: Sleeping          |     1 |     1 |     7 |       |       ||     9
       Distracted        |       |       |     1 |     1 |       ||     2
       Confused          |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
  Eat: Chunk             |     4 |    12 |    15 |    36 |    17 ||    84
       Ration            |       |       |     4 |     7 |     2 ||    13
Armor: Robe              |    16 |    33 |   171 |       |       ||   220
       Leather armour    |       |       |    17 |    16 |       ||    33
       Ring mail         |       |       |       |   368 |   120 ||   488
       Skin              |       |       |       |       |    14 ||    14
Dodge: Dodged            |    51 |    82 |   282 |   629 |   150 ||  1194



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Post Monday, 18th June 2018, 06:08

Re: Looking for advice on my current run (DsIE)

themadtoker wrote:Ran in to an Ice Dragon on L5... put on my Ring of Ice Protection but he still gave me a run for my money so I fled, any tips on how to deal with that critter?
avoid it

poison resistance really isn't much help in Snake (or anywhere else for that matter). naga magi and nagarajas' venom bolts and poison arrows don't actually do all that much damage, and they have limited range, and nagas are slow, so they're not a big danger. by the way, poison resistance for players is capped at one pip.

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Post Monday, 18th June 2018, 20:39

Re: Looking for advice on my current run (DsIE)

duvessa wrote:
themadtoker wrote:Ran in to an Ice Dragon on L5... put on my Ring of Ice Protection but he still gave me a run for my money so I fled, any tips on how to deal with that critter?
avoid it

poison resistance really isn't much help in Snake (or anywhere else for that matter). naga magi and nagarajas' venom bolts and poison arrows don't actually do all that much damage, and they have limited range, and nagas are slow, so they're not a big danger. by the way, poison resistance for players is capped at one pip.


Cool, didn't know that.

Well, I slayed the dragon and managed to clear out Lair:6, now I'm on D12 and I think I finally found the Orc entrance, so I'm going to tackle that. I'm worried about my 15/15 AC/EV though. Here's an update on my character.

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.21.1-1-g345015f (webtiles) character file.

TheMadToker the Frost Mage (DsIE)                  Turns: 33500, Time: 09:34:29

Health: 104/104    AC: 15    Str:  9    XL:     14   Next: 7%
Magic:  35/35      EV: 15    Int: 18    God:    Wu Jian [****..]
Gold:   435        SH:  0    Dex: 21    Spells: 4/29 levels left

rFire    x . .     SeeInvis .   N - +4 halberd (venom)
rCold    + . .     Gourm    .   (shield currently unavailable)
rNeg     . . .     Faith    .   e - +5 ring mail {MR+}
rPois    .         Spirit   +   C - +1 hat
rElec    .         Reflect  .   (no cloak)
rCorr    .         Harm     .   L - +2 pair of gloves "Hulumid" {Dex+4}
MR       ++...                  g - +0 pair of boots
Stlth    ++........             v - amulet of guardian spirit
HPRegen  0.27/turn              D - ring of magical power
MPRegen  0.24/turn              m - ring of ice

@: no status effects
A: hooves 2, foul stench 2, powered by death 1, rot immunity, sanguine armour 3
a: Wall Jump, Serpent's Lash, Renounce Religion


You are on level 12 of the Dungeon.
You worship Wu Jian.
Wu Jian is greatly pleased with you.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 4 branches of the dungeon, and seen 20 of its levels.

You have collected 1253 gold pieces.
You have spent 818 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 f - a +0 fustibalus
 x - a +1 hunting sling of freezing
 N - a +4 halberd of venom (weapon)
Missiles
 A - 96 sling bullets (quivered)
Armour
 e - a +5 ring mail of magic resistance (worn)
 g - a +0 pair of boots (worn)
 p - the +4 ring mail of the Harvest {rPois rCorr}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It protects you from poison.
   It protects you from acid and corrosion.
 C - a +1 hat (worn)
 L - the +2 pair of gloves "Hulumid" (worn) {Dex+4}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   It affects your dexterity (+4).
Magical Staves
 s - an uncursed staff of wizardry
Jewellery
 m - a ring of ice (right hand)
 q - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
 v - an amulet of guardian spirit (around neck)
 D - a ring of magical power (left hand)
 E - an uncursed ring of wizardry
 U - an uncursed ring of protection from cold
Wands
 r - a wand of iceblast (8)
 F - a wand of random effects (4)
 X - a wand of digging (56)
Scrolls
 a - a scroll of teleportation
 b - a scroll of amnesia
 i - 6 scrolls of magic mapping
 k - 2 scrolls of fear
 l - 2 scrolls of immolation
 y - a scroll of remove curse
 M - 2 scrolls of identify
Potions
 j - a potion of heal wounds
 n - a potion of lignification
 t - a sapphire potion
 u - 2 potions of brilliance
 w - 2 potions of might
 z - a potion of curing
 G - 3 potions of flight
 I - a potion of magic
 K - a lumpy blue potion
 S - 3 potions of cancellation
 V - 2 potions of agility
 W - a fuming golden potion
Books
 h - a book of Misfortune   
   
    Spells                           Type                      Level
    a - Confusing Touch              Hexes                         1
    b - Confuse                      Hexes                         3
    c - Gell's Gravitas              Translocation                 3
    d - Petrify                      Transmutation/Earth           4
    e - Metabolic Englaciation       Hexes/Ice                     5
    f - Yara's Violent Unravelling   Hexes/Transmutation           5
 B - a book of Battle   
   
    Spells                           Type                      Level
    a - Infusion                     Charms                        1
    b - Shroud of Golubria           Charms/Translocation          2
    c - Song of Slaying              Charms                        2
    d - Spectral Weapon              Hexes/Charms                  3
    e - Regeneration                 Charms/Necromancy             3
 H - a book of Summonings   
   
    Spells                           Type                      Level
    a - Recall                       Summoning/Translocation       3
    b - Aura of Abjuration           Summoning                     5
    c - Summon Demon                 Summoning                     5
    d - Summon Forest                Summoning/Translocation       5
    e - Summon Mana Viper            Hexes/Summoning               5
    f - Shadow Creatures             Summoning                     6
 Y - a book of Party Tricks   
   
    Spells                           Type                      Level
    a - Summon Butterflies           Summoning                     1
    b - Apportation                  Translocation                 1
    c - Lesser Beckoning             Translocation                 3
    d - Tukima's Dance               Hexes                         3
    e - Alistair's Intoxication      Transmutation/Poison          5
    f - Invisibility                 Hexes                         6
Miscellaneous
 o - a lamp of fire
 J - a crystal ball of energy
Comestibles
 c - 19 rations
 d - 3 chunks of flesh


   Skills:
 - Level 7.7 Fighting
 * Level 8.9 Polearms
 - Level 7.5 Dodging
 - Level 1.7 Stealth
 - Level 6.4 Unarmed Combat
 - Level 8.1 Spellcasting
 - Level 5.2 Conjurations
 - Level 7.6 Hexes
 + Level 6.9 Charms
 + Level 3.4 Summonings
 - Level 10.0 Ice Magic
 - Level 5.0 Evocations


You have 4 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Spectral Weapon       Hex/Chrm       ####....     4%          3    #......
b - Throw Frost           Conj/Ice       ######       1%          2    None
c - Regeneration          Chrm/Necr      ###.......   21%         3    #......
d - Throw Icicle          Conj/Ice       ######..     12%         4    ###....
e - Summon Ice Beast      Ice/Summ       #####...     17%         4    ###....
f - Confuse               Hex            ####....     3%          3    #......
g - Tukima's Dance        Hex            ####....     3%          3    #......
h - Infusion              Chrm           ####         1%          1    None
i - Song of Slaying       Chrm           ####....     2%          2    None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (12/15)            Temple (1/1) D:6            Lair (6/6) D:8
 Shoals (1/4) Lair:4        Snake (0/4) Lair:4        Slime (0/5) Lair:6
   Orc: D:9-12     

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Wu Jian
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Jiyva

Shops:
D:4 [   D:7 =

Annotations:
D:4 2 transporters, Menkaure
Lair:6 1 runed door


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You have hoof-like feet.
You frequently emit foul miasma when damaged in melee.
You regenerate a little health from kills.
You are immune to rotting.
When seriously injured, your bleeding wounds create very thick armour. (AC +0)


Message History

You eat one of the 4 chunks of flesh. This raw flesh tastes terrible.
You see here a tomahawk.
Things that are here:
a halberd; a chain mail
Items here: ( )) [[ †
Okay, then.
Things that are here:
a halberd; a chain mail
You see here a tomahawk.
A - 96 sling bullets (gained 1)
i - 6 scrolls of magic mapping (gained 1)
M - 2 scrolls of identify
Items here: ( ))) [[ ††††
Okay, then.
Welcome back, TheMadToker the Demonspawn Ice Elementalist.
The Council says: Follow the Path!
Press ? for a list of commands and other information.
Welcome back, TheMadToker the Demonspawn Ice Elementalist.
The Council says: Follow the Path!
Press ? for a list of commands and other information.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  An ice dragon (Lair:6)
  Fannar (Lair:3)
  5 hydras
  A merfolk avatar (Lair:6)
  2 centaur warriors
  3 two-headed ogres
  A sea snake (Shoals:1)
  A fire crab (Lair:5)
  2 unseen horrors (D:11)
  An orc knight (D:12)
  Pikel (D:7)
  A deep elf mage (D:12)
  A cyclops (D:9)
  14 elephants
  A black mamba (Lair:4)
  7 komodo dragons
  5 spiny frogs
  2 rime drakes (Lair:6)
  3 polar bears (Lair:6)
  A wind drake (Lair:6)
  3 trolls
  A merfolk (Lair:4)
  3 hornets (Lair:5)
  11 blink frogs
  2 dream sheep (Lair:6)
  9 hippogriffs
  5 wyverns
  A basilisk (D:12)
  23 yaks
  A hungry ghost (D:11)
  3 nagas (Lair:4)
  Duvessa (D:7)
  7 water moccasins
  13 porcupines
  2 sky beasts
  2 slaves (D:7)
  2 black bears
  A necrophage (D:5)
  7 orc warriors
  4 ice beasts
  A phantom (D:8)
  6 ogres
  9 centaurs
  13 crocodiles
  A big kobold (D:8)
  A gnoll sergeant (D:5)
  11 bullfrogs
  Dowan (D:7)
  5 scorpions
  A wyvern skeleton (D:6)
  9 killer bees
  A howler monkey (D:4)
  5 crimson imps
  2 bullfrog zombies
  2 quasits (D:10)
  2 centaur zombies (D:11)
  10 hounds
  2 bullfrog skeletons
  4 jellies
  8 orc priests
  11 orc wizards
  2 centaur skeletons
  4 iguanas
  4 worker ants
  A hound zombie (D:6)
  A worker ant zombie (D:11)
  13 gnolls
  16 adders
  3 shadow imps
  3 white imps (Lair:6)
  An adder skeleton (D:5)
  A worm (D:3)
  A dart slug (D:3)
  4 leopard geckos
  36 orcs
  4 giant cockroaches
  20 goblins
  4 hobgoblins
  25 jackals
  A quokka (D:4)
  A ball python (D:8)
  5 bats
  6 frilled lizards
  6 kobolds
  A leopard gecko skeleton (D:4)
  A leopard gecko zombie (D:6)
  8 rats
  A fungus (Lair:5)
  A plant (Lair:6)
434 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  3 hydras
  A two-headed ogre (D:12)
  A skeletal warrior (D:12)
  An ugly thing (D:12)
  A manticore (Lair:6)
  A black mamba (Lair:6)
  2 elephants (Lair:6)
  A merfolk siren (Lair:4)
  5 spiny frogs (Lair:6)
  A rime drake (Lair:6)
  A komodo dragon (Lair:6)
  A troll (D:12)
  A wind drake (Lair:6)
  9 dream sheep (Lair:6)
  4 blink frogs (Lair:6)
  3 hippogriffs
  A water elemental (Shoals:1)
  A wyvern (Lair:6)
  2 yaks (Lair:6)
  2 basilisks
  2 nagas (Lair:4)
  4 water moccasins
  2 porcupines
  A black bear (D:6)
  A sky beast (D:5)
  2 orc warriors (D:12)
  An ogre (D:6)
  3 centaurs (D:12)
  4 crocodiles (Lair:6)
  6 killer bees
  2 crimson imps (D:6)
  2 orc priests (D:12)
  2 orc wizards
  An adder zombie (D:6)
  4 orcs
79 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  3 bushes (D:8)
  31 fungi
  34 plants
  12 spectral weapons
80 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 593 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | TheMadToker the Demonspawn Ice Elementalist began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 13/13 MP: 3/3
   131 | D:1      | Reached skill level 3 in Ice Magic
   213 | D:1      | Gained mutation: When seriously injured, your bleeding wounds create armour. (AC +0) [demonic ancestry]
   213 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 20/20 MP: 0/5
   253 | D:1      | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
   726 | D:1      | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Frost
  1050 | D:1      | Gained mutation: You have large cloven feet. [demonic ancestry]
  1050 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 26/26 MP: 4/6
  1352 | D:2      | Learned a level 3 spell: Ozocubu's Armour
  1747 | D:2      | Reached skill level 1 in Charms
  1866 | D:2      | Gained mutation: When seriously injured, your bleeding wounds create thick armour. (AC +0) [demonic ancestry]
  1866 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 31/33 MP: 2/7
  2620 | D:2      | Reached skill level 4 in Ice Magic
  2620 | D:2      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 24/39 MP: 1/8
  3945 | D:4      | Found Horupt's Armour Boutique.
  3996 | D:4      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
  3998 | D:4      | Noticed Menkaure
  4003 | D:4      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  4024 | D:4      | Found a transporter.
  4036 | D:4      | Found a transporter.
  4046 | D:4      | Gained mutation: You have hoof-like feet. [demonic ancestry]
  4046 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 44/47 MP: 4/9
  4945 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  5127 | D:4      | Bought a +2 robe of fire resistance for 247 gold pieces
  5221 | D:5      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 31/52 MP: 6/11
  5611 | D:5      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
  5623 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Ice Magic
  5659 | D:5      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
  5667 | D:5      | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
  6920 | D:5      | Gained mutation: You are immune to rotting. [demonic ancestry]
  6920 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 51/57 MP: 13/15
  6993 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
  7034 | D:6      | Reached skill level 1 in Unarmed Combat
  7467 | D:6      | Reached skill level 6 in Ice Magic
  7475 | D:6      | Learned a level 4 spell: Throw Icicle
  7480 | D:6      | Learned a level 4 spell: Summon Ice Beast
  7644 | D:6      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  7650 | D:6      | Reached skill level 1 in Summonings
  7652 | D:6      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  7669 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  7747 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of the Wu Jian Council
  7927 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations
  8649 | D:6      | Gained mutation: You may emit foul miasma when damaged in melee. [demonic ancestry]
  8649 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 58/62 MP: 16/16
  9577 | D:7      | Reached * piety under Wu Jian
  9582 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Unarmed Combat
 10005 | D:7      | Noticed Pikel
 10015 | D:7      | Killed Pikel
 10805 | D:7      | Noticed Duvessa
 10809 | D:7      | Noticed Dowan
 10814 | D:7      | Killed Dowan
 10819 | D:7      | Killed Duvessa
 10959 | D:7      | Found Zaibeiraf's Jewellery Boutique.
 11688 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 60/72 MP: 14/17
 11759 | D:8      | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 11763 | D:8      | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 12010 | D:7      | Killed a two-headed ogre
 12010 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
 12129 | D:7      | Killed a two-headed ogre
 12306 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 12610 | D:8      | Reached ** piety under Wu Jian
 13236 | D:8      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
 13243 | D:8      | Reached skill level 7 in Ice Magic
 13332 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 14297 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 14957 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 8 in Ice Magic
 15871 | Lair:1   | Gained mutation: You regenerate a little health from kills. [demonic ancestry]
 15871 | Lair:1   | Reached XP level 11. HP: 40/83 MP: 8/18
 16136 | D:8      | Learned a level 3 spell: Confuse
 16692 | D:9      | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 16704 | D:9      | Killed a two-headed ogre
 17405 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 17439 | D:9      | Learned a level 3 spell: Tukima's Dance
 17863 | D:10     | Reached *** piety under Wu Jian
 17863 | D:10     | Reached skill level 1 in Polearms
 17930 | D:10     | Reached skill level 5 in Hexes
 19047 | D:11     | Killed an unseen horror
 19086 | D:11     | Killed an unseen horror
 19566 | D:11     | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
 19751 | D:11     | Reached **** piety under Wu Jian
 19760 | D:11     | Learned a level 1 spell: Infusion
 19763 | D:11     | Learned a level 2 spell: Song of Slaying
 20539 | D:12     | Noticed an orc knight
 20547 | D:12     | Noticed a centaur warrior
 21130 | Lair:2   | Gained mutation: When seriously injured, your bleeding wounds create very thick armour. (AC +0) [demonic ancestry]
 21130 | Lair:2   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 71/91 MP: 4/22
 22375 | Lair:3   | Got a pair of shimmering gloves
 22386 | Lair:3   | Identified the +2 pair of gloves "Hulumid" {Dex+4} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts)
 22414 | Lair:3   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 22430 | Lair:3   | Killed a five-headed hydra
 22535 | Lair:3   | Noticed Fannar
 22558 | Lair:3   | Killed Fannar
 22558 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations
 22818 | D:8      | Learned a level 3 spell: Spectral Weapon
 23398 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 5 in Polearms
 24173 | Lair:4   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 24195 | Lair:4   | Killed a ten-headed hydra
 24577 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
 24821 | Lair:4   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 24827 | Lair:4   | Killed a six-headed hydra
 25052 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
 25788 | Lair:5   | Learned a level 3 spell: Regeneration
 25860 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 5 in Charms
 26277 | Lair:5   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 26290 | Lair:5   | Killed a five-headed hydra
 26290 | Lair:5   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 96/96 MP: 8/23
 26668 | Lair:6   | Entered Level 6 of the Lair of Beasts
 27331 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 9 in Ice Magic
 28553 | Lair:6   | Reached ***** piety under Wu Jian
 31094 | Shoals:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Shoals
 31677 | D:4      | Bought the +4 ring mail of the Harvest {rPois rCorr} for 571 gold pieces
 32228 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 10 in Ice Magic
 32576 | Lair:6   | Gained mutation: You frequently emit foul miasma when damaged in melee. [demonic ancestry]
 32576 | Lair:6   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 102/104 MP: 25/25
 32998 | Lair:6   | Found a runed door.
 32999 | Lair:6   | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
 33013 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 |
---------------+-------------------------------------------+-----
Ice Magic      |  3        4        5  6     8       10    | 10.0
Fighting       |     1     2  3           4  6  7          |  7.7
Charms         |        1  2                       5  6    |  6.9
Conjurations   |              2     4  5                   |  5.2
Spellcasting   |                 3  4  5        6  7     8 |  8.1
Unarmed Combat |                       3  6                |  6.4
Summonings     |                       2  3                |  3.4
Dodging        |                          3  6        7    |  7.5
Hexes          |                                5  7       |  7.6
Polearms       |                                4  7  8    |  8.9
Evocations     |                                3  5       |  5.0
Stealth        |                                           |  1.7

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Hand axe          |    11 |    12 |       |       |       ||    23
       Unarmed           |     2 |       |       |       |       ||     2
       Dagger            |    11 |     6 |       |       |       ||    17
       Kick              |     4 |     5 |    51 |    71 |       ||   131
       War axe           |       |     4 |       |       |       ||     4
       Halberd           |       |    14 |   263 |   696 |   319 ||  1292
       Flail             |       |       |    23 |       |       ||    23
       Fustibalus        |       |       |       |     9 |     5 ||    14
 Fire: Blowgun           |       |     6 |       |       |       ||     6
       Fustibalus        |       |       |       |    52 |    62 ||   114
       Hunting sling     |       |       |       |       |     9 ||     9
Throw: Tomahawk          |     4 |     5 |       |       |       ||     9
       Stone             |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
 Cast: Freeze            |    61 |    94 |    45 |     4 |       ||   204
       Throw Frost       |     1 |     7 |    12 |    65 |     9 ||    94
       Ozocubu's Armour  |       |     7 |    21 |     1 |       ||    29
       Summon Ice Beast  |       |       |    16 |    37 |   101 ||   154
       Throw Icicle      |       |       |     8 |    43 |    22 ||    73
       Confuse           |       |       |       |    13 |    13 ||    26
       Tukima's Dance    |       |       |       |     6 |     5 ||    11
       Song of Slaying   |       |       |       |     5 |       ||     5
       Infusion          |       |       |       |    10 |    13 ||    23
       Spectral Weapon   |       |       |       |    19 |    30 ||    49
       Regeneration      |       |       |       |       |     7 ||     7
Invok: Lunge             |       |       |     1 |    14 |     4 ||    19
       Whirlwind         |       |       |     4 |   174 |   127 ||   305
       Wall Jump         |       |       |       |    21 |    10 ||    31
       Serpent's Lash    |       |       |       |     5 |     7 ||    12
       Heavenly Storm    |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
Evoke: Wand              |       |    14 |     7 |    17 |    15 ||    53
       Box of beasts     |       |       |       |     1 |     4 ||     5
  Use: Scroll            |     7 |     3 |     7 |    30 |    10 ||    57
       Potion            |       |     1 |       |     5 |    18 ||    24
 Stab: Sleeping          |     1 |     1 |     7 |       |       ||     9
       Distracted        |       |       |     1 |     1 |     2 ||     4
       Confused          |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
  Eat: Chunk             |     4 |    12 |    15 |    36 |    24 ||    91
       Ration            |       |       |     4 |     7 |     5 ||    16
Armor: Robe              |    16 |    33 |   171 |       |       ||   220
       Leather armour    |       |       |    17 |    16 |       ||    33
       Ring mail         |       |       |       |   368 |   162 ||   530
       Skin              |       |       |       |       |    55 ||    55
Dodge: Dodged            |    51 |    82 |   282 |   629 |   215 ||  1259


I know I still have a ways to go, but I would really like to turn this run into a win, at the very least snag a rune or two. So should I do Snake or Shoal's after Orc? I believe the general consensus is to do Snake?

And about Snake... so your saying pois resist isn't as crucial as I feared? So would it be smarter to wear my +4 Ring Mail with rP+ or my +4 Ring Mail with MR?

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Post Monday, 18th June 2018, 21:02

Re: Looking for advice on my current run (DsIE)

themadtoker wrote:And about Snake... so your saying pois resist isn't as crucial as I feared? So would it be smarter to wear my +4 Ring Mail with rP+ or my +4 Ring Mail with MR?
there's seriously not much difference, having rPois does make Snake less tedious however (you won't have to rest as much) so I'd do that

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Post Monday, 18th June 2018, 21:06

Re: Looking for advice on my current run (DsIE)

I'd probably wear the MR one to avoid getting teleported into the rune vault on Snake:4. It won't make a big difference though, because your MR is still pretty bad.
3 runes : MiMo^Ru, HOFi^Beogh, TrMo^Yredelemnul, GrFi^Ru
4 runes : DDFi^Makhleb
5 runes : GrEE^Vehumet
15 runes : MiFi^Ru, NaWz^Sif Muna
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Post Monday, 18th June 2018, 21:14

Re: Looking for advice on my current run (DsIE)

Fingolfin wrote:I'd probably wear the MR one to avoid getting teleported into the rune vault on Snake:4. It won't make a big difference though, because your MR is still pretty bad.


Yeah, although it's a pretty decent run so far I haven't had much luck finding really good gear. Hopefully I'll pick up something nice soon, or maybe the shops in Orc will have something worthwhile.

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Post Monday, 18th June 2018, 22:57

Re: Looking for advice on my current run (DsIE)

Question: Ice Cave in Orc, how difficult will this be for me with only rC+?

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Post Monday, 18th June 2018, 23:58

Re: Looking for advice on my current run (DsIE)

themadtoker wrote:Question: Ice Cave in Orc, how difficult will this be for me with only rC+?

It's a risk. I usually go for it, even without rC, but it is dangerous and I am kinda reckless. Be prepared to bail if you see strong demons or ice dragons or a frost giant and you don't feel confident in your ability to kill them.
Really, if it seems a bit too dangerous, then it most definitely is and you should get the hell out of there. Luckily, it is usually easy to bail.
3 runes : MiMo^Ru, HOFi^Beogh, TrMo^Yredelemnul, GrFi^Ru
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Post Monday, 18th June 2018, 23:59

Re: Looking for advice on my current run (DsIE)

It's always easy to bail. Ice caves always have an exit near the entrance, if you encounter something too hard you can just leave.

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Post Tuesday, 19th June 2018, 05:09

Re: Looking for advice on my current run (DsIE)

duvessa wrote:It's always easy to bail. Ice caves always have an exit near the entrance, if you encounter something too hard you can just leave.


Yup, it was easy going until I saw a frost giant, debated with myself for almost 30 minutes :D but in the end I decided to strategically withdraw (i.e run away screaming). Ran a few errands IRL now I'm working on clearing Orc:2

Was reading your spell guide in the other topic (very nicely done, btw) so you don't think Song of Slaying is worth it huh? I can see that, I've only used it a couple times. Think I'm gonna free up the slots for something else.

Do you think it is too late in the game for me to focus on summoning?

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Post Tuesday, 19th June 2018, 08:32

Re: Looking for advice on my current run (DsIE)

I should be dead right now.

Just had a truly epic battle in Orc:2. If it wasn't for Wu Jian and my regen health from death mutation I would be long dead.

So I'm slowly making my way around Orc:2, taking care of what I come across without too much difficulty. Then the orc warlord popped into view, mind you I was already down do 5 magic points. At first I was going to teleport away but I had a few summons out so I said screw it. Needless to say, the warlord make quick work of my three ice beasts and spectral weapon, then he came for me. So I decided it was time to bang a hasty retreat, I read a scroll of teleportation then a scroll of fear and use serpent's lash to give me a good head start before the teleport kicked it.

It kicked in... and dumped me even further into the level, so now I'm completely surrounded by orcs, an orc high priest, orc sorcerers, orc knights and a troll and an ogre just for good measure... and here I am with 25 health and exhausted from the lash. I had no escape options, as I used my last tele scroll, not even so much as a blink or a haste to be had, so I said screw it.

I cast regeneration, infusion and then read my last scroll of fear, used heavenly storm and jumped head first into battle. What happened next was nothing short of wholesale slaughter, with heavenly storm enabled I spun from orc, to high priest, to knight, to troll and after I landed a couple good blows they just started dropping like flies, had my heavenly storm timer up over 20 at one point, after handing out death after death the orc warlord showed up again, by this time my exhaustion wore off so I used serpent's lash again and charged him. Dropped him in about 5 moves.

I think the final death toll was over 20. That heavenly storm is frigging awesome, I'm not even a strong fighter. I have 16/16 AC/EV, 10 strength and none of my combat abilities are over 10, yet I managed to slaughter everyone.

Good times, good times. So I popped back up to Orc:1 to heal and recharge now I'm going back down to Orc:2 to finish mopping up. I shouldn't expect another warlord should I? I'm really hoping I cleared out the majority of "things-wanting-to-stab-me-dead" Here's an update of my character for anyone who cares:

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 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.21.1-1-g345015f (webtiles) character file.

TheMadToker the Frost Mage (DsIE)                  Turns: 36385, Time: 11:03:34

Health: 112/112    AC: 16    Str: 10    XL:     15   Next: 54%
Magic:  16/36      EV: 16    Int: 18    God:    Wu Jian [****..]
Gold:   1004       SH:  0    Dex: 21    Spells: 5/30 levels left

rFire    + . .     SeeInvis .   N - +4 halberd (venom)
rCold    . . .     Gourm    .   (shield currently unavailable)
rNeg     . . .     Faith    .   e - +5 ring mail {MR+}
rPois    .         Spirit   +   C - +1 hat
rElec    .         Reflect  .   (no cloak)
rCorr    .         Harm     .   L - +2 pair of gloves "Hulumid" {Dex+4}
MR       ++...                  g - +0 pair of boots
Stlth    ++........             v - amulet of guardian spirit
HPRegen  0.28/turn              D - ring of magical power
MPRegen  0.25/turn              q - ring of protection from fire

@: no status effects
A: hooves 2, foul stench 2, powered by death 1, rot immunity, sanguine armour 3
a: Wall Jump, Serpent's Lash, Renounce Religion


You are on level 1 of the Orcish Mines.
You worship Wu Jian.
Wu Jian is greatly pleased with you.
You are very hungry.

You have visited 5 branches of the dungeon, and seen 22 of its levels.
You have also visited: Ice Cave.

You have collected 1871 gold pieces.
You have spent 867 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 d - a vampiric short sword
 f - a +0 fustibalus
 j - a dire flail of draining
 x - a +1 hunting sling of freezing
 N - a +4 halberd of venom (weapon)
Missiles
 A - 100 sling bullets (quivered)
Armour
 e - a +5 ring mail of magic resistance (worn)
 g - a +0 pair of boots (worn)
 p - the +4 ring mail of the Harvest {rPois rCorr}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It protects you from poison.
   It protects you from acid and corrosion.
 C - a +1 hat (worn)
 L - the +2 pair of gloves "Hulumid" (worn) {Dex+4}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   It affects your dexterity (+4).
 O - a +2 robe
Magical Staves
 s - an uncursed staff of wizardry
Jewellery
 m - an uncursed ring of ice
 q - a ring of protection from fire (right hand)
 v - an amulet of guardian spirit (around neck)
 D - a ring of magical power (left hand)
 E - an uncursed ring of wizardry
 U - an uncursed ring of protection from cold
Wands
 r - a wand of iceblast (1)
 F - a wand of random effects (4)
 X - a wand of digging (55)
Scrolls
 b - 2 scrolls of amnesia
 i - 6 scrolls of magic mapping
 l - a scroll of immolation
 y - 2 scrolls of remove curse
Potions
 n - a potion of lignification
 t - a sapphire potion
 u - 2 potions of brilliance
 w - 2 potions of might
 z - a potion of curing
 G - 3 potions of flight
 K - a lumpy blue potion
 S - 3 potions of cancellation
 V - 2 potions of agility
Books
 h - a book of Misfortune   
   
    Spells                           Type                      Level
    a - Confusing Touch              Hexes                         1
    b - Confuse                      Hexes                         3
    c - Gell's Gravitas              Translocation                 3
    d - Petrify                      Transmutation/Earth           4
    e - Metabolic Englaciation       Hexes/Ice                     5
    f - Yara's Violent Unravelling   Hexes/Transmutation           5
 B - a book of Battle   
   
    Spells                           Type                      Level
    a - Infusion                     Charms                        1
    b - Shroud of Golubria           Charms/Translocation          2
    c - Song of Slaying              Charms                        2
    d - Spectral Weapon              Hexes/Charms                  3
    e - Regeneration                 Charms/Necromancy             3
 H - a book of Summonings   
   
    Spells                           Type                      Level
    a - Recall                       Summoning/Translocation       3
    b - Aura of Abjuration           Summoning                     5
    c - Summon Demon                 Summoning                     5
    d - Summon Forest                Summoning/Translocation       5
    e - Summon Mana Viper            Hexes/Summoning               5
    f - Shadow Creatures             Summoning                     6
 Y - a book of Party Tricks   
   
    Spells                           Type                      Level
    a - Summon Butterflies           Summoning                     1
    b - Apportation                  Translocation                 1
    c - Lesser Beckoning             Translocation                 3
    d - Tukima's Dance               Hexes                         3
    e - Alistair's Intoxication      Transmutation/Poison          5
    f - Invisibility                 Hexes                         6
Miscellaneous
 o - a lamp of fire (inert)
 J - a crystal ball of energy
Comestibles
 c - 18 rations
 M - 3 chunks of flesh


   Skills:
 - Level 8.8 Fighting
 - Level 9.9 Polearms
 - Level 5.0 Armour
 - Level 8.0 Dodging
 - Level 1.7 Stealth
 - Level 6.4 Unarmed Combat
 - Level 8.4 Spellcasting
 - Level 5.2 Conjurations
 - Level 8.0 Hexes
 - Level 6.9 Charms
 + Level 4.9 Summonings
 - Level 10.0 Ice Magic
 - Level 5.0 Evocations


You have 5 spell levels left.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Spectral Weapon       Hex/Chrm       ####....     3%          3    None
b - Throw Frost           Conj/Ice       #####.       1%          2    None
c - Regeneration          Chrm/Necr      ###.......   16%         3    None
d - Throw Icicle          Conj/Ice       #####...     10%         4    ###....
e - Summon Ice Beast      Ice/Summ       ####....     10%         4    ###....
f - Confuse               Hex            #####...     2%          3    None
g - Tukima's Dance        Hex            #####...     2%          3    None
h - Infusion              Chrm           ####         1%          1    None
i - Song of Slaying       Chrm           ####....     1%          2    None


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (12/15)            Temple (1/1) D:6            Lair (6/6) D:8
 Shoals (1/4) Lair:4        Snake (0/4) Lair:4        Slime (0/5) Lair:6
    Orc (2/2) D:12       
   Elf: Orc:2       

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Wu Jian
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh
Jiyva

Shops:
D:4 [   D:7 =   Orc:1 :   Orc:2 *([

Annotations:
D:4 2 transporters, Menkaure
Lair:6 1 runed door


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You have hoof-like feet.
You frequently emit foul miasma when damaged in melee.
You regenerate a little health from kills.
You are immune to rotting.
When seriously injured, your bleeding wounds create very thick armour. (AC +0)


Message History

The orc high priest is almost dead.
The orc closely misses you.
The orc high priest completely misses you.
You slash the orc high priest!
You kill the orc high priest!
The Council accepts your kill.
The orc closely misses you.
You hit the orc. The orc is poisoned.
The orc is almost dead.
You kill the orc!
The Council accepts your kill.
You slash the fungus!
The fungus is severely damaged.
You feel less exhausted.
You are feeling very hungry.
Things that are here:
a dire flail; a chain mail; an orc corpse
There is a stone staircase leading up here.
You climb upwards.
There is a stone staircase leading down here.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  An orc warlord (Orc:2)
  An ettin (Orc:1)
  An ice dragon (Lair:6)
  Fannar (Lair:3)
  5 hydras
  A merfolk avatar (Lair:6)
  2 centaur warriors
  3 two-headed ogres
  An orc high priest (Orc:2)
  A sea snake (Shoals:1)
  A fire crab (Lair:5)
  2 unseen horrors (D:11)
  5 orc knights
  Pikel (D:7)
  2 orc sorcerers (Orc:2)
  A deep elf mage (D:12)
  2 cyclopes
  14 elephants
  A black mamba (Lair:4)
  7 komodo dragons
  5 spiny frogs
  4 rime drakes
  15 polar bears
  A wind drake (Lair:6)
  6 trolls
  A merfolk (Lair:4)
  3 hornets (Lair:5)
  11 blink frogs
  2 dream sheep (Lair:6)
  9 hippogriffs
  5 wyverns
  A basilisk (D:12)
  31 yaks
  A hungry ghost (D:11)
  5 wargs
  3 nagas (Lair:4)
  Duvessa (D:7)
  7 water moccasins
  13 porcupines
  2 sky beasts
  2 slaves (D:7)
  2 black bears
  A necrophage (D:5)
  21 orc warriors
  4 ice beasts
  A phantom (D:8)
  10 ogres
  8 wolves (IceCv)
  9 centaurs
  13 crocodiles
  A big kobold (D:8)
  A gnoll sergeant (D:5)
  11 bullfrogs
  Dowan (D:7)
  5 scorpions
  A wyvern skeleton (D:6)
  9 killer bees
  A howler monkey (D:4)
  5 crimson imps
  2 bullfrog zombies
  2 quasits (D:10)
  2 centaur zombies (D:11)
  10 hounds
  2 bullfrog skeletons
  4 jellies
  10 orc priests
  19 orc wizards
  2 centaur skeletons
  4 iguanas
  4 worker ants
  A hound zombie (D:6)
  A worker ant zombie (D:11)
  13 gnolls
  16 adders
  3 shadow imps
  3 white imps (Lair:6)
  An adder skeleton (D:5)
  A worm (D:3)
  A dart slug (D:3)
  4 leopard geckos
  56 orcs
  4 giant cockroaches
  20 goblins
  4 hobgoblins
  25 jackals
  A quokka (D:4)
  A ball python (D:8)
  5 bats
  6 frilled lizards
  6 kobolds
  A leopard gecko skeleton (D:4)
  A leopard gecko zombie (D:6)
  8 rats
  2 fungi
  A plant (Lair:6)
531 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  3 hydras
  A two-headed ogre (D:12)
  A skeletal warrior (D:12)
  An ugly thing (D:12)
  An orc knight (Orc:2)
  2 orc sorcerers (Orc:2)
  A manticore (Lair:6)
  A black mamba (Lair:6)
  2 elephants (Lair:6)
  A merfolk siren (Lair:4)
  5 spiny frogs (Lair:6)
  A rime drake (Lair:6)
  A komodo dragon (Lair:6)
  A troll (D:12)
  A wind drake (Lair:6)
  9 dream sheep (Lair:6)
  4 blink frogs (Lair:6)
  3 hippogriffs
  A water elemental (Shoals:1)
  A wyvern (Lair:6)
  2 yaks (Lair:6)
  2 basilisks
  2 nagas (Lair:4)
  2 wargs
  4 water moccasins
  2 porcupines
  A black bear (D:6)
  A sky beast (D:5)
  6 orc warriors
  2 ogres
  3 centaurs (D:12)
  4 crocodiles (Lair:6)
  6 killer bees
  2 crimson imps (D:6)
  3 orc priests
  2 orc wizards
  An adder zombie (D:6)
  11 orcs
97 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  3 bushes (D:8)
  45 fungi
  34 plants
  24 spectral weapons
106 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 734 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | TheMadToker the Demonspawn Ice Elementalist began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 13/13 MP: 3/3
   131 | D:1      | Reached skill level 3 in Ice Magic
   213 | D:1      | Gained mutation: When seriously injured, your bleeding wounds create armour. (AC +0) [demonic ancestry]
   213 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 20/20 MP: 0/5
   253 | D:1      | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
   726 | D:1      | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Frost
  1050 | D:1      | Gained mutation: You have large cloven feet. [demonic ancestry]
  1050 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 26/26 MP: 4/6
  1352 | D:2      | Learned a level 3 spell: Ozocubu's Armour
  1747 | D:2      | Reached skill level 1 in Charms
  1866 | D:2      | Gained mutation: When seriously injured, your bleeding wounds create thick armour. (AC +0) [demonic ancestry]
  1866 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 31/33 MP: 2/7
  2620 | D:2      | Reached skill level 4 in Ice Magic
  2620 | D:2      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 24/39 MP: 1/8
  3945 | D:4      | Found Horupt's Armour Boutique.
  3996 | D:4      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
  3998 | D:4      | Noticed Menkaure
  4003 | D:4      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  4024 | D:4      | Found a transporter.
  4036 | D:4      | Found a transporter.
  4046 | D:4      | Gained mutation: You have hoof-like feet. [demonic ancestry]
  4046 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 44/47 MP: 4/9
  4945 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  5127 | D:4      | Bought a +2 robe of fire resistance for 247 gold pieces
  5221 | D:5      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 31/52 MP: 6/11
  5611 | D:5      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
  5623 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Ice Magic
  5659 | D:5      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
  5667 | D:5      | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
  6920 | D:5      | Gained mutation: You are immune to rotting. [demonic ancestry]
  6920 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 51/57 MP: 13/15
  6993 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
  7034 | D:6      | Reached skill level 1 in Unarmed Combat
  7467 | D:6      | Reached skill level 6 in Ice Magic
  7475 | D:6      | Learned a level 4 spell: Throw Icicle
  7480 | D:6      | Learned a level 4 spell: Summon Ice Beast
  7644 | D:6      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  7650 | D:6      | Reached skill level 1 in Summonings
  7652 | D:6      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  7669 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  7747 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of the Wu Jian Council
  7927 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations
  8649 | D:6      | Gained mutation: You may emit foul miasma when damaged in melee. [demonic ancestry]
  8649 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 58/62 MP: 16/16
  9577 | D:7      | Reached * piety under Wu Jian
  9582 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Unarmed Combat
 10005 | D:7      | Noticed Pikel
 10015 | D:7      | Killed Pikel
 10805 | D:7      | Noticed Duvessa
 10809 | D:7      | Noticed Dowan
 10814 | D:7      | Killed Dowan
 10819 | D:7      | Killed Duvessa
 10959 | D:7      | Found Zaibeiraf's Jewellery Boutique.
 11688 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 60/72 MP: 14/17
 11759 | D:8      | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 11763 | D:8      | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 12010 | D:7      | Killed a two-headed ogre
 12010 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
 12129 | D:7      | Killed a two-headed ogre
 12306 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 12610 | D:8      | Reached ** piety under Wu Jian
 13236 | D:8      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
 13243 | D:8      | Reached skill level 7 in Ice Magic
 13332 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 14297 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 14957 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 8 in Ice Magic
 15871 | Lair:1   | Gained mutation: You regenerate a little health from kills. [demonic ancestry]
 15871 | Lair:1   | Reached XP level 11. HP: 40/83 MP: 8/18
 16136 | D:8      | Learned a level 3 spell: Confuse
 16692 | D:9      | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 16704 | D:9      | Killed a two-headed ogre
 17405 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 17439 | D:9      | Learned a level 3 spell: Tukima's Dance
 17863 | D:10     | Reached *** piety under Wu Jian
 17863 | D:10     | Reached skill level 1 in Polearms
 17930 | D:10     | Reached skill level 5 in Hexes
 19047 | D:11     | Killed an unseen horror
 19086 | D:11     | Killed an unseen horror
 19566 | D:11     | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
 19751 | D:11     | Reached **** piety under Wu Jian
 19760 | D:11     | Learned a level 1 spell: Infusion
 19763 | D:11     | Learned a level 2 spell: Song of Slaying
 20539 | D:12     | Noticed an orc knight
 20547 | D:12     | Noticed a centaur warrior
 21130 | Lair:2   | Gained mutation: When seriously injured, your bleeding wounds create very thick armour. (AC +0) [demonic ancestry]
 21130 | Lair:2   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 71/91 MP: 4/22
 22375 | Lair:3   | Got a pair of shimmering gloves
 22386 | Lair:3   | Identified the +2 pair of gloves "Hulumid" {Dex+4} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts)
 22414 | Lair:3   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 22430 | Lair:3   | Killed a five-headed hydra
 22535 | Lair:3   | Noticed Fannar
 22558 | Lair:3   | Killed Fannar
 22558 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations
 22818 | D:8      | Learned a level 3 spell: Spectral Weapon
 23398 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 5 in Polearms
 24173 | Lair:4   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 24195 | Lair:4   | Killed a ten-headed hydra
 24577 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
 24821 | Lair:4   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 24827 | Lair:4   | Killed a six-headed hydra
 25052 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
 25788 | Lair:5   | Learned a level 3 spell: Regeneration
 25860 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 5 in Charms
 26277 | Lair:5   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 26290 | Lair:5   | Killed a five-headed hydra
 26290 | Lair:5   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 96/96 MP: 8/23
 26668 | Lair:6   | Entered Level 6 of the Lair of Beasts
 27331 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 9 in Ice Magic
 28553 | Lair:6   | Reached ***** piety under Wu Jian
 31094 | Shoals:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Shoals
 31677 | D:4      | Bought the +4 ring mail of the Harvest {rPois rCorr} for 571 gold pieces
 32228 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 10 in Ice Magic
 32576 | Lair:6   | Gained mutation: You frequently emit foul miasma when damaged in melee. [demonic ancestry]
 32576 | Lair:6   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 102/104 MP: 25/25
 32998 | Lair:6   | Found a runed door.
 32999 | Lair:6   | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
 33013 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 33500 | D:12     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 33580 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 33580 | Orc:1    | Found Fip Wez's Book Shoppe.
 33908 | Orc:1    | Found a frozen archway.
 33985 | IceCv    | Entered an ice cave
 34661 | IceCv    | Noticed a frost giant
 35577 | Orc:2    | Entered Level 2 of the Orcish Mines
 35717 | Orc:2    | Found Timus's General Store.
 35728 | Orc:2    | Bought a scroll of amnesia for 49 gold pieces
 35869 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 1 in Armour
 35996 | Orc:2    | Paralysed by an orc sorcerer for 7 turns
 36108 | Orc:2    | Reached XP level 15. HP: 112/112 MP: 27/27
 36165 | Orc:2    | Found Jihoatai's Antique Weapon Shoppe.
 36204 | Orc:2    | Found Bolamani's Antique Armour Shoppe.
 36257 | Orc:2    | Noticed an orc warlord
 36282 | Orc:2    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 36311 | Orc:2    | Killed an orc warlord
 36314 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 5 in Armour

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 |
---------------+----------------------------------------------+-----
Ice Magic      |  3        4        5  6     8       10       | 10.0
Fighting       |     1     2  3           4  6  7        8    |  8.8
Charms         |        1  2                       5  6       |  6.9
Conjurations   |              2     4  5                      |  5.2
Spellcasting   |                 3  4  5        6  7     8    |  8.4
Unarmed Combat |                       3  6                   |  6.4
Summonings     |                       2  3              4    |  4.9
Dodging        |                          3  6        7  8    |  8.0
Hexes          |                                5  7     8    |  8.0
Polearms       |                                4  7  8  9    |  9.9
Evocations     |                                3  5          |  5.0
Armour         |                                         3  5 |  5.0
Stealth        |                                              |  1.7

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Hand axe          |    11 |    12 |       |       |       ||    23
       Unarmed           |     2 |       |       |       |       ||     2
       Dagger            |    11 |     6 |       |       |       ||    17
       Kick              |     4 |     5 |    51 |    71 |       ||   131
       War axe           |       |     4 |       |       |       ||     4
       Halberd           |       |    14 |   263 |   696 |   585 ||  1558
       Flail             |       |       |    23 |       |       ||    23
       Fustibalus        |       |       |       |     9 |     5 ||    14
 Fire: Blowgun           |       |     6 |       |       |       ||     6
       Fustibalus        |       |       |       |    52 |    68 ||   120
       Hunting sling     |       |       |       |       |    24 ||    24
Throw: Tomahawk          |     4 |     5 |       |       |       ||     9
       Stone             |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
 Cast: Freeze            |    61 |    94 |    45 |     4 |       ||   204
       Throw Frost       |     1 |     7 |    12 |    65 |     9 ||    94
       Ozocubu's Armour  |       |     7 |    21 |     1 |       ||    29
       Summon Ice Beast  |       |       |    16 |    37 |   132 ||   185
       Throw Icicle      |       |       |     8 |    43 |    22 ||    73
       Confuse           |       |       |       |    13 |    29 ||    42
       Tukima's Dance    |       |       |       |     6 |     7 ||    13
       Song of Slaying   |       |       |       |     5 |       ||     5
       Infusion          |       |       |       |    10 |    29 ||    39
       Spectral Weapon   |       |       |       |    19 |    59 ||    78
       Regeneration      |       |       |       |       |    13 ||    13
Invok: Lunge             |       |       |     1 |    14 |     9 ||    24
       Whirlwind         |       |       |     4 |   174 |   213 ||   391
       Wall Jump         |       |       |       |    21 |    15 ||    36
       Serpent's Lash    |       |       |       |     5 |    13 ||    18
       Heavenly Storm    |       |       |       |       |     2 ||     2
Evoke: Wand              |       |    14 |     7 |    17 |    23 ||    61
       Box of beasts     |       |       |       |     1 |     4 ||     5
       Lamp of fire      |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
  Use: Scroll            |     7 |     3 |     7 |    30 |    16 ||    63
       Potion            |       |     1 |       |     5 |    21 ||    27
 Stab: Sleeping          |     1 |     1 |     7 |       |       ||     9
       Distracted        |       |       |     1 |     1 |     4 ||     6
       Confused          |       |       |       |     1 |     5 ||     6
  Eat: Chunk             |     4 |    12 |    15 |    36 |    33 ||   100
       Ration            |       |       |     4 |     7 |     6 ||    17
Armor: Robe              |    16 |    33 |   171 |       |       ||   220
       Leather armour    |       |       |    17 |    16 |       ||    33
       Ring mail         |       |       |       |   368 |   246 ||   614
       Skin              |       |       |       |       |    55 ||    55
Dodge: Dodged            |    51 |    82 |   282 |   629 |   398 ||  1442
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Post Tuesday, 19th June 2018, 12:12

Three things from my personal experience concerning questions above:

  • I don't dare to do snake/spider without rPois (tough players do, I know)
  • I don't dare to do ice caves without rC+
  • duvessa's spell guide and tier lists are really good for looking things up - no matter if you play crawl for some weeks or many years. However, I strongly disagree with the rating of some spells. E.g., I consider song of slaying to be really good.

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Post Tuesday, 19th June 2018, 18:17

Re: Looking for advice on my current run (DsIE)

Snake and spider without rP are basically "don't fight lots of stuff at once, fight things carefully, rest a ton, have some !curing in case of emergencies." It's tedious but actually-dangerous situations are pretty rare.

A few things:

* You've probably figured this out by now, but teleporting on unexplored levels — especially branch ends — is something to reserve for dire, dire emergencies.
* Unless the warlord has a ranged attack (or reaching weapon), you don't need more than a one-square head start. Don't think of it as "running away screaming" but "walking casually away." You can basically walk away from normal-speed monsters all day long.
* Might is really good and probably would have helped you in your huge fight.
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Post Tuesday, 19th June 2018, 19:19

Re: Looking for advice on my current run (DsIE)

Thanks for the input. And yeah, good point, I don't know why I didn't think to quaff a might potion while I was fighting.

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Post Tuesday, 19th June 2018, 19:37

Re: Looking for advice on my current run (DsIE)

Is there a way to eat when you don't need to? I wanted to equip a vampiric blade, but as I'm not full or hungry I can't.
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Post Tuesday, 19th June 2018, 20:06

Re: Looking for advice on my current run (DsIE)

themadtoker wrote:Is there a way to eat when you don't need to? I wanted to equip a vampiric blade, but as I'm not full or hungry I can't.

You can eat rations.
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Post Tuesday, 19th June 2018, 20:53

Re: Looking for advice on my current run (DsIE)

Here we go again!

https://imgur.com/a/87TAYyB

2 Orc Warlords this time...

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Post Tuesday, 19th June 2018, 21:02

Re: Looking for advice on my current run (DsIE)

So, it's almost definitely too late for this advice, (and you're PROBABLY fine with storm up,) but you can just... walk away from those orcs. The sorcerer poses some threat, but the rest can't catch you if you just walk away, and serpent's lash will let you run the last little bit so they can't even follow you up stairs. Fighting multiple threats at once is inadvisable.

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Post Tuesday, 19th June 2018, 21:53

Re: Looking for advice on my current run (DsIE)

Stonar wrote:So, it's almost definitely too late for this advice, (and you're PROBABLY fine with storm up,) but you can just... walk away from those orcs. The sorcerer poses some threat, but the rest can't catch you if you just walk away, and serpent's lash will let you run the last little bit so they can't even follow you up stairs. Fighting multiple threats at once is inadvisable.


Yeah I know it was silly but I tore into them for a little while, got most of them and one of the Warlords, then made a break for Orc:1 to rest and recover. I think there are only a handful left, with the only real threat being the other Warlord, so I should be ok.

I also found a scroll of aquirement in one of the shops. Any suggestions on what I should ask for, given my characters skills/gear? Because I honestly have no idea what to ask for. :?:
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Post Tuesday, 19th June 2018, 22:01

Re: Looking for advice on my current run (DsIE)

themadtoker wrote:I also found a scroll of aquirement in one of the shops. Any suggestions on what I should ask for, given my characters skills/gear? Because I honestly have no idea what to ask for.

I have no idea what the current consensus on acquirement strategy is, but personally I would go for either weapon (hoping for a demon trident) or armour (you have no cloak).
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Post Wednesday, 20th June 2018, 00:01

Re: Looking for advice on my current run (DsIE)

themadtoker wrote:Is there a way to eat when you don't need to? I wanted to equip a vampiric blade, but as I'm not full or hungry I can't.

If you mean the vamp short sword in your inventory, it's not going to be a very effective weapon.
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Post Wednesday, 20th June 2018, 00:29

Re: Looking for advice on my current run (DsIE)

njvack wrote:
themadtoker wrote:Is there a way to eat when you don't need to? I wanted to equip a vampiric blade, but as I'm not full or hungry I can't.

If you mean the vamp short sword in your inventory, it's not going to be a very effective weapon.


I didn't plan on really using it, I'm perfectly happy with my +4 venom halberd at the moment, just wanted to know for future reference, but any thoughts on what I should use the scroll of aquirement on?

EDIT: Nevermind just saw the post above. Hmm... armor sounds good, I'll take any AC I can get.

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Post Wednesday, 20th June 2018, 07:39

Re: Looking for advice on my current run (DsIE)

Well I used the scroll and ended up gaining a +2 Helm of Intelligence, so that worked out good.

Also decided to memorize summon mana viper, I hope it is half as useful as it sounds. It was either that, or summon demon. Am I right in thinking the viper is more useful? Spellcasters are a big pain in my arse so I figured that would be more useful then the demon.

I was also looking at Shroud of Golubria, but is it useful in the mid-late game? I'm looking for anything that can help my relatively low AC and HP.

At any rate, I'm cleaning out Orc:2 then I guess D12-15 is next, followed by snake. Is that the correct order to tackle them?

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Post Wednesday, 20th June 2018, 08:00

Re: Looking for advice on my current run (DsIE)

Both are very good: a pack of mana vipers will make any spellcaster pretty much harmless.
Two or three demons will kill anything at this point of the game. However the demon may be hostile - depending on spellpower - so you should use the spell nearby a staircase or in situation where an hostile summon instead of a friendly one won't screw you.

I'd memorize mana vipers, and avoid summon demon for now because being a new player that spell could ruin your day.
Shorud of golubria is like 10hpish so it's always good to use, as long as you remember to cast it. I'd also memorize ozocubu armor if you are in robe\leather.

Yes the order if quite correct - you may do D before Orc, if Orc spawn some nasty monster.
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Post Wednesday, 20th June 2018, 08:25

Re: Looking for advice on my current run (DsIE)

nago wrote:Both are very good: a pack of mana vipers will make any spellcaster pretty much harmless.
Two or three demons will kill anything at this point of the game. However the demon may be hostile - depending on spellpower - so you should use the spell nearby a staircase or in situation where an hostile summon instead of a friendly one won't screw you.

I'd memorize mana vipers, and avoid summon demon for now because being a new player that spell could ruin your day.
Shorud of golubria is like 10hpish so it's always good to use, as long as you remember to cast it. I'd also memorize ozocubu armor if you are in robe\leather.

Yes the order if quite correct - you may do D before Orc, if Orc spawn some nasty monster.


Well, I"m not quite a new player, I have around 360 games under my belt :D I'm just not the best or most knowledgeable player, hence this topic. :geek: Never gotten further then collecting 2 runes.

So, I have ringmail +5 (MR+) so ozocubu is out. I did just score Boots of Flying and +2 gloves (MR++) so I ditched the +2 (dex+4) gloves I was wearing. Also picked up a couple of useful spellbooks (Dreams and Almanac of Clay and Beguiling) but my spells are already all over the place, so although there are some spells I would like from them I dunno if I will be able to split my training much more then I am. But I did go with the mana vipers.

So Orc is done, now I'm off to D:12. Here's how I'm looking so far, any suggestions, comments or insults would be appreciated ;)

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TheMadToker the Frost Mage (DsIE)                  Turns: 38617, Time: 12:15:21

Health: 112/112    AC: 19    Str: 10    XL:     15   Next: 78%
Magic:  36/36      EV: 15    Int: 21    God:    Wu Jian [***...]
Gold:   253        SH:  0    Dex: 17    Spells: 0/30 levels left

rFire    x . .     SeeInvis .   N - +4 halberd (venom)
rCold    + . .     Gourm    .   (shield currently unavailable)
rNeg     . . .     Faith    .   e - +5 ring mail {MR+}
rPois    .         Spirit   +   j - +2 helmet {Int+3}
rElec    .         Reflect  .   (no cloak)
rCorr    .         Harm     .   Q - +2 pair of gloves "Deil" {MR++}
MR       ++++.                  O - +0 pair of boots {Fly}
Stlth    +.........             v - amulet of guardian spirit
HPRegen  0.28/turn              D - ring of magical power
MPRegen  0.25/turn              m - ring of ice

@: flying
A: hooves 2, foul stench 2, powered by death 1, rot immunity, sanguine armour 3
a: Wall Jump, Serpent's Lash, Renounce Religion, Stop Flying


You are on level 2 of the Orcish Mines.
You worship Wu Jian.
Wu Jian is most pleased with you.
You are very hungry.

You have visited 5 branches of the dungeon, and seen 22 of its levels.
You have also visited: Ice Cave.

You have collected 2446 gold pieces.
You have spent 2193 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 a - a +0 glaive of protection
 f - a +0 fustibalus
 r - a +0 mace of venom
 x - a +1 hunting sling of freezing
 N - a +4 halberd of venom (weapon)
Missiles
 A - 100 sling bullets (quivered)
Armour
 e - a +5 ring mail of magic resistance (worn)
 j - a +2 helmet of intelligence (worn)
 p - the +4 ring mail of the Harvest {rPois rCorr}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It protects you from poison.
   It protects you from acid and corrosion.
 w - a +1 robe of cold resistance
 I - a +2 robe of magic resistance
 L - the +2 pair of gloves "Hulumid" {Dex+4}
   (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   It affects your dexterity (+4).
 M - a +2 ring mail of fire resistance
 O - a +0 pair of boots of flying (worn)
 Q - the +2 pair of gloves "Deil" (worn) {MR++}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments.
Magical Staves
 s - an uncursed staff of wizardry
 P - an uncursed staff of summoning
Jewellery
 m - a ring of ice (right hand)
 q - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
 v - an amulet of guardian spirit (around neck)
 D - a ring of magical power (left hand)
 E - an uncursed ring of wizardry
 U - an uncursed ring of protection from cold
Wands
 F - a wand of random effects (4)
 X - a wand of digging (55)
Scrolls
 b - 2 scrolls of amnesia
 d - a scroll of identify
 i - 6 scrolls of magic mapping
 l - a scroll of immolation
 y - 2 scrolls of remove curse
Potions
 n - a potion of lignification
 t - a sapphire potion
 u - 3 potions of brilliance
 G - 3 potions of flight
 K - a lumpy blue potion
 S - 3 potions of cancellation
 V - a potion of agility
Books
 h - a book of Misfortune   
   
    Spells                           Type                      Level
    a - Confusing Touch              Hexes                         1
    b - Confuse                      Hexes                         3
    c - Gell's Gravitas              Translocation                 3
    d - Petrify                      Transmutation/Earth           4
    e - Metabolic Englaciation       Hexes/Ice                     5
    f - Yara's Violent Unravelling   Hexes/Transmutation           5
 k - a book of Dreams   
   
    Spells                           Type                      Level
    a - Ensorcelled Hibernation      Hexes/Ice                     2
    b - Borgnjor's Vile Clutch       Necromancy/Earth              5
    c - Silence                      Hexes/Air                     5
    d - Darkness                     Hexes                         6
    e - Shadow Creatures             Summoning                     6
 B - a book of Battle   
   
    Spells                           Type                      Level
    a - Infusion                     Charms                        1
    b - Shroud of Golubria           Charms/Translocation          2
    c - Song of Slaying              Charms                        2
    d - Spectral Weapon              Hexes/Charms                  3
    e - Regeneration                 Charms/Necromancy             3
 C - Yhiatt's Almanac of Clay and Beguiling
   (You found it on level 2 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
    Spells                           Type                      Level
    a - Dazzling Spray               Conjuration/Hexes             3
    b - Confuse                      Hexes                         3
    c - Leda's Liquefaction          Hexes/Earth                   4
    d - Cause Fear                   Hexes                         4
    e - Yara's Violent Unravelling   Hexes/Transmutation           5
 H - a book of Summonings   
   
    Spells                           Type                      Level
    a - Recall                       Summoning/Translocation       3
    b - Aura of Abjuration           Summoning                     5
    c - Summon Demon                 Summoning                     5
    d - Summon Forest                Summoning/Translocation       5
    e - Summon Mana Viper            Hexes/Summoning               5
    f - Shadow Creatures             Summoning                     6
 Y - a book of Party Tricks   
   
    Spells                           Type                      Level
    a - Summon Butterflies           Summoning                     1
    b - Apportation                  Translocation                 1
    c - Lesser Beckoning             Translocation                 3
    d - Tukima's Dance               Hexes                         3
    e - Alistair's Intoxication      Transmutation/Poison          5
    f - Invisibility                 Hexes                         6
Miscellaneous
 o - a lamp of fire
 z - a phantom mirror
 J - a crystal ball of energy
Comestibles
 c - 17 rations


   Skills:
 - Level 8.8 Fighting
 - Level 9.9 Polearms
 + Level 6.3 Armour
 - Level 8.0 Dodging
 - Level 1.7 Stealth
 - Level 6.4 Unarmed Combat
 - Level 8.4 Spellcasting
 - Level 5.2 Conjurations
 + Level 8.0 Hexes
 - Level 6.9 Charms
 + Level 6.4 Summonings
 + Level 0.2 Necromancy
 - Level 10.0 Ice Magic
 - Level 5.0 Evocations


You cannot memorise any spells.
You know the following spells:

 Your Spells              Type           Power        Failure   Level  Hunger
a - Spectral Weapon       Hex/Chrm       #####...     2%          3    None
b - Throw Frost           Conj/Ice       ######       1%          2    None
c - Regeneration          Chrm/Necr      ###.......   12%         3    None
d - Throw Icicle          Conj/Ice       ######..     8%          4    ###....
e - Summon Ice Beast      Ice/Summ       ######..     6%          4    ###....
f - Confuse               Hex            #####...     1%          3    None
g - Tukima's Dance        Hex            #####...     1%          3    None
h - Infusion              Chrm           ####         1%          1    None
i - Song of Slaying       Chrm           #####...     1%          2    None
j - Summon Mana Viper     Hex/Summ       #####...     24%         5    #####..


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (12/15)            Temple (1/1) D:6            Lair (6/6) D:8
 Shoals (1/4) Lair:4        Snake (0/4) Lair:4        Slime (0/5) Lair:6
    Orc (2/2) D:12            Elf (0/3) Orc:2       

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Wu Jian
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh
Jiyva

Shops:
D:4 [   D:7 =   Orc:1 :   Orc:2 *(*[=

Annotations:
D:4 2 transporters, Menkaure
Lair:6 1 runed door


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You have hoof-like feet.
You frequently emit foul miasma when damaged in melee.
You regenerate a little health from kills.
You are immune to rotting.
When seriously injured, your bleeding wounds create very thick armour. (AC +0)


Message History

You finish putting on the +2 pair of gloves "Deil" {MR++}.
You drop a +0 pair of boots.
Welcome back, TheMadToker the Demonspawn Ice Elementalist.
The Council says: Follow the Path!
Press ? for a list of commands and other information.
Welcome back, TheMadToker the Demonspawn Ice Elementalist.
The Council says: Follow the Path!
Press ? for a list of commands and other information.
Okay, then.
Char dumped successfully.
Wear which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
You start removing your armour.
You continue taking off your +2 ring mail of fire resistance. x4
You finish taking off your +2 ring mail of fire resistance.
You feel less resistant to fire.
You start putting on your armour.
You continue putting on your +5 ring mail of magic resistance. x5
You are feeling very hungry.
You finish putting on your +5 ring mail of magic resistance.
You feel resistant to hostile enchantments.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  4 orc warlords (Orc:2)
  An ettin (Orc:1)
  An ice dragon (Lair:6)
  Fannar (Lair:3)
  5 hydras
  A merfolk avatar (Lair:6)
  2 centaur warriors
  3 two-headed ogres
  An orc high priest (Orc:2)
  A sea snake (Shoals:1)
  A fire crab (Lair:5)
  2 unseen horrors (D:11)
  7 orc knights
  Pikel (D:7)
  6 orc sorcerers (Orc:2)
  A deep elf mage (D:12)
  2 cyclopes
  14 elephants
  A black mamba (Lair:4)
  7 komodo dragons
  5 spiny frogs
  4 rime drakes
  15 polar bears
  A wind drake (Lair:6)
  8 trolls
  A merfolk (Lair:4)
  3 hornets (Lair:5)
  11 blink frogs
  2 dream sheep (Lair:6)
  9 hippogriffs
  5 wyverns
  A basilisk (D:12)
  31 yaks
  A hungry ghost (D:11)
  8 wargs
  3 nagas (Lair:4)
  Duvessa (D:7)
  7 water moccasins
  13 porcupines
  2 sky beasts
  2 slaves (D:7)
  2 black bears
  A necrophage (D:5)
  43 orc warriors
  4 ice beasts
  A phantom (D:8)
  12 ogres
  8 wolves (IceCv)
  9 centaurs
  13 crocodiles
  A big kobold (D:8)
  A gnoll sergeant (D:5)
  11 bullfrogs
  Dowan (D:7)
  5 scorpions
  A wyvern skeleton (D:6)
  9 killer bees
  A howler monkey (D:4)
  5 crimson imps
  2 bullfrog zombies
  2 quasits (D:10)
  2 centaur zombies (D:11)
  10 hounds
  2 bullfrog skeletons
  4 jellies
  13 orc priests
  24 orc wizards
  2 centaur skeletons
  4 iguanas
  4 worker ants
  A hound zombie (D:6)
  A worker ant zombie (D:11)
  13 gnolls
  16 adders
  3 shadow imps
  3 white imps (Lair:6)
  An adder skeleton (D:5)
  A worm (D:3)
  A dart slug (D:3)
  4 leopard geckos
  72 orcs
  4 giant cockroaches
  20 goblins
  4 hobgoblins
  25 jackals
  A quokka (D:4)
  A ball python (D:8)
  5 bats
  6 frilled lizards
  6 kobolds
  A leopard gecko skeleton (D:4)
  A leopard gecko zombie (D:6)
  8 rats
  3 fungi
  A plant (Lair:6)
594 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  3 hydras
  A two-headed ogre (D:12)
  A skeletal warrior (D:12)
  An ugly thing (D:12)
  An orc knight (Orc:2)
  2 orc sorcerers (Orc:2)
  A manticore (Lair:6)
  A black mamba (Lair:6)
  2 elephants (Lair:6)
  A merfolk siren (Lair:4)
  5 spiny frogs (Lair:6)
  A rime drake (Lair:6)
  A komodo dragon (Lair:6)
  A troll (D:12)
  A wind drake (Lair:6)
  9 dream sheep (Lair:6)
  4 blink frogs (Lair:6)
  3 hippogriffs
  A water elemental (Shoals:1)
  A wyvern (Lair:6)
  2 yaks (Lair:6)
  2 basilisks
  2 nagas (Lair:4)
  2 wargs
  4 water moccasins
  2 porcupines
  A black bear (D:6)
  A sky beast (D:5)
  6 orc warriors
  4 ogres
  3 centaurs (D:12)
  4 crocodiles (Lair:6)
  6 killer bees
  2 crimson imps (D:6)
  3 orc priests
  2 orc wizards
  An adder zombie (D:6)
  15 orcs
103 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  An orc warrior (Orc:2)
  3 bushes (D:8)
  46 fungi
  34 plants
  27 spectral weapons
111 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 808 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | TheMadToker the Demonspawn Ice Elementalist began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 13/13 MP: 3/3
   131 | D:1      | Reached skill level 3 in Ice Magic
   213 | D:1      | Gained mutation: When seriously injured, your bleeding wounds create armour. (AC +0) [demonic ancestry]
   213 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 20/20 MP: 0/5
   253 | D:1      | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting
   726 | D:1      | Learned a level 2 spell: Throw Frost
  1050 | D:1      | Gained mutation: You have large cloven feet. [demonic ancestry]
  1050 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 26/26 MP: 4/6
  1352 | D:2      | Learned a level 3 spell: Ozocubu's Armour
  1747 | D:2      | Reached skill level 1 in Charms
  1866 | D:2      | Gained mutation: When seriously injured, your bleeding wounds create thick armour. (AC +0) [demonic ancestry]
  1866 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 31/33 MP: 2/7
  2620 | D:2      | Reached skill level 4 in Ice Magic
  2620 | D:2      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 24/39 MP: 1/8
  3945 | D:4      | Found Horupt's Armour Boutique.
  3996 | D:4      | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha.
  3998 | D:4      | Noticed Menkaure
  4003 | D:4      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  4024 | D:4      | Found a transporter.
  4036 | D:4      | Found a transporter.
  4046 | D:4      | Gained mutation: You have hoof-like feet. [demonic ancestry]
  4046 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 44/47 MP: 4/9
  4945 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  5127 | D:4      | Bought a +2 robe of fire resistance for 247 gold pieces
  5221 | D:5      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 31/52 MP: 6/11
  5611 | D:5      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
  5623 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Ice Magic
  5659 | D:5      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
  5667 | D:5      | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal.
  6920 | D:5      | Gained mutation: You are immune to rotting. [demonic ancestry]
  6920 | D:5      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 51/57 MP: 13/15
  6993 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting
  7034 | D:6      | Reached skill level 1 in Unarmed Combat
  7467 | D:6      | Reached skill level 6 in Ice Magic
  7475 | D:6      | Learned a level 4 spell: Throw Icicle
  7480 | D:6      | Learned a level 4 spell: Summon Ice Beast
  7644 | D:6      | Found a blossoming altar of Fedhas.
  7650 | D:6      | Reached skill level 1 in Summonings
  7652 | D:6      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  7669 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  7747 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of the Wu Jian Council
  7927 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations
  8649 | D:6      | Gained mutation: You may emit foul miasma when damaged in melee. [demonic ancestry]
  8649 | D:6      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 58/62 MP: 16/16
  9577 | D:7      | Reached * piety under Wu Jian
  9582 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Unarmed Combat
 10005 | D:7      | Noticed Pikel
 10015 | D:7      | Killed Pikel
 10805 | D:7      | Noticed Duvessa
 10809 | D:7      | Noticed Dowan
 10814 | D:7      | Killed Dowan
 10819 | D:7      | Killed Duvessa
 10959 | D:7      | Found Zaibeiraf's Jewellery Boutique.
 11688 | D:8      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 60/72 MP: 14/17
 11759 | D:8      | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 11763 | D:8      | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 12010 | D:7      | Killed a two-headed ogre
 12010 | D:7      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
 12129 | D:7      | Killed a two-headed ogre
 12306 | D:8      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 12610 | D:8      | Reached ** piety under Wu Jian
 13236 | D:8      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
 13243 | D:8      | Reached skill level 7 in Ice Magic
 13332 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
 14297 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
 14957 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 8 in Ice Magic
 15871 | Lair:1   | Gained mutation: You regenerate a little health from kills. [demonic ancestry]
 15871 | Lair:1   | Reached XP level 11. HP: 40/83 MP: 8/18
 16136 | D:8      | Learned a level 3 spell: Confuse
 16692 | D:9      | Noticed a two-headed ogre
 16704 | D:9      | Killed a two-headed ogre
 17405 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
 17439 | D:9      | Learned a level 3 spell: Tukima's Dance
 17863 | D:10     | Reached *** piety under Wu Jian
 17863 | D:10     | Reached skill level 1 in Polearms
 17930 | D:10     | Reached skill level 5 in Hexes
 19047 | D:11     | Killed an unseen horror
 19086 | D:11     | Killed an unseen horror
 19566 | D:11     | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
 19751 | D:11     | Reached **** piety under Wu Jian
 19760 | D:11     | Learned a level 1 spell: Infusion
 19763 | D:11     | Learned a level 2 spell: Song of Slaying
 20539 | D:12     | Noticed an orc knight
 20547 | D:12     | Noticed a centaur warrior
 21130 | Lair:2   | Gained mutation: When seriously injured, your bleeding wounds create very thick armour. (AC +0) [demonic ancestry]
 21130 | Lair:2   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 71/91 MP: 4/22
 22375 | Lair:3   | Got a pair of shimmering gloves
 22386 | Lair:3   | Identified the +2 pair of gloves "Hulumid" {Dex+4} (You found it on level 3 of the Lair of Beasts)
 22414 | Lair:3   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 22430 | Lair:3   | Killed a five-headed hydra
 22535 | Lair:3   | Noticed Fannar
 22558 | Lair:3   | Killed Fannar
 22558 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations
 22818 | D:8      | Learned a level 3 spell: Spectral Weapon
 23398 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 5 in Polearms
 24173 | Lair:4   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 24195 | Lair:4   | Killed a ten-headed hydra
 24577 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Snake Pit.
 24821 | Lair:4   | Noticed a six-headed hydra
 24827 | Lair:4   | Killed a six-headed hydra
 25052 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Shoals.
 25788 | Lair:5   | Learned a level 3 spell: Regeneration
 25860 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 5 in Charms
 26277 | Lair:5   | Noticed a four-headed hydra
 26290 | Lair:5   | Killed a five-headed hydra
 26290 | Lair:5   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 96/96 MP: 8/23
 26668 | Lair:6   | Entered Level 6 of the Lair of Beasts
 27331 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 9 in Ice Magic
 28553 | Lair:6   | Reached ***** piety under Wu Jian
 31094 | Shoals:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Shoals
 31677 | D:4      | Bought the +4 ring mail of the Harvest {rPois rCorr} for 571 gold pieces
 32228 | Lair:6   | Reached skill level 10 in Ice Magic
 32576 | Lair:6   | Gained mutation: You frequently emit foul miasma when damaged in melee. [demonic ancestry]
 32576 | Lair:6   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 102/104 MP: 25/25
 32998 | Lair:6   | Found a runed door.
 32999 | Lair:6   | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva.
 33013 | Lair:6   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 33500 | D:12     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 33580 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 33580 | Orc:1    | Found Fip Wez's Book Shoppe.
 33908 | Orc:1    | Found a frozen archway.
 33985 | IceCv    | Entered an ice cave
 34661 | IceCv    | Noticed a frost giant
 35577 | Orc:2    | Entered Level 2 of the Orcish Mines
 35717 | Orc:2    | Found Timus's General Store.
 35728 | Orc:2    | Bought a scroll of amnesia for 49 gold pieces
 35869 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 1 in Armour
 35996 | Orc:2    | Paralysed by an orc sorcerer for 7 turns
 36108 | Orc:2    | Reached XP level 15. HP: 112/112 MP: 27/27
 36165 | Orc:2    | Found Jihoatai's Antique Weapon Shoppe.
 36204 | Orc:2    | Found Bolamani's Antique Armour Shoppe.
 36257 | Orc:2    | Noticed an orc warlord
 36282 | Orc:2    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 36311 | Orc:2    | Killed an orc warlord
 36314 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
 36475 | Orc:2    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 36483 | Orc:2    | Found Neggaac's Jewellery Shoppe.
 36631 | Orc:2    | Found Plog's General Store.
 36714 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 5 in Summonings
 36815 | Orc:2    | Noticed an orc warlord
 36887 | Orc:2    | Noticed an orc warlord
 36901 | Orc:2    | Killed an orc warlord
 36908 | Orc:2    | Noticed an orc warlord
 36922 | Orc:2    | Killed an orc warlord
 37717 | Orc:2    | Killed an orc warlord
 37856 | Orc:2    | Bought a scroll of identify for 26 gold pieces
 37856 | Orc:2    | Bought a scroll of acquirement for 676 gold pieces
 37979 | Orc:2    | Learned a level 5 spell: Summon Mana Viper
 38202 | Orc:2    | Identified Yhiatt's Almanac of Clay and Beguiling
 38576 | Orc:2    | Bought a shiny ring mail for 182 gold pieces
 38576 | Orc:2    | Bought a pair of runed boots for 195 gold pieces
 38576 | Orc:2    | Bought a pair of spiked gloves for 247 gold pieces
 38606 | Orc:2    | Identified the +2 pair of gloves "Deil" {MR++} (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines)

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 |
---------------+----------------------------------------------+-----
Ice Magic      |  3        4        5  6     8       10       | 10.0
Fighting       |     1     2  3           4  6  7        8    |  8.8
Charms         |        1  2                       5  6       |  6.9
Conjurations   |              2     4  5                      |  5.2
Spellcasting   |                 3  4  5        6  7     8    |  8.4
Unarmed Combat |                       3  6                   |  6.4
Summonings     |                       2  3              4  6 |  6.4
Dodging        |                          3  6        7  8    |  8.0
Hexes          |                                5  7     8    |  8.0
Polearms       |                                4  7  8  9    |  9.9
Evocations     |                                3  5          |  5.0
Armour         |                                         3  6 |  6.3
Stealth        |                                              |  1.7
Necromancy     |                                              |  0.2

Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total
-------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Hand axe          |    11 |    12 |       |       |       ||    23
       Unarmed           |     2 |       |       |       |       ||     2
       Dagger            |    11 |     6 |       |       |       ||    17
       Kick              |     4 |     5 |    51 |    71 |       ||   131
       War axe           |       |     4 |       |       |       ||     4
       Halberd           |       |    14 |   263 |   696 |   722 ||  1695
       Flail             |       |       |    23 |       |       ||    23
       Fustibalus        |       |       |       |     9 |     5 ||    14
 Fire: Blowgun           |       |     6 |       |       |       ||     6
       Fustibalus        |       |       |       |    52 |    68 ||   120
       Hunting sling     |       |       |       |       |    24 ||    24
Throw: Tomahawk          |     4 |     5 |       |       |       ||     9
       Stone             |       |       |       |     1 |       ||     1
 Cast: Freeze            |    61 |    94 |    45 |     4 |       ||   204
       Throw Frost       |     1 |     7 |    12 |    65 |    10 ||    95
       Ozocubu's Armour  |       |     7 |    21 |     1 |       ||    29
       Summon Ice Beast  |       |       |    16 |    37 |   151 ||   204
       Throw Icicle      |       |       |     8 |    43 |    23 ||    74
       Confuse           |       |       |       |    13 |    29 ||    42
       Tukima's Dance    |       |       |       |     6 |     7 ||    13
       Song of Slaying   |       |       |       |     5 |     4 ||     9
       Infusion          |       |       |       |    10 |    42 ||    52
       Spectral Weapon   |       |       |       |    19 |    70 ||    89
       Regeneration      |       |       |       |       |    17 ||    17
Invok: Lunge             |       |       |     1 |    14 |     9 ||    24
       Whirlwind         |       |       |     4 |   174 |   249 ||   427
       Wall Jump         |       |       |       |    21 |    18 ||    39
       Serpent's Lash    |       |       |       |     5 |    16 ||    21
       Heavenly Storm    |       |       |       |       |     3 ||     3
Evoke: Wand              |       |    14 |     7 |    17 |    24 ||    62
       Box of beasts     |       |       |       |     1 |     4 ||     5
       Lamp of fire      |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
       Crystal ball of e |       |       |       |       |     1 ||     1
  Use: Scroll            |     7 |     3 |     7 |    30 |    17 ||    64
       Potion            |       |     1 |       |     5 |    25 ||    31
 Stab: Sleeping          |     1 |     1 |     7 |       |       ||     9
       Distracted        |       |       |     1 |     1 |     7 ||     9
       Confused          |       |       |       |     1 |     5 ||     6
  Eat: Chunk             |     4 |    12 |    15 |    36 |    39 ||   106
       Ration            |       |       |     4 |     7 |     7 ||    18
Armor: Robe              |    16 |    33 |   171 |       |       ||   220
       Leather armour    |       |       |    17 |    16 |       ||    33
       Ring mail         |       |       |       |   368 |   279 ||   647
       Skin              |       |       |       |       |    55 ||    55
Dodge: Dodged            |    51 |    82 |   282 |   629 |   512 ||  1556


I just noticed the boots cause me to Fly automatically, is there any reason not to fly all the time? Should I just leave them enabled?

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Post Wednesday, 20th June 2018, 09:00

Re: Looking for advice on my current run (DsIE)

Hmmm... runed door on D12... to open or not to open...

Gonna need to contemplate this for a minute and establish a game plan of some sort.

EDIT: Actually, maybe I'll finish the rest of the dungeon then come back to it? But I'm so curious as to what's behind it... I think thats my best bet, hopefully I'll pick up some escape items on the next couple floors.
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Post Wednesday, 20th June 2018, 09:03

Re: Looking for advice on my current run (DsIE)

themadtoker wrote:I just noticed the boots cause me to Fly automatically, is there any reason not to fly all the time? Should I just leave them enabled?

Just be careful around monsters that can cast airstrike (wind drakes, spriggan air mages, titans, blizzard demons + some uniques), as airstrike does more damage to flying targets.
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Post Wednesday, 20th June 2018, 09:45

Re: Looking for advice on my current run (DsIE)

Aaaaaaaand

DEAD

Well thanks for all the tips guys. Time to do it all over again :roll: Definitely my fault, hit a welcoming party on D:13, common sense told me run but I was stupid.
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Post Wednesday, 20th June 2018, 16:08

Re: Looking for advice on my current run (DsIE)

Basically don't open runed doors unless opening the door is more fun than winning; the loot is not worth the risk. Really, my mantra for winning at Crawl is "never do something risky, because the game is long and eventually the odds will get you." I am bad at following this rule and rarely win though.

But I have mostly stopped opening runed doors until I'm insanely overleveled.
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Post Wednesday, 20th June 2018, 23:55

Re: Looking for advice on my current run (DsIE)

njvack wrote:Basically don't open runed doors unless opening the door is more fun than winning; the loot is not worth the risk. Really, my mantra for winning at Crawl is "never do something risky, because the game is long and eventually the odds will get you." I am bad at following this rule and rarely win though.

But I have mostly stopped opening runed doors until I'm insanely overleveled.


Oh, that's not what killed me. The runed door turned out to be rather anti-climatic. Just a bunch of orcs that I plowed through.

Have you encountered, the er... well, encounter :) , where a ring of humans surrounds you? buncha humans, like 3 uniques, I got beat down, I put up a helluva fight, though. :twisted: I forget their names, I know one's a centaur with a stupid strong fire/poison arrow, he's the one that got me.
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Post Thursday, 21st June 2018, 03:56

Re: Looking for advice on my current run (DsIE)

I don't know that vault (it's probably listed in your character dump) but I do know Nessos. He's a butthole. He has pretty low MR, though, so a hex wand (paralysis, enslavement, polymorph) will usually work great, especially if you have a bit of Evocations.

Polymorph is nice in this case because it's permanent and changing him into something that can't shoot renders him basically harmless.
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Post Thursday, 21st June 2018, 04:51

Re: Looking for advice on my current run (DsIE)

I don't use wands enough, but Nessos and Sonja are the reason that Beogh created wand of paralysis/polymorph.

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Post Thursday, 21st June 2018, 06:59

Re: Looking for advice on my current run (DsIE)

themadtoker wrote:Have you encountered, the er... well, encounter :) , where a ring of humans surrounds you? buncha humans, like 3 uniques, I got beat down, I put up a helluva fight, though.

That's probably the vault that imitates the V:5 welcome party. Whenever you see that vault, imo you should go back upstairs and use the one staircase down that does not lead in the middle of the vault.
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Post Thursday, 21st June 2018, 16:16

Re: Looking for advice on my current run (DsIE)

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themadtoker wrote:Have you encountered, the er... well, encounter :) , where a ring of humans surrounds you? buncha humans, like 3 uniques, I got beat down, I put up a helluva fight, though.

That's probably the vault that imitates the V:5 welcome party. Whenever you see that vault, imo you should go back upstairs and use the one staircase down that does not lead in the middle of the vault.


I knew off the bat I should of went back up, but I was cocky. If not for that bow though, I would of mopped the floor with the rest of them. I also hadn't noticed my piety dropped a pip, so I couldn't use heavenly storm which really screwed me.

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